Marvel Timeline movies in order … but Eternals?!?

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I guess I blame the typography/font that turns the hyphen into a near invisible dot.

(also : I’m so used to hyphen being used when big words need to flow into the next line that I don’t even notice it be-

ing there.)

Anyways …

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If it makes you feel better, when Peter Parker made his debut in Amazing Fantasy # 15 in September 1962, it was as ‘Spiderman’. Since the first issue of his own title the following March, however,  the name has been rendered ‘Spider-Man’ in all media. Admittedly that is only marginally more recent than 1962, but it could be argued that you were technically correct.

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and as we all know : technical correct is the best kind of correct 😉

I still refer to the thing as spiderman.

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Now, there you’re totally wrong: the Thing is Ben Grimm.

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but here’s the thing … the fantastic 4 aren’t 😉

(talk about a franchise that only ever did stinkers ? :D)

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Thor … nah, not a fun movie. More like a Superhero movie that was trying to get women to watch these things.

Skipping the end movie credits to catch the next glimpse suggests that the next movie should be ‘the avengers’.

I’ll probably watch Hulk first though. It’s weird that they did 2 Hulk movies in what feels like really short order.

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Just finished Thor: Love & Thunder. Probably one of the best of all the movies, and that’s down to Taika Watiti. Just so much fun. Like JoJo Rabbit but with superheroes – and not just the Captain!

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Incredible Hulk … yikes. The cameo by Lou Ferringo was the best bit of the entire movie 🙂

Overall I’d say from the first 6 the two Iron Man movies were the most fun.
Avengers and Captain America may be fun to watch again.

 

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Was not a fan of the Thor movies. First two were rather dull and the last two were silly. Thor as comic relief works in an Avengers movie.

Pretty much everything since Endgame has been very poor and I stopped watching the disney+ series as they were dreadful.

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I’d say the problem with the Marvel universe is that they made the final boss in each individual movie too big.

Endgame with it’s “Universe ending” threat meant that there was nothing left to challenge the heroes any more.
There’s some room for movies that show the aftermath, but superhero movies don’t tend to do these kind of life changing lessons.

I think that’s why I like the movies about ‘small’/personal threats to the heroes more. Failure is still an option and there’s room to improve even once they ‘win’.

Where do you go after defeating god-like beings ?
Especially if said creature killed 50% of all characters …

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@pagan8th I’d say Thor is like Superman. He’s too one dimensional to carry a whole movie.
He can work in an ensemble so you get that ‘fish out of water’ to lighten the mood.
OTOH … that’s the kind of thing that Captain America has as well in this iteration.

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From what I’ve gleaned from the comic book dudes I watch on YouTube , Universal/Sony have the rights to Spider-Man ( and IRC Hulk ) as a single  character for movies , Disney / Marvel can only use them in larger team ( Avenger ) type movies . Sony also has the rights to various classic  Spider – Man / Hulk villians , and thats why they don’t appear in Marvel movies .

For the last half dozen years or so , the movies have been written by Hollywood types who have no interest in or love of the comic book genre , unlike Faverou or Weadon , both comic fan boys . Hence the race / gender swaps and girlboss moments .  The 5 hour reveal for the Doomsday movie ( s ) was boring with a lot of 2nd level characters returning .  Not a lot of excitement generated in the older comic community I’m afraid .

Still hoping for a Black Widow / Hawkeye Budapest story ,  it would be a better sendoff for Natasha than that movie they gave us .  I know Scarlet said she isn’t coming back but if they offered her $80 million like they gave RDJ , I think she might …..

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Budapest would be a great cap for the Black Widow / Hawkeye story indeed. They even reference it in one of the movies, a teaser – so maybe Disney was thinking of doing it.

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// the movies have been written by Hollywood types who have no interest in or love of the comic book genre

I’d say that’s what Hollywood always does.
It’s rare to get someone who actually understands the source material to do any movie in Hollywood.

We got really lucky with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but even that didn’t last as Hollywoods’ influence was clearly visible in the Hobbit.

/rant

I must admit that I don’t know any of the superhero source material.  Although as source material goes that’s also not the most stable out there as every superhero apparently has a reboot of his origin story every so often. If there’s anyone able to milk source material for maximum financial gain then it is the superhero genre.

Maybe that’s why I liked the Deadpool movies. It’s one of the lucky few that got a producer/director/actor combo that had a real passion for the subject.

@a27cromwell of course she will be back if she’s needing the money. But then I do believe her primary argument was that her character had a meaningful sacrifice in that final movie. A return from the dead would lessen the impact of that sacrifice, but then that’s an issue that the genre itself suffers from with villains who won’t stay dead and endless reboots/re-imagine-ings of origin stories.

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I think the best MCU film by a mile is Captain America: the Winter Soldier. It’s a solid and mostly self-contained story based fairly closely on one of the better runs from the comics, written by Ed Brubaker in the mid 2000s.

I also really liked Civil War (although it’s a little overstuffed with guest stars) and the first Black Panther. The first two Ant-Man movies are pretty fun too, on the lighter side but not as silly as Thor or as desperate to be clever as Guardians.

The rest I could take or leave. I think Eternals is the only one I wouldn’t watch again, it was simultaneously dull and had too much going on.

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