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MadDocStu’s Romans

MadDocStu’s Romans

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About the Project

Saw Mortem Et Gloriam on OTT and thought it looked interesting, so got the rules and one of the new Plastic Soldier Company Pacto Box to make a starter army. Clearly I am doing the classic thing of getting into ancient and historical war-games as I approach 40... Welcome the world of the Late Imperial Romans (aka the People's Front of the Early to Middle Late Republical Roman Empire)

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Cataphracts

Tutoring 2
Skill 4
Idea 4
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Used good old contrasts on the cloaks and horses and plumes, but decided to use the old fashioned techniques on the rest of the minis (base, shade, layer, highlight).

Took ages to do the layers and at 15mm not sure it’s worth the effort.

Contrasts - cloaks (Some done in Leviadon Blue and some in Flesh Tearers Red), Gorgrunta Fur for the horseContrasts - cloaks (Some done in Leviadon Blue and some in Flesh Tearers Red), Gorgrunta Fur for the horse
Adding the armour.Adding the armour.
More base colours and then shading. (Retributor Armour shaded with Reikland Fleshshade, Lead Belcher armour and  blues and reds on strapping of horses and browns on saddles all shaded with Nuln Oil)More base colours and then shading. (Retributor Armour shaded with Reikland Fleshshade, Lead Belcher armour and blues and reds on strapping of horses and browns on saddles all shaded with Nuln Oil)
Layers added on details, (base layer, with lighter shades of base layer on top for details, but with skull crusher brass as final layer for gold armour). Also added shields.  Layers added on details, (base layer, with lighter shades of base layer on top for details, but with skull crusher brass as final layer for gold armour). Also added shields.
Finished by adding some details to the horses legs (Different coloured hoofs, and socks) and based up using techniques from older posts.Finished by adding some details to the horses legs (Different coloured hoofs, and socks) and based up using techniques from older posts.

The Auxilia (and making your own transfers with Lloyd's help!)

Tutoring 11
Skill 11
Idea 11
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Next up is the Auxilia.

Paint scheme and basing is a per previous entries so not going to go over that here in a detail. Only difference was the hats of the Infantry – these were Iyanden Yellow or Leviadon Blue to add variety.

Leviadon Blue is brilliant for larger areas like cloaks, but I found it very difficult to use on  the hats – it just pooled together too much and took some time to get decent coverage on the finer raised details on the hats.

The real fun part for these minis was the shields.

I wanted a nod to Cult of Games and OnTableTop – the inspiration to keep going with hobby though lock down has been brilliant. I wanted the CoG logo on the shields. I figured Romans a) have secret cults and b) would nick anything they liked and make it their own so the CoG logo would be OK for Romans and their Auxilia.

(I’m ignoring the fact the CoG logo looks like a bit like the sign of Tanit from Carthage – but then again the Romans could have just ripped that off too…)

Cult Shields

I asked Lloyd if he had the logo for Cult of Games and I set about working out how to get them on the shields.

I brought some transfer paper to use with my inkjet printer and set about wondering how on earth I was going to create the right shape and size of shield. I am no graphic designer…

Meanwhile Lloyd was going above and beyond and had created some AWESOME looking shield designs for me!! He went through how he did them on the XLBS weekender – for which you need to be Cult of Games member (costs a coffee a month -what you waiting for?) https://www.beastsofwar.com/featured/xlbs-digital-skills-for-flags/

 

Panzer Kaput had also knocked something up for me when he saw I was looking for the CoG logo – they are AMAZING, but I thought they might suit an early  imperial army better so am saving them for another day.

 

All bow to Lloyd the creator of shields! All bow to Lloyd the creator of shields!

The Auxilia arrive (the fun of transfers)

I tested the size of the transfers and they just need printing at 105% size to fit well.

I then got into making my own transfers  – this works well if you know what your doing.

I didn’t.

I thought if I followed the instructions that came with the transfer paper it would work.

Nope!

Mistakes to avoid:

  1. Don’t assume the ink will dry. It  doesn’t seem to – use a hair drier.
  2. Don’t assume it will now work. It doesn’t – the ink will float of the paper as soon as you wet it! The cultists came to the rescue telling me to put 3 coats of varnish onto the transfers..

So dry the ink with a hair drier and then 3 layers of varnish ensuring each layer cures properly (30 mins drying time).

Then I got it to work!

 

The Auxilia (and making your own transfers with Lloyd's help!)

