[unofficial weekender] Paintpens!

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First time visitor to OTT? Then please introduce yourself in the New Member Thread and look around in the Project System. Then come back and read on…

https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/introduce-yourselves-new-member-thread/

https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/

Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.

First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.

You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.

If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.

A few other things to note: NO RELIGION & NO POLITICS! Glasgow pub rules are in effect. If you need to make a better point then it is fine, but don’t take the piss. And always keep it civil. This includes no philosophy, no home computer culture wars.

Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.

Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)

And don’t forget the highlights of the weekend: The Weekender on Friday and XLBS on Sunday. And the little show that is The Hobby Hangout over at twitch.tv

If you fancy to see some nice WIP pictures go to the WAYPN thread https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/what-are-you-painting-now-2025-edition/

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Question of the week (courtesy of @blinky465) :

• Anyone had any success with markers?

And now back to the show.

[sundancer 43733xp 0]

Pledge: “do stuff”. I really am slacking. Need a “lake” for the Frostgrave game on the 4th September.

Answer; Haven’t tried yet. I am tempted to grab the Army Painter ones once they appear in my FLGS. So far Army Painter stuff hasn’t let me down really. So here is hoping they work well?

Music:

[limburger 22088xp 0]

The paint markers do appear to be interesting.
I’ve seen similar stuff in a dedicated art-shop.

Two things stand out as potential negatives :

– tip is too large for the kind of minis we use

– no refill ?

What’s the point of replacing the tips when you can’t refill the pen itself ?

[a27cromwell 3212xp 2]

I picked up a half dozen of the AK Playmarkers ,Black , White , Wood , Leather , Steel & a German Camo Red Brown. I’ve used them on 28mm troops to paint belts and straps . Used the wood & steel on a few 28mm  rifles , the steel & black on a  PSC 15mm tank painting the track & rubber tires  with good result. IMO they work pretty good , just needs a little practice . Like most paints out there they end up drying a different shade than the color swatch on the store display , some lighter ,some darker . Base color they go over might have something to do with that , but I haven’t really experimented to find out . I had thought to use the white to “write” slogans on my 28mm Russian tanks and sign posts . But the white goes on thin and needs 2 – 3 coats , so letters get really messy . Further practice might help , but I just set them aside and used decals instead .

The AK Playmarker range has a bunch of D&D / Fantasy type 3 marker sets plus singles , AK also has a Real Color Military line which IRC only comes as singles .   You can get all 36 or 48 , can’t remember how many they make , in a box set if you want . In Canada singles cost about $5 , while 3 packs cost about $14 so you save a buck . As a mostly military modeler only the Steel / Wood / Leather 3 pack suited my needs as other sets were more Fantasy .

Are they useful , yes . Do I use them a lot , no .I mostly forget I’ve got them to tell the truth .

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I mostly forget I’ve got them to tell the truth

I feel that’s something that happens way to often in our hobby.  “Oh shiny, I need”. *buys* Weeks later “Oh shiny, I need!” *buys* And then come home to find out: already have it. Doh! XD Same with tools like the marker pens.

[pagan8th 13375xp 1]

Pledge of the week is get an adventure ready for Achtung Cthulhu tomorrow and it’s almost done. I’ll finish work on the second adventure next week hopefully.

I bought a pack of acrylic paint pens from amazon. Total of 68 of them of £16.99 in a case.

Pleasantly surprised by the results. They won’t replace paints completely, but they’ve done an adequate job on 0200 Hours and I’ve started Traitors Toll.

Anything that gets my mini to the table quicker is a good thing.

[grantinvanman 6657xp 1]

Pledge: finish the first block of Iyanden commission – the line is in sight!

Paint pens: I have about 25? or so, a mix of AK and some Gundam branded ones. The AK metallics are AMAZING. Liquid metal, mirror finish, work great. The rest? Various results. They will do broad areas, but don’t have the detail level for replacing a brush. I use them sometimes.

No music this week.

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Pledge:  Get that unit of Epic Celts done and get started on the next one.

