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The Barons War – Free book adventure

The Barons War – Free book adventure

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About the Project

In March 2022, if you were part of a gaming club Footsore were giving away single copies to clubs of The Baron's War Rulebook. (Until they run out try this address... [email protected]) Got one of the free rule books for my club. (Thank you Footsore Miniatures & Games.) I think we will probably try the Dark Age Conquest supliment version of the game first because I have a painted Saga minis collection I can point up. That likely route to playing hasn't stopped me starting to kitbash a retinue from fantasy and Dark Age sprues to be playable in the actual Barons War period around 1215.

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de Percy Lord

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Looking at the de Percy hereldry... Blues and yellows suit him fine and the red cloak shows that he's wealthy.... But having so many knights in this retinue I am having to get creative to find de Percy symbols, colours and themes. Need to try and have the knights be individuals but with common crossover to keep it one force.Looking at the de Percy hereldry... Blues and yellows suit him fine and the red cloak shows that he's wealthy.... But having so many knights in this retinue I am having to get creative to find de Percy symbols, colours and themes. Need to try and have the knights be individuals but with common crossover to keep it one force.
He's from the Footsore Welsh model range... But a knight mini is a knight mini and he looks cool. ?He's from the Footsore Welsh model range... But a knight mini is a knight mini and he looks cool. ?

Changes already.

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Painted up another archer to be added to the Douglas green archers I have alreadyPainted up another archer to be added to the Douglas green archers I have already
The more I look at the de Percy list the more I think there's a balance issue so the elements I said I would add earlier (small shield added to Spearmen for WYSIWYG, galowglas up to 4 minis not 3, back fill archers) are now being added.The more I look at the de Percy list the more I think there's a balance issue so the elements I said I would add earlier (small shield added to Spearmen for WYSIWYG, galowglas up to 4 minis not 3, back fill archers) are now being added.
The lists have been altered so that both forces are now up to 520 points. Might be a tiny change, but it just feels better this way. The lists have been altered so that both forces are now up to 520 points. Might be a tiny change, but it just feels better this way.

Galwegian Retinue Completed

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I wonder whether a 500 pts list in this game should be more elite. I think that the de Percy retinue matches this one fairly, but am conscious that only one side has knights beyond the leaders and this seems important though this is without playing the game yet.I wonder whether a 500 pts list in this game should be more elite. I think that the de Percy retinue matches this one fairly, but am conscious that only one side has knights beyond the leaders and this seems important though this is without playing the game yet.
I am already considering the changes I might make to progress to a 750 pts list without vere playing a game. I realise that this could all have been a folly if I don't like the playing aspect of the game. I enjoyed Test of Honour, I have found an interest for the Barons' War era so I hope there will be a hook in the game that continues to hold my interest.I am already considering the changes I might make to progress to a 750 pts list without vere playing a game. I realise that this could all have been a folly if I don't like the playing aspect of the game. I enjoyed Test of Honour, I have found an interest for the Barons' War era so I hope there will be a hook in the game that continues to hold my interest.
I will probably add small Wargames Atlantic Irish shields to the spearmen here and unit the two spearmen units and add some foot nights to build up this force.I will probably add small Wargames Atlantic Irish shields to the spearmen here and unit the two spearmen units and add some foot nights to build up this force.
I will definately find a way to send the archer galowglas back to his three fellows and make them a veteran unit as I build the retinue in points.I will definately find a way to send the archer galowglas back to his three fellows and make them a veteran unit as I build the retinue in points.

Spearmen - padded out the list

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The last of my Antediluvian Miniatures purchase are painted up and my 500 PTS is painted.The last of my Antediluvian Miniatures purchase are painted up and my 500 PTS is painted.
Painted in the same fashion as my shield adorned group of 4 I think I may just add some small shields to these guys in future and lake them a unit of 8Painted in the same fashion as my shield adorned group of 4 I think I may just add some small shields to these guys in future and lake them a unit of 8

Percy procrastination

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I should be finishing my first retinue. Instead I found an excuse to build and paint these fellas. De Percy crossbowmen from FireForge Games.I should be finishing my first retinue. Instead I found an excuse to build and paint these fellas. De Percy crossbowmen from FireForge Games.
Keeping the yellow and blue theme and keeping them a little cleaner than the other force.Keeping the yellow and blue theme and keeping them a little cleaner than the other force.
A head swap from a Frostgrave Soldier sprue seems a touch small, but variety is fun.A head swap from a Frostgrave Soldier sprue seems a touch small, but variety is fun.

