The Weekender: Win Battle Foam & An Epic Wargaming Chat!!!
June 14, 2014 by dignity
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We have another mega Weekender show for you where we have a mountain of cool stuff to chat about! We'll be looking at some new products from Battle Foam and you have a chance to win either the great P.A.C.K 422 with new Molle System OR the epic Privateer Press Tournament Bag!
You can comment on Facebook, here on Beasts of War and of course Youtube to be in with a chance of winning!
We're also looking at the community reaction to our new 3 Colours Up Show and checking out some surprises from DUST Studio that arrived in our mail bag.
As well as that loveliness it's time to chat Warhammer 40,000 some more as Warren unveils more plans for his new army and what alternative models he'll be picking up.
Oh and if you like rambling, we have rambling! Warren chats significant historical battles from Waterloo to World War II and what it takes to be a strategic master.
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Loving the new Privateer bags.
Thanks for another epic show guys!
mouth foaming worthy battle foam
Don’t fret about the beard @warzan other people shave because the weight of manhood is to much 😉 and Ogryns come from planets with high gravity, it was something that took many generations to happen, they wernt genetically engineered…
Ahh! My mistake, still out of a cartoon though 😉
And surely on a high gravity planet, the live that would evolve would be smaller and finer?
Definitely not fine or the extra forces will snap you in half as you try to move around. Smaller makes good sense though.
To provide proper support, bone cross-section must increase directly with weight. Weight is the product of mass and gravity, so bone diameter must be proportional to the square root of gravity.
Let’s apply this to man. The typical human femur, the most perfectly cylindrical and largest single bone in our bodies, measures 3.5 centimeters in diameter. Using the above square-root relation, we find that the thigh-bone should increase to 4.9 cm on a two-gee world or shrink to 1.6 cm on a 0.2-gee planet for identical support of a 70 kg human body mass. Experiments have confirmed that animals reared in high gravity grow thicker bones, stronger hearts, and lose fat
That’s science and shit yo!
What do you do for living lol
he works for the Mechanicum 😉
nice bags
like the moley
I never thought I’d consider battlefoam but my collection is sprawling all over the place! Maybe it’s time to think about it!
The bags look very good
Nice give away !
A good bag is what I need.
Liking the sounds of BOW gaming day for 40k.
Didn’t think i’d enjoy this show today ( due to it’s content ) but it was actually a lot of fun. Bit gutted about next week but if you want to, you can make up for it by finally posting the Deadzone game. ( Hint, hint. ) 😀
Also. On the whole I do love Battlefoam stuff. But holy christ they are far, far to expensive for what you get.
Great show guys again. Yes Napoleonic’s love the period, yes lots of errors in your discussion, but I do not care about that as it is a learning journey!
Playing, learning and having fun is what it gaming should be about.
Facts and figures are relevant to history and let’s not forget it really happened! All tribute to those that sacrificed so much from all nations.
But gaming is as commented on, is picking up the baton of “what if” as well as re-enactment of facts using the tactics of the day.
I’m gonna sit down and paint som Soulhunters for my Cryx, this will be the perfect video to have on in the background. ^^
Another great show guys. Will be sitting down to read the Dust rules later today.
Mess that AT-AT back up please.
They should make the AT-AT the official BoW dog and move it around for each show.
I actually know more about Napoleon now then I did before. Got a bit of a knowledge gap when it comes to napoleonistic history
You know that reputation you have, @warzan? You don’t have that reputation anymore lol. If that doesn’t inspire someone to try historical gaming, nothing will.
Getting closer to backstaging every day!
Well worth it IMO. Join us! 😉
Resistance is futile…
Warren, Black Powder and Albion Triumphant Vol 2 supplement from Warlord Games should satiate your Napoleonic square-forming needs.
Well, a new bag could be handy. 😛
this is cool 🙂
Great weekender as always. Like the history lesson thrown in at the end.
On the subject of wargamming and history the Prussian military used to wargame, as most armies do nowadays, before any battle and during training. The officers would take the roles of bluefor (friendly), Redfor(enemy), and whitefor(civilian). They would then be given a scenario and would play out the scenario with a senior officer as the referee. All actions would be carried out but they would use a dice to simulate effects, such as weather, moral of troops, supply issues, and reactions of civillians. All leading to each side to re think their strategy and tactics. So as you mentioned the Prussian military was so effective, it was due to this officer training. They could react much more efficiently to any scenario as they had run through most random eventualities by the use of wargamming. Modern times we don’t use dice anymore just use the “what if…” Factor.
You can buy the Dust pre-paints in different styles.
Thank you for fixing the AT-AT – was grinding me also 😉
Cheers Warren
Epic Avatar! My favorite character from RoTJ, and probably the only thing that saved the second half of that movie. 🙂
I can always do with more bags for my minatures. Liked the talk about Waterloo at the end, maybe in depth discussions of other battles can become an item on the show, or its own little bit.
