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It was clear to me you were speaking for yourself @oriskany
That is the way I take most things people say or type, unless presented with observable facts or data.

I’m sure other veterans could have a  different view.

And sorry to hear that you were having a bad day.

My father (84) recently revealed to me (55) that in his school days during WWII, so I’m guessing during the Battle of Britain, since England was where he was living, he and his classmates were shot at by the tail gunner off a Stuka. He could even see the guy as he traversed the gun, trying to miss the plane’s tail.

Blew my mind… I’ve know him all my life and he has only just told me this….

During my bother and I’s childhood – we would have between around 10 to 13 – one of the first models he showed us how to make and paint was a large scale Stuka.

He told me he could separate his experience from the esthetics of the plane’s design, which he thought was beautiful.

 

If you don’t like the word ethics, would morals or beliefs be more appropriate?

I can see your point about Chess, but to me, Go and Othello use “stones”.
Where as Chess one can quite often find a set with pieces carved or modeled to represent people..

The British TV series “The Prisoner” had a Chess game on a lawn where people stand in for the pieces and the two players sit in a tennis umpire’s seat so they can get a good view of the field of battle.

To me, whilst I can see the value that you and others place on the higher level games like Panzer Leader, I personally don’t think of them as Wargames, mainly because the abstraction level is too high for me. This token or chit – sorry not sure of the correct terminology – represents a squad, company, regiment, etc. If it doesn’t look to me like a 3d person, tank, ship, plane, etc. ie if it doesn’t have miniatures, I personally don’t call it a wargame. And by 3d, that also applies to computer based games.

It is just down to the way I was brought up and have experienced the world so far.  I haven’t played one of those high level games.  If I did…

My views have changed over time, so who knows…

One of my reasons to be on any internet site is to broaden my horizons, views and understandings.

On the subject of the Public and Wargames
At one of our club meetings, we had an older gentleman come around and look at the various games being played. He stood by a historical miniature wargame and looked at it for a while then “announced” to the whole hall that playing historical wargames was a waste of time as we know how it turned out…

Of course he wasn’t met with much agreement on that opinion.