Mantic Preview What’s Ahead For DreadBall 2nd Edition
July 9, 2016 by brennon
Mantic Games' DreadBall 2nd Edition is on the cards and with that Mantic have been powering through on Development Diaries chronicling their next steps with the new version of the game. The latest one showed off this rather impressive Ultimate Artwork...
Of course you can't have a new version of the game without some new teams.
New Players!
Here we have them looking towards some Sumo inspired Reptiles...
...and for those of you who utterly hate the idea of missing games of DreadBall, the Undead Cyborgs. Keep playing even when you've been broken in half!
Last but not least we also have this wonderful looking new DreadBall pitch which is very nice indeed.
A New Playspace
We always like seeing what people do with their own custom pitches but this looks great and would be a welcome addition when popping open the game.
You can find out more and hear them waxing lyrical about the new edition of the game coming in the near future. Keep an eye out for more as we come closer to a new way of playing DreadBall.
What do you think?
"...for those of you who utterly hate the idea of missing games of DreadBall, the Undead Cyborgs."
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So what happened to Mantic’s previous line that once a game was established, there will be no kickstarters for it, just straight releases. If Dreadball isn’t classed as established by now, might as well pack up and go home…
Mantic have a habit of saying one thing and doing another
Mantic, please, stick closely to the these cool concept sketches for both of the teams and transfer them into ace miniatures. There are nice proportions on the bodies (the bare Sumos, too) as well as the platings’ shapes, amount and thickness (or rather thinness).
So mantic justify releasing a second edition because the first became too bloated (which in response to a query of mine on facebook, they actually blamed on the fans), and then creatie even more teams and thus bloating the game even more?
Yay, yet another Mantic sh*tstarter. Seriously guys, its getting old now, especially for already established games.
yeah, imagine that … a company deciding to change how they want to do stuff.
We can’t have that. They should be doing mindlessly what they promised us, even if that isn’t in their best interest.
I would have no issue with Mantic changing their business plan, if they didnt continue to make such statements. It seems after every KS mantic will drop some guff about supporting retailers, and how their systems need to stand on thier own and grow naturally, before turning around and doing another KS.
CMON use KS more than mantic, ive no issue with this being their business model as unlike mantic they don’t seem to be ashamed of the fact.
Judging by most customers’ responses every time they announce a new KS, it isn’t doing their image a lot of good, even if it is bumping up their bank balance short term. Churning out new game after new game and new edition after new edition on Kickstarter is really putting me (and I guess a lot of folks) off buying into any of their games. Couple that with slipping timescales and missing items on pledges and its a recipe that keeps my money firmly in my pocket.
I would rather see them in a mutually beneficial arrangement with LGS by pushing customers to buy there and getting LGS to do promotional work through tournaments and events.
Don’t forget changing the contents of backer rewards after the end of the kickstareter, and the lack of proof reading and playtesting.
I’m the idiot that bought Deadzone and DreadBall first editions for full RRP direct from Mantic and they were utterly disappointing in every aspect, from shoddy miniatures, to rule awful book layout, to piss poor production values.
Guildball and the new Blood Bowl release will be getting my toy soldier sport games money!
Guild Ball is great fun and a great game… but extremely different from Dreadball … so I don’t know if those two are really comparable even though they are both “rugby” style games… as for Blood Bowl, my concern with that one is the support after initial new edition… sounds like it will be a GW boxed set but then everything after that will be Forge World add ons… not saying Forge World is bad.. their stuff is usually amazing.. but I don’t see how that’s going to be easy for stores to support.. not to mention the change in materials from team to team bothers my OCD (of course, Mantic did the same thing.. and even Guild Ball has Metal or Resin versions of their figures.. )
Blood Bowl is not handled by Forgeworld, but by a new design sub-Studio (return of Specialist Games department). The core box set will be in coloured GW plastic, humans and Orcs. Then they will release supplement boxed sets, like Death Zone, with two more plastic teams, each in their own colour.
At least six teams have been mentioned will be snap-together, coloured plastic.
The new Specialist Games comes under the Forge World banner, not GW.
There is an absolute tonne of stuff out there already when it comes to Fantasy Football that you really shouldn’t worry about whether GW may or may not drop support themselves.
That isn’t to say I don’t want it to succeed because I’d hope to see a bunch of other old Specialist games come back with new fancy looking models
So, I actually really enjoy Dreadball as a game… there are too many teams with some balance issues if you are trying to play in a competition or tournament, but in friendly games, and with the dice mechanism (exploding 6’s) I honestly don’t have issues with the teams (maybe other than Forge Fathers …) I think the DBX (slash Season 4, 5, 6 Dreadball) Kickstarter was a bit of a catastrophe for the game… 12 new teams and a new “alternative” game were great in theory… some of the sculpts are great… some of them are bad… and the restic material (which they are moving away from) is not good stuff.. I agree that their message for LGSs is very mixed and I don’t know a store that has been successful in starting up with their products. That said, I don’t feel like a 2nd Edition is a bad idea… and as much as there are issues with their KS model, there are also a lot of people that really want the “less than retail” prices that they get from KS and it is almost like an addiction now… if you have paid 30-40% of retail for the last 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 KS from Mantic, I feel like you would be very unlikely to suddenly pay full retail price even if you like the game and have the figures… so they have almost dug themselves into an odd situation where they are either going to alienate established players or continue to alienate LGS and retailers… The only thing I can see as a solution is to slowly tweak their KS so that they are simple and prevent them from getting carried away.. Do a base pledge that is just PDF updates to rules with printable cards (they have said the cards are going to be redone)… do a regular level pledge that is JUST the new 2nd edition starter with 2 new teams, dice, cards, pitch, and rules… and then if they “unlock” new stuff (resculpts? hard plastic multi-pose options for some teams? more new teams like Sumo Lizards) then make those add-ons for a set price ($15 or 20 or whatever they decide)… and then leave it at that.. don’t make it a “must buy everything KS” that alienates all the gaming stores and keep it simple for established gamers to upgrade and yet interesting for new gamers to start up with a decent starter set. Still not perfect.. and clearly some people will be unhappy no matter how it goes.. but at least they could try to get back to their ‘mission statement’ and try to correct some of the issues from ALL of their previous KS that haven’t been solved.
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So will these be the new hard plastic or that god awful restic?
Probably the pvc plastic that Mantic loves at the moment.