Hobby Weekender 08/03/19 – Slightly Forward to the 90s

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Sadly Keith Flint passed away during the last week so I felt the 90s was a progression theme to move forward with as well as a nice little ode to the main man:

He does not sing in this one but man Michael Flatley with his feet of flame has no stuff on Keith Flint.

Also his oft forgotten rock band that sadly never reached ifs full potential:

Welcome All to another Hobby Weekender! As per tradition started generations ago, and handed down from wise elders, the intro blurb is shamelessly cut and paste below once again and possibly for all time…:

To the uninitiated, this is a virtual hobby hangout here on the forum. It is something fun and silly with a little more ‘oomph’. It’s not just show and tell with your models. Its chatting, getting to know one another, community building. Think of it as a sort of club like hobby session. Everyone is welcome, of course, and there are a few rules to abide by. Let it go as OT as you like with chatting with folks. BoW/OTT is a special, unique community, and this little weekly thread is a tradition on these forums. Though not for everyone, if you are still reading and keen, then it is for you. If not, best click out.

We do a few things on this thread that usually lasts from Friday or Saturday til about Wednesday or Thursday. My say is final in this silly little corner of the internet. Fear not, for this is your safe place against the outside world of flame wars, trolling and all that other crap.

(1) Make a pledge for the weekend. It can be painting, assembly, priming, converting, background writing, terrain, you name it. Just gotta be relevant to hobbying or gaming.

(2) Chat with people. Be friendly. Do get to know one another, be kind, provide positive reinforcement and constructive criticism. Do not post up your real name, credit card, bank details or home address info.

(3) I will list out questions. Answer them. Longer answers = more points. Also, points are being assigned to something else as it confused some folk for a while.

(4) Awards will be given out at the end of the thread and you shall be awarded XP, added to your account profile by the wonderful @lancorz . Think of him as the ever vigilant Batman of the forums who keeps a careful eye on the status quo, but also acts in a way, like Alfred; with a calm disposition and the attentive nature of a concierge.

(5) Scottish Pub Law rules: no discussion of religion or politics**. Keep it clean. Behave. Be nice, be kind. Walk away if you get angry. Don’t be a dick.

Also there are bonuses for the following ‘Achievements’:
· Most Valuable Player (most engaged with topic)
· Fire Starter (topic starter, encourages the member circulation)
· Hobby Champ (most hobby over the weekend)
· Meme Lord (ryhmes, funnies & memes)
· Pun-Tertainment (best pun)
· Brush Licker (painting & terrain)
· Headliner DJ (most eclectic music)
· Armchair Commander (weekend battle reports)
· Community Usher (helpful & engaged)
· Storyteller (weekly discussion & story)

Note: All points are awarded in fictional currencies… sometimes

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And of course the Questions! I think they work better in a subsequent post. I said last week there would be a mix of 90s and technology theme in here.

1. What do you miss about 90s pop culture? Im trying to make this a tad different to the more 80s themed predecessor thread.

2. What was a bad thing about the 90s? Try not to let this one get too political.

3. Technology Question: What is your opinion on the following mantra with potential dangerous, albeit for the moment mainly theoretical technology: if we can do something, should we do it? Kind of an Isaac Asimov Question.

4. Technology Question: What piece of technology are you enjoying using or is due to be released soon that you look forward to? This can be anything from an early 90s printer to VR gaming, or anything going off in a tangent.

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I write this at 0225 in the morning to highly recommend going to see Captain Marvel. Damn entertaining movie, which will make a chronological rewatch of the MCU very interesting ?

Also I’ve had a load of Tempestus Scions through that ill be working on this afternoon when I get home from London. For now off to bed before my hospital consult later ?

have a good one chaps

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Something from the 90s I think that I miss… The X Files. Definitely was a series that kept the suspense up as far as pop culture went.

