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  • #1404263

    nakchak
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    @limburger

    I think you would probably find contrast going less far than layer paint, mainly beacuse its basically at wash consistency and its just crap with a small brush, with the hands on i had at games expo the best results were with a medium or large shade brush (a 3 or 4 in typical brush sizes) anything smaller and well it just didnt hold enough to let you push the shade about, so it will be quite wasteful, plus as its a very alien technique to most of us (unless you paint water color apparently) i expect quite a few repaints and faffs before we find what works for us.

    #1404264

    truthslayer
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    Just FYI the citadel paint app just had a major update that adds contrast paints to the model specific paint guides in place of the dry brushing guides. Not happy that they got rid of the dry brushing stuff myself but it should give people ideas on how to get the colors they want

    #1404280

    limburger
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    @truthslayer are you sure they’ve removed it ?
    Maybe they have made it the default and the ‘traditional’ stuff is hidden under an option ?
    Their website still mentions both.

    It even has two tutorials that combine contrast with ‘traditional’ paint :

    https://citadelcolour.com/playlist/6039773749001/6044433165001

    https://citadelcolour.com/playlist/6039773749001/6044438019001

    @nakchak it probably explains the slightly bigger pots, but it still would be interesting to have an estimate.

    #1404352

    truthslayer
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    @limburger

    the videos are yup yes BUT on the app they have color instructions on how to get certain colors through layering and highlighting. There use to be a dry brush option that option is now gone

    #1404392

    chilledenuff
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    Let’s be fair though. Drybrushing a whole mini to a tabletop gaming standard never looks great, always finishes grainy. Gw clearly want contrast to be their q”paint an army” solution. As a business model it makes sense

    #1404433

    truthslayer
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    So a weathered model  dosent  look tabletop ready? Drybrushing scales adds nothing to a model? The app used drybrushing in place of line finishing if the point of the contrast line is to make it easy for people to paint but your going to throw up the barrier of line finishing over drybrushing why bother?

    #1404497

    jamjarst
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    Well just taken the plunge and ordered the full set of contrasts (from OnTableTop of course)! Will be trying them out soon 🙂

    #1404626

    chilledenuff
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    @truthslayer, don’t get me wrong.  Drybrushing is a very useful tool.  One of the best for chainmail, scales and fur.  However the finish doesn’t lend itself to larger, flatter areas.  Neither do contrast paints though :/  If GW want to put contrast on their app then that’s what they’ll do.  From my short trial at gw last weekend, I got a better finish on a pox walker with the contrast paints then I ever would with drybrushing alone.  The drybrush examples on the app were always designed to be a ‘this is what you can do if you drybrush alone’ which no one would really ever do

    #1404854

    limburger
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    @truthslayer : I’ve re-installed the app and the technique is still listed in the ‘techniques’ section and as part of the ‘parade ready’ painting instructions overview.

    And looking at the ‘paint by model’ instructions the dry brushing steps are included in the ‘parade ready’ part of models.
    The paint steps might differ between the ‘contrast’ and ‘classic’ guides though.

    Same thing is done in the colour based painting guides. Drybrushing is in the ‘parade ready’ section of a guide.
    Example : ‘Purple black’ requires a dry brush using ‘dawn stone’ when using contrast paints, but the ‘classic’ technique tells you to use ‘layer’

    Now I don’t know if their previous guides had more colours / models that required dry brushing as part of the final step in the painting guides.

    btw : it looks not all colours or models have a ‘contrast’ paint guide at this time.
    I’m guessing that’s because there aren’t any contrast paints suitable to those particular colour variants or because the guides haven’t been updated yet.

     

     

    #1408052

    torros
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    Saw this do though I would add it to the list

     

    #1408080

    limburger
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    @torros that is great.  I was wondering which contrast colours could work for historical figures.

    With 15 mm figures you could probably dip them in 😉

    #1408083

    robert
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    @torros they look ok.

    #1408178

    phaidknott
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    Thanks for the 15mm video there Torros, looks indeed very good for doing WW1 to Moderns very effectively (or armies where they have a “standard” across the entire army without too much detail (like napolenonics).

    All that’s needed now is to work out the paint recipes for certain armies (like the greenish brown for Russian uniforms and your away). HOWEVER it does seem that you’d need to be very exact painting over the undercoat to avoid patches of the undercoat showing through (I usually paint over a black undercoat as although it dulls the colours down it’s a lot more forgiving if you miss a spot).

    But for doing masses of infantry (not that most FoW/TY players paint masses of infantry :D), this looks a good way of getting them on the table to an acceptable standard very quickly 🙂

     

    #1408360

    torros
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    Still not convinced and getting the colour mixed correctly every time would be a pain. Maybe some emails to GW to produce some khaki colours etc would be helpful

    #1408760

    torros
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    Ok last vid

     

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