Kabuki Prepare to Unwrap Their Christmas Present
September 5, 2014 by dracs
It seems that Kabuki Models are feeling very seasonal at present, as following up with the preview of the Halloween witch comes one for their special Christmas pin-up.
Kabuki are really teasing us with their sexy seasonal ladies at present. However, I do question this one's choice of attire considering that it will probably be the middle of winter when she gets to see the light of day. Somehow I don't think a ribbon and a santa hat will help much.
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Well that’s not a very good prezzie wee know what it is someone has stolen most of the wrapping’s every one will know what you will be getting their???
“However, I do question this one’s choice of attire considering that it will probably be the middle of winter when she gets to see the light of day.”
Because people are never inside during winter or sexy time? 😉
I like this lass(is it one or two s in ‘lass’?), well sculpted I think. It would be nice if there were female giant minis of this hotness, I would add one to my Ogre Kingdoms army in the blink of an eye.
Wow, she looks sexy! I love the playfull pose on top of the present.
And the atire is just perfect for an indoor romp at the fireplace.
Not my type.
I don’t generally like girls that fart on my Chrissie Pressies.
There are one or two exceptions
Mellifluous Betty for example.
She could toot “God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen” while juggling brussel sprouts and balancing a glass on egg nog on her noggin.
What a gal.
Thanks a lot, @chibi . Now I’ve got that song stuck in my head. 😀
well theres not much on her to unwrap
I was going to ask what this figure has to do with gaming, but I dread the replies that would solicite.
There is no avoiding saying this, the figure is pornographic and an overtly sexist commodification of women.
Gift wrapped, well she has a ribbon tied around her boobs, for the sexual gratification of the recipient of the “present”.
Seriously do we really need this stuff on BoW?
If people want to ogle at mini big boobs am sure there are plenty of sites that cater to such tastes.
Really? Why is a pin up mini sexist? Is a half naked mini ALWAYS sexist? Are half naked male minis sexist? If you’re so sensitive and PC just don’t look into these kinds of news on BoW. Meanwhile there are adults who can view these kinds of things without getting horny. It’s a great thematic mini.
How can you possibly not understand how this is not sexist?
Seriously. Again, this is pornography whether it is a miniature or not.
Think about what th…
you know what you are right. There is nothing wrong in seeing a woman as a possession to give to another to fuck and fornicate with. That is what women are for.
My bad. Carry on, as you were.
The whole sexism in gaming is a topic I believe the guys cover in the XLBS this weekend.
For myself, I can see it as a very sensitive topic. I studied feminist criticism at university, so I’m familiar with most of the arguments, both for and against.
Personally, I would say this isn’t necessarily sexist. It’s using sexuality, yes, but it is not sexualising her as a victim. By declaring any use of sexy imagery as sexist, we are in fact denying a large part of human existence. There was recent debate on the Spider-Woman cover art that I think summed up the argument rather well.
However, there is an issue, in gaming in particular, where this is all we see of women, thereby negating them as humans and individual characters. The other problem is that we quite often come across sculpts that sexualise women as victims, slave girl miniatures and harem girls for example are depressingly common.
As for why we still report on these on BoW. We are journalists and try to take a neutral stance when reporting these things. It’s hard to judge what is suitable and what isn’t for reporting, but if we were to discount things in such a manner, it would mean we’re judging what is best for you all to see.
My question is why this is relevant to a gaming site.
It is sexist. The content and objectification could not be more obvious.
Good grief they are even described as “pin up” girls.
This is nothing to do with the still dubious slave girl models.
The reaction is so disappointing. As with the question of racism, it is indicative of a society that pleasures itself in the way it demeans others.
It’s relevant because it’s a miniature, and it’s from Kabuki, a brand that does gaming minis. A lot of these pin-up models are released at these dates.
It doesn’t mean it’s not sexist.
“Gift wrapped, well she has a ribbon tied around her boobs, for the sexual gratification of the recipient of the “present”.
The issue that I see here is that from your perspective, which is fine, everyone is entitled to opinions, you are seeing her as being given to someone. I know it’s a mini, so comparing to real world is a bit weird, but lets consider real world. How about she is a woman, in full control of her sexuality and who she is with, is giving herself to someone. There is no indication from the model that she is doing so unwillingly or under duress. I fail to see how that is at any point sexist.