Loving the PACK bag, on the 40K campaign and Mantic Terrain, how about a grand finale game at Salute next year? a big participation game?
Saying that Mac @SLW hinted at a napoleon theme to salute 15….
To me the AT-AT now looks like a cow… *G*
There was an option in the Arcadia Quest Kickstarter for prepainted minis. The quality was a quick block color scheme that makes the minis look like mass market toys. Dust is leaps and bounds beyond in prepaints.
Then again, based on the past few months of updates from the Robotech Kickstarter, at least the Arcadia Quest minis are well made and beautiful even before the primer. With Robotech, I fear that the game will be still born based on the quality of the minis that we’ve seen so far. It is amazing the differences between mini based games on Kickstarter and the wide variances in quality from different established companies.
I always imagined that the AT-AT was getting a drink of water.
Taking a drink of water is exactly what I thought the AT-AT was doing! XD
Bagsey the green one
Just because:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yKv45X_OIo
Marshal Ney where the guy who charged the Cavalry at Waterloo – @warzan try to watch the Waterloo movie with Rod Steiger – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/?ref_=nv_sr_2
its up on Youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZIOP6N4NU
you can watch it on Youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZIOP6N4NU
I’d love to say I need more battlefoam to protect my painted miniatures but, like most, it’ll be to protect all my half painted, just primed, and only just glued together minis!
Now the AT-AT looks like it is having a sh1t
All good, Justin is close enough to pooper scooper it!
Great history lesson. Warren, did you know many of the imperial guard were forcibly conscripted from the Wendish nation? Interesting history, since many of them buggered off from Europe and came to Aussie.
at first I was thinking: one hour fourty????? But when it ended, I was quite surprised… had it been that long already???
Looks like this is turning into a “historical” year for Warren.. considering we’ve got the WW1 anniversary coming up next month too.
Another great show guys and a bonus history lesson too 😉
Now we just need some Ork models done up in Napoleonic style 😀
Although you can pair up the BF bag with gear from manufactures like Eagle Industries, Blackhawk, Tactical Tailor and the like, there is a reasonable argument to be made that the stuff is over-engineered – and thus, overpriced – if you just want to carry around some dice and miniatures. There is a really good range of MOLLE pouches (it’s okay Warren, you can pronounce it “Molly” like the rest of us :D) available that have been designed for use by airsofters where there have been compromises in material and build quality* but also in price. See this for an example: http://www.ebairsoft.com/combat-gear-pouch-c-62_28.html
In addition, Maxpedition makes a lot of MOLLE based gear that is designed more for the civilian market. It’s extremely well made but none of their pouches have MOLLE straps on the back – you’ll need to buy some of their TacTies to attach the pouches to your BF bag.
* ..which is to say, dropping from A+ quality levels (Eagle), past B quality levels (BF bags), down to C+ quality levels (probably about the same as the BF MOLLE pouches)
In addition, there are thousands of surplus stores, at least here in the US, full of MOLLE packs, add-ons and accessories that are for sale pretty cheap. Depending on the store, some of these are specifically for the market (i.e. not military wares, but civilian quality) to keep prices down, but they all work on the same system.
Napoleonics did interest me a few years back, but the sheer number of infantry you have to paint is a bit off putting.
Also, on the use of the DUST Steel Guards.. genius! I really love those and they are the reason I am struggle to choose between SSU and the Axis. I really like the SSU troops and the Steel Guard – and their helicopters! – but I detest the tanks and am ambivalent about the walkers. The Axis walkers are amazing, the troops are okay but… no helicopters. Booo!
@warzan Why not modify one of the DUST Airborne Walker Transports to ferry in your Steel Guard? Alternatively, I know BoW has previewed a bulkier, more 40k-like aircraft designed to transport a large shipping container (though the manufacturer escapes me right now). You could attach harnesses on the underside of the cargo section (perhaps with magnets!) to carry in those Steel Guard.
Nice show
I’ll give you 6/10 for history Warren
The Imperial guard was split into 3 groups Old, Middle and Young The Old Guard being made up of troops that had distinguished themselves in Napoleons earliest Campaigns, The Middle Guard being made up of troops from the 1805-1809 campaign and the young guard being made up of troops that were the best and brightest of the new recruits, some Chassaur regiments were raised for the 100 days campaign only
Alucard…If you want Orcs in Napoleonic uniforms then have a look at Flintloque
Marshall Ney was the only General after the battle that was sentenced to death for being a traitor to the new French King, though there was a French man dying in Louisiana some 20 years later who looked a lot like Ney and had scars on his body in the exact places where Ney had been wounded during the wars. There were rumours that Wellington couldn’t bear to see a noble general treated badly and had the execution faked…No proof for this whatsoever though
As an aside the out of the 67,000 Allied troops at Waterloo only 25,000 were British and only 7,000 of these were Peninsular veterans, Wellington was very concerned about in inexperience of his force
As for tactics the battle was a column v line affair though the massed columns of the French were a later affair then conscripts were being hurried into the army. Napoleons usual tactic was to advance in regimental columns then when the armies came into range the front few lines would spread out into line to give maximum firepower against the enemy
The bags do look good.
awesome t-shirt Justin !