I used some Wyldwood contrast to turn the edge of the shields wood brown as I didn’t like the yellow that I had used and it didn’t match in with the grime that Lloyd had created for the shields.

This worked OK and let me put a heavier amount of colour at the bottom of the shield than at the top. An interesting side effect meant the contrast sometimes got sucked under the transfer by capillary action. It looks quite interesting – like damage or wear to the shields so I left it. (However I think letting the transfers dry longer would be better!)

I wanted more control over the paint on the edge of the shields so used my wet pallet and graded the shade of brown on the shields from dark at the bottom to light at the top. Again some of the paint got sucked under the transfers, but again it looked OK luckily.

Finished! Finished!

And with the legions…

Finishing Legions I, II, III, IV

Tutoring 9
Skill 9
Idea 9
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The Command Group

Just need to add the command group and then my first four Legions are raised!

I enjoyed doing these guys! They were basically the same as the Infantry but with the following:

  • Camo Green for trousers
  • Brass Scorpion followed by Nazdreg Yellow for the trumpet 
  • Nazdreg Yellow for cloth edging on both the banner and the cloak
  • Leviadon Blue for the main part of the cloak
  • Retributor Armour and then Nazdreg Yellow for the eagle
  • Gore-grunta Fur for the fur.

I put a little nod to the Cult of Games and OTT in here too – more on that in the next entry.

The command group- (can you spot my nod to OTT?)The command group- (can you spot my nod to OTT?)

Finished!

A spray of matt varnish (I had a citadel can to hand) and done!

Finishing Legions I, II, III, IV

Forming Legions I, II, III and IV

Tutoring 8
Skill 8
Idea 8
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Shields

Having tested out the paint scheme I turned my attention to the shields.

After looking at other examples on the web and a bit of searching on forums I was sure that Little Big man Studios was the place to turn to. I read that their designs for Khurrasan minis works with Lurkio minis form which my Plastic Soldier Company minis are copied from, so i tried that. 

 https://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/product-category/15mm-transfers/khurrasan-miniatures/late-roman-khurrasan-miniatures/

It turned out well! 

Forming Legions I, II, III and IV

Batch painting

After the testing this is the plan: 

  • Wraithbone base coat. 
  • Apothocary White for tunics 
  • Terradon Turquoise or Fleshers Tearers Red  for trousers (to add a bit of variety)
  • Terradon Turquoise for any cloth caps
  • Blood Angels Red for the  archers cloak
  • Flesh Tearers Red for other cloth or head crests on Infantry
  • Snakebite Leather for leather
  • Wyldwood for the wood parts of weapons
  • Darkoath Flesh for the skin
  • Leadbelcher with Basilicanum Grey over the top for any metal on weapons and armour
  • Iyanden Yellow for the fletching on the arrows

Batch painting with contrasts is fine, just remember to use light coloured contrasts first as the darker ones will go over them fine if you mess up a bit. And give everything 30 mins to dry (not a problem when you have a lot of minis to get through – by the time I got back to the first mini it was dry). 

Legions start to formLegions start to form

Basing

Next on the to do list is basing.

The materials:

I painted all the bases with Zandri Dust before just planning out which men would go on which bases (to make sure each base had a mix of poses) with in the confines of my army plan (see the first project entry). 

Having superglued the men to the bases I then painted the integral bases on the minis Zandri Dust too. 

Next steps are easy – cover  base in PVA glue and submerge in the ready base mix and then add a few tuffs (I found the adhesive on the tuffs wasn’t strong enough – they needed a dab of PVA to keep them stuck down). 

Send forth the legions! (Well, one or two men at least...)

Tutoring 8
Skill 9
Idea 9
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Having never painted 15mm minis before I set about using the @Warzan method of using contrast, but before we get to that I had to clean up the Plastic Soldier Company ‘Ultra-Cast’ minis.

Cleaned up some infantry with a craft knife with a fresh blade. The plastic is soft and it is easy enough to cut off the mould lines but I found it quite fiddly and time consuming… I did try to file them, but I found the plastic didn’t like that idea very much…

I then undercoated a couple with some citadel Wraithbone spray and choose two to do a bit of test on.

The chosen two - an armoured infantry man and an archer. The chosen two - an armoured infantry man and an archer.

I had no idea what colour Roman Infantry would have been back in the late imperial time (lets say 350AD), so googled and asked around and came across various ideas.

I have since stuck a few things in here: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/stuartpgriffiths/late-imperial-romans/

I decided to go with white tunics,  some sort of grey/green coloured trousers and cloth caps and a red cloak and using browns for any leather or wood.