There is nothing more empowering than choosing who you give yourself to whether it be in mind or body.
Things that I could see as being a bit off would be being tied up etc, where there is an element of being against the persons will, like the slave girl models by GW that came with Asdrubael Vect (yet in context of the mini and background they were fine). As for equality, maybe Kabuki could do a Lonely Island style male model in the style of “Dick in a box”.
Personally I won’t be buying it, not out of protest, I just don’t do pin up models, my models are usually for gaming purposes only, so I see it as a waste of my limited gaming funds.
How about it is objectification of women.
Being used as a gift is nothing to do with empowerment
It is still a depiction of the commodification of a person.
Secondly, think about why there are “pin ups” and what they are for.
Ok, 1, would you have the same issue if it was a man?
2, who said she is being “used” as a gift. How do you know she is not offering herself, through her own decisions, to someone. You are instilling your own peeves and context on to a model.
3, Again, you are instilling your own perception on the model.
Yup, pin ups are there because sex sells. But you seem to have an awfully bad hang up about this mini. Do you see men flying off the handle if they see a hugely muscled barbarian model in a tiny loincloth? I expect not. Despite the fact that some people may argue that to a female viewer it may be skewing perception of what a “normal” man looks like, and could lead self image issues in young men. The same way photoshopping women in magazines does.
Can I ask if you think that paintings or sculptures of nudes are sexist and degrading? Art, and you can call this art, it is a sculpture despite it’s size, is there to invoke a response from the audience.
You see it as a woman being offered as a commodity, with the offering of sexual gratification for the person “unwrapping” them. I see it as a woman that is being kind and sexually adventurous, giving herself to someone as a token of her affection.
Is either of us wrong? No, because is not really a factual thing, it is literally there to be interpreted by all.
Nullius in verba…
I don’t think I’d be excited if it were a man. I am a gay man myself, and I WOULD like sexualization to happen to males as well, in the same way, and I don’t object to a little objectifying myself… but this is kind of extreme. And demeaning. I mean, she’s OBVIOUSLY the present.
well you really cant see her boobs , me ive got small hands and we all know if a womans boobs are to bigger than your hands shes trouble
Chill chibi, sex sells always has, try taking a more light harted look at life me old mucker its better for the ticker, its a saucy mini no more no less.
There you go man
Keep as cool as you can.
Face miles of piles of trials with smiles
It riles them to believe
That you perceive
The webs they weave
And keep on thinking free.
The Moody Blues
Don’t forget “always will” – Sex has always sold and it always will sell. I think when the number of women collecting and painting miniatures you will see sexualised male miniatures.
Why is my post moving up and down this thread?, Strange days indeed, John Lennon.
Objectification? Damn straight! Would I?! HELL YEAH!!
What you reckon @sarahthered28 ?? Hot or not?
Hot definitely, I have, nore see do I see a problem with this model, why are we doing this sexism thing again, we don’t do this over the half naked ripped guy models 🙂
” we don’t do this over the half naked ripped guy models”
Exactly! Thank you.
There are no half naked ripped guy models portrayed as objects or slaves, as far as I know… not sexualized that way anyway. Males, when sexualized, are in a position of power. Females (and this one especially) are genrally not. I have no objections when the lady is not disparaged…
In fact, could we PLEASE have males in the same kind of scenes in miniature ? I’d like that !
You might like it, but how many would they realistically sell? Is there a significant market for Male pin-up models? I’m not sure there is.
In fairness, how do you sexualize a bloke? A ripped barbarian standing in nothing but some furry pants with an axe on his shoulder with a hand on his hip is about as sexual as blokes get lol.
That is part of the issue, @deaddave. As @elromanozo points out, even where it could be argued that there is a potentially sexual or titillating component to a male sculpt, it is almost always played as a dominant, empowering depiction. The fierce barbarian warrior with an improbably large and heavy axe slung negligently across his shoulder paired with a ‘come and have a go if you think your life insurance policy is worth enough’ expression is not disempowered or objectified, even if he did leave his yurt this morning in nothing but his fur boxer shorts and hide boots. Even where the image is potentially sexual, a male character is almost invariably unambiguously powerful and in charge of the situation and his surroundings.
Female characters are rarely offered parity in this regard when envisioned in sexy sculpts, instead usually popping up as passive (if not actively degraded) sex objects that exist for the gratification of others, both the viewer that it seems to be assumed to be default male and often within the associated fictional setting. This is the case here, where the female character depicted is clearly being presented or is presenting herself to another, rather than demonstrating agency of her own.