Have to say I love battle foam, and i need some foam for my big daemons! I met the guys from prodos and got some bits – not convinced by their cast quality and lack of instructions tbh. Would happily be proven wrong.
The Privateer tournament bag looks good as a second bag if you’re needing to transport a couple of huge-based models alongside your main bag. I may well be considering one for that purpose – use the standard bag for warjacks/units/solos, then two big pieces of foam in the second bag.
Totally shameless post to say “Gimme da 40k bag!!!” 😀
Warren don’t forget about Sharpe, Damn fine series based mostly around the Napoleonic period.
Oh yeah, are the chimaera’s still amphibious? Sounds perfect for a water world.
John mentioned Monty and Rommel (everyone knows Monty – he’s one of the Montgomerys from Moville in County Donegal).
Rommel had his flaws but one thing seems to get missed most of the time by those who like to point out those flaws, especially in the context of the North African campaign.
Rommel always fought at a disadvantage, in numbers (of everything!) and tonnage of supplies and equipment. His lines of communication were being interdicted constantly and the Allies had access to enough of the German communications that they had a fair idea of what was going on. There are numerous examples of how this imbalance meant that effectively Rommel was in a war of attrition that he could never have won as long as his opponents could keep throwing or emplacing people and machines in his path, and that is what they did. Max Hastings, Basil Liddell Hart and many others indicate how Rommel’s activities were a sideshow while Hitler threw the bulk of his forces against the Soviet Union, but the desert campaign was the only place where the Allies could fight the Axis on the ground so they put much more into it – examples quoted are that Monty had twice as many replacement tanks waiting in reserve as Rommel had on the battlefield (where Monty outnumbered, outgunned and outweighed him anyway). The entire North African campaign was an attempt to save Mussolini from defeat after his forces were defeated twice (in Libya and Abyssinia). The long term plan for taking the Mediterranean involved seizing Gibraltar and Malta (neither of which happened because Adolf was fixated on defeating Stalin). I could ramble on but credit where credit is due. Monty and other senior British officers were annoyed that among the Eighth Army, doing something clever and succeeding became known as ‘doing a Rommel’.
Basil Liddell-Hart wrote a book called ‘The Other Side of the Hill’ which I thoroughly recommend to anyone with an interest or study of WW2. He interviewed German officers after the war to gain an insight in why certain decisions were taken, and based on what information at the time. He was asked who he most regretted not being able to interview, and the answer was ‘Rommel’.
love napoleonics always painting them and so on.
there are some nice skirmisher games out there as well as the big battle style games
Love your Imperial Navy, don’t know about the ‘Vanity case’ though! Lol.
Cracking show… made me want to re-watch all of Sharpe – time to rummage around and dig out the DVD’s
Just for reference the film Barry Lyndon is set during the Seven Years War not the Napoleonic Wars
Out of curiosity is there really much difference in the tactics and ‘feel’ pf the battle scenes?
Seven Years War was a much more linear type of warfare everyone fighting in line. There are some subtle change in regards to firing by platoons and the number of ranks used, but what Barry Lyndon does well is show how close the armies got to each other before firing their volleys. In that regards it was a still a bloody slaughter
Hell yeah, Sharpes! Sean Bean lives for a change! 🙂
a new bag would be great, good luck every one.
Nice weekender as usual, I like those bags – the PP Tournament one especially
may have to look a little further into Battlefoam
Great video guys. Cannot recommend Battlefoam highly enough, I have a pack 432 and its a great product.
I love the idea of historicals in that I think the painted armies are probably the most impressive tabletop armies there are, but painting them is something I know I wouldnt have time for.
Great episode guys.
Warren OMG a history buff now, and taking on Napoleonic’s brave man as it is huge subject. Warren if you where taken back with the tactics used, don’t look up Forlorn Hope as used in places like the storming of Badajoz in the Peninsular War (part of the Napoleonic Wars).
The Dust stuff is just getting better and better, the pre painted models are so cool, looking forward to Dust to Dust videos. The Molle system added to the Battlefoam bags is a cool idea.
As this was a monster long episode today, it got me out of cooking breakfast and for a change got the breakfast cooked for me. As I said I cannot cook the breakfast as I am watching the “weekender” ;).
