REIQ Teams Up With Soda Pop Again For A Fantastic Gen Con Poster
July 27, 2015 by deltagamegirl22
If you're a fan of the anime style brought to miniature gaming from Soda Pop Miniatures, then you shouldn't miss stopping by booth 1943 at Gen Con.
REIQ has teamed up with Soda Pop for another stunning poster of familiar faces from the Soda Pop world, including Lug Nut photobombing the girls! This awesome poster is not only available at the booth during the convention - it's FREE!
Will you be stopping by Soda Pop to say hello and pick up your anime poster?
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Very nice! I love the big robot thing at the back.
However, the sexist/feminist thought-police will here soon…
Nah, that never happens 😛
There’s a big robot thing at the back? But seriously folks, I love me some Lug. Here’s a WIP of a life-sized Lug – https://instagram.com/p/5Wm15WKaet/
…I was being sarcastic!
Soda pop always have been ‘top-shelf’ minis. No problem with that, as long as your mum, partner, daughter is cool with it.
Some people ‘grow out’ of this phase, I think UncleJimmy is a lost cause though… ( now I’m being sarcastic!) 😉
…yeah, I got lost staring at the tits!
Yeah mad props to MCD. I love the picture of her showing off the muscles. Been going to the gym? No! Sanding my robot! 😀
Yeah, imagine having that robot, fully painted, standing in a corner in your living room. I’d be elevated ti emprah among all my rpg/ttg/bg friends ;P
Gonna get pics for you, Ben!
Beat me to it…
Kinda why I went there @unclejimmy! Lol Perfect timing.
They’ve been oddly silent recently. I think they’re up to something.
I just asked my wife what she thought of this poster. Her reply: Everyone likes boobs.
I took it to mean I should eat a lot more cake and start filling out for her.
There’s a big robot thing at the back? Oh yeah so there is
The sexism triggers my anxiety! I demand that we collectively use jazz hands to use the power of feminist feel-good to scare the boobs on the poster away! On a serious note, only ignorant people and people without humour takes offense on a poster like this.
*jazz hands* Totally applaud this
so…do you want to build a strawman?
You’re a big boy, you’ll manage on your own =)
Well, you certainly don’t need help with yours. Show me where the big bad feminist bit your dick off.
Lol JAZZHANDS!!!
That is one gorgeous poster. I like it a lot.
So much want! Gen Con always gets the nicest stuff!
Sadly I won’t be at GenCon – a flight accross the pond is slightly outside my means at the moment. However, even if I were I wouldn’t be picking that poster up – there’s just so many issues with it, mostly, because I share a house with my wife there’s no way she’d let me have that poster on the wall in our house. It’s not the boobs, it’s the fact it’s a poster. If I lived alone I’d probably have a house plastered with posters, my wife forces me to live in a house that feels like it’s inhabited by grown ups – it’s so oppressive sometimes.
It’s like, we can have black and white photos of Paris but not colourful pictures of anime girls. I’m sure she could tell me why one is better than the other but I’ll be buggered if I know.
I think that poster might go over better with the misses than a poster of cosplay model Marie Claude in that costume , Better safe than sorry
Not so sure – my wife has pictures of Dita von Teese on the bedroom wall!
I was actually hoping for more penises.
Spilt my lucozade laughing! No, that is not a thinly veiled reference to wanking either!
…and when I read it flicking past!
I really ask myself if more females would be interested in Tabletop when the male figures would have melon big balls and tree thick pricks.
Its worth a shot.
Super Dungeon Explore doesn’t want for a female playerbase. I demo-ed it to more women at Expo than men.
Showed this to my wife. She wasn’t impressed.
…does she not like bright colours?
Not wishing to offend unclejimmy’s delicate anti-feminist sensibilities by doing horrible stuff like unduly treating women like people or anything (I mean, I’m not a monster you know), but I do have one question about that poster. Did the artist fail anatomy classes really badly or something? The top middle one in purple just seems to have vague mounds of flesh attached to her torso which seem to not have aerolas positioned where one might expect them.
Seriously, if that is what you think breasts look like then you may need to air out your hobby den – the glue fumes seem to be getting to you…
You do realise what company your talking about yes? These are also based off Anime whose proportions are not realistic either (even some of the men, seriously their muscles have muscles!). If you don’t get/like Anime/Manga then you wont get/like this.
I know precisely what I am talking about, and while anime has rather a lot to answer for with regard to its depiction of women, it is hardly a monolithic, unitary artistic form. The artistic style of shows like Ghost in the Shell, while still admittedly sexualising characters like Major Motoko Kusinagi, don’t butcher female physiology anything like as egregiously as this, even though they would have a better excuse to do so if they wished, since some of the characters in that fiction are full body cyborgs and so are not really bound by contemporary human physical and bodily norms. That said, the same people made Appleseed, and the not at all cybernetic Deunan definitely does come from the exaggerated physiology school of animation, but even that character doesn’t go quite this far.