A bad thing about the 90s. I’d say the direction rap took for defining culture. With regard to our last thread I think Family Guy defined it in a nutshell

If we can do something, explore the thought as to how far afield the implications may be and then go in moderation

Technology that I am enjoying the use of most at the moment is the Internet. I wouldn’t be able to shoot the shit with all of you here. In general its allowed me to do all the hobbying I can with models I find that are produced far far away from me. I get ll the news that revolves around materials that I have come to use and more that I look forward to play with.

Now for a playlist of what MTV showed with promise before it turned to offal

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Happy weekend all!

@mage thanks for hosting once more. I’ll try and be a bit more communicative this week but flu still knocking me around a little – has run a bit of a number on me I must confess. Still, a few days of downtime now should help 🙂

90’s eh? Since you kicked off with Firestarter I’ll respond with the song that the sample came from (mainly as the Breeders were high rotation on my mid 90’s playlist…)

No good is one of my favourite video clips of all time – well selected 🙂

Kicking off with question responses to ensure I answer them this time… 😉

1. What do you miss about 90s pop culture? Im trying to make this a tad different to the more 80s themed predecessor thread.

I miss live music venues where actual bands could play in real life to an engaged audience. I miss gaming stores getting spammed with 2nd ed AD&D supplements. I also sort of miss how to find out about bands you had to have a friend or someone put you on to them or actively seek them out and go to the trouble of ordering a record (anybody remember those?) or CD (anybody remember those?)  from a bricks and mortar music shop (anybody remember those?)  and how things weren’t sort of just spoon-fed to you based on an algoithm and your past listening preferences. Sorry that might come off as sounding a little elitist but it was nice when you met someone and found out you had shared interests and could swap recommendations.

Oh and speaking of elitist – I miss the internet before everyone was on it. Way back when yahoo was a physical list of websites, webcrawler was the search engine of choice and everyonne was excited about thr release of Netscape Navigatior verison 1.02 beta, and you had to load your own packet drivers and TCP-IP protocols. Hrm, might be nostalgia goggles a little…

2. What was a bad thing about the 90s? Try not to let this one get too political.

Oh that’s easy. ‘Megamixes’ where parts of 3 early techno songs were beatmixed together and repackaged as a new song. Also hypercolour t-shirts. And Alien 3. And Predator 2. And has anyone mentioned the Spice girls yet?…

3. Technology Question: What is your opinion on the following mantra with potential dangerous, albeit for the moment mainly theoretical technology: if we can do something, should we do it? Kind of an Isaac Asimov Question.

Difficult one. I guess there is the caveat/ratinoale that if we don’t do it then somebody else will. If I ever had to make such a call I’d be really grateful for the combined wisdom of ethicists, professors, theoretical thinkers and philosiphers. ie, subject matter experts who have devoted a significant component of their time and intellect to working through the chain of events that may or may not unfold.

4. Technology Question: What piece of technology are you enjoying using or is due to be released soon that you look forward to? This can be anything from an early 90s printer to VR gaming, or anything going off in a tangent.

Has the screw-top egg been invented yet? No?… Oh well… Seriously, I’m lucky enough to presently have a 3D printer, which means as long as I keep feeding it filament it will print me gaming components. This week it’s been Viking longboats. Last week it was eastern european styled multi-storey half-timbered houses. Next week will be dwarven fortifications. The technology is getting better/faster/cheaper with time so I imagine these will be really prevalant (more so than now) amongst the hobby community in 3 years, and with the general populace within 5.

Pledge this week is work on my Middenheim army. That’s probably enough pledge to keep me busy 🙂

Edit – pledge Point 2: also need to clean a bunch of mins that have been soaking in stripper…

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Hobby pledge: this week none. I’ve got a bill over 1125€ to cover for my car repair so that’s that… motivation zero, money drained. Cars are fucking expensive.

1. What do you miss about 90s pop culture? Im trying to make this a tad different to the more 80s themed predecessor thread.

Couldn’t tell you. It was a… weird time for me. First own flat, 4 years in the military, first “adult break up”, failing at the university… mentally and emotionally I was all over the place.

2. What was a bad thing about the 90s? Try not to let this one get too political.

War on oil. A very big fuckup.

