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February 1, 2025 at 2:56 pm #1914215
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First time visitor to OTT? Then please introduce yourself in the New Member Thread and look around in the Project System. Then come back and read on…
https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/introduce-yourselves-new-member-thread/
https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/
Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.
First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.
You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.
If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.
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Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.
Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)
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Question of the week:
- Trench crusade – will it last or burn bright and fast and then be gone again?
And now back to the show.
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February 1, 2025 at 3:03 pm #1914217Pledge: may do something eventually
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I do like the style and the background but I think this will be a “here now, gone tomorrow” type. And that’s just my gut telling me. Maybe because it’s “an internet sensation”. It’s not a box game in the store. Games with presence on shelves feel like they last longer. But that is just my gut.
Music: Lemmy sing a song
February 1, 2025 at 3:58 pm #1914222There will be the inevitable “this will kill 40k” nonsense … and when it does what it realisticly can do (= get big within a niche) those people will claim it is ‘dead’.
One Page Rules didn’t have a boxed set either … and that’s grown pretty big despite all of that.
Trench crusade definitely struck a cord with the kickstarter.
They do appear to have quite a bit of momentum to get the community itself kickstarted to a level that will keep it active.The only real ‘problem’ for this game is that even a bare bones army will require either access to a 3D printer or a ton of kitbashing.
3D printing has matured quite a bit though … so maybe this could be the one game that can beat the odds and live. Other games have tried this route, but (AFAIK) none have gathered this much momentum/hype when trying to do so. It could be the thing that sets it apart from all the other games that have tried to go this route.
And again … even if a significant portion of backers stop playing (as they follow the cult of shiny) … they may have enough fanatical/obsessed fans to end up with a big enough community to keep it going.
Games don’t need huge GW killing amount of followers to stay afloat.
Fans just need to be realistic in their expectations and accept that non-historical games are always going to be rather ‘small’ when compared to anything GW does. Xwing has IMHO been the only game to ever come close to those dizzy heights.tl;dr;
It won’t kill GW games, but it will be a brand folk will recognise for a few years at the very least. Especially if things like the Red Brigade kickstarter help expand the setting and hype.
February 1, 2025 at 4:32 pm #1914223Pledge: finish two big Canoptek Destroyers – the end of batch 1, Necrons of DOOM! is getting close…
https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1910433/Answer: if anything, Trench Crusade, and the Necrons project, has turned me towards 40k, again. I think Trench Crusade will do fine, it looks cool, I am just not sure it will be big where I live.
Do you want BLOOD?!? Well, fine; you’ve got it… GWAR STYLE!
February 1, 2025 at 5:39 pm #1914224My pledge can’t be completed in a week… and at the moment it’s a just a hope that relies of numbers… I want to retire at my next birthday when I’ll be 61… that’s November 2025.
Trench Crusade looks interesting, but I have so many unplayed wargames that I need to step away from it.
If it’s a kickstarter only sensation and relying on 3D printing then it may be doomed to fade quickly from notice.
February 1, 2025 at 6:35 pm #1914235retire at 61 ?
Are you a millionaire or French ? 😉
or both ? 😀
I’m currently trying to focus on doing just one thing of hobby, but then kickstarters like Blood&Bayonets happen and I find myself browsing the blackpowder ranger over at the warlord site. (and I did order more Bolt action bits as the Compendium was available … and to get free shipping I added the Kelly’s Heroes set because I wanted that anyway. )
Did I mention distractions ? The new “Armies of America” is up for pre-order … but as that’s released in April I didn’t add that to the basket. Instead I made a second list for me to use next time.
Like I said .. focus is hard.The Monty Python kickstarter arrived (and there was much rejoicing). I think I should have gone for the extra fancy book version, but no real regrets either way.
Maybe I’ll unpack more boxes that I didn’t unpack after the move so I can find even more distractions.
Did I mention that the Relic Knights ip has been bought by a different company and they’re launching a kickstarter at Adepticon 2025 ? They also made a very tempting offer for me to pay them either 50% retail or ‘at cost’ (only the minis) to get the bits I had backed for way back when.
So yeah … distractions are everywhere.