Napoleonics is indeed a very big subject to jump into. Almost 20 years of almost constant warfare across three continents? the history is reasonably well-documented, so the games are highly detailed? Most the battles are so large (Austerlitz, Waterloo, Borodino) . . . for a newcomer it can be tough to find a starting point.
Love the history stuff would really like to see you do Warlord Games Black Powder rules for the Napoleonic games.
hi all
those model from anvil industry are they the Republic Grenadiers?They look super cool might want to add a squad to my imperial guard army. Wouldnt minded winning that battle form p.a.c.k. 432 molle bag to carry them in. Battle form is all A’s went it come to transporting minis.
I’ve been saving up to get one of their bag for some time now just so many option it crazy.
Regarding Napoleonics I think you would enjoy the Peninsular War in Spain and Portugal, small to medium size battles, guerrilla warfare for skirmish encounters and some exotic looking Spanish Regiments too. The British under generals Moore and Later Wellington nurtured the Portuguese army and moulded them into a very effective force that fought alongside the British throughout the campaign. Well worth looking into.
Love both bags.
Is the AT-AT bowing to Warren, or staring at/ shooting at his privates?
Mmmmm Battlefoam
I liked the At-At the other way
Nice show guys.
The bags sure look nice and handy.
I would be really interrested in seeing you have a go at napoleonic.
The fort and gatehouse at 55:18 is mine! I’m planning on working on painting all that for the competition.
I’m going to have to rebuild the fort itself again though. – I took it apart recently for my Nexus Psi campaign. However, I’m considering getting some extra terrain to make it look bigger and better! – On top of the ruined bits I’m getting in part 2 of the kickstarter…
I’ve taken more interest in historical wargaming too lately. Lots of good plastic kits which are VERY good prices for a lot of stuff (Warlord being a prime example) makes it very tempting for me. Of course, there are so many rulesets out there – your historical army should never get boring either.
Loved the show!
If anyone wants to have a go at Napoleonics but on a small scale have a look at the South American Wars of Liberation and Simon Bolivar…Some very small battles but still have the same feel as a larger European engagement
http://www.grenadierproductions.com/
Damn, you know . . . I NEVER thought of that. Talk about battles that aren’t written/discussed/gamed enough. 🙂 Great comment!
Excellent show! Thanks guys!
Fascinating topics. Looking forward to hearing more in future episodes.
i realy love there bags For Napoleonics they were my first love theres notheing like playing in a battle with over 15000 minis on the board I ran that for the battle of Liepzieg that was a fun game
As Warren mentioned using 40k rules for Napoleonic type re enactment.
Did you know that Rick priestly worked at the Wargame Research Group, writing rules for historical war games before joining GW?
And his work on ‘War game rules ‘1645-1845’ covering the Napoleonic time line.
Were the basis of his original rules ideas for WHFB.
And these game mechanics and resolution methods are still being used in 40k 7th ed!
There are so many great rule sets out there .
Fictional settings or historical, if the game play is good it is a good game IMO.
I am so glad Warren is starting to appreciate non fictional settings more.
More games =more fun!
PS .The poor accuracy with muskets had more to do with human nature and the fog of war, than accuracy of the weapons.
”Try loading aiming and shooting at a man 100 yards away,when you are shaking with fear, blinded by gun smoke and deafened by the roar of the cannons, and the screaming of the fallen.”
What does a Napoleonic Army (3 divisions.)Look like on the same scale as 40k ?(1 to 1).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqLoLKlbVuU
Be inspired!
Oh shit! How many battle foam bags would it take to pack up this army?
It would be awesome if the 40k campaign you plan could be interactive in a way. If we (viewers) could vote in comments or on the site for the next “event”, either from a series of pre-made options or from our own options. I.e. you have an invasion on the oceanic world, so the battle is either won or lost and then the next step could be voted upon by the community. It would have this interactive tv show feel. Of course, if it is possible to manage with the recordings and editing…
I hope many people jump on Dust. It’s a great game with some of the coolest miniatures out there. The game deserves a lot more attention.
Great show as always ,love the idea of the of the pack molle combination and as always great dust coverage . Time to up my pledge me thinks on kickstarter
Wow! The possibility of winning a Battle Foam Bag great! Not a bad show keep up the good work guys.
That was brilliant. Great episode.
all that stuff from the beginning until your project was a bit to long Warren,and Co. I know that part of your budget is coming from adverts but it takes a bit long, al-thou I did enjoyed it especially that I am thinking about buying one of the battle foam products. it is nice to watch honest review – just not that long. cheers guys.
“For free?!” – Was that John Lithgow in Santa Claus: The Movie? (Is it bad I know that?)
I love the weekender!!!!
