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    huscarle
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    Foot to eye they really look 15mm to me.

    I must say now I have set of sprues I’m quite impressed by what I see and excited where this new venture from Warlord may lead.

    There are 10 sprues of infantry made of a command sprue then two variations of the rank and file, 5 of one and 4 of the other so by alternating it’s easy to achieve a good variation of figures across the line. The unit bases can confirm are 60mm x 20mm.

    I’m probably going to split a starter with a friend so £45 is a pretty economic way of trying something new.

    #1591635

    torros
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    @huscarle How easy would it be to cut the strips up?

    #1591657

    huscarle
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    Very I would say. They are all joined at the elbow and forearm mostly. I would think with a bit of filing to reshape or a tiny bit of green stuff you could hide the cut quite easily.

    #1591659

    phaidknott
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    @ravensdark121 I think that’s kind of the point. Over the years we’ve got used to highly compressed frontages (and double rank basing) as “the norm” to allow us to fit more units on a table (basically leading us up to our current “rank em up and throw dice at each other” style of gaming where the baseline is full of units and there’s no flanks etc).

    Back in to 80’s and 90s when we had things like figure ratios and unit frontages were measured in paces (and then converted down to a table scale) we used to see figures based in a single rank and units in line WERE a pain as they took up a lot of space (if you think about it a unit in line is anything up to 300 men across but only 3 men deep, so the frontage should be massive).

    But “gamers scale” is the current norm (whatever that is), and basing and frontage is now along the lines of what looks good and is convenient for the rules author (rather than based in real world physics and/or historical fact). These new 10 men strips “should” really be based in a single rank to reflect their real world frontage, and even with Warlords double ranking we still “see” the frontage as excessive.

    Of course a lot also has to do with the level of the ruleset, if you’re after a more “grand tactical” game then unit frontages (and even formation) is a moot point. But I enjoy a good old tactical level game where you change units formations, deploy skirmishers etc.

    #1591666

    torros
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    Well I know Sam Mustafa said for his SYW rulset that if he used proper ground scale then each regiment on the table woukd be 9″ wide and 1/8 ” deep

    #1591683

    phaidknott
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    @torros Yup, but some attempt at getting the frontages right should be made if your looking at simulating historical battles (otherwise you’d never come across the difficulties the historical commanders of the day came across). Perhaps there’s a sliding scale of historical fact vs tabletop expediency, but these days it’s become almost totally based in expediency as we’ve dropped things like figure ratios, ground scale etc.

    #1591985

    somegeezer
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    There’s a pretty good comparison and a look at splitting the figures in this vid.

    #1592452

    ghent99
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    Well I am the Fry meme and just threw a wad of money towards these.  Warlord has a nice little video on their Youtube channel as to the why for a lot of the questions that are out there.  ACW is one I don’t want to play at 28mm and the 15ish or whatever mm is really is allows for a more “epic” feel and I can use a lot of my terrain from other games to fill out a table.  I am sure if this is successful then we will see a lot more options from Warlord in plastic for this ACW set and other time periods.

     

    Happy New Year!

    #1598803

    gargvarun041
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    I like the ACW but I’ve already got a lot of 6mm stuff so I might get a starter set just to support the move to smaller scales and see how the minis look. Painting 15mm strips will be a bit different, at 6mm you can get away with a lot of blobs and line but 15mm not so much especially for the Confederates.

    I hope they do this for a few more periods, I think people would love some 15mm Plastic Napoleonics and it could be the gateway they’re looking for. 9apps

    #1598877

    admiralandy
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    Are there any differences to BP Epic rules from ‘normal’ BP sized rules. Or is this simply a new scale to try with an established game. Which as someone pointed out, people have been doing for years anyway.

    As for why ACW in this scale, well they don’t do an ACW starter box themselves, but sell the Perrys Battle in a box, which comes with its own Firepower rules, written I think by Alessio. So there maybe some background considerations about playing nice with companies with whom they have a good relationship they don’t want to sour. Whilst doing there own thing but not conflicting with there own product lines. They do have a Napoleonic BP starter after all already, and AWI and Rorkes Drift battle sets.

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