March 30, 2016 by dignity
In this chat as part of Human Sphere N3 Week for Infinity we're going to be discussing the rules for Fireteams and how they work at a basic and advanced level.
Come and get stuck into the discussion and let us know about how you use Fireteams and how you might change things up as Human Sphere N3 rolls around.
Drop your thoughts below...
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I keep seeing Infinity as a buddy cop movie whenever we hear about Duo… 😀
Father Knights in a Fireteam Duo are a salivating prospect. This week is really changing my approach to Infinity list building.
loving all this coverage
this week just get better
Karakuri haris fireteams count me in
Harris Wulvers and Mormaers you say? To shreds you say?
And now even vanilla lists can join in the fun, in a manner of speaking anyway with EVO bots.
I really like this.
Fireteam duo is going to be a game changer for vanilla armies.
Might get into C. Army, want something different this time.
This has to be one of the best ranges of sci-fi on the market
Guess I’ll have to buy some Sekbans and Druze now 🙂
Geckos get Duo, I knew it, woohoo! Now just some new profiles and tweaks please 🙂
PanO ORCs have fireteam Haris but so far are in no sectorial iirc. That means they are now. Neat. *pleaseletitbeneoterra*
Two awesome movies a day, this whole week is one looong christmas!
Still so much in Infinity not tried yet, including linked fireteams and hackers so really ought to get back into it and expand horizons somewhat.
Dynamic changes! Really looking forward to trying this all out!
Finally Govads have sense now!
This book keeps sounding better and better
Its starting to get really exciting.
Now I just need a lottery win so I can purchase everything!
Hoping there are new close combat bonuses for fireteams that they just failed to mention.
OK… now’s the time when I’m lost. I have no idea what you’re talking about because I’ve nobody around for Infinity… I definately have to convince someone to start playing…
Oh My God!
Father-Knights!
Tohaa links that don’t break so easily!
WOW
I think the proliferations of multiple fire teams and some strengthening of their rules is going to be great for sectorial armies across the board.
Two man fire teams…sweeeeeet!!
Domaru butai with fireteam duo.. That’s for me xD
I’m really liking the fireteam Duo – especially with Geckos! It sure as heck beats haemorrhaging your command tokens to perform coordinated orders!
I was hoping the Nisses would have Fireteam duo skill…why do Orcs have Harris? Are we getting a new sectorial soon???!!!
Geckos get Fireteam DUO??? Oh lord……
So it is two months before I get my N3HS, but fire teams!
Duo links in vanilla ftw, now we can have wide choice and some order efficiency
I think the Duo fireteams are going to bring some interesting tactics to vanilla armies! Well done CB!
Nice Fireteams but sadly no Fireteam Duo for the Yuan Huos.
What is it I’m hearing in the distance? TAG’s galore!!!
Getting so excited for this release
Wow!!, just Wow really, sooo many new possiblities with this changes!!! :O gonna love even more my Nomads.
3 links at once in Caledonia. Yes pls.
I am very excited to have steel phalanx fireteams with only 2 members. It can be a really fun way to move our close combat beasts up the board.
Gekos y dúo and wildcats in haris cooool
Like lino teams where not strong as it was, now they even more so.
Orc for neoterra?
Kurgarat link team!* Passes out
These sound pretty nice. Glad to see my Tohaa will keep their Triads.
Geckos and father knights just got mo awesomeness !!
thats a boost for everybody
Morats getting some Harris love. 🙂
Umbra Legates in a Rodok Fireteam! Nice!
Great, enjoying this week so far.
two man fire teams is going to bring some really interesting tactical choices to the board!
I can totally see HI duos storming upfield and then going into suppressive fire.
Super efficient.!
Super stoked about getting into Infinity
Wow, winning one of those prize sets would be SWEET!
Gecko team ftw
yeah I noticed that too, Orcs have harris… what sectorial?
OK. No love for Shasvastii 🙁
Double su jian!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omg, Legates in fire-team!
Interesting stuff!
Hot Tip. Apparently to improve my chances of winning any prizes. Everyone else has to stop posting on the vids. Please
Love that links don’t drop when you lose the third member, been using 3 man links in Steel Phalanx for greater board control but they’re one mistake away from falling apart, not anymore!
