Renegade Knight reprise
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About the Project
With our normal Rules reader the epic Kevin still suffering with the effects of his Pancreatus, Decided to play the little game in the GW Renegade knights box, and it was a blast so got thinking.
Related Game: Warhammer 40,000
Related Company: Games Workshop
Related Genre: Science Fiction
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Move 2 it heats up
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- Well after choosing activation for Move two and King Tyrrol had cleared off all the dead pigeons of his hood, they continued.
Pete decided to open with standard shots for his opening gambit with all his Kights and Keiths despite his disadvantage went for aimed shots, so nobody moved and they just slugged it out.
As he was completing the quicker action Pete went 1st and his shooting was only marginally better in that occasionally he hit, but then failed to get past Kieth’s shields only succeeding with stubber for one damage on Kieths left hand Warglaive.. Keith then returned fire, again concentrating on Pete’s left Helverin and took out the right cannon and the head plus chewing up all but one point on another leg section.
Kieth having used all his activation’s with the aimed shot sat whilst Pete revealed his hand, 3 snap shots, and well only did marginally better than with the standard for hitting but even worse for penetrating.
End of move 2 and so far despite it was not going well for the King!
3rd Battle Report set up and Move 1
Well here we are chaps my 1st Battle Report with the addition of Helverins to the line up.
As for a Battle Name I’ll go with a comment from a local Pigeon !
‘Ere I’d like a word with you!
A title that should become more apparent later.
The previous 2 games really ended before anything happened , plus I’d been busy umpiring an running rules to record much, by the latter was happily done by the Returning hero ‘Kevin’.
This time we decided to dispense with scenarios other than they were to beat the living snot out of each other!
Our victim…err players were club member Pete and Keith
Pete had King Tyrrols Knight (gallant I think) and two Armiger Helverins
Kieth had a Knight Crusader with two Wargalves
This I hoped would balance long and melee wpns int their forces , wpn breakdown below, which also give my best guess on the Armiger wpn conversions for Renegade.
Keiths killers
Armiger Warglave 1
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Thermal Spear half range
|
7.5
” |
-2 | D6 | |
| Thermal Spear max | 15” | -1 | D3 | |
| Melta gun | 12” | -1 | 1 | |
| Reaper chain cleaver strike
|
3” | -2 | 2 | |
| Reaper chain cleaver Sweep
|
“ | -1 | 1 | |
Armiger Warglave 2
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Thermal Spear half range | 7.5
” |
-2 | D6 | |
| Thermal Spear max | 15” | -1 | D3 | |
| Hvy Stubber | 18” | 0 | 1 | |
| Reaper chain cleaver strike
|
3” | -2 | 2 | |
| Reaper chain cleaver Sweep
|
“ | -1 | 1 | |
Knight Crusader
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Rapid Fire Battle Cannon | 26 | -1 | 3 | |
| Avenger Gattling Cannon
|
20 | 0 | D6 | |
| Twin Icaurus autocannon
|
30 | 0 | 2 | |
| Heavy Stubber | 18 | 0 | 1 | |
| Heavy Stubber | 18 | 0 | 1 | |
| Heavy Flamer | 10 | 0 | D3 | |
Petes Perils
Armiger Helverin 1
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Armiger Auto Cannon LA | 30 | 0 | D2 | |
| Armiger Auto Cannon RA | 30 | 0 | D2 | |
| Melta gun Carapace | 12 | -1 | 1 | |
Armiger Helverin 2
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Armiger Auto Cannon LA | 30 | 0 | D2 | |
| Armiger Auto Cannon RA | 30 | 0 | D2 | |
| Heavy stubber Carapace | 18 | 0 | 1 | |
Armiger Warglave
Knight Crusader
| Weapons | ||||
| Wpn | Range | AP | Damage | |
| Avenger Gattling Cannon
LA |
20 | 0 | D6 | |
| Ironstorm missile pod carapace | 36 | 0 | D3 | |
| Meltagun RT | 12 | -1 | 1 | |
| Heavy Stubber LA | 18 | 0 | 1 | |
| Heavy Flamer LA | 10 | 0 | D3 | |
| Thunderstrike Gaunlet | 4” | -3 | D6 no scatter | |
Each had Ace to 7 in cards for each mech to select their activation , which they would reveal at same time , rolling off for any similiar pointed activation’s.
If anyone is wondering why they are using 2d6, its simply because of our heroes to roll of identical roles on multiple occasion on anything but a d20.
