Thoughts on Warlord's German Veteran Infantry figures

[limburger 22079xp 0]

Maybe a bit of scale creep with the new designs ?
It’s not easy to maintain same look & feel when you’re using distance instead of scale 😉

I think someone said they’re using Wargames Atlantic now for their new plastic infantry (vehicles are Italeri designs I think) and have used a different artist / company for the ‘old’ sprues, which may explain the tiny differences.

[a27cromwell 3212xp 0]

They probably have different sculptors for each set ( could be AI ) some equipment ie: the MG ammo drum carrier is a different size in the new Veteran set compared to the Winter German set . And IRC  the 2 inch mortar ammo case is different as well in the Desert Rats box versus the newer Brits box .

The WA figures are of  a nonheroic body  style , clothing details aren’t crisp and some of the gear ( pistols/ knives ) being oversized  and other bits ( rifles ) under  scale IMO . I have at least a sprue of each WW1 & WW2 sets for kit bashing . The heads are flat at the neck to fit the WA body so BA heads need surgery to fit .  The 0200 game figures  ( WA made them ) are of the same style , I will  probably build them out of the box ( boring ) and just use them for that game .

[jamescutts]

I generally like the new Veteran German Infantry set, as others have pointed out a generally useful universal German sprue for most of the war. I’d agree the included wall has influenced it perhaps a bit too much, in some ways its a Starlingrad German set. Otherwise though great choice of options, very crisp mouldings.

As for any suggestion Warlord sculpts are using AI, categorically not the case at all. The studio team has a small but dedicated and prolific set of sculptors, the Verteran German Infantry are sculpt by Wojciech (whos also done the upcoming Russians much to his dislike being Polish, there’s apparently some hints of this in the sculpting) they are very much sculpted and they have said as much in that commando comic book heroic style. I think its a style some love and others hate, personally I’m ambivalent, if i enjoy the building and painting process thats the main thing for me.

I was never really a fan of the older Warlord sets with seperate arms and weapons, to me they where just a bit too fiddly to assemble, however I very much agree they are amazing for kitbashing, and still do pick up spues of them now and again (except the british).

Personally for 28mm I’m finding I really like this style for Bolt Action, I’ve a load of the awesome Paul Hicks Empress metals, those are by far the gold standard for me, but I love these plastic kits, their fun, kitbashable, and cheap enough i dont mind experimenting with them.

I think if your after late war German Grenadiers then the new Victrix plastics are probably by a long way the best plastics for that, but there a limited range and sadly with the passing of the sculptor possibly going to stay that way?

The Perrys for WWII i have a love hate relationship with, there great value (though now £28 RRP) lots of options on the sprues and the accurate in sculpting. However there very specific to a single theatre don’t fit in that well with a lot of other stuff, and their metals which are great sculpts generally are not the best castings, often requiring a lot of cleanup.

Wargames Atlantic I want to love, because they do great stuff, but anything with a firearm in the set to me just looks comically awkward in posing, especailly when it comes the firing etc with how the arms place, they also tend i find the be not quite a flexible as they first look. There some weird mix of trying to get the anatomy and proportions right but posing in a comic book style. I do like their Partisans kit though, mainly as nobody else does it!

I will admit though back to the OP that I just didn’t find myself that enthused building the Veterns, but I put this down to boredom of yet more Germans that look pretty normal vs the DAK or winter FJ sets because they are good sculpts (style aside) and very good crisp moulds.

 

• This reply was modified 2 months ago by jamescutts.

[grantinvanman 5843xp 0]

I’ll stand by what I said before: Wotjek is a poopy sculptor. Gurning faces, oversized hands, terrible poses. The Hicks ranges that Warlord bought they destroyed. Ruined.

 

[piers 25497xp 2]

So glad I use 20mm for WW2… so dont have to worry about these things! 😉

[grantinvanman 5843xp 1]

@piers AB is truly the platinum standard…

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