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Appartmant Street ‘Terrain Challenge’

Appartmant Street ‘Terrain Challenge’

Project Blog by wilco92

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About the Project

Due to a life getting in the way i never have time to enter any of the Terrain Challenges or even get involver in the forums as much as i like, and still don't have the time. so i thought for my Terrain Challenge why not let it build itself!! about two years ago i backed a Kickstarter by Z1Design whom had designed a modular modern day, 3D printable Buildings. I've only just got my 3D printer going and why not whits I'm at work have it build my Terrain Challenge for me HA HA HA. i hope to keep you all updater on my progress, troubles and successes as my work horse of a 3D printer churns through the filament and i can show what can be made. keeping it on topic. i will be making a tourist of American city style apartments t use in my games off Walking Dead, DC Universe and Fallout. the major thing i will need to contend with is time, for me to have time to keep up with the project and the time it takes to print everything to build this project. hope you all keep with me on my first ever Project, Terrain Challenge and first major forum posts.

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Dose the Pre Primer Work?

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So once dried and on the pre primed test then primed in the skeleton bone lets see the results.

i think in the bricks the pre primer (filler Primer) has firstly helped mask some of the visible stepping n the brinks and secondly has given a small amount of texture to the bricks that i really like.

on the floor tiles the difference is less apparent by I’m still thinking that the pre primed has more potential to help fix issues that may appear on some other parts.

in addition i notice that due to the darker colour of the filler primer the files do have a darker tone.

you may be asking why go for skeleton bone. i want to have the bace colour represent the multer between the bricks so when over brushing the bricks the colour between them is still there.

Compare the Primmer (.com)

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firstly i also have a sanded and unsanded tile that have both been primed in the skeleton bone to see if the sanding is an over all help.

Note: after sanding i have used a tooth brush under a tape and brushed in to the nooks and cranys to remove excess from sanding to hep adhesion of the primer.

looking at the result i do think it has helped towards removing some of the texture left behind by the 3D Printer.

First Test Coats

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Next on one of the wall and one of the floor panels i have primed using a Holfords Filler Primer, this i have seen BOW John use before as it helps cover over some imperfections such as some of the stepping after sanding.

im also trying at the same time the same type of panels in a Army Painter Skeleton Bone Spray primer so i can compare once the first ones have dried and then over primes in skeleton bone too if there is a difference or not.

Testing the Foundations (Premiering)

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one thing i want to test before going ahead is the right way to primer the 3D printed elements.

due to how the parts are printed in layers i feel a very light and fine sand of the merger surfaces should help to prevent the stepping becoming to apparent when painted. I’m using in this test a 180gram sand paper and very lightly sanding by had over the merger surfaces. i am also going to test primer an unsanded part to to compare.

The Back Ally (NO WARRAN NOOO!)

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Starting to look at some Scatter for the street and the ally i want to create between two of the buildings.

i plan to have dumpsters, trash cans, bin bags, old furniture as well as fire hydrants, lamp hosts and a parking meter on the side walk..

i have some scatter from the TT Combat range of ally terrain but as its very individual bits i feel i need to combine some to make more substantial terrain segments.

 

A Little Bit of Shade.

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Befor i shaded the cars i blacked out all the Tyers;

Back to shading now. for the red car i used the army painter red tone and am very happy withe the result to help it dry without to many streaks i added a touch of flow improver.

on all the others i used army painter soft town to help give all the panel lines some definition.

Window Painting Tim

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I Painted the car and vans windows in four steps.

First: White them out using white primer this took a couple of coats but i kept it not looking to even to distort the reflective look on them.

Second: Add some Sky. Using some army painter electric blue with a touch of white and flow improver i air brushed some blue on to the windows to imitate the reflection of the sky and used the uneven whit to show like closed effects.

Third: Sun Shade. Using a Valejo Air Black and flow improver to thin it i attempted to give the effect of a sun screen shade at the top of the wind screens.

Fourth: i blacked out any rear windows that i wanted to have fully blacked out windows using army painter mat black.

Adding Colour to my Wheels!

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Adding my bace colours to the cars using my Vallejo Air range of air brush paints and a couple of others.

The Red Muscle Car:

Vallejo Air Red 2-1 of Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver

 

The Silver People Carrier:

50-50 Army Painter Uniform Grey and Plate Mail Metal and a couple of drops of Vallejo Air Blue warred down 2-1 with Vallejo Airbrush Flow Improver

 

The Police Car:

Air Bushed the side panels White using the Primer i used before. will be cleaning this up later.

50 Shades of Pre Shade

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All Pre Shades.

50 Shades of Pre Shade

Primer in the paint shop!

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PRIMER.

I’m using Stynylrez Black Primer by Badger Air Bruchs as it is a great primer, self levels very well and dosn’t need thinking in the air brush. I’m also using Stynylrez White Primer on one of the vans (Need a White Van Man).

PRE SHADE.

Using the Stynylrez White Primer I’m zenithing the cars that i want to pain a distinct colour to so the shade shows up in the body work. on the white van I’m not pre-shading. on the police car and one van i want to keep black I’ve decide to use a Stynylrez Grey Primer to give it a off black colour that i can work on later.

