The Final Hobbit Movie Teaser Trailer Hits The Internet!
July 29, 2014 by brennon
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies has got it's teaser trailer, first shown at Comic-Con over the weekend just gone. You can check it out above and the new teaser poster below...
That's all very cool of course and I can't wait to see the film as while I think it's very much been adapted away from the books they have still been a very good set of Middle-Earth films. However, this does bring up a few interesting points for those of us looking at things from a wargaming point of view!
New miniatures! It looks like we'll see a wartorn Bilbo with his mithril coat on, a Thranduil with duel blades and coated in rather spiffing armour, armoured versions of the Company of Thorin, a whole new army of Elves and Dwarves, Dwarves riding rams into battle, a plastic set of Dol Guldur Orcs, and maybe even a resurgence of the War of the Ring rules to fit this new big epic battle scene.
There might be a lot more in there too but this is what I spotted. Did you see anything else?
Are you excited for the final film?
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With that wall of Elven archers all I can see is the new version of WotR.
They’ll make it look very pretty, we know that much at least.
Gutted this is potentially the last time we get to enjoy a new Middle Earth movie on the big screen. Unlikely we’ll ever see the Silmarillion. The use of CGI over practical effects has made The Hobbit far less immersive than LOTR in my opinion, but I’ve enjoyed them just the same and excited for this new entry.
That looked rather meh.
Am I the only person in the world who has been enjoying the Hobbit trilogy thus far? Sure, it’s not as good as LOTR but I think they’re still good films.
Btw, imagine the Thorin says “Sure, I’ll have peace.” The End.
I’ve enjoyed them more than LOTR 🙂
I have very much enjoyed the films yes. The first one was rather awesome, the second was better and I think the final film is going to be spot on. I think it’s the tonal shift towards the feeling of Lord of the Rings that will swing it.
Also the extended edition (of Unexpected Journey) is pretty neat and solved the problems I had with the film – I’m sure the extended edition of Desolation of Smaug will do the same.
BoW Ben
I’m enjoying them- they’re certainly no LotR but they’re still pretty good films and I love the world so I was always going to love them. 🙂
That said; Dwarf-Elf-Elf weird love triangle thingys? I hate those bits of the second film, I genuinely think if you cut out the 2 or so minutes of painful and unnecessary flirting going on with Kili then the film would feel much more like a proper LotR film tonally… Still not quite as good, but close.
Cannot wait! 😀
Sure, the hobbit movies has some issues, but I love them all the same^^
A little underwhelmed by that trailer – though I accept my expectations are pretty high.
Very excited for the wargaming possibilities. If GW don’t knock this one out of the park, someone should lose their job over it. Unless they already did, of course…
I really didn’t like the first movie. In Jackson’s mind all dwarves are comedy dwarves, his elves are more like Star Trek aliens than mythical beings and wizards ride in sleds pulled by rabbits. Hated it. Despite that I went to see the second movie hoping it would be better. It wasn’t.
To cap all of the ridiculous, gratuitous fights and the blatant fan service of giving legolas (one of my favourite characters in the books, my least favourite in the movies) a big part, Jackson then cuts the single best scene of that part of the book (the invisible Bilbo’s conversation with Smaug) and replaces it with a ludicrous fight involving a big wobbly gold statue! It was awful.
My only issue with the second film was when Smaug was covered in gold. There’s no chance for the characters to celebrate and draw the viewers. Sure, all the book readers knew he was coming back but those who didn’t would have got a kick if the gap had been longer than the two or so seconds.
As an aside, I remember watching scenes from the fellowship being played on a big screen in a nightclub that was behind the DJ. That was a weird experience for all but it did get me hooked (on the films and not drugs).
Biggest issue that I have with The Hobbit movies is that they took 400 page book and turned it into three over long movies with lot of padding. With LotR they had three 500 page books to adapt into movie trilogy and it worked. The Hobbit movies are more like train wreck because of those basing issues.