Hoping this is only a partial list of candidates for fireteam duo, because it sounds like a godsend for vanilla armies.
I’m liking the synergy thei’re going for in the vanila armies of bringing an EVO drone to get a fireteam, heck, even a sectorial will want an EVO just in case.
I love this series! Can’t wait to see the rest of the videos!
I know someone who is going to get another father-knight for his PanO. 😀
These video’s are really stoking up my enthousiasm for the game. -insert thumbs up-
How nice, i wish we had these rules earlier!
I really hope I win this!!!
Coves Belli are just doing it right…
Okay. So that will be Geckos for my Nomads and an extra Father-Knight for my PanO force.
Still wondering what the benefit of Haqqislam is now that they have Haris ‘taken away’.
Gecko rampage, this whole Human Sphere is beyond expectation and still 2 days of sneak peeks to go!
Get ready for my Duo Jing army!
Two Fire teams thinking…
Karakuri haris link team!!! wowwwww I’m buying the box straight away!
so with an EVO hacker you can make duo team in vanilla?
Oh well, another excuse to dive in vanilla Yu Jing lol
I definitely might need to grab some Geckos for my Nomad if we can now have them in a fireteam!
After viewing most of these videos I’m pretty daunted by the learning curve. Realistically, how long does it take to get familiar with the game. I don’t *plan* on doing tournaments so mainly just casual gaming.
actually its not as bad as it looks. You see you need the basics: how to roll, how to move and mesure, the regular action and how to ARO. then it all depends on your trrops. there are hundreads of skills available but you never have more than a dozen in a team at ONCE. the wiki is very accurate and the book easy to search – so you learn what you need for your lineup, ask questions about your opponent army and youre good to go. As you play you learn new stuff, play against new opponent and you improve your game.
Thanks @noirfatale. I see ten miniatures per side and books that look like the tax code and my confidence wanes. Your explanation helps!
Must agree, demo game and quick start rules(free on the CB website) is how we got started and it didn’t take long before we were doing the full rules and having a ton of fun. I would be hard pressed to think of a mini game that’s more fun and has such outstanding fluff. I’ve gamed for 45+ years and Infinity was my first non WW2 or Napoleonic game. Says a lot for CB and Infinity. These “Infinity Weeks” were what got me hooked. CURSE YOU BoW!
Really nothing to worry about. The game is very easy to learn if you start with demo games of 150 points (that means 5 or 6 minis on each side). The learning curve isn’t that bad. The complexity hits only when you start playing really competitively in ITS. But by that time, you should be familiar with the special rules for your own faction and the most common ones in your environment.
These look like they are much needed, way to rebalance
I simply love it!
I want mooore!
Haris for the wulvers, yes!
Loving the infinity week
A huge Steel Phallanx nerf by moving the discover bonus. :/
Everyone just got a whole lot more power. Will be good to see upcoming videos, to see what is happening to my beloved Tohaa. Do you have to spend a command token to rebuild the Triad from 2 members back to 3?
The fireteam is always a deadly weapon, excellent
Assuming a link of 3-4 under any name (triad, Ento) get the same bonus a core team? Watched twice and still didn’t confirm that, Seems a duo gets no bonus though just order economy. Still really sweet!
Killian! Love this week!
Loving all the improvements to the rules. Sounds like my games will be getting more intense.
Would have loved to see Haris for Bolts 😐
Fireteams for the win!
So good to see there is coming even more depth in gameplay. I love options. The more the better.
Glad to see fireteams becoming more versatile and more widely available. Letting them continue to operate after going down to 2 men is scary though…there goes my usual strategy against Tohaa.
Tohaa are getting a lot stronger now that the team is not instantly broken with the loss of a member! I think the most nerfed are the aleph that nothing changes to them actually.
….No 2nd CAMERONIAN Fireteam???…..AAAWWWUuuuuugghhhh…. 🙁
Looks like I finally have to learn the rules for Fireteams.
Great for the sectorials. As vanilla player I find it harder and harder to keep up with them but now I get duo with EVO at least. Time to go a Steel Phalanx in wait for Vedic.
Fire teams galor after this book hits! Awesome but it’s gonna cause chaos on the battlefield! Can’t wait!