3. Technology Question: What is your opinion on the following mantra with potential dangerous, albeit for the moment mainly theoretical technology: if we can do something, should we do it? Kind of an Isaac Asimov Question.

What was that other saying? “Everybody asked if we could do it but no one asked should we do it” (something along those lines) Technology should always be theoretically researched and thought about. But when it goes piratical a high grade of care needs to be applied. But even if something in it of it self is not dangerous (like a hammer) it can still be misused. And this potential of misuse should always be in the head of people.

4. Technology Question: What piece of technology are you enjoying using or is due to be released soon that you look forward to? This can be anything from an early 90s printer to VR gaming, or anything going off in a tangent.

On a daily basis: dishwasher and washing machine. Everyone who lives in a household with 3+ people loves those things 😉 On a personal level: video games and everything that’s associated with it. (PC, console, controllers etc). Other than that nothing comes to mind but I know that some techi stuff has had me going “oh I so need/want this” but I can’t remember what that was.

Now of to waiting for the call from the repair shop that my bloody car is finished…

[rayzryrParticipant 22410xp 1]

Alright?

The 90’s eh? What a fun, sh**ty decade!

My pledge for the week will be to return to the Elf project.

Tonight I’ll update my DA project. I’ve got to finish the Consecrators squad, but it’ll have to wait a little. I’ve got plans to make my own transfers for them. I’ll varnish them and call it done for now.

I’ve varnished the Dark Angels, gone for a walk, now sit n chill, dinner soon. Then hobby time.

A little music to get started… questions answered next!

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Happy weekend all! Hope you have a good one.

Pledge
It is a Six Nations Rugby Weekend, so I’m not sure yet as I’ll be watching at least 2 matches and may even go out to watch them.  The shed is still a mess, so I really need to get stuck into it.  I also want to start learning to play Blood Bowl again and as I don’t currently have anyone to play with, I bought BB2 for the computer so I might give it a go over the weekend as well.

Questions
1. In terms of music, I miss hearing things that are new and innovative.  I’m not saying that all new music is derivative or bad but nothing I have listened to since the 90s has blown me away like early 90s Death Metal, DeathDoom and Black Metal when I first heard it. You also had bands like Skyclad and Bathory releasing albums that are still massive influences in metal today. I also miss when music could be innovative and a commerical success, the prime example would be The Prodigy’s Music For the Jilted Generation.

2. Grunge.  Not a subject to get me started on 🙂

3. No.  While the saying “guns don’t kill people, people do” is true, we have also got to remember that for all its good points, the human race hasn’t been particularly nice to each other and other animals on the planet in its short history.  We are also not as smart as we believe ourselves to be 🙂

4. I guess if I am going to be playing some BB2 on PC, my PC/internet enabled devices.  The PC is both good and bad, but it allows me to make contact with other hobbyists like here, it allows me to talk in real time with anyone in the world for essentially a zero cost (anyone who phoned overseas in the 90s will know how much of a difference that is), I don’t have to wait on a monthly magazine or weekly radio/tv show to see what new music is being released or what gigs are on.  So at the moment, it is the big technology in my life other than my CD and record player.

Music

Like last week, I am going to subject you to a semi-random Heavy Metal tune from each of the years in the 90s.  We will begin with 90, 91 and 92

1990. Bathory – One Rode to Asa Bay.  The closing track of probably my favourite album from 1990, Hammerheart.  Epic heavy metal at its finest and a massive influence on the folk, viking and doom genres.

1991. Skyclad – Our Dying Island.  Arguably the first proper folk metal band.  Still very thrashy at this stage of their career.

1992. My Dying Bride – The Bitterness and the Bereavement. Doom Death is not for everyone but the violin, with the starkness of the vocals and the heaviness of the riffs creates some great emotional music.

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Answers questioned!

1.

Hmm, what Pop culture? I missed Star Trek: TNG… it was such a thing. They did that commercial tv thing of put the first three or four episodes on during prime time/ evening… then shunt it 1130pm on a Thursday or something random. Grrr.