Bear in mind they have also drawn on the appendices as well for some of the movie. The whole section on Dol Guldur is not in The Hobbit but is a welcome addition to the plot as it’s all happening alongside the main quest for Erebor and shouldn’t really be ignored.
I think once again the key thing to remember is that this is an adaptation. It’s going to have some differences from the books – some sections omitted – some expanded – just like Lord of the Rings did. No one complains about it now but with Lord of the Rings there was uproar about a lot of the different parts of the book being changed and dialogue being passed around to different characters to fit in with the feel of the film. And now they are held up as sacred and loved. I mean, don’t get me started on Tom Bombadil and the discussion that raged around the Barrow-Wights not being included and the Hobbit’s meeting with him afterwards.
Peter Jackson, while not making the most accurate version of The Hobbit, has taken the book and adapted it to suit a modern film audience. I’m not one who has to be impressed by flashy action scenes and massive sweeping CGI sequences but I was pretty blown away by the work that they did when it comes to things like Goblin Town and the Barrel Chase sequence that was a welcome change of pace in the film which – to be fair from that point onwards is fairly slow until the mountain itself.
The book was a children’s story and so when people complain about the ‘comic’ nature of the Dwarves and how they are portrayed in the film I would have to say ‘yes, and?’. It’s not like they weren’t comical in the books. Bombur falls asleep and has to be carried around – they all have strangely coloured beards too!
The seriousness is pretty much nailed there too. Richard Armitage is a perfect Thorin in my mind and oozes foreboding and anger – the Battle of Azanulbizar is a pretty powerful set piece too and very much in keeping with the feeling of the Last Alliance battle against Sauron in Fellowship (which greatly omits the help of Gil-Galad if you want to talk about missing stuff! But was good anyway!)
While they added a lot to the film I feel it’s all been done in the ‘spirit’ of Tolkien. There’s no reason Legolas shouldn’t be in the movie for example. He is Thranduil’s son and therefore probably would have been around during this time. Same for Tauriel. Admittedly their story is pretty off the beaten track in terms of the book but if you’re going to introduce characters like Legolas and Tauriel into the mix then you can’t have them be a cheap cameo. You need them to stick around and become part of the narrative while not sacrificing the main story – and to my mind they didn’t sacrifice anything.
On the note of Bilbo and his conversation with Smaug I think the way that was handled was pretty good even if it wasn’t as the book dictates. That and the scene with Gollum from Unexpected Journey are two of my favourites and I think the dynamic between Bilbo and Smaug was pretty spot on.
A purist is never going to like the films – that’s pretty much agiven, and even the Tolkien estate isn’t that happy, well some of them at least, with the films and Jackson either – but as a lover of all things Middle-Earth I welcome the fact that the films were even made. They may have made changes in places but it’s to make the film watchable.
Think of it like the battle of Helm’s Deep. The Elves show up? Why…they don’t in the book. Because it showed a strengthening of good against Evil and humanised the Elves. Eomer is the one who rides down with Gandalf and not Erkenbrand Why? Because you can’t continue to shove in dozens of characters on screen because people end up forgetting about them and not caring. This way you built up Eomer as a key character and you felt that sense of ‘f**k yeah!’ when he rode in to save his kinsmen.
Essentially my standpoint is that the films are good films and decent adaptations of the source material made for a modern audience.
BoW Ben
I agree with some of what you’ve said Ben but totally disagree with other parts. I’m really not surprised that the Tolkien estate isn’t happy. I think Tolkien himself would have hated the Hobbit movies.
Yes, The Hobbit is a children’s book. It is charming and whimsical, has light hearted moments and moments of deep sadness and gravity. The films have lost all of this replacing it with mindless CGI spectacle, over the top action sequences and obvious, lowbrow attempts at comedy.