I used some contrasts from citadel:
Apothocary White
Gryph-charger Grey for trousers
Blood Angels Red for the cloak
Snakebite Leather for leather
Wyldwood for the bow
Darkoath Flesh for the skin

I used Lead Belcher for the mail (the plan being to put Basilicanum contrast over that).

 

I did quite like the white – I thought that worked well, but I wasn’t happy with how light the trousers/cap on the archer were, and didn’t like the leather on the infantry men’s trousers. .

I have no idea why I put red on the dart the infantryman is holding – that would need to be brown next time!

I looked for a stronger colour for the trousers and settled on Terradon Turquoise for the trousers/ cloth caps – I liked this much more than the Gryph-charger Grey.

Stronger colour on the trousersStronger colour on the trousers

I wanted some red for trousers or other bits of cloth on the infantry but thought the Blood Angels Red  I had used for the cloaks would be too bright so decided to Flesh Tearers Red (which is a wonderful colour – I had not used it before.)

So went again on some infantry finishing the armour with some Basilicanum Grey.

I noticed a few small areas of Wraithbone showing (contrast can be hard to get in the exact right place sometimes…). I had seen that fellow CoG Torros used a 1:1 mix of Agrax Earthshade and Lahmian Medium to wash his minis that arrived at the same time as mine. So I copied that and washed the whole mini – I was rather happy with the outcome.

Next – some batch painting and ordering of shield transfers.

Finished testing!Finished testing!

Getting Started - what's in the box and what army can I build out of it?

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Skill 5
Idea 6
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The plastic!

What’s in the box?

Well a lot of plastic.

Plastic crackPlastic crack

In the box you get:
2 x mounted Consuls (single pose)
2 x mounted Generals (single pose)
8 x Cataphracts (assorted mix of 2 poses)
12 x Equites Alares (assorted mix of poses on armoured and unarmoured horses)
8 x Equites Sagitarri (assorted mix of poses)
24 x Armoured infantry (assorted mix of poses; includes 3 command miniatures)
24 x Unarmoured infantry (assorted mix of poses; includes 3 command miniatures)
16 x Archers (single pose)

https://www.theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/product/mortem-et-gloriam-late-imperial-roman-meg-pacto-starter-army/

I got a couple extra infantry (2 armoured and 2 un- armoured) more so that’s nice.

About 10 % of the box was miscast, some worse than others, but the company replaced them with in 2 days of me contacting them – I was impressed with their response.

The Army List

The Army Lists for MeG are all free online along with a lot of pre built lists.

https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/meg/army-lists/

The author of the game put out some army lists to use with the Pacto box, but I thought I’d have a go at my own based on the pre-exisiting list, but aiming to get the maximum amount of use out of all the minis  in the Pacto box.

 

The list I am buildingThe list I am building

I’ve added the number of men I need for each base of the Tactical Unit Group (TuGs). TuGs are one of two types of unit for the game, there are also Skirmish Unit Groups (SuGs), you can only win by defeating your enemies TuGs.

Each of the TuGs and SuGs in my list have 2 bases each as this is a Pacto list. (Pacto is the same as the larger maximus game, which I’ll work up to, but uses fewer minis and bases).

The Legionnaire TuGs have two bases each. One base of the TuG has three  infantry on it and one base has 4 men on it. In game this represents the fact the Legionnaires can be in close or loose formation (if they are in close formation you put the base with 4 men at the front, it they are in loose formation you put the base with 3 men at the front). Both bases have one archer to represent ‘integral shooters’,  hopefully they’ll put the bow away and grab a sword before they get into melee!

I plan to use armoured infantry as much as possible for the legionaries,  but using some unarmoured ones to keep some armoured men aside to accompany the generals and consuls.

The Auxilia are basically the same as the Legionnaires but without the archers, and I plan  to use the unarmoured infantry for these TuGs.

We have some Equites Catafractarii  (Fully armoured calvary) with 1 base per TuG and 4 calvary per base (these maybe a bit brittle in game so will need to choose their moment carefully!). We also have normal Equites (calvary) with 2 bases per TuG and 3 calvary per base.

The skirmishers start with 2 SuGs or Equites Sagittarii (mounted archers) with 2 bases per SuG and 2 mounted archers per base. Finally we have a couple of SuGs of Archers with 2 bases per SuG and 2 archers per base (just to use the last few minis in the box really).

Now to get started  on the infantry !