I miss actual Grunge, and the kind of music that became “Nu Metal” before it turned to Nu Metal… aka poop.

Korn was in that later group…

I miss the Animaniacs and Rocko’s Modern Life!

 

2.
A bad thing about the 90’s ? Non-political??What about… Urgh, high school. What about … mainstream culture in Australia was obsessed with sport (still is really) and unlike these modern and enlightened times (ha!) where Nerd culture is accepted, back then expressing Nerd Fandom was a swift ticket to mockery.

 

3.
I believe this one was answered… in the 90’s!

Hmm, and we all know how that went down…

Can we? Should we? What are the benefits? What do we risk? We can only try our best with what we know at the time, history will answer it later…

 

4.
Technology! Where’s my hover board?!? Where’s my flying car?!?

I am impressed with where bionics are going though.

 

@dawfydd that’s the second recommendation I’ve heard about the movie, and it’s only just been released, well then.

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I pledge to hobby, maybe: if the little ones give me some time to do so. Am I doing this right? 😛

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@dawfydd <20 points>

10 points (yes points, I couldn’t be bothered with fictional currencies this week hahaha) for first post. As for Captain Marvel Im going to it Sunday after work with friends.

How many Scions? Scions are cool! 10 points for the pledge.

Best of luck getting home from London and the hospital.

The Emperor Protects.

@horati0nosebl0wer <50 Points>

15 points, X-Files was great.

With the way rap went, I could type a little about it but it could be construed the wrong way so I shan’t.

Haha I love that clip. 10 points.

It’s a nice sentiment with the implications but I think too many people in science and technology wanna make a name for themselves to actually ask themselves that question. A kind of success/fame/recognition vs morality. 5 points.

That’s true with yonder internet. I would probably never get my hands on a bunch of stuff hobbywise either be it rogue trader marines with ebay nor Heroqeust which I picked up recently, to name a few. 20 points.

10 points for groove in the heart, it brightened my day up which is turning into a downhill fluey, congested, sinusey, watery eyed poopshow.

Damn dude that’s a lof of music.

10 for march of the pigs.

Wheres your pledge bucko?

@kiranamida <20 points>

You are doing fine buddy! A warm welcome to you. 10 points for your first post on this and 10 for the pledge. If you would like to tell us more about the potential pledge, post some music and answer the above questions, that would be good. Don’t bother if you don’t feel like it though 😉

I do encourage you to post away and immerse yourself in the banter though.

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@horati0nosebl0wer the X-Files was fantastic, but by the same token, it had its time. Always a good show though. Good music too!

@evilstu ah yes the CD, the music store. I do remember them ?

I also remember dial up internet, and BBS’s… I don’t exactly miss those.

@sundancer the dishwasher and washing machine are fine machines, well worth mentioning. Especially now we can have them communicate to the fridge and tv so we know our washing is done!

@robert well, that was a musical education ? I’d not heard anything of those guys, except maybe Bathory. That was pretty good.

I’ve spent so long this evening composing my replies and listening to 90’s music I’ve not really done any hobby! But the music has been great, and I’ve been listening to more on YouTube … ah good times. I spent time converting my hand written lists of minis into a spreadsheet, so I can see the whole pile in one place. Then I can mark what’s painted, delete was sold/ traded and organise groups so I can pick a focus for future projects!

While browsing YouTube I found this too. It’s alright. You might have seen it already…

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@sundancer <65 points>

That bill I empathise with, I wish you well and hope it goes by quicky. However, please keep it down with the cursing and use of the ‘F-word’ please.

1. All over the place? Sounds like a tough time. But hey, it made you who are you now. 15 points.

2. 10 points, yes, a very big mistake. Led to further problems down the while as well as certain puppet governments or shady friends of certain big countries and odd backroom deals. I wont go any further lest it be deemed political.

3. Technology Question: What is your opinion on the following mantra with potential dangerous, albeit for the moment mainly theoretical technology: if we can do something, should we do it? Kind of an Isaac Asimov Question.