2 Geckos. 2! 🙂
Wallace and my Galwegians in a standard fire team has been quite effective, but duo fire team options will open up a sea of possibilities.
Father knights are cool any way. Adding the order effiency of duo fire teams will be awesome.
Really enjoying the expansion ideas.
Another great Infinity video.
Well I’ll be seeing my Scots Guard more on the table now.
This gives some nice new options
I will need to study a lot!
HARIS for Asawira!? Wuhuuuuw my dreams!! 🙂
Really intriguing this development.
Duo is great, More Harris is great, Evo is great… but being able to actually use a hacker and not ruin your link… the best!
Well, Corregidor got at least some interesting options, that makes me happy)
Justin Stop touching the models LOL
Hoping to see if Haramaki Butai will be able to duo as well.
Duo sounds like a fun addition!
I hope they have streamlined the rules, because they were very complex.
I didn’t start the fire,fires been burning since the earths been turning…will definitely be looking into fire teams
These new rules sound amazing! With all the new synergies and combos that EVO Hackers, Fireteams, etc. offer, listbuilding will get even more interesting!
I am worried, though, that vanilla lists won’t be able to compete anymore. Fireteams got stronger across the board, so what are vanilla lists getting?
Great week!
Fire team rules are great. I play Aleph and Tahoo, so I can go wild with fireteams.
I like the changes to the core fire teams and haris is just amazing, to see it spread in lots of factions. Tohaa have a very nice boost now for their teams and I think they are going to be very feared. However: Mother of god I will be playing duo teams whenever I can using all the modles I can with it when I get games going.
so many fireteams
Aleph si comming for you with her fireteams. I wonder, if I can use 3 or 4 of them…
Druze and Asawira! looking forward to finally using these guys
Fire team Duo looks interesting
Umbra and 4 rodock that looks like am interesting team
Geckos in firefeam duo. I’m a happy nomad player!
I’m hoping that FRRM will at least benefit from Duo teams…
Go team go! This will make things interesting….. 🙂
A tag fireteam is a bit OP …. that is mean.
setesch – I feel for you. I’ve got a long way to go to travel to my closest Infinity players, and meanwhile they’re getting in about 4 games a week. The game is SO worth playing, though. And maybe the fluff from the new book will just tip you over the edge 😉
just when i was getting the hang of fireteams
Gecko Fireteam Duo? You think that’s scary?
No-one was paying attention to the Su Jian Duo, then!
Awesome additions and changes. Though i’m a bit disappointed that bolts didn’t get Haris or Duo, but really sweet that Orcs got Haris =)
These new rules are really going to open some options. Just when I was getting into the swing of vanilla N3, they bring out 31 flavours!
Need. Neeeeed the new book
This will change the game. That’s good!
Moving fire teams could lead to interesting and large battles. Awesome!
Caledonian Wulvers and Mormaers get Harris? Look at the nice boost to the Caledonians! Awesome sauce…. More please.
Dang I missed the Kurgats Harris the first watch. Burst 3 auto cannon, burst 3 in ARO? Brutal!!!!
Hmm, linkable TAGs and hackers, i love it!
Gotta get me some Geckos.
Awesome! Now to see if I can fit a Karakuri haris and a Haramaki link team in a list.
I’m looking forward to seeing the fireteam options for JSA.
Gecko Brost team for the win!
It makes way more sense fluff and game wise to have more fireteams
i love fireteams … so … i’m a happy happy infinity-player right now ^^
Thanks for all the coverage and for building anticipation.
The best week . Gets better
Love it. Lots of options in combination with the new hacking devices.
Auch! Some scary stuff in there
That’s a lot of Haris
Great vid, keep the info coming!
i like it new rules on fire teams!!!!
More shooty shooty, something we all love.
Sweet! Especially interested in running an Asawira Haris or Duo teams. Still, the new rules lead us away from the Vanilla lists a bit more now.
But come on: surely the Azra’il – and all those other new S5 heavies – should get Fireteam Duo?! Orrrr, is that just a little too much 😉
This sounds great, can’t wait to give it a try.