I really wish I had just one game I liked, instead of almost ‘all of them’.
Battletech claims to start shipping to EU backers for real this time (clearly nothing was at the hub or else they would have shipped something … another CGL lie), but I suspect there’s more delays so I am not thinking of that one.
February 1, 2025 at 8:39 pm #1914263Nope. Not millionaire. Far from it. But I’m getting to the point where I need to finish work before the job finishes me.
It will be a lean few years and money will be tight, but I’ll find a way.
Nothing commited yet. I need to see the figures and I can’t get them until a few months before I plan to retire.
February 1, 2025 at 10:23 pm #1914264I’m guessing when you do look for a new job they think you are ‘too old’ ?
I like my job, but otoh I’d be tempted to retire early if that was financially viable to do so.
February 2, 2025 at 7:33 am #1914299Trench Crusade will burn bright but it might quickly fade as there isn’t the same kind of core that GW has built. The variety of games out there will draw away from the game eventhough it has a solid idea and sense of gravitas behind it.
Pledge: Get more work done on the Greek ladies after my most recent addition. Get some sleep. Try to claw back some sense of center.
A bit of fun only at the beginning of kitbashing. I lament my lack of better sculpting skill and will complain about an inability to make the face better. It will get better. I’m down to my final three units.
February 2, 2025 at 2:49 pm #1914331One Page Rules didn’t have a boxed set either … and that’s grown pretty big despite all of that.
True but they didn’t start as a big Kickstarter. They did little steps in every direction. @limburger
Trench Crusade looks interesting, but I have so many unplayed wargames that I need to step away from it.
Who has not? (See todays XLBS) @pagan8th
The variety of games out there will draw away from the game eventhough it has a solid idea and sense of gravitas behind it.
That’s probably the problem. Too many games and variants available. We’re getting into “ananlysys paralysis” territory here I think @horati0nosebl0wer
February 2, 2025 at 4:18 pm #1914347This week’s pledge is to pick one of the three sets of models I assembled and undercoated last week to start painting, and to crack on. Not sure which ones to go with right now.
I also played some more Heroes of Might and Magic 3 this weekend: https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1909513/
- Trench crusade – will it last or burn bright and fast and then be gone again? – Really hard to say. Seems to me that nearly every game, unless its a “core game” from one of the biggest companies, fades into the background quickly, drags along for a few years, then disappears.
February 2, 2025 at 5:15 pm #1914356I have more abyssal dwarves to work on. So hopefully I’ll have a unit of ten painted this week.
Trench crusade won’t last very long at all. We’ve seen loads of these games go the same way. They’re hobby masturbation projects and rarely see the table or the rulebook even. Remember turnip 28? Same deal here. Yourube fodder with not much backing it up. I have no problem with it, but I lurk those circles and I see the same over excited converters not getting very far once rhe novelty wears off.
February 2, 2025 at 8:55 pm #1914375@sundancer OPR may not have started as a (big) kickstarter, but they did manage to gather momentum by being there at the right time in history as it were.
Trenchcrusade may have gotten that same lucky break to get going (with a bit of help of it being crowdfunded).
It probably did benefit a bit from things like ‘The Doomed’.If we could predict the future we’d be rich and have had our perfect 40k killing wargame ages ago.
Since we can’t I’ll settle for the next best thing : a new game in as close to what could be a new genre. And probably top dog within that niche for a few years at least.
Historical games tend to have it easy compared to fictional settings. The latter need so much luck to arrive at the right time to go big. That’s why most of them fade away after launch, because they tend to drown in the endless waves of new things getting released. Maybe the link to ‘real world’ history is what helps Trenchcrusade survive ?
February 3, 2025 at 6:35 am #1914377I’m not saying TC is going down by any stretch. But at the same time these games are “the sh!t” for a time and then “everybody” goes back to playing G’Wullu games. And mostly because it’s easy to get stuff. They are everywhere. Same as X-Wing was.
I think that is the breaking point: you need to have a barrier to entry that is as low as G’Wullu games. That’s how you could be able to actually be a threat to G’Wullu.
February 3, 2025 at 2:17 pm #1914427 -
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