Yes something like that. 20 points. As for a hammer, could not help it:

4. Technology Question: What piece of technology are you enjoying using or is due to be released soon that you look forward to? This can be anything from an early 90s printer to VR gaming, or anything going off in a tangent.

Cant fault practicality 20 points. Go more into videogames plase 😉

A pledge good sir?

@evilstu <35 points>

Happy weekend! Your welcome 😉

Try man, if you want and if you can, its all you can do. It isnt a job on here and should be fun! Im kinda coldeyfluey today myself. Gonna carb up to heck. Feel strong enough to fight it, had a nice weight lifting session yesterday. Today is laptop, rest, hobby and binge watch for me today.

90s and Firestarter, yes. Hm I will check this now.

No good is an AMAZING song I love it, one of my fave prodigy tracks.

5 points for the music sample.

1. 30 points. I do not do the whole spotify thing. Algorithms wrankle me as I see my favourite youtubers (ironically) as well as BoW get kinda of shafted by algorithms. Gaming stores I would not have been too famliar with until the mid 90s and even then I was probably too small to notice too much of difference stuff or appreciate the cornocopia of things at the time that were present. Valid point on bands but I think the internet can get more talented people the spotlight who may have fell prone to not great luck in the past. I still deliberately buy CDs, and was sad my local record shop which closed and reopened, closed again recently. It also had difficulty getting in CDs I wanted. Im glad a DVD/CD chain reopened two stores in my nearby city of Limerick but the selection still not on par with Amazon or the like. More elitist than nostalgic to me.

I prefer the internet as it is now myself.

2. 15 points, that stuff you describe was vile. I did like Alien 3 for some reason. Maybe I should rewatch it…

3. 15 points, very deep.

4. Can you post pics of said Eastern European buildings and Dwarven Fortifcations? I like your optimistic predictions! 15 points.

10 points for the pledge.

@horati0nosebl0wer <50 Points>

That is a lot of green jello for a total of 30 points. I like em but wont listen to the full length album either.

As for the 90s compilation thing at the end. Well I cannot listen to everything on it, its like 1/103 songs? Ill get around to it druing the week, if I can, haha. 20 points. Oddly enough I was dancing to this (Underworld, Born slippy) in a club a couple of weeks ago at a coworkers going away dude, they had a lot of 90s and dance stuff on which was heavenly.

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Damn this is taking me a while to reply to haha. Im listening to all the music and enjoying it. Im probably gonna go offline for a few hours and sporadically check back in. Not gonna have the thread consume my day haha. One more reply to follow as I listen away. I hoped to go back over awards and totals for the previous two threads I did but answering just this one so far has take a lot more time than I predicted. So, I am off to cook some food, watch the Umbrella Academy and paint.

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Some sonic youth

@rayzryr <50 points>

Man your killing me with the length of the posts! HA just kidding its great to have this level of effort and immersion. It was a fun poopy decade. The jaded hangover and bounce back to the rager of a weekend of alcohol, booger sugar and colourful crazyness that was the 1980s

10 points for the pledge. Sounds fun!

Cant wait to see more Dark Angel project. You gonna do a hobby project log on the site? Consecrator squad?

10 for In Bloom. Im not a huge Nirvana fan but still like em and love that song in particular.

10 points for the varnish/walk/food and telling us about your day. I like that.

10 points for Beck, classic! Love that song.

10 points for peaches.

 

 

@robert <95 points>

Man I do remember you like your rugby, but no worries about the pledge, enjoy your thaaaang. Surely there is a nearby gaming group for you to get games in with?

1. All new music is kinda derivative though isnt it? Covers, remixed styles, less instruments, more pop? Prodigy was iconic. 15 points.

2. You know what? Start away. 5 points for now.

3. Goodness no in general the human race is nasty to itself. You’d swear we were a prison planet that just kind of got forgot about and advanced. 10 points

4. 25 points, I like it!

40 points for the music, I like your style. The singer in Skyvlad reminds me of the one from slayer (10, 20 and 10 points respectiely).

Random metal is always good.

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