Just because certain forms of anime could do better and don’t, that doesn’t somehow make this kind of grotesquely misproportioned female character any less aesthetically displeasing to me and others like me. It also doesn’t change the fact that breasts just don’t even begin to look like that.
Definitely eye-catching, I saw the little thumbnail on the side of the front page at something warned me not to click on it at work . . . 🙂
Gotta agree though. God knows I love looking at pictures of hot women, and even women drawn with exaggerated proportions. But the one in the middle seems to be missing something. 🙂 Well, two of them, actually. And eventually the proportions become just silly.
Agreed @oriskany – silly, and even a little disturbing. One can’t help but wonder what goes through the minds of artists that habitually produce images like that; is that really how they see women at some level?
“Displeasing to you and others like you”. Whilst simultaneously being pleasing to someone else and people like them.
There’s no accounting for taste, @onlyonepinman. Unfortunately, sexual objectification is not solely a matter of harmless taste existing in a a social vacuum. I wish it were.
You’re right, there is no accounting for taste. Yours or anyone else’s.
One Man’s “objectification” is another man’s admiration.
One man’s opposition to sexualisation is another man’s prudishness.
It’s all a matter of interpretation really.
Easily said when are not the one getting wolf-whistled everyday, denied promotion because of your genitalia, or otherwise have your life negatively impacted because there are always some people who have difficulty distinguishing between how fictional women are depicted and the acceptable parameters for the treatment of actual women.
It is very easy to let your privilege blind you to the experiences of people not like yourself. It took me years to learn to begin to overcome my own unexamined privilege and consider how imagery like this effects women, and the process is still very much a work in progress.
How do you know? I might be smoking hot
I might get wolf whistled all the time
Those four female characters are depicted on that poster because those are the four that actual women will be cosplaying as on the ND stand at GenCon. These are women who have made a career for themselves doing what they enjoy doing. Society hasn’t forced them into it because they’re women and not fit for anything else. They love what they do and choose to do it. Part of understanding your privilege is not presuming to speak on behalf of the underprivileged.
Personally, I can take or leave the poster, and I say that as a huge fan of both games which are represented in it. Not because I feel it is harmful in any way, it just isn’t my thing. I’m not at all blind to the gender gap which pays women less than men, denies them opportunities granted to men, and can make their day-to-day life less pleasant than men’s, but a knee-jerk reaction to any sexualised imagery just creates and perpetuates pointless back-and-forth like this is turning into. It is a leap to get from this to unequal pay. You could make the argument that it presents an unwelcoming face of the industry to potential female gamers, but as I’ve said further up, my experience on the frontlines is the opposite, and large anime/manga cons tend to do much better at drawing a gender-diverse group than something like Salute.
Once again, I’m not insensitive to genuine social issues facing women and the way in which presentations of women in media contribute to them and perpetuate them. It’s not by any means as straightforward a topic as any sexualised imagery is a contribution to gender gap, though. If someone wishes to make the argument that it is, then do so, don’t assume it. Doing that achieves nothing.
I try not to get involved in discussions about equality or social justice and, where I see them I try to make light of it. The reason is simple; no-one wants true equality (and it’s also virtually impossible to achieve) because true equality means everybody is exactly the same – no differences of belief, experience; no colours or genders. What people actually want is “equal but different” which, apart from being an oxymoron, is also entirely subjective. My version of equality is not the same as the next person’s equality and so on. Life shits on us all in different ways.
What I do push for instead of my version of equality is the right for everybody to be happy; although I’m as English as they come I take my cue from the declaration of independence and that everyone has an unalienable right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. As long as people are happy and they’re not directly interfering with your own happiness just let them be happy and let them enjoy their life because ultimately that’s all any of us can really ask for – happiness. If that means being matching a stereotype, go be that stereotype. If it means breaking the mould, then smash away. But as soon as it becomes your mission to undermine someone else’s happiness or do away with it just because you personally don’t like it; then I have a problem with that.
I don’t have any particular interest in anime (I enjoyed the Robotech Macross Saga and I like Infinity, that’s about as close as it gets) so I have no particular affinity for the poster or Soda Pop miniatures. But I do respect the rights of Ninja Division to produce it, of the cos-play girls to model it and for anyone who enjoys it to continue doing so. Just like I respect someone’s right not to like it; but given the choice between listening (or reading) someone who doesn’t like it moan about it and listening to someone who does like it talk about how happy it makes them, I’ll go for the latter because their happiness, in a small way, makes me happier.