Sexual does not automatically equal sexualised, and sexiness is not unavoidably sexist, but it is a difficult balance to get right, and largely excluding women from that calculus within the industry only makes the job harder.
She’s not being portrayed as a slave, she’s just being portrayed as seductive. But I think the Dark Eldar Pain Wracks just about count as half naked men portrayed as slaves.
Anyone familiar with my stance on this kind of mini will probabaly be able to predict what I am going to say – I am with @chibi on this. As Chibi points out, the image of a woman as a gift plays into existing tropes in society of the commodification and sexualisation of women. If this mini was a one off, it would be in rather bad taste but would not be societally toxic, but it isn’t a one off; within wargaming, grossly sexualised depictions of women with biologically improbable builds often in anatomically taxing if not impossible poses (the infamous ‘butt and boob’ twist springs to mind – a pose that would leave the world resounding to the sound of shattering vertebrae if women actually habitually did it) is more than merely the norm, but is rather dominant to the extent that it can often be hard to find examples of minis that don’t conform to sexist memes and design conventions in some regard of other. In that context, ‘pin up’ sculpts like this move from the territory of tasteless oddity to that of component in an openly misogynistic trend.
This point relates to @panzerkanzler‘s objection to Chibi’s analysis. When it comes to partially nude minis, context is vital, and when that context is one of the consistent sexualised depiction of women within the industry, then a largely naked female mini in a sexually suggestive pose must be treated differently than a hypothetical male equivalent (though you would be efry hard presed to find a trule equavalent male mini, which is part of the problem).
I would also suggest, with respect, that it is not for panzerkanzler to tell Chibi what to comment on. This is not a question of being thin skinned or easily offended. Sexist representations of women are a pervasive blight within our society – they contribute directly to a culture that can and does treat women very badly along multiple axes of potential oppression from restriction of access to abortion services to the prevalent vicitim blaming rape culture that foments an attitude where the first response many people have when hearing about an attempted or completed rape is to pontificate on what the rape survivor must have done to ‘ask for it’. This kind of thing it not simply a matter of purely detached aesthetics and personal preference – it all plays in to a cultural discourse about women and their place in society, one in which terrifying large numbers of people do not truly recognise the personhood of women at all, and really do see them as living sex toys and/or ambulatory incubators, and nothing more.
@jay188 feels that chibi needs to take a more light hearted look at this issue, but not everyone can afford to be lighthearted when dealing with a culture that is experiencing an exponential rise of what can only be called a twisted renaissance in misogyny, as can be seen by numerous cases of the online harrassment of women who express feminist opinions online with rape and death threats (just google Anita Sarkeesian and see the way she has been treated if you don’t believe me), not to mention the heinous and corretly entitled Republican war on women that is ongoing in the United States. Sexist minis are only a tiny part of the culture that spawns these horrors, but it is still a part of it, and that cannot be ignored. As wargamers, we have a vested interest in cleaning our own house.
@lotan2012 raises several objections to Chibi’s position, pointing out that you cannot determine the intent of the woman in question. While it is important to distiguish between self-chosen sexiness and imposed sexualisation, the point remains that this is a digital render of a planned sculpt – ‘she’ is fundamentally incapable of intentionality of any kind. The sculptors intent is what must be addressed, and here we run into the problem that it is very likely that the sculptor is a man (statsitically, probably a straight man) who is sculpting this image of a sexually idealised women (according to certain values of ideal womanhood) for the consumption of a wargaming community that is overwhelmingly male and straight. In that context, you have a sculpt of a woman created by and for men, and how that sculpt is conceptualised and executed speaks of an attitude toward women held by the sculptor, and – through his miniature acting as a mode of communication with wargamers – influencing the community’s attitude toward women. In this context, this very clearly a case of a sexualised image of a feminised object, not an image of a woman that is voluntarily choosing to present herself as sexy, or an image created by a woman, or more likely than not with any real imput from women, that expresses an aspect of female sexuality. This is a classic example of the male gaze.