NO PARKING...!!

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Been a busy weekend. been painting up some vehicles that will coupe the roads outside the buildings I’m printing.

I’m using resin moulded cars and vans from another great Kickstarter from the guys at Kore Aeronautics called TableTop Cars 32mm.

I’ve chosen some from this range I’ve backed that include: a police car, muscle car, 2 vans and a people carrier.

i plan to paint them up to give the project that exit demotion outside the buildings themselves swell as giving myself somthing to paint and develop as the 3D Printer (Barry) dose his thing.

IM BATMAN!!

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and she rises..!

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Here is my first big build of all the parts imvi printed so far. form ground floor to second, third, fourth and finally the first roof section.

looking like i may not be able to get all four printed and the sidewalks done in time for the end of the terrain challenge but ill be shot to give it a good try.

here are some pics.

The Box is filling up.

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Just wanted to show everyone exactly what I’ve done softer and how time seeing to expand every day. makes me feel good 🙂

 

Looking at Colour..

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I’m starting to think about painting. After looking at some reference images I’m thinking for now to go for the red brick look and the creamy coloured malter.

Thinking a bace primer of army painter skeleton bone then layer up with a light brush the red over so it only catches the bricks. only other idea is after the skeleton bone maybe a steep angle zenith on a mid brown or something to make a light shadow and to give more of a tone then doing the bricks…

Still not there yet but am looking in to getting primed soon or started.

Other details are the dark colours around the roof tops look good and thinking going maybe an off black to the fire escapes instead of a complementry colour in the reds but not shore if the black will be to overpowering.

still not show about the larger soon parts like the stairs and lintels yet as a guy may clash and the red may be to much.

Will keep this space updated

Please leave any comments and look at my “OK Guys and Gals i need your opinion…!” Post as i still need help with some decisions on some of the details on what to do on fire escapes and roads/sidewalks.

Keeping up with the printing

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Right I’ve more or less finished the first building load of printing and how starting on the second. still worried that i wont be able to complete all the printing in the deadline and still paint and detail them. but we will see

DON'T PANIC....

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Want to keep everyone updated on issues i have had as well as my progress.

The other evening i have a coupe hours i had that i could fit a bit more printing in so i set Barry up to print some fire escapes. about an hour in i came back to find there was an issue. it looked like it had been missing layers and had made a mess of the print (see pictures below). once removed from the print bed and stated the print again i noticed that it wasn’t extruding the PLA properly and at times not at all. I Could feel that that the filament wasn’t being pulled in to the extruder very well so i unloaded and then reloaded the filament.

The filament reloaded but again didn’t flow as it should as i have only had the printer running for a couple of months i thought it was unlikely that the teeth on the extruder had worn down yet but after looking on the relevant forums and youtube i learnt that on the other side of the extruder is a wheel that gives presser to the filament and there are two adjustable bolts that once tightened bit more fixed the issue and has been working fine since.

This is why i advise anyone that is looking to buy a 3D printer to strongly consider the Prusa i3 range. the price is a little more than others (because a lot of others are copies) but the support and comity that use the Prusa i3 products are worth the extra price as a 3D printer is a hobby itself.

I have a cunning plan!! (the plan)

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The Plan.

whilst Barry (my 3D printer) is hard at work printing the parts for the buildings i need to decide what other things i need to consider and do to the rest of my project such as painting, adding accessories and detailing .

firstly, painting up the buildings. as it is a 3D printed project the serfases of each part are not 100% move and can look off with paint going start on to it, I’m going to take a look at a plastic primer from Halfords that i have seen used but the guys at beasts of war before that has like a self levelling property that i hope will help reduce the visual rigging that can occur with 3D Prints. i will attempt using just a basic primer and also a plastic primer then bace primer to see if there is a significant change or not. i will post this when i get to this stage.

Next details and accsesaries. firstly i plan to add street rubbish, lamp posts and fire hydrants as well as vehicle parked up. i will also be looking up and researching graffiti (one saying the end is nigh would be fitting), posters to be pasted on walls and maybe even some protest signs discarded on the floor to keep with the apocalyptic theme.

i want to also decorate the insides of the buildings if i have the time to give the full feel to the terrain.

The merger thing going on at the moment is that i think I’m about a quarter of the way through the build and am hoping everything keeps on track so i can get this project built.

OK Guys and Gals i need your opinions.....!

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I have two decisions to make on my projects and i hope to get some opinions on what i should do.

 

first one is the fire escapes. on all the reference images i have there set to the front of the buildings that look really good and give caricature, in addition give a good surface for game play for minis to sit on. BUT my mine is that don’t in the use in this style of buildings wouldn’t the fire escapes be to the back of the buildings in like the back alleys… let me know what you think would be best

 

Secondly is the road sections work in 3 different ways, i can print the side walk with curbs to the roads but i can have grided roads, move roads or no road at all just side walk and curbs. like the idea of having roads because i can have details like the manhole covers and drains. don’t see why i should have a grided road as i won’t be using any games that need a grid system but there will be a grid anyway as each road section will be a tile that will be connected and its impossible to eradicate the connections completely. I can alyways use a mat with roads that can give me the ability to move buildings about if needed and not to fixed. need some other opinions to help me decide whats the best thing to do

I will attache images below to show some of the references of what they could look like.