Great Weekender guys, keep up the great work! Speaking of Battlefoam, love my P.A.C.K. 720, though I picked it up before they added the MOLLE system. Even so, I have way more minis than a single 720 will hold, so a 432 would come in very handy, indeed!
really enjoyed the show, I’m going to have to check out the Dust pre paints
I just tried Warzone last month, I play the Cybertronic !
Most people find Napoleonic wargaming boring and that you have to be a real history buff to enjoy it, but they couldn’t be more wrong.
I played 40k for a number of years and even though I had a kean interest in history I never ventured into historical. an till I watch the film waterloo which really caught my imagination, I then went on to discover the plastic sets from victrix and perry and I have never looked back and now play a range of historical games and still play sci-fi and fantasy games at the same time.
Waterloo has to be one of the most interesting battles around, with some amazing feats of bravery. take hougoumont the british cold stream guards held this manor house all day with just 4’000 men against a whole french corp of 24’000 men, they still didn’t surrender the manor house even though it was engulfed in flames and with men were being burnt alive.
my favourite moment has to be when the old guard was surrounded and asked to surrender there reply ” the old guard dies, it never surrenders” the british reply was to blast them at point blank range with 20 cannon. Now that sounds like something out of a space marine novel to me.
Warren If you ever wants some advice on getting started with the napoleonic wars I can help as I’ve been there myself and I know it can be a bit overwhelming.
It was Marshal Ney who confronted Napoleon and went over to the other side and also commanded the cavalry charges. He was a serious veteran and a very brave soldier.
I think this film (link below) captures the time and scale of this remarkable battle pretty well if you can still lay your hands on it. It shows how Wellington chose his ground months in advance. He knew this battle might happen. Wellington notably said at the time, “It was was a close run thing”. It was won by a sliver.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/?ref_=nv_sr_2
To be fair it was not just English troops. There were Scottish highlanders, Irish Enniskillens, Dutch Jaegers, and Prussians. It was quite the grand coalition. Napoleon was considered that dangerous.
The buildings were La Haye Saint and Hougemont.
Glad to see your interest in history developing and your enthusiasm really comes over. It’s great to hear this sort of stuff on BoW. We can get to the ancients as well maybe. 😎
Great show guys.
That “good mornin!” from Warren is so great! It’s like a best buddy greeting you each weekend, nefore you sit down for an interesting chat about all things tabletop.
I got confused a little at first with the Weekender, I asked myself “Is it live?”. No, that’s Turn 8, which who knows it might return one day? Thanks guys, and take care.*
*Try not to pull Justins leg too much, eh?
Nice work as always, gents. You might be interested, however, in taking a look at the following map:
http://www.mappery.com/map-of/Napoleon’s-Invasion-of-Russia-Map
As you can see, Napoleon’s army wasn’t killed during the winter months in Russia (it was half its size by the time it made it to Moscow); it dwindled primarily due to the lack of supplies, disease and other factors
how bad must warren look like in the bath when even his own wife wont go all the way in to give him a book?
well guess ill never win anything now but ill stand by my comment
he he
Good looking battlefoam, about napolionic, would you not use fantasy army , much more easy than 40K,
Awesome, Warren! Welcome to the world of military history!
Re: Napoleonic tactics – In addition to the firepower issues and accuracy issues, another major reason armies of the day had to deploy the way they did was command and control. I posted heavily about this earlier so I won’t re-post the whole thing, But …
The communication tech of the day was basically non-existent. Like John says, the only way to command was battle was to be there. For company, battalion, and brigade commander, packing men together like that was the only way to control significant numbers in a day when horns, fife, drums, flags, and yelling were your only “internet.”
All that said, once technology took a couple of relatively small steps forward, we see the casualty rates even in small battles go through the roof (American Civil War, Prussian Unification, Franco-Prussian War, etc.). Post Industrial Revolution armies were still using Napoleonic tactics, and yes . . . then the tactics were true insanity and changed in most armies. This is why so many late American Civil War battlefields bear an uncanny resemblance to World War I trenches.
Those bags are looking good!
Great Show, pre-painted dust model is really nice.
Also love the history lesson, even if some of it was a bit iffy. Napoleon was only on the Island of Elba for a year, having been forced to abdicate after the allied nations finally invaded France in 1813/14, returning in early 1815 to begin the 100 days leading up to Waterloo.
And even though Wellington was a member of the nobility, his troops, especially the British troops, loved him, he had a reputation of never wasting the lives of his men needlessly or putting them in danger unless it was necessary, unlike Napoleon or most other generals of the time. Case in point as Warren mentioned, he had large portions of his troops deployed behind a hill to cover them from cannon fire, most other generals of the time felt this was a cowardly tactic and refused to do likewise.