So many fireteams, hope the “sections” for Tohaa will be big 😛
Wish MO was getting some Haris loving, but the Father Knight duo sounds pretty awesome
cool
Can’t wait to get to try these out!
Super excited about the changes.
IMO, Infinity Week is the best week in wargaming. Just got to love it, Infinity, Killian and Carlos, it just doesn’t get better. Thanks BoW gang.
This opens up a whole host of different combos! List builders will be drooling for days
Duos are cool.
I have never used a fireteam. i have only played vanilla Haqq. i am happy with this change.
Azra’il duo team plz! Also cost reduction or SOMETHING to lessen the regret that comes from fielding them almost always
Man these rules are cool
DUO Fireteams! Awesome!
WOW thats crazy, so excited for Human Sphere
I have not yet played this game, so I am sure all of the imp,I actions escape me. Do all armies have the core fire teams?
The leader gets the bonuses, but do all of the other members shoot as well? Do they all get ARO?
Sorry if this is obvious to everyone else.
Pretty clear that you are going to need these new updates or your going to get your a** kicked.
very interesting opens up so nice options
Great coverage – preordered already. Looking forward to my Wildcat Harris team.
One thing for me, duo fireteam father Knights, everyone run for the hills.
Fire teams just got a whole lot bad ass! if that were even thinkable 😉
That is a serious expansion to the existing fireteam rules – Those are going to take some time to digest…
I have got to try out fire teams when I get the new rules from the new Human Sphere book.
Carlos killed me at 04:02… “do not touch it” xD
Fire teams rock
As a tohaa player I can’t wait for the triads to not be broken when reduced to two man fireteams.
Any information on:
1. if long skills will break a link?
2. are impetuous troops still going to be able to use cover when in a fireteam?
This is sweet. My Morats are happy and if they are happy I’M happy!
One of the best games out there. glad i see it receive good coverage
Damn, I am so excited about HSN3! I hope they make a video about the First Contact Onyx Force, It looks Amazing!
Hope I win x3
finally getting a bro for my lonely fatherknight..
I’m the most excited about Fireteam Duo as they can be used outside sectorials.
Su Jian Duo’s might be fun.
OK, time to go back to my favorite activity: list building !
This is getting better and better…
great vids guys
God Dammit, CB you’ve just sold me on this, Fireteams seems like the way I’m gonna go.
Love these changes for Caledonia
Now to figure out how many fireteams I can include in a force of the various varieties.
Fantastic !!
Can’t wait to try out some new combos
Maybe we will need more commad tokens guys 🙂
I’m seeing great possibility for seldom used units getting play time and not sacrificing them due to more common auto-includes. More variety and less predictable lists is great.
gecko fireteams yessssssss!
Bakunin will be finaly playeble…
Haris Karakuri solves my biggest dilemma when writing JSA lists. Who to link? the Keisotsu or the explodey bots?
Why not both!
Again something for everyone
wish i had not told me friends about beasts of war they will all be watching this lol
Triads a best.
How big are the teams going to get?
Oh yeah Haris: Govads, Duo: Asiwira yes please.
Seeing a huge proliferation of fireteams is a little disconcerting… the more accessible they are, the more Infinity could shift from a game of individual skirmish to one of squads.
But, I had similar worries about the fireteam concept itself back in the day, and CB managed to balance that out incredibly well. If they’ve tested things out for this like they did originally, and the fact they held back HSN3’s release so long shows they almost certainly did, my doubts will prove unfounded after seeing the rules play out on the table!
HAVENT A CLUE IM STILL SMELLING THE NEW RULE BOOK
Father Knights! That is exciting.
I love the miniatures – i’m so tempted to increase my Infinity collection…
The wulver are Haris Team now?! Yeah, i love this one!
This is definitely game changing… But we´ll see how it turns out to affect the meta!
Um die Nachteile der tohaa auszugleichen ist die Anwendung von fireteams zwingend notwendig
Fireteam Duo is very thematic. Great idea of letting the EVO’s make a Duo Team in a generic list.
Gonna love this. Chose a good time to start playing
That’s very interesting
Fire Team`s, think i`ll be investing in some of them. Not sure what type, but i`ll have to see the weapon option`s available to them and take it from there…………….
