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March 30, 2012 by elromanozo
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Romain reviews Vallejo Paint on camera… just for you!
Every good painter knows this is the brand of choice to go for. Compared to citadel you get 17 ml bottles instead of 12ml, a bigger range at a better price so you can’t argue with simple mathematics. I personally love their washes and inks range although they don’t have an equivalent to devlan mud wash.
I have to totally agree with this! I bought the whole Game Colo(u)r (sorry but I cannot stand Amercanised English) and saved myself a huge amount of money compared to Citadel. I have found since starting my Vamp Counts army if found the coverage is better compared to Citadel. The washes and inks are amazing (but Devlan mud or whatever it’s called now rules) and the model air metallics are the most superior metallics out there! Grey Primer smells though! I have now totally moved over to Vallejo!
My new house is 30yards from a stockist of the Game range and he is hoping to get the others in too! Tee hee No prizes for guessing which range of acrylics I will be switching to.
Thanks Romain. Sometimes is a good idea to shade with the complimentary colour. If it was good enough for Delacroix then I don’t why I shouldn’t! lol
This range does sell itself on many levels as far as I am concerned. Firstly price per quantity. Then there is the huge range of available shades and tones. I really like the lack of mess that you always get with the GW containers and because there is no sealing issue the paints do not expire to a solid mess if left long periods between use. All in all there is little not to like here. They really are good paints.
That model air Aluminum is the best damn silver I have ever used. I don’t care for the model color range very much because of the latex base, but those model air metals are dreamy, even with a normal brush.
I hope you review reaper master series paints sometime soon. I know they are as rare in Europe as Coat’d'Arms paints are here in America, but I find them very unique in their flow and blending properties.
Most of the paints I use are Vallejo paints and I’m happy with them. Yes sometimes if I haven’t used the paint for some time the small amount in the drop end will dry and clog the flow. All I do is prick it with a pin and it’s good to go.
The coverage of many is second to none and I like that they have such a large range. The only thing I was somewhat let down on was the washes I got. It would leave a milky white film over some areas. Mainly where the wash would pool. I don’t know if I got a bad batch but that is the only negitive feedback I can say of Vallejo paints. All the rest are the best paints I have ever used for modeling.
It can be two things…
Either a bad batch (in which case there’s nothing to do), or simply lack of proper shaking or mixing of the paint.
I hope it’s the latter !
I’ll give it a try Romain as I know that Vallejo is the best of the best. It’s close to 10 years when I started with them and I still have many of them, all still good.
You know, I prefer the texture of P3… Vallejo is very good indeed, but it’s not the be all and end all of paints. There are great colors in most brands !
Nice review! For me Vallejo wins hands down for my choice of paint because it’s cheaper for more (double bargain!) and in a better pot than the “other” paint without compromising quality, (in fact I’d say the model colour range is better quality than a certain well known brand) but on top of that it’s easier to get. I’m in Glasgow and in the city centre there is one GW stockist (GW funnily enough) vs three (that I know of, there could be more) stockists of Vallejo. Cheaper, better, more paint, dropper bottles, easier to get hold of, excellent coverage from the model in particular, broader range there is just no reason for me to buy anything else.
Funny you mention Hull Red, I got that recently and I’ve been using it so much! I use it as a dark base for leather straps then build the colour up but it’s so versatile for all the reasons you mention. Love it! While not the cheapest for this the model range also has additives like matt medium, glaze medium, drying retarder, etc. so it’s a good way to test before buying a big bottle of W&N or Liquitex. Also good to see the Model Air metal. Looks virtually grain free!
Thanks Romain for the video ! Really usefull.
I will buy some color for sure but does it exist some “megapaint kit” from Vallejo?
You should be able to find large kits from other retailers. I know that The War Store offers one.
There are paint kits for all 3 kind of paints (glassic/game/air) at prince august with 71+ colors and brushes. I suppose it’s available under the name vallejo too. There are also many smaller themed paint kits, with 12 or 6 pots.
@ Romain : have you ever found any utility to the fluo paints ? Maybe for glowing effect ? I’m a bit sceptical about those…
You could use them for hi-viz recognition bands/markings
As a matter of fact, I really like the fluo paints !
The fluo magenta and yellow are my favored colors (mixed or separate) for magical and fire effects, as well as source lighting of that sort of color. I also use the magenta fluo, mixed with red, to really bring out the highlights of brighht red cloth.
I almost always use fluo colors for the eyes of big monsters.
The green fluo is ideal for enhancing the necrotite glow of cryx machinery, as well as the necron green energy…
I haven’t used the blue a lot, but it sounds perfect as well for energy glow and power weapons.
The fluo colors are interestingly thick, yet very transparent, and mix very well. They should be applied over clear colors for fll effect, otherwise you only get a very thin glaze that’s hard to build up…
But they’re great colors ! Try them out, you won’t be disappointed.
It’d be foolish to buy the hundreds and hundreds of references in one go… To the best of my knowledge, there are a lot of themed paint sets for all ranges, and one “Mega paint set” for all the Game Color references (about 70). Peruse through the Vallejo website, it’s in english as well as spanish !
