Weekender XLBS: What Can You Do When Your Game Dies?
October 8, 2017 by warzan
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Hey guys!
All I can say to start things out is thank you. Thank you. Thank you. THANK YOU!!! The Halo Tabletop community has gotten a little too accustomed to bad news lately, so whenever you started reading my (digital) letter ‘on air’ Warren, I got goosebumps! It’s a real breath of fresh air to get a bone tossed our way; and an absolute treat to hear opinions on our games’ predicament from people in the industry whom I respect (no, really!). 😀
Thank you Warren for focusing the discussion on the tough questions Ground Command and Fleet Battles face (hasn’t been around a long time, protected IP, etc.). This is all uncharted territory for me, so any and all help is much appreciated, and you all contributing this energy and thought to helping me out is just very, very kind (Feel that warmth? Yup, that’s meh heart…).
And you were right on the money from the start Az – having a central hub for communication is key. Thankfully we’ve established a good hub on Facebook for both Ground Command and Fleet Battles, respectively. Facebook’s proliferation has provided good exposure, and we’re reaching existing players (and finding new ones) from all over to let them know the community is interested in keeping things going.
Community feedback will be kind of our rubber approval stamp for most things. When I first starting digging into this, I wanted that to be central to how things are done (Facebook’s polling tool is great for this, btw).
Next, an aspirational project is a great idea! And you got it Ben – before the Covenant war, the UNSC were fighting insurrectionists left and right. Your idea of a Insurrectionists vs. UNSC prequel scenario is awesome btw… something I might pitch to our little group to chew on. ; ) Even better is that the insurrectionists start to make a return, so to speak, after the fall of the Covenant. So post-war scenarios would also stick to the Canon. :{)} (That’s a beard emoticon, btw Ben. As a fellow beardsman, I grant this to you to use as you see fit!)
Your idea of contacting Microsoft directly, Warren, is actually kinda brilliant. We’ve made connections with people in MS and 343 Industries (the MS studio currently developing Halo) during past tabletop conventions, and I’m wondering if that might also be a good place to start along with the routes you mentioned…
Oh and Justin, please let me know if that Beasts of War Orphanage ever takes off… I could be your first ‘burden of the state’. 😀 😀 😀
As for getting games into the virtual space – I definitely see the value in it. I think I might ask the community who among us might be a good lead for something like that. I personally don’t have much experience with Vassal or Tabletop Simulator, but I do I know HFB was at least in TS at on time; so hopefully this might be easier to get off the ground and going than other efforts.
Finally, you’re right; events are the lifeblood of a community like this. Hopefully with some more work and collaboration we might be able to forge past Adepticon and into more conventions and the like.
Well, that about wraps up my initial thoughts from this excellent segment. Again – Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!! Thank you BoW team and community!!! Please send any more feedback (and good wishes, we may need em!) my way. 😀
Sincerely,
Grand Marshal (Vinnie)
I would suggest setting up an independent forum. Platforms like facebook, twitter, etc, require that players are willing to use them, which not everyone is. Also, if you are using a platform then at any moment that platform’s policies can change in such a way as to ( inadvertantly or not ) be detrimental to your purpose in using the platform ( as many youtube content producers have recently found out ). I have found independent forums to be an anchor, and something of a repository for Android Netrunner and Warhammer Fantasy RolePlay ( WFRP ). I’ve seen some of the subforums appear to be dead for months on the WFRP i frequent, only for it to spring to life when out of the blue someone asks a question or posts some new work they’ve made.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ve given some thought to that. Would you by chance happen to know how I could start a forum of my own?
A lot of games use http://www.Yuku.com for their games forum . They are a bit advert heavy but as far as I know free and it would get you started.
Once started I would a post a notice on The miniatures page. http://www.theminiaturespage.com in their sci-fi section. The site isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but a lot of people do look at it and would probably get you the widest free coverage for wargamers
Thanks torros!!! I’ll keep that in mind when the group discusses this. : D
I don’t have any experience running a forum, only using them. I can say that my favourite forum format is the one that the ‘stimhack’ forum uses ( https://forum.stimhack.com/ ). I think it’s open source, though i can’t see what on the forum led me to think so. Maybe you can ask them if you’re interested in using that format.
@warzan think you have patience of Saint with 3d printer……think there would be a printer shaped hole in the window!
Only thing that may have tempered it is the 500+ squid.
How to keep a game alive? Add dinosaurs, problem solved.
Painting tutorial from Warzan – YES please – plus great idea – competition – same model painted by each member of Beasts of War team – and the community to judge best – oh and best video of how to they painted the mini as well… 🙂
Think about games that died, and example that comes to mind was Mongooses ‘Starship Troopers; massive launch, tons of stuff brought out, thought the moulding on the no plastic left a lot to be desired, Then Matt Sprang had the idea of changing it to pre-painted, so nothing came out, support died, and gues what I’ve got 3 boxes of the stuff, Butgs were done put MI were a pain to build so other than a handful never finished.
Bright side of it is the bugs have been used in other games, and will become proxy Tyranids in 8th edition Warhamster, fighting my Raven Guard with proxy Adeptus Mechcanus (my Hammers Slammer , East Riding Constabulary) Cadians and proxy Catchacans (Mallets Manglers of same game)
It has just occurred to me. You sceptics have forgotten about the most famous Ancient Dinosaur – the rhino-saurus…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BYxjlRmn1k
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