Thanks again guys

An image to give an idea of what my GOAL is!

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An image to give an idea of what my GOAL is!

Days 8-12 Progress Report.

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Ok after a log weekend I’ve almost got all the parts for Apartment 1 finished.

Unfortunately i have burnt my way through 2kg of filament and had to order more. I ordered more online with the shortest delivery time as every day with no printing counts. aster two days and no delivery i had to go to my back up plan that i didn’t really want to do, i had to go a different colour PLA Filament. i was hoping to keep the entire project in white filament to keep the risk of a slice colour change to a minimum when coming to paint. i had a roll of silver i hadn’t opened and as two days have past with no printing I’ve had to open it. i have decided to print the floors and stairs with it so no part of the main walls would be different and i can change the colour of floors as will without it looking to odd.

So back to a full Printing when i hope and once the white filament is here i can get back to printing more walls.

 

The Z1 clip system

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I thought i should show the Z1 Design clip system used in my project as it is a key part that literally keeps it together. it is a simple and surpassingly strong fixing that also disconnects smoothly and cleanly. no surprise that i have had to print a lot of them, any time i have a spare hour i print another batch.

Adhesion is Key!

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Adhesion is key to a good print. One thing i do every morning when setting up my printer to run for the day is watch the entire first layer being printed. yes this can take some time and can be a bour but it guarantees i can go away knowing that the adhesion of the first layer is good and i can come home to a good print and not a mess and a waist of filament.

Sometimes if a small area doesn’t stick to the bed perfect it can lift and effect the final print.

In some cases where the component is unseen like a sport or in this case a clip it being misshapen is ant an issue as it wont be seen but to avoid this happening i use a heat head adhesive and for the first layer slow the print bed speed to 50% so the filament has more time to bond with the bed and not just be pulled about.

Scale or not to Scale...

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During my first test prints i found that the 28mm scale of the building print files were just not big enough to give the accessibility for the playability that i want with this terrain. as the games are more like a 32mm scale or heroic scale i felt it was needed to increase the scale size to accommodate this.

I increased the file sizes by 25%. this gave a grander feel to the scale and gave the room to play inside the buildings without making them feel unplayable.

I have shown below the size difference between 100% print of the files and 125% of the print file and how they still look the part with the miniatures.

The STL Files...

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Wanted to talk about the files I’m using to print and some of matireals I’m useing to create my buildings.

As i have said in a later post I’m using the Appartmant building files from Z1 Designs Precinct 187 Kickstarter range that i backed in 2016.

The files consist of individual parts such as floor tiles, wall tiles and pilers that have a simple clip together and fit very well without could almost say the hole think can be push fit.

Im using PLA filament to build the project, easy to use and produces more detail than ABS. I wanted to use white filament as i think it will take the primer better as well as this i want to try to avoid using a range of colour fillaments so when primed for example on to white and black plastic there wont be a colour different to the parts once primed.

I also intend to use other STL Files that i have collected form other Kickstarters but ill talk more about that when i get to the stage of printing them.

One more thing worth mentioning is the software I’m using to set up the STL Files for my Prusa i3 MK2s. I’m currently using Cura as it gives a full range of features to help the print to come out the best it can first time. Other software i have used is Prusa Control made specially for the Prusa prints, its good for a beginner to print there first prints but when you move to fill a print bed so you can live it all day you need a more in depth bit of softwear like Cura or Slic3r.

Hope to keep you all up to date on my progress in using the printer and softwear and any issues i may encounter.

what i have Printed in the last 7 days!

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When i get up i set up Barry (my 3D Printer) so he can work as had as i am during the day. when i come home i find he has made me lovely things.

In the last 7 days I’ve manage to be able to print the ground floor and first floor of the first apartment building.

Hoping to get my camera out to get better pics that my phone.

hope to keep this space updated as much as i can.

What i want to do...

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My Plan is to produce a great back drop for my games of walking dead all out war, DC Miniatures game and in the future Fallout but also that can be used in game.

I want to build using Z1 Designs Precinct 187 Kickstarter range of 3D Files (STL Files) to make an american style Terest Street made of appartmants that can be used in game play and make a solid back drop to a gaming table.

I hope to build three of the four story apartments built together to make a terest then another apartment separated by an ally. i also wish to make the street and foot path and add street accessories to add detail to the terrain. in addition as the builds have fool foot floor plans i hope to fill them with furniture from other sources i have copied.

 

Day 1-7 so we begin...

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Sadly i haven’t had time for any hobby for some time due to work ruling my life but I’m putting my foot down and owing to take on “The End is Nigh Terrain Challenge”.

As i have not had the time to do this challenge due my job I’m going to nominate someone els to do it for me, i intraduse my 3D printer lets call him barry. i have Prusa i3 mk2s. I’ve had it up and running for about a month now and its time to take in for a little spin.

Day 1-7 so we begin...

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