I’m thinking of getting the weathering set as it covers almost everything from powders for ash to rust. Romain, have you ever used powders? I’d love to see a video one day of it.
We’ll have to do reviews of those as well (and varnishes, mediums, etc), but of course actual paints would take precedence…
You can get them. You could order them from the Vallejo website if you have no stores by you.
Am I the only one who is a bit suspicious about the timing of this review?
Given that Romain has been reviewing different paints and painting products on a regular basis I would allay any worries about conspiracy theories. Am sure another well known brand will get their day in the spotlight in due course.
Perhaps GW got wind of our review release schedule and decided to relaunch their own paint range to steal our thunder!
im also pretty sure vallejo have a new range out as well as i got a mail about it from one of the gaming mail order stores but not sure which one
The most recent ranges are the expanded Panzer Aces range in individual pots, the Washes, and the Extra Opaque paints. The Plastic Mastic is new-ish as well. They always perfect their mixes, though…
here got my pc working today heres the link http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/vallejo-paints/premium-colour/cat_1139.html its called premium colour range and im pretty sure tanks arnt this colour well mybe some 40k chapters
p.s. it says its for both brush and airbrush straigth from the can (well plastic container)
Yes, those are basic colors in large bottles… I thought these were more for decorative arts and crafts or traditional airbrush painting rather than miniatures, and the range is a bit tacky, but I guess you can use them nonetheless. Vallejo does a lotof things aside from miniature paints and model accessories, you know…
Thank you, guys, for the kind words !
As for those who are wondering about that “other” range…
Paint reviews have been going on a while, in articles and then in video (as videos get more attention and allow for a more conversational and casual review)… We scheduled them and filmed them independently from any GW anouncement.
The announcement for the new GW paints was made some time after I last left the Beasts of War studio. We didn’t have any of the new Citadel paints, all we had on this one was rumors, same as everyone else !
We do not wage war on GW, nor do we alter our general schedule to their “needs”… At least not as such, even if we do cover GW big releases as the events they are, in the same way we cover other brands.
Of course, Citadel will get their review, probably the next time I’m around filming. I haven’t tried the new ones, personnally, but I am genuinely eager to see what they’re like !
In the meantime, there are a plethora of very good products to get your brushes on. Have fun painting !
There are some world-famous (…for painting toy soldiers ahem) painters that more or less only use GW and will swear by them, in fairness (though they can afford them).
But this video has sold me. I am investing in an air-brush because I can’t be asked to sit around like some chump spending 15 minutes basecoating a model when I could spend 20 seconds with an airbrush. These Vallejo air-brush paints are defo on my future shopping list.
I’ll be looking into some bundle deals for Vallejo paints as well. But Vallejo colour or model?
@poosh I’d say it depends on how you want to paint. If you want to follow a guide you’re best using Game seeing as most will reference GW colours. I find Model colour to be more heavily pigmented and covering. It’s like a 220 colour spectrum of foundation paints almost so they are a good choice for colours you might use to base coat; although they can be used for anything, I use Ivory quite a lot for an almost white highlight. If you’re painting style is a more free one where you pick a colour you like to base then mix for highlight/shades (Romain’s colour theory videos are a great help in understanding this method) then look at both and just pick what you like the look of! =)
Personally though I’ve used the vallejo paints, I have found the seperation problem. I have a grey model colour which is particularly bad. Even after *really* shaking it, it goes onto the pallette ok, then starts seperating on the pallette within seconds. Not good at all, but maybe a bad batch.
My local game store stocks Cote d’arms, which I’ve taken to lately.
Some old pots do tend to separate, but recent batches don’t have that problem… However, since the shelf life of Vallejo pots is quasi infinite, those ones still are on the shelves of some stores ! Coat d’Arms have liquid pigments, so they rarely separate… I do like them, even though they’re a bit too flowy for my taste.
actually shaking is not the best way to mixing these, Squize the bottom to break up any build up and than “twist” them. giving them a short shake once in a while during like when you would with a stick if you were to try to make fire with sticks. the rotating motion does a way better trick then shaking them alone.
Thanks for the review, i had a bad experience painting necrons, i tried the Game Color Paint – Mithril Silver – 72052 and it had the “glitter” effect. I am still curious to try a few of their paints, but for now i prefer my reaper paints (plus im from texas so they are my home team!)
if you are not sattisfied with the metallic effect from the gamecolor range, they did upgrade it recently, finer metallic i think.
but me, i’m a fan of using the model air range metallics, they cover incredibly well and no glitter
Brilliant paint! one of our topsellers and my nr1 advised paint. just dont mix them with tamiya acrylics, they’ll jellify
actually vallejo model air paints are not diluted, they are simply not as viscous as the rest of the range (for obvious reasons).
the science and the range of paints has come a long way since airfix or revel enamels. I had a gaming shop and the Revel range was one of the biggest sellers, we also stocked vallejo and GW. No matter how hard I tried I found it a real hard to move stock. Yet when I spoke to so many gamers they would complain on the GW range. I have used most makes in the well over forty years and come back to both Vallejo and Revel enamels.
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