Redben, I am not presuming to speak on behalf of the oppressed or disenfranchised when I make a simple observation about a broad and toxic social trend in our a society The link between sexualised imagery and other expressions of normalised societal sexism may not be a straight road from A to B, but sexism doesn’t just pop into existence ex nihilo – the attitudes that underpin it come from somewhere, and fictional depictions of women are one of those sources. Without tackling the sources of the root attitudes that underpin sexism, you will never be able to tackle the more obvious symptoms of it in areas like the work place – it is all of a part.
It also seems counter-productive to the point of the quixotic to imply that only women can talk about sexism – that would very neatly silence every feminist man on the planet, and thus cut off the feminist movement from a great deal of support. That would hardly advance the cause of gender equality one jot, and would actually play neatly into the hands of misogynists everywhere. It would be much easier to paint feminists as the stereotypical ‘shrill, man hating harpies’ if the only people talking about feminism were women. I am sure that is not your intent, but it would be the outcome if your argument here were actually applied
As for the issue of women who cosplay for their own reasons, the women you describe are cosplayers who choose to present themselves in a light that could be considered sexual of their own free will, and in pursuit of their own agendas. There is an important difference between that and art created primarily by male artists, and intended primarily for consumption by male fans, that consistently depicts women in a certain highly sexualised way – one is an aspect of the agency of women, the other erodes that agency by casting women in the role of passive sex object rather than human beings. There is nothing knee-jerk or unexamined in my critique here.
The term ‘male gaze’ was coined for a reason, after all, and not by a man.
Male Gaze, Gaydar, Women’s Intuition, God…
Having a word for something doesn’t necessarily make it real, relevant, meaningful or any combination of those three.
Are you actually familiar with the term’s use within feminist thought, its origins and the intellectual underpinnings of the concept? It is not as though this was just some notion someone cooked up on a lazy afternoon somewhere – there is an entire well respected body of feminist thought behind this type of analysis. That is hardly comparable to religious mythology, vaguely homophobic beliefs about a person’s innate ability to determine if someone else is gay, or poorly defined notions of gender specific intuition.
Male Gaze, Gaydar, Women’s Intuition, God… one of these things really is not like the others…
Far too familiar for my liking, and they’re quite frankly boring (and all too often questionable) which is why I hate seeing them on Beasts of War. There’s a place for social justice arguments and that place is Tumblr. You’re not going to change the world by commenting on the Internet. You’re unlikely to even change someone’s mind let alone the whole world so posting about how certain aspects of wargaming are part of Patriarchy or whatever isn’t effecting social change but it is bloody annoying; it’s like a faulty house alarm when the owner is on holiday.
So I’m not trying to challenge or change your views on the world or sexism or anything else, I’m just letting you know that your opinions are not facts they’re opinions, just like mine. We could sit here and debate our opinions quoting endless studies and statistics but that’s not why I subscribe to Beasts of War, I subscribe to and I support a website to enhance my wargaming hobbyb and to enable others to do likewise that – even if their choice is semi naked anime girls. So generally, I try to just focus on what is relevant to people here – wargaming and miniatures and I prefer it when other people do the same.
If people are happy doing what they’re doing and it isn’t directly affecting you (or anyone else), let them keep doing it and keep being happy. Go and find some happiness of your own, somewhere else (i.e. a game or miniature that you do like). You’ll find life is much more enjoyable when you stop viewing everything as a constant battle against oppression – even the best soldiers in the world need a break occasionally.
Sexism is a pervasive canker, @onlyonepinman. It may not directly effect you or those you care about in your day to day lives, you may not much care about it, and you may find discussion of it annoying, but none of that makes it go away. That you don’t see it in war gaming does not mean that your judgement is the only judgement.
You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. Perhaps we will never agree, but neither one of us gets to shape the discourse on BoW or anywhere on the internet or in meat space, or tell other people what issues they are allowed to be concerned about.
Perhaps all we can do is agree to disagree. I will be free to continue expressing my concerns about enculturated sexism and may or may not find people open to the discussion, and you will be free to continue considering it to be a non-issue, and each of us will be free to continue considering the other to be wrong – that is best outcome either of us is going to get.
I not saying you’re wrong, just a bit boring.
Generally speaking, I don’t care one way or the other about pictures like this or miniatures of the same. One post by an SJW and I find myself warming to them somewhat.
And it begins….
…i’m not going to say I told you so, but…
p.s., And I gave you a +1 just to give the finger to captain bringdown!
I did wonder where they were hiding after not having commented on the forum discussion about sexy miniatures.
If you really want to know my taste in women – apart from my beautiful wife I prefer the looks of the ‘Pre-Raphaelite’ lady.
No manga characters were harmed in the making of this poster…or something :S