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The plastic starters are here…thoughts (6 posts)

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  • Avatar Image trebormills652p said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Im glad the starters are plastic as its easier to work with, the move to warmachine plastic was a great event for me (mold lines aside). Sadly PP are not as good as GW at using plastic to its potential.

    In particular the Trolls now are boring, ugly and generic vs the original metals. Madrak is looking improved. However rather than doing an impaler generic body with add on armour for the axer and maybe spare parts for giggles(bag with whelp, big bird etc) we have a generic axer body which changes the look of the impalers totally. The rest of the hordes range has not suffered as much but some of the great looking models are sadly no longer going to available. Skorne looks best the cyclops legs are a bit odd though…rickets? The new Feral is much better but I can see it is a bit cartoony, the legion stuff looks identical to me

    over all a good move in the long run but pp needs to keep metals available imo

  • Avatar Image baummonster47p said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    Probably dump question .. but are they real plastic now or is it the same resin PP uses for Warmachine? Had little to complain about those, except some warped staffs, halberds and the like. Nothing you couldn’t fix yourself with a wee bit effort tho

    But damn I suppose it’s really about time to visit my local store again…

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  • Avatar Image trebormills652p said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    its the same resin plastic I assume
    Hot water trick is easy fix for warped stuff, mold lines are carvable with a blade but a pain.

    I prefer plastic to metal, Im sad that the resculpts are a mixed bag- also it seems (pp forum opnion) that lights for the trolls are based off the bouncer rather than the axer

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  • Avatar Image baummonster47p said 3 months, 1 week ago:

    yeah I always found it confusing that PP labels their miniatures as plastic when they clearly aren’t, since no plastic glue will work on them. Love the resin material tho, so much fun to work with, even if you have to correct some stuff from time to time

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  • Avatar Image dais493p said 3 months ago:

    Just because it isn’t the normal styrene we are used to dose not mean it’s not plastic, but yea the mold lines are a pain and it takes a different skill set for sure.
    I’m just a little disappointed the circle box still has two arguses. They aren’t bad but I have never seen anyone use doubles outside of the battlebox. At least the feral warpwolf looks miles better than the original model. I think skorne players have the most to be excited about with those difficult metal titan gladiator and cyclops savage models replaced with better designed plastics. The troll changes are a matter of taste, though I can see the new look differentiating light beasts from heavy infantry better at least.

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  • Avatar Image yarr85p said 3 months ago:

    On the Styrene comment, absolutely! It’s actually one of my bugbears seeing the stuff labelled as “plastic glue”. When I were a lad (oh no! here I go…) anyone that had ever had an airfix kit as a kid knew it was polystyrene cement. It only works on styrene and it’s not actually even a glue so to call it “Plastic glue”, and I’m looking directly at you GW, is both erroneous and perhaps a little misleading rather than it being Privateer Press’s fault.

    The magic substance is called butanone and it’s an organic solvent which just happens to be particularly good at dissolving polystyrene and that’s how it works. A thin application dissolves a little of the polystyrene on each surface, or melts it if you like, and when it dries you have a weld. There is no glue holding it together, the two plastic parts have fused. You could probably get a similar effect with a lighter or a soldering iron but that would be messy, dangerous and it wouldn’t have that wonderful smell.

    Anyway, rant/lecture over and to be fair if I bought a plastic miniature I’d expect it to be polystyrene and sit scratching my head for ages wondering why it wasn’t working before reaching for the superglue. Also to be fair to GW they’re not the only ones using the “Plastic Glue” shortcut – it’s not glue and most plastic you encounter day to day is either polypropylene, polyethylene or PVC so you can’t really say it’s for “plastic” either.

    Dang I said rant over didn’t I? Rant is really over now ;-)