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December 16, 2011 by elromanozo
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Of course, I was really hoping to see this one too!
ahh Romain, i love how you did the plates on the Ironclad, and to answer your question, I too will ramble to myself as I paint my minis, especially my warmachine minis, I love to find a way to tell a story through them, and will find myself spending hours to make that story come to life.
Hey, now that you guys have this running go ahead and pull my first comment?
The blue paint seems to be quite a bit more watery than some of the other Vallejo paint that I have seen you used, noticed this when you mixed it. Very thin coats…
Why paint with such thin mixture if your going to have to apply multiple coats to get saturation? Minimizing visual brush strokes? With regard to the rambling thoughts: “Never his mind on where he was, what he was doing….”
Maybe try a zen approach, become one with the event at hand and empty your mind of distraction?
I find when I do let my mind wander my attention to detail drifts, and my productivity slips a bit. It’s true you get to a point where it does become rote, but I find when you focus past that you really get in the zone… When I do drift, I usually start developing narratives about the troops, creating back story and such.. I think this is why painters prefer themed armies, the long hours painting allow for some serious wool gathering, so if your army has a strong narrative theme, rather than simply being a perfectly statistically efficient / effective army, you can let your imagination go while you are working.
If you want to add some narrative for entertainment sake, you can always tell us how your D&D campaigns are going. Always good for a laugh.
Unsolicited advise (so take it for whatever its worth). Before you begin a technique or color, why not hold the model up, and point to the areas that you are going to cover, and the areas you are going to highlight, and explain why, and what technique you will do before you do it?
Yes, they were bad puns. Apology accepted
With regard to shading, I agree that a quick way to shade is to use black wash, but the more I study color and light, the more i realize that the absence of light on colored objects does not change the color, which is what you get with black, but rather makes it deeper. Its only in the total absence of light that you see actual blackness (or rather the total absence of light). This is why I really prefer ranges that take a single color through an entire spectrum of tone. Of course it means you have to buy more paints, but I prefer the results. This is an aesthetic consideration that goes beyond quick painting, but I do prefer it.
I know its faster to shade with washes after your base paint, as it allows you to paint a lot faster because you are not worried about covering deep shade, but I just have never been convinced of the effect. I always like to actually lay in the deep shade rather than wash it in. I usually rely on washes to correct mistakes, or to help blend areas where the contrast is too extreme. All just preference. (You said it was ok to ramble…)
Here is an interesting article on the history of the color Prussian Blue. http://www.fastcompany.com/1588812/the-long-strange-history-of-prussian-blue
It also talks about ultramarine blue, which is a color I (and many painters) have a lot of history with – funny that the perhaps the most famous Marine chapter is named after a particular shade of blue (once so rare it was considered, by weight, to be worth more gold!) I think back in Rogue Trader days they were named after the color, but later on GW took the idea of the word ‘Ultra’, and made them the epitome / model of what the Space Marines should be. Personally I think it would have been interesting if they were a chapter dedicated to intelligence work, as a nod to the great UK WW2 Ultra department. Too sophisticated a reference for the kiddies though.
Great work. Really appreciate it! Coming along nicely.
Multiple thin coats works better than one less thin one for this, as you still want the base shading and white parts to show through, then the slightly speckled bits at the edge of the white give you a guide for were to blend your shades/highlights, if you do it in one coat that’s a tiny bit too thick it can obscure the shading totally.
The Ultramarines have as far as I can remember always had the double meaning of “blue” and “best”(the second one being a popular but by no means ubiquitous opinion rather than fact it must be said), I’m not entirely sure it started out that way or whether one meaning was intended and the other mistaken identity after the fact, but for at least since the middle of second they’ve been said to have the most stable gene-seed with no mutations or missing organs.
Curiously the Intelligence gathering legion would most likely have been the Alpha legion, The ultramarines use an inverted Omega as a symbol, and the opposite of Omega is Alpha…
Point 1: I see the point of using thing coats in shading up, but it does appear to me that for his base / primary color coverage, he has has to apply several coats. I certainly see the point of what he is doing with his graded primer / undercoat, but I am not yet totally convinced of the effectiveness. To me it seems to serve as an excellent guide for how light strikes the model, and perhaps it simply does not come across well in the recording process, but it seems to me that you still have to do significant highlighting, which you would have to to with or without the graded primer effects. Not trying to be harsh, just trying to fully appreciate the advantage of the graded undercoat. Also, I see your point, but the blue seemed particularly thin compared to the metallic base coats. I am sure I will simply have to break down and try this method to fully appreciate it, but I want to wait until I see the full tutorial before I give it a whirl.
Point 2: I still rue the day I tossed my copy of Rogue Trader into the trash bin, and I can’t remember how much detail was in the fluff on Marine’s. (I do remember the Rainbow Warriors, lol, and the black and yellow stripes worn by the Marine MP forces). Seemed like most of the book was focused, as one would expect, on the Rogue Traders, basically licensed pirateers operating on the fringe of known space. So its hard for me to say if the association / history goes back to the origin of the game. As far as being the best, as you point out, its mostly the later fluff that supports that idea, (most pure geneseed, Guillman’s post Heresy saving of the Empire, etc…) other Marine specialty armies I think do have better statistical advantage / rules than the vanilla marines, so in that sense I do not feel they are the best, but the point is debatable (but not here ). Also, I don’t think ‘best’ is perhaps the right word – the definition of the word itself is most accurate: beyond the usual, extreme, excessive. And then there is the looming specter of ‘racial purity’ that raises its ugly head when you take the ‘geneseed purity’ to its most corrupted fruition.
As far as the symbol, I think its another one for the kiddies. U for Ultra rather than the true use of the symbol as the Omega. Of course here in the Western US, we used the symbol of the horseshoe, prongs up, as a good luck symbol, so it is fairly familiar, or at least it used to be. Might be why when I first saw the use of it, I didn’t really question it. I guess I think of Alpha legion more of SOE / OSS gone rogue. It is interesting that The Ultra’s and the Alpha’s have a long history of mutual detest. But we digress…
Dear @cazboab and @ubiquanon,
I don’t have a problem for focusing on the job at hand as I paint when my mind is wandering, but I suppose I’ve always had my feet on the ground even when my head is in the clouds…
I haven’t got the faintest idea about the Space Marines chapters, but as for the thin coats and the washing of shadows, they’re amply justified…
It’s a lot easier to blend colors, It allows you to correct the tone if you’re not satisfied with it, It prevents brush strokes, by criss-crossing the strokes of each coat when possible, It allows for better control of light (through pre-shading), It prevents paint building up and hiding details, It’s easier to absorb mistakes, The paint goes into the creases a lot better, for basecoating and shading, It’s easier to enrich tones by glazing when and where you want to, whether early on in the painting or later on during the highlights phase…
… And I’ve probably forgotten a reason or two.
Washing the shadows in (whatever color they are) is usually what most people find easier to do, but this is all a question of personal preference, as you say !
You keep painting the way you want to paint… It’s the only way that will be fun for you, you’ll get better results if you enjoy yourself, and this has always been the main purpose after all…
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