Ironically Waterloo doesn’t really highlight Wellingtons abilities, being a defensive battle, he was in fact an excellent offensive general, the best example of this being the battle of Assaye in 1803. Although Waterloo does show his ability to read the ebb and flow of battle, knowing when to switch from defence to attack, i.e. charging and breaking the Imperial Guard, shattering the French armies resolve.
Indeed @jenisand . And the Franco-Prussian War was 1870-71, not 1780-81 (I think they just misspoke).
Hey, they’re seeing the light, and stepping their first steps into a brave new world. 🙂 Kudos to @johnlyons , who sat there politely the whole time. I think he’s a Napoleonics reenactor as well (??) so he definitely knows his sh*t on those wars as well.
Totally agree about Wellington. I think he is often unfairly depicted, the “scum of the earth” quote is often used to show wellington’s character, but it often misses off the second line “but what fine fellows we have made them” (don’t quite remember the exact words)- Wellington definitely knew the value of his infantry. Unfortunately, whilst hilarious, I don’t think the Blackadder depiction helps!
Holy mama. That was tons of Napoleon. I was not expecting that. Bravo!
Watch out. I hear @warzan has been contracted to host the next season of “Battlefield Walks” TV documentary. 🙂
@johnlyons –
I was interested (and a little vindicated) to hear your aside about Montgomery and Rommel at El Alamein. Too many would-be historians and TV documentaries (and let’s face it, gamers) oversimplify this by saying that the Eighth Army defeated Rommel’s oft-repeated turn around the left flank simply through Auchinleck’s deployment of that flank braced against the Qatarra Depression (probably not spelling that right 🙂 ).
But Rommel still tried to turn that wing by squeezing between the Qatarra Depression and the Commonwealth south wing (I think 7th Armored held that gap). But Montgomery suspected Rommel would try this and deployed strong armored forces in the region to stop and counterattack the move, resulting in the Battle of Alam Halfa. So as you say, Rommel had “gone to well once too often” with this tactic, and Montgomery sensed it was coming.
So thank you! A lot of times on sites like this, battles and campaigns get boiled down a little too much in oversimplified “military mythology.” Keep ’em honest, John! Between you and “Dr. Dave,” it’s up to you to represent us!
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Eurotunnel, the greatest example of Brits and the Frogs getting on an putting the past behind them, thats why the Eurostar pulls into London Waterloo.
Well it did until last year when they finished the new terminal at Kings Cross.
This was again a great show. I enjoyed the Dust bit, but the historical discussion was definately my favorite.
I would love to see a high quality Napoleonic fantasy game. Everyone is always going for dark age Tolkienesc type stuff. I’d like to see Napoleonic monstrous cavalry or dragon riders.
Have you seen a game called flintloque. It has fantasy archetypes in Napoleonic uniform. http://www.alternative-armies.com/Flintloque.htm
More minis-transporting bag is never a bad thing.. 😀
@ Justin. I’ve arranged a gift for you with Rob from Prodos for you to pick up at QCon. Make sure you ask him for your present from cybermonkey/Paul Rist! Have a great weekend next week and enjoy AvP and Warzone 🙂
Paul
ok cool bud 🙂
Was looking for a new bag. This might be a nice change to get a nice 1
Both bags are great. Something I found out about muskets is that the residue from black powder would build up in them so badly that eventually they would become so clogged it would be almost impossible to load them. One way they tried to work around this was issue balls much smaller than the bore of the barrel.
Great show as always guys!
I love the BF bags too bad I can’t afford them. I use magnets on my minis… hah, probably spent more in magnets by now than a large bag.
Nice episode of the weekender this week, Brill!
Great show guys.
With regards to the 40k stuff. I’m definitely interested in a day/weekend meet-up where we have the climax to the campaign (whether that would be one massive game, or multiple smaller games I don’t know), especially if its in the Midlands area.
BTW, Stourbridge is pronounced with the “Stour” part similar to “flower”, so it would be “Stower-bridge”, although its spelt “Stourbridge”. Isn’t English great? 😀
Epic weekender! 🙂
I always liked the Ogryns, especially the older Ogryn’s faces. But, I realised that the masks on the new ones reminded me of Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, so I’d build and paint them up around that theme. I do like those Anvil Industries Halo-like minis and the SSU; they all looked good in blue. 🙂
I don’t understand why Ben’s slots on his bases weren’t just filled in with a piece of sprue, or an offcut of plasticicard!Come on Ben, it only takes a few seconds to do! 😛
Nice bit of history there – I’d like to see John talking about it more like in the old days (Old days? T’was only a couple of years ago wasn’t it?!).
I can’t wait to see more Dust stuff. I wish the pdf rulebook didn’t have the BoW watermark all over, although it is handy to not have to print out each section of the pdf’s Dust themselves are putting out. The watermark does make it irritating to read though. I think I’ll just buy the rule book and save myself some ink and paper!