Shield designs - The command group is completed

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I asked the below on The Barons’ War FacePage.

“I don’t mind if things stray from the historically accurate. It’s a game. Acting out a skirmish that never happened this way with toy soldiers.

That said… We know perhaps what the Knights and Barons had shield designs and colours wise because of the snippets of heraldic history from the age… But would the retinue have the same shield design as their lord, or would there be a distinction. I know the colours on their tabards etc. would help link them to their lord, but what about shield design?”

The consensus was that the knights often kept their heraldry strictly to the head of the family / strictly to the person earning their knighthood, but occasionally sons of the Lord / Baron.

The heraldry conventions hadn’t been as formalised as it was later in the period and apparently uniform tabards that matched your Baron’s family colours etc. were also a way off being a convention of war.

The Douglas battle cry was “A Douglas, A Douglas!” which suggests to me that you had better shout who you are for fear of being stabbed by your own side. That the name carried an element of fear that would perhaps make a less determined combatant find someone else to fight or somewhere else to be.

Archibald of Douglas with his pennant and foot sergeants. Archie holds the three star shield, but his men have an additional black band to show they are kin or trusted retinue but they are not The Douglas.Archibald of Douglas with his pennant and foot sergeants. Archie holds the three star shield, but his men have an additional black band to show they are kin or trusted retinue but they are not The Douglas.
The lion rampant on the blue field is a Lord of Galloway device and there seems to be evidence that if you didn't have a shield of your own family, or something provided from your Baron's armoury, you could carry something related to you region. (That's my excuse and I am sticking to it.)The lion rampant on the blue field is a Lord of Galloway device and there seems to be evidence that if you didn't have a shield of your own family, or something provided from your Baron's armoury, you could carry something related to you region. (That's my excuse and I am sticking to it.)
The black stripe is enough of distinction for me. The Douglas clan didn't really get the distiction of the Black Douglas / Red Douglas distiction until later in the era, but it allows me to have fun and keep close to what I was doing before.The black stripe is enough of distinction for me. The Douglas clan didn't really get the distiction of the Black Douglas / Red Douglas distiction until later in the era, but it allows me to have fun and keep close to what I was doing before.

Starting with the enemy. De Percy Mounted Knights

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I tried some freehand diamonds and found it tough. I have plenty of practice to come, so fingers crossed.I tried some freehand diamonds and found it tough. I have plenty of practice to come, so fingers crossed.
I looked up Percy hereldry later in the period and found fish as an emblem so tried my hand at some pike/salmon type fish.I looked up Percy hereldry later in the period and found fish as an emblem so tried my hand at some pike/salmon type fish.

Spearmen - mail males - Antediluvian Miniatures

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These turned out great.These turned out great.
I hadn't seen the shields when I bought them. Enjoyed the freehand on this one.I hadn't seen the shields when I bought them. Enjoyed the freehand on this one.
Now that I know they have the shields I can add those against their point cost when I go to build higher point retinues with what I have.Now that I know they have the shields I can add those against their point cost when I go to build higher point retinues with what I have.
I am enjoying the weathering on this project. Not sure why poor Angus deserved such trauma to his eye. Perhaps he'll die before the story is properly told.I am enjoying the weathering on this project. Not sure why poor Angus deserved such trauma to his eye. Perhaps he'll die before the story is properly told.
Very cool pose drawing his sword. I might have to get more of this style of minis. Very nicely sculpted.Very cool pose drawing his sword. I might have to get more of this style of minis. Very nicely sculpted.

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