Looks good
Seriously, TAG team? dirty
It will be interesting to see what more common access to Haris will do for the sectorial vs vanilla debate…
I really have to collect Infinity models.
Need the book, can’t handle all the teasing 😛
Well I’m off to get Gecos…
Info overload I must of watch all the vids at least twice to take it all in.
Heidi duo fire teams…
Asuras duo fire teams…
Father Knight duo fire teams….
Ok, I need a moment
Hmm for some reason gecko became Heidi….
Fireteams down to two dudes! Sweet!
Should really add some tactical flexibility to the game.
Gecko duo fireteam!!! =D
Love the new fireteam rules!
Guess i’ll have to buy those wildcats now…
Some nice changes to the game here. This is going to add some extra things for folks to think about.
This is going to shake up a lot of lists – awesome!
Fireteam duos…. get to live out Tango and Cash??
That’s a whole lot of new options. Will take time to get used with all of this stuff, but that’s tasty!
Can’t wait to put these to good use
Interesting vid
Fire teams look wicked!
Duo teams. Double the geckos…
All those co-ordinated attacks! I can’t wait!
If you think this game is awesome, someday on a curent week comes Carlos and blows your mind out!!
i like the fireteams so order effective 😉 and the fireteam duo sounds super cool
Hooray for revised fireteam rules! Can’t wait to try these rules out!
It looks cool!
Thoses rules looks SOOOO great … I can’t wait trying them !!!!!
Sounds very interesting
I never could quite get into sectorial armies, since it means I can’t use some lovely mini’s.
Jeez I love the idea of fireteams
Gecko fireteams. Dear god.
Duo Yan Hou?
Pure awesome!
So much want! I’m loving these rules, especially the bonuses.
I am looking forward to team tactics with the new expansion. Thanks for the video.
I’ve managed to resist Infinity for a while but I’m getting so tempted now!
could really use some infinity starters ^^
im hooked on this, avid follower
I have a hell of a lot of reading to do and catch up on the rules for this. Finally taken the plunge and getting into infinity
The duo is a nice addition; opens up some new tactical options.
Great news! Vanilla armies needed this 😀
Can’t wait to try out my Geckos with fire team duo!
Giving more power to what many would see as mundane troops. I like it.
This Infinity Week is great! Really wanting to get into it now 🙂
Awesomesouce!
Yet again Corvus Belli and infinity lead the way both with quality of miniatures and gaming rules.
Oh My GECKOS! Yes, in a fire team! h I love my Gecko’s , absolutely amazing land mate models since release! In a Fire Team.. wow, looking forward to it!
Oh man Fireteam Duo Su Jian (if I heard that right) – that’s going to look awesome seeing two robo-kitties tearing across the battlefield…
So much depth and complexity to the new infinity rules!! They sound great! The Tohaa are really coming out this week as a completely individual faction. I really love the sound of all of their mechanics. The combined army also sound very very interesting. Those mini’s that Carlos was showing off as a 5 man fire team look incredible! Not just in terms of their paint job but the sculpt and posing too! Just too many awsome miniatures in the infinity range!
I’m really getting a feel for Infinity now, thanks to all your coverage. Thanks guys!
these is getting better and better great work
Smaller fire teams means more flexibility overall I think
CB s like an Oprah =)
Sounds pretty cool must get me some karakuris now
Thanks, lots of inspiration for my Caledonian army again. Damn soo much fireteam options for my troops. Love it!
Why is there so much month left at the end of the paycheck?
Fire teams seem like a good option but I think it takes time to master the rules to ensure you use these for the best tatical advantage. New rules seems better “tuned” though.
This was super!
Pretty cool!
I like these fire team ideas
I loved this!
Cool show! 🙂
Cool tactics!
As an Aleph player great to see Human Sphere updated and just about to start with my first Steel Phalanx list after playing vanilla Aleph up until now. Cant wait to get started and see how I get on. Looks like some new rules to learn but not too much different than before, but Fireteam Duo is going to make things interesting.
Love that vanilla is getting a little bit of link team love!
This was lovely!
So many ways to group troops.. Lots to think on for strategy and layers to play.
Great stuff!
Infinity is cool!
Infinity rox!
I guess this would mean more to me if I’d played a game…