I liked the Battle Foam bag, but I’ve heard a lot of complaints about the foam scratching the paint off metal minis, so I’ve been looking at what KR Multicase have to offer instead. I guess I could put the softer KR foam into the tougher, plastic lined Battle Foam bags and have the best of both worlds, lol! Although people do seem happy with the durability of KR’s cases.
I’m looking forward to XLBS now, I hope it’s just as epic. Ah, I know it will be. 😉
Awesome stuff again guys!
Listening to Warren waxing lyrical about Napoleonics was great. I don’t care if his knowledge is not up to speed just to hear someone get excited and caught up in the flavour of a period, prepared to do a bit of reading, is all music to me.
Warren, I genuinely think you should waffle on about history more often! I actually enjoyed listening to your portrayal of Napoleonics!
Thanks for another great show guys!
http://youtu.be/IFpFHj4XfFg
There is a link to the battle of Camden from the film ‘The Patriot’ whilst it’s from the American war of Independence it does illustrate graphically the effect of two armies slugging it out toe to toe. And the use of cavalry once the American infantry have routed.
Another great show guys!
It is great to see Warren enthused about Dust – not that he’s lacking in the enthusiasm department for games generally! – as this game deserve a re-birth. The first thing I posted after joining Backstage a couple of years back was about Dust Warfare. My gaming friends and I have played it more than any other system between then and now, and I would love to see Dust – in whichever form – reach a wider audience. I have high hopes for Dust Battlefield – and cannot wait to check out a free PDF of the rules.
Friend has the PACK 422 bag and it is very nice!
I could always use more army cases.
Got to admit those are two nice bags. Probably prefer the PACK for its versatility ;0)
Warren made the impossible : I heard 30 mins of Napoleonic battles info without yawning, fastforward or anything else… and i actually liked it! Probably i’m never gonna play it but i have a lot more respect for it now.
Talking about Dust, i’m about to jump into it and i like the fact they added terraint to the 60 and 100 bucks pledge, that makes it a lot more unpack & play
By the way : Ben Basing Challenge == BBC ?!
Looking forward to Q-Con myself. Running demos for 1-48 Combat. Why not drop by and have a go guys?
Another great weekender, not sure what I’ll do next week! Loved the Napoleonic bit, I’ve never played that era but would love too. I think its the look of the table when you’ve got fully painted regiments ready to go that draws me in, having said that the thought of painting all those figures is the stuff of nightmares!
Afternoon all, Fantastic weekender (as usual). Quick question about the Battlezone competition. Can we ‘only’ use components from the mantic battlezone range (or can it be customised with other materials / pieces)?
Did you want to try and tie the scenery build competition into your 40k campaign. Winners of comp could get free ticket to 40k day or something (on the condition that they bring their scenery for the field!).
I’ve used BattleFoam for Dust Tactics and it is really nice. Still think it’s a bit spendy, but the KR stuff is a bit too blue 🙂
Great Weekend. Looking forward to 40k and Will look at helping at with it
Warren if your interested into getting into Napoleonics I would recommend that you start of small something like the Battle of Corunna in Spain, the French troops will be able to be used in some of the big battles in Central Europe and it wont be too much big an ask to start painting a small number of troops
Miniature ER was great seeing how a ‘little’ skill can recover a mini. Did Justin really volunteer his miniatures to Romain or were they kindly acquired and passed on? 😉
Must have battlefoam just bought every release up to Babylon of the allies and axis for dust tactics and I have nothing to store them in really needs my battlefoam!
mmmmmmm Battle Foam, nice
I’d love to win the bag. I got X-Wing and Battletech minis to store.
Oh those bags look so nice! way better than the briefcases at the GW store where i usually buy stuff. As a newcomer to the hobby im having a blast browsing this site and learning about all the stuff and options that are out there. Keep up the good work!
I really enjoyed this edition of the weekender. Editing was excellent. Anvil miniatures are a good choice for spec ops troops. Their custom kits are superb.
I visited a Napoleonic’s gaming club many years ago and was put off by the seriously grim atmosphere produced by some of the authentication zealots. I will always remember one player standing up to shout in his best Shakespearean voice “How dare you Sir, the light infantry certainly did not advance at that point in the battle!’
Could anyone tell me if things have changed? just curious.
I can’t tell you if that club or that person has changed. I can tell you that most historical gamers are not like that.