Answer: At the risk of repeating myself, I’ve not tried any hobby specific ones. I did go through a phase of using very fine tipped permanent markers for adding lines and fine details but ultimately found brushes easier. Perhaps it is just down to practice but I find fine brush control easier than the hard tip of a pen on a 3D surface. I am looking forward to giving the Speedpaint markers a go when they come out. I’ll probably wait until I can get the fleshtone one and then just buy individual ones needed for a single force and try painting a whole army. Romans will probably be the easiest I think.

 

[limburger 22088xp 2]

If there ever was a hobby that would have good paint pens … Gunpla it is.

Or maybe even nail painting.

Got to look outside of our hobby to find the really neat stuff sometimes.

I totally forgot what I wanted to do today, but I did manage to install a new bathroom light … so there’s that.
No need to mention that I had planned to do this since forever and had bought the light weeks ago, but the job’s done now (after much cursing).

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I tried AK Real Colours for edge highlighting and was impressed with the coverage; less so the actual results I got with them! Maybe it’s a practice thing, but my lines weren’t consistent enough (at least compared to the finish I can get with a decent brush). I might come back to them every now and again – I’m tempted to get a brown/black and a metallic for drawing quick battle damage on armour.

I saw the Army Painter Speed Paint pens and tbh, they are ones I would avoid most.
Don’t get me wrong – I love speed paints (especially over a zenith white-on-black base).

But trying to use speed paints like regular paints gives pretty patchy/inconsistent results. I find that speed paints work best when you do as the original tagline says – give it one thick coat. Flood the model, let the paint find the recesses. Too little paint and they don’t behave like speed/contrast paints, they behave like really poor quality craft acrylics!
From what I’ve seen of pens, most users “colour in” with them (like felt-tipped pens) and that’s not how speed paints work – in fact, the video Gerry posted here just a few days ago highlights this very issue – painting the shade colours on the apron just didn’t look a) much fun to do and b) particularly good at the end of it.
Far better would be a slapchopped (or zenithal) base (with the contrast already present in the folds of the cloth) and slap on a nice thick coat of a single colour – let the speed paints behave like speed paints, instead of trying to “layer” with them, like regular acrylics.

@sundancer – what a great choice of music – my favourite band of all time! (I skipped work many a time in my youth the day after going to see them play live!). Have we had this one before?

(seeing D.A.D, Skin, Therapy? or Terrorvision on a double-bill with the Wildhearts was always an amazing night out!)

 

[blinky465 17178xp 3]

Weeks later “Oh shiny, I need!” *buys* And then come home to find out: already have it.

I surprise myself with how many individual contrast/speed paints I’ve done this with.
Also, if anyone needs any Retributor Armour, I’ve got enough to keep us all painting Utramarines trim ’til about 2029.

[zoidpinhead 12714xp 2]

I’ve got enough to keep us all painting Utramarines trim ’til about 2029.

😀  I had to stop buying individual paints on a whim when at the FLGS.  I’ve got a couple of gallons of Vallejo Bonewhite for exactly the same reason.

Pledge update:  I managed to finish the horses of the cavalry bases.  The harness takes ages – there is so much showing.  Metallic highlights will go on at the end but for now we have this:

Just the tiny fighting mens on top to go.

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Just the tiny fighting mens on top to go.

Just make them green ghosts like the undead from LotR XD

Monday. Where did the weekend go? And why did it leave us?

[danlee 22596xp 3]

Finished the eighth and final skin tones practice model. https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1912086/

 

 

Next up is all the models for the expansion of Aeon Trespass: Odyssey.

[limburger 22088xp 0]

*aarrrgh* I thought replacing an electrical outlet with a smart one would be easy.

It’s not. I found some horrible wiring. Did replace some of it with better connectors, but then I kind of f*cked it up by not putting all the wires in (it barely fit). So now I don’t have a functioning oven or electric lighter thingy for my gas stove.

I’m not sure if it is worth getting a qualified electrician for this one ‘simple’ thing, but then it can’t hurt to ask.

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