on page 109 of the BFB it says you take line of sight from “the chosen firing point (i.e its muzzle or crossbar, in the same way as for its range) this means my screaming skull catapult can easy just sit behind a unit of guys a shoot normaly over the top on them but i get hard cover if it is shot back xD

I think you got it wrong Darell… The guy on the doom diver IS the stone.

While you mentioned some of the benefits that stone throwers received you forgot to mention the fact that the Strength of the hits has changed. Only one model directly under the center hole takes the Str. 9 wound while all others under the template take Str.3 wound. This makes surviving a stone thrower hit much easier that in previous editions.

played my first game with skaven i bought from IoB with a friend and tried out of the stuff in there, first fire i did with the poisoned mortar team got me a misfire and destroyed myself, luckily no other units were close then…good times.
Gotta love skaven 🙂

As has been said, their strength has changed and no longer ignore armour saves. Also, all templates (including stone throwers) hit any model even partially touching it, making them even more deadly (despite the lowered strength and no longer ignoring armour saves), ESPECIALLY against horde units (of which people are more inclined to take).

Stone thrower versus Skaven? Lots of squashed rats 😀 LOTS of 4+ to wound, with fairly minimal armour saves anyway and high chances of the scatter simply hitting another huge block.

I think I´m doing it wrong with my Doom Diver. I use the small template to see if it hits anything and then roll D6 hits (after redirecting the whole template by D3 if necessary). I know in the old 7th edition one didn’t use the template but is it so even in 8th? No one I’ve played against has said anything different but I’m starting to think I’m doing it wrong?