Pete got the lowest rolls on all but one, this somehow we felt didnt auger well especially as his total role on 6 dice only just hit 12!
For bootcamp attenders, lousy dice rolling is a club thing not just me!
Move 1
On 1st activation both players went for a cautious advance, followed by a standard shot from each mech.
This pretty much put both of Kieths Warglaves out of range other than 1 heavy stubber, so all he had was his AA guns and his 2 autocannons and 2 heavy stubbers in range, Pete had all 4 of the Helverin Cannons , His Auto cannons and rocket pod plus heavy stubbers., so in theory should have got the best of it, but the Dice gods though differently
By the end of the 1st exchange Keith had take out a carapace section and a leg space dropping on Peters left hand Helvirin in exchange he managed to shoot up a passing pigeon flock for no hits hence the game title.
Update
Played 2nd game, a few images below. The scenario really didnt let game develop as one player had to get to location hit to gain data and won.
Only a handful of shots made and really didnt test game.
Will see how wet get on with game 3 and and the addition of Helverins.
With mulitple Knights you have to be aware of side shots so suggest rather than making new grids from side, you halve the locations and only allow hits on the relevant side.
An Idea develops
One of the things I first amended was how the actions works, not the system but how the players picked their orders for the move, rather than them writing them down, gave each player 7 card for each of the the different types of action and got them to bid them , In the game the player has 3 actions pts for his Knight with the various actions costing 1-3 pts to perform , snap shot is one, but aimed is 3 , which they pick before any movement is made, when they bid any single action order goes 1st ties, are rolled for, then the 2 and 3 etc. As some actions like an aimed shot only need one card and that would give the game away to the opponent, each player picks 3 card with the unused ones being blinds and are discarded once shown.
At some point it may be an idea to produce our own cards with the orders on them so player dont have to look at table…….hmn!!
If it wasn’t for the fact there are 7 options @avernos blank dice would be ideal.
I have a couple of Armigers painted, and may by next Wednesday have two Helvicans completed so decided to have a go using images of Google and paint to draw up new grids reducing locations for the smaller knights and converting wpns stats from 40K for the new wpn types both for the Armiger and the Castallan type
Their didn’t seem to be an exact science to the way they were converted on the game so generally halved values/ranges etc rounding up , other than meltagun which for some reason has same range in Renegade Knight as in 40k.
As an update to above, something I forgot until we were playing 3rd game.
In the base game, an Knight is destroyed/put hors de combat if 6 locations are destroyed. Decided that for the Armigers it would only need 4, but on the larger Valiant/Castellans it would be 8.
Also most loctation on the the base knight have been between 3 and 4 armour pts, for the Armigers I reduced this to 2-3 and on on the Valiant/Castellans increased it to 6. 7 or 8.
There is no science used to work out above, it was done as a trial to be adjusted. but in 3rd game (report later) seemed to work. The Castaellan will be tried in next weeks game.
A surprising Hit
Apart from the Bolt Action bootcamp things For the Tanyard Trooper little group has been a bit lax with the sudden Hospital Stay of our Rules Guru the Infamous Kevin’. Not helped by own little brush with A&E due to me developing an irregular heart beat. Plus the Keith our resident re-en-actor of things historical being on a dig in the Orkneys.
We finally managed to get a meeting last Wednesday (10/10/18) and with nothing planned decided to let Keith have a play with the big stompy Knights I finished over the summer. Although not the models int the Renegade Knights box (not even built those yet) laid out a table with random Gothic terrain and used two of the city boards from the Killteam range (pics to follow).
The rules in the book consist of 2 pages of modified stats , with an interesting activation sequence and a sheet for each knight with a grid for hit locations.
It looked a bit basic but we need a no brianer game for our return and…….
We had a blast, the simple rules worked and the way the grid and shooting is resolved removed the need for shooting modifiers , if you hit a point on grid behind cover you missed, easy.
So know we have played the game and wondered how to develop it and add Castallan and Armiger knights.
Now the game is basically designed for two players with one Knight a side, in with only one piece of terrain , and when of the Knights has primarily melee wpns it does look abit one sided, untill you play it and realise his advantage is he doesnt have to role on the location chart to hit the location he wants, so if he gets in he really upset his opponent.
The denser terrain may give that player an advantage so with the following ideas of using more than one Knight a side, I don’t want to put to much complication into a game that seems to work.













