lotan2012 also draws a parralel to the well known trope of the muscled barbarian wearing only a loin cloth, and asks whether this should also be seen in the same light as the subject of the OP, but this really misses the point that the two sculpts are not equivalent. This mini was clearly sculpted with at least the awareness that it might serve to titillate men. It is a representation of a straight male sex fantasy. The hypothetical muscle bound barbarian, however, is not intendted to titillate straight women or gay men in the same way. indeed, overly muscled men are not univeraly seen as sexually desireable within either group. Rather, the barbarian mini would be an expression of a male power fantasy, the flip side of the coin of the above mini’s function as an expression of a sex fantasy – it is still the male gaze at work. Another mini by and for straight men, with any titillating aspect being purely coincidental rather than being the clear focus as it is in the case of our be-ribboned friend.
lotan2012 also raises the qiestion of whether all female nudes are sexist, but again the critical issue is one of context. If the vast majority of artistic depictions of women were of nudes, and particularly nudes posed for sexualisation, then the answer would be yes – in that environment, the situation has become so toxic that further nudes simply compound an existing problem. Fortunately, the bulk of artistic depictions of women are not sexualised. A minority are nudes, but the majority of artistic nudes are not constructed to be sexualised nudes. The same cannot be said of the miniature industry, where the vast majority of female minis are sexualised, and the substantial fraction of partially or fully nude female minis are almost always sexualised nudes, and not infrequently deliberately degrading images of sexualised nudity, as can be seen from Brother Vinni’s victim girls range. Context cannot be ignored here – as the dose makes the poison, so the context makes an image or sculpt problematic.
Finally, lotan2012 argues that their interpretation that the mini depicts a woman freely offering herslef to another unrepresented character as a form of consensual sex play has equal validity with Chibi’s interpretation that it depicts objectification of a woman used as a gift. While lotan2012 is of course entitled to his or her interpretation, as noted above the imagined intentionaluty of an inanimate object or image is not relevant, and the intent of the artists cannot be absolutely determined (unless anyone here has funky mind reading powers). All we are left with is the context of the image and the existing course of dealing with how such images are received in the community. In that light, Chibi’s objectification scenario has by far the greater weight of supporting evidence of the two.
@drax mentioned the recent spiderwoman alternate cover controversy, and the problem there was not only with the weird anatomy and seemingly free floating head levitating in front of her body (seriously – look at it again; the impression that she doesn’t actually have a neck is impossible to ignore once you first notice it), but with the fact that the artists who created the image – Milo Manara – is a well kniow erotic illustrator in Europe, and he lifted the pose for the character directly from some of his other works that illustrate naked women disporting themselves in an unambiguously sexual context. An unusual chocie for Marvel to say the least, especuially when illustrating the cover of a comic series intended to attract more women to Marvel’s universe by countering the notion that all their female characters really amount to is sexualsied window dressing. This debate is culture wide. It is no surprise that it also impacts wargaming.
Several posters have argued that sex sells, as if this explains and excuses all. The problem with this is that ‘sex’ doesn’t exist as this seperate entity divided from individual people. Sex is a social concept that ultimately finds expression through living, breathing human beings in a society that is still not even close to gender equal – a still deeply patriarchal culture that is riven with often iniquitous power dynamics and gradients, pretty much all of which work to disadvantage and disenfranchise women. Taking this into account, exploiting sex because it is financially expedient is not an ethically neutral act. Unless done with the greatest care, it can and does indirectly harm real people. And all this before we even address issues of society’s existing problematic attitudes toward sexuality and gender identity. As much as society stomps with repugnant glee on cissexual and heterosexual women, its treatment of lesbians and transwomen is even worse.
This whole area is a powder keg with a vast potential to cause harm, and a sculpt like this amounts to just another privilege-blind bloke running around with a lit match in hand.
Apologies for the lengthy post.
“The sculptors intent is what must be addressed, and here we run into the problem that it is very likely that the sculptor is a man (statsitically, probably a straight man) who is sculpting this image of a sexually idealised women (according to certain values of ideal womanhood) for the consumption of a wargaming community that is overwhelmingly male and straight. In that context, you have a sculpt of a woman created by and for men”
And therein lies the issue. The market is predominantly straight and male and therefore when making sexy/pin-up models they are going to cater for the largest market share. Can Kabuki afford to design, sculpt and produce a male pin-up miniature that would in all likelihood only sell only a fraction of the number of any given female pin-up? I very much doubt it. I’m not saying you have to like or enjoy pin-up sculpts or even artwork – it’s you’re prerogative to take whatever view of them you like but it’s also other people’s prerogative to make the same decision. Some people do like them and who are we to tell them otherwise? Who has the right to enforce a set of likes and dislikes on another person?