What is beautiful about the books is the characters and the wonderful dialogue, that is why they have stood the test of time. I see none of that in the films.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like The Lord of the Rings movies. They are not perfect, but I do like them. A lot in fact. The Hobbit movies on the other hand, I hate with a passion. If this is what making changes for a modern cinema audience means to Jackson, then he has a very low opinion of cinema audiences.
I don’t know Ben, I’m a bit of a Tolkien purist and I have loved what PJ has done with his adaptations of both Hobbit and LotR. I pretty much have the same standpoint in that the films are adaptations and I appreciate them for what they are. There are plenty of subtle touches in The Hobbit that give a nice nod to the tone of the children’s books as well for those that look for them.
Back to the topic of ‘potential’ last hurrah for GW on The Hobbit miniatures, Iron Mountain Dwarves riding Mountain Goats?..Hell yes please!
Boom.
The best part is Pippin’s song, rem(a)inder of a once exciting franchise.
I did enjoy the Hobbit films (the first more than the second which was badly cut) but only as generic, action-based fantasy movies. Might be, ten years are a long time to outgrow that hype about LotR, which was in its time new and fresh, and visually set the scene for so many fantasy productions ever since. Hence this second run feels somewhat outdated, the more since Peter Jackson so far has failed to add more than an overload of CGI and silly character twists. This third part doesn’t appear to be any different (a ram-drawn chariot sliding around on a frozen river – really?).
At least that’s the feeling of someone who’s seen LotR on the silver screen upon release and many, many and many times more at home since without ever getting bored. I can’t see me doing that in the case of the Hobbit. Although I will watch this third installment at some stage.
I look forward to it. There may be flaws but I can ignore them. It looks stunning.
No bewbs?
I’d actually quite like to see a War in the North – based film, you see the Easterlings at the end of the Two Towers and that’s it, why is it the dwarfs and the Mirkwood elves didn’t come south to assist in the defence of Minas Tirith? Because of a funking huge army of easterlings marching on Erebor! (spoilers 😛 )
Sure, the only direct continuity you’d get from the Hobbit to this new one would be some of the elves and the locations that star in the two trilogies, Galadriel, Thranduil and now, Tauriel (if she survives this new film of course!).
Destruction of Dol Guldur, the routing of the Easterlings, the Silvan elves departing same as their western cousins, the first steps into the Fourth Age!
Pretty much any excuse for some more Tolkien based awesomness haha
I suppose some Fourth Age flicks would be cool now you mention it @bigdave. 🙂
Personally I’d like to see something about The Last Alliance conflicts of the Second Age. Including War of the Elves and Sauron, forging the Rings of Power and the corruption and drowning of Numenor.
oooh, on that note, The Fall of Arnor…
Or a Rohan origins story born out of the destruction of Rhovanion…
Hopefully the battle at the end will be as good as the Minas Tirith battle.
Perhaps PJ will do the Silmarillion later would be good to see army’s of Dragon’s & Balrog’s.
I cannot wait! I love these movies. I can easily lose myself in them over the course of a rainy day. 🙂
This looks amazing. I will hold my hands up and say that when it was announced that the Hobbit was going to be three movies, my first reaction was “LotR Trilogy, yes, that works. The Hobbit trilogy… is this about movies desperately trying to milk the success of previous franchises and hope it works?”. How glad I am to be proved (in my opinion), wrong.
I think a trip to the IMax cinema in Bradford will be on the cards again… Well, I saw the first 2 in 3D, it would be rude not to see the third in 3D as well…..
Dwarf-Elf-Elf love triangles… The Lore of the Flings? 🙂
Nerdgasm, although hopefully this will be an improvement on the second film. The first was enjoyable and I could except the modifications to tell the wider story. The second film was also enjoyable but no longer felt Tolkienesque. Lets hope for a return to form in the third.
Also Dwarf ram riders, just saying
Not as exciting as LoTR IMO but I have still very much enjoyed the Hobbit movies.
I think @brennon summed things up very well in his post.
Personally would love to see the story of Numenor told properly, particularly to see Sauron in his ‘fair’ form.