Personally I have no issue with sexual imagery of either sex, gratuitous or otherwise but I don’t buy pin-up models because I have no real use for them and if I’m honest they don’t appeal to my hobby interests. Clearly other people do buy them and there is a market for them, given the number of them that have been produced recently and if those things are to someone else’s tastes, then as I said earlier, who are any of us to tell them otherwise? As long as this market exists, companies like Kabuki and Kingdom Death will undoubtedly continue sculpting and selling pin-up miniatures. As long as the potential market for Male Pin-up sculpts remains tiny, miniatures fitting that bill won’t appear.
I actually showed this model to my wife whilst discussing this. She agreed with me, there is nothing overtly sexist about the model. She actually asked if it was scultped by a man or a woman, which is a fair point. Is a model sculpted to be “eye candy” that is sculpted by a woman sexist? Is it objectifying, or is it a woman celebrating sexuality? To complain that it is sexy is to pretty much state that sex is wrong. There is nothing wrong with being sexy. Trust me, I know! 😛
My wife was a fine art student, and she did give her opinion on the actual model though. She hated it, she thinks its a bad sculpt. Not because of the topic, but because of the actual scaling and proportion of the woman. For example, if you look at the models chest, her boobs are space norks (which is great for sci-fi pulp pin up), they are overly huge, and must be installed with anti grav devices. Second, she pointed out the rib cage. She has a tiny waist, but her rips are so pushed out and exaggerated (to increase focus on the bust) that if you saw a woman like this in real life she would look like she had some kind of musculo-skeletal deformity.
She said, decrease the torso thickness, make the boobs a tad smaller and more natural looking and it would be great. Notice at no point in that breakdown of the model did she say that it was sexist.
She also made a great point about santa outfits. Feminists may scream that “sexy santa” outfits objectify women, but she said she gets them because she thinks she looks hot and is proud of her huge boobs, she would wear one for her, not because she wants men to think she is sexy and objectify her, she would NOT wear a mans santa suit, because it would make her feel stupid and frumpy. The onus of finding a model to be sexist or objectifying is on us and our individual mentality. If you cannot seperate scantily clad or naked women from desire, you have an issue. If it was the case that scantily clad or naked women were immediately sex objects, then every heterosexual male plastic surgeon working on breast implants would be working with a chubby all day.
Some people just don’t like what they couldn’t get unless they paid for it…
Was that implying I don’t like the mini because I couldn’t get a woman like that in real life without paying? If it was, that is childish at best, if not, I apologise for misunderstanding!
Noooo, not at all, I was agreeing with you
In that case my apologies! 😛
Romain doesn’t like it, and I doubt he would be inclined to pay for a professional lady to re-enact this scene in any case. Perhaps it is best to avoid this kind of stereotyping of other people’s intent. Why assume bad faith on the part of people concerned over sexism? why not simply accept that they have a legitimate concern earnestly held until credible evidence emerges to indicate otherwise?
My original comment still languishes in moderation? I didn’t even do the Monty Python sketch bit… 🙁
I suppose it was probably a bit long, Curse my involuntary loquaciousness.
Short version; I agree with Chibi. This sculpt is problematic in its depiction of women since it plays into the male gaze and existing societal misogyny in a way that a notionally equivalent male mini (the loincloth wearing barbarian trope) does not play into any hypothetical widespread societal misandry, actually finctioning as a male power fantasy, complementary in mindset and effect to this mini that evokes a male sex fantasy – it is all by and for straight men. That narrow, exclusionary focus will ultimately be deliterious to the wargaming hobby.
And not just deleterious to the hobby, but rather more importantly actively unethical within our still very gender biased society. Women get enough trouble heaped on their heads as it is. Micro aggressions like this just remind them that, to some people, they will always be a pair of tits and a set of hips first, and a person second.
I also don’t know why so many people get so upset(and comment about it) about nude semi-nude minis to begin with yet are more than happy to see minis with body parts being cut off or weapons being stuck in. same on youtube why do people need to dislike videos if you don’t like it don’t watch the fecking thing
I don’t know either. I’m fine with nudes. It’s not the nudity that’s the problem here…