I think you find idiots in any period or genre you play. whether it be historical fantasy or SciFi
redben,
I used to be a historical gamer myself years ago so I agree, most historical gamers are not like that. If I offended anyone than I apologise. When I did play historic I played ancients and yes some of my fellow players were serious about their games but nothing like these guys. They were the Taliban of table top war gamers. This group was my first experience of a club that was focused exclusively on the Napoleonic era where historical accuracy was paramount and played with an obsessive attention to detail. I think they would have been aghast if I suggested they lightened up. Anyhow, if you say Napoleonic clubs are not like that then you have corrected a misunderstanding I have had for a long time and what I experienced was atypical. On the plus side; their miniatures were exquisite.
Amazing Warren on the Napoleonic wars. Whatever next. Absolutely stunning.
Great show guys! I enjoyed the (somewhat inaccurate) historical discussion. Pertaining to the talk of Napoleonics a la 40K, I think a show that illustrates how different historical battles can be used in your fantasy/sci-fi games (with a few rules tweaks) would be great.
Great show. Warren Imperial Guards are starting to look great (refuse to call them anything ellse).
I do love my Ogryn’s, but I prefer the old goofy ones.
That Pack 432 looks very, very nice.
astra Militarium (almost threw up in my mouth) are looking nice. Campaign sounds interesting may get involved in some events
Thanks for the history lesson Warren.
Great Video, @warzan If your interested in Napoleonic Wars get in touch NW is awesome setting and I love that its getting you interested in history. I am just getting into Black Powder (Warlord games) and I think its great
Hey Warren, take a look at Wargames Handbook, Third Edition: How to Play and Design Commercial and Professional Wargames by James Dunnigan. It’ll give you a glimpse of how wargaming interests can be shaped by age. [Comment to your comment about Napoleonics].
another great show guys.
If the ogryn’s come from heavy grav systems did they come from the same planets at the galactic centre as the squats? Who have miserably disappeared?
Also wellington picked waterloo because he stopped their returning from an earlier battle? and documented it as a good area for a defensive battle.
Some lovely bags, and preferred the AT-AT the other way!
Looks like that AT-AT is about to lay down and mourn another downed AT-AT
how do I know if I win? I never get told.
Went to the Durham Wargames show this morning , came back with plenty of ACW Perry miniatures , bunch from Pendraken’s Falklands and Zombies ranges , many goodies from colonel bill , loving my historics muchos these days (Not as much as the Burrito in the oven though !)
That 422 looks really nice
Battle foam is great stuff. Nice talk on waterloo. Got to remember that we were still marching on gun lines in ww1 so the tactic was around a while.
Enjoyed your show like always and would like to suggest a ruleset that I think will grab your interest in Napoleonics. The rulebook was published in 2011 by the now defunct ‘Warhammer Historical Wargames’, the book was called ‘Waterloo; Tabletop Wargaming in the age of Napoleon’ and written by Mark Latham. It is based around the WOTR system by GW and has to be the nicest Wargaming books out there. Rules are fun and not too serious and there is everything in that book to get you started. Track down a copy and happy gaming.
I have also played the WH Naopleonic rules (got them in the 50% sale). They are a great rule set for those of us with a GW background. Unfortunately, as with all the warhammer historical rules, they are now out of production, but if you can get a copy I’d highly recommend it even for just the eye candy. It has pape after page of photos of the Perry’s amazing collection and waterloo board. I’ve spent hours pouring over them. Do be careful though, it is extremely inspiring!!
Another great weekender, cheers for the continued efforts guys. 🙂
Nice prize of the Battlefoam bags btw, just starting a Journeyman league, and whilst not 100% necessary (as have 14 BF bags atm, and love them all like they were my own little children) the PP one would be awesome, especially if it comes with a little cute robotic squire. 😛
As always a fount of wonderful information… Great show guys!
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Very sad that there won’t be a weekender next week. I’ll be lost without it.
Have a great holiday guys.
Love Battlefoam’s stuff. I just picked up their “C” bag for carting around rulebooks and such.
Dust is interesting, but I think I’d rather have the more true to life historicals though. Ironically I normally play the sci-fi and fantasy games.
Yeah, Napoleonics are really interesting. I love the Sharpe stories… Sean Bean is muy bueno! I’ve wanted to make a skirmish game with British “commandos” for ages!
Check out Napoleon at War, by Man at War. It basically takes the Flames of War model (boxed products, similar style of force organisation charts etc.) and applies it to Napoleonics. It’s a pretty cool way to play Napoleonics especially if you have no idea of how to start. The website is http://www.manatwar.es/
Also, with the Dust prepaints, they’re offered in various paint schemes based on the theatre setting from the lore. So, for example, you might have a walker painted in “Zverograd pattern” or “Babylon pattern”, but not necessarily both. They do look amazing, but I prefer to paint my own minis. 🙂
great show guys those bags where sweet i so need 1
I love battlefoam.
Another great episode!
I think it is cool you guys have the kind of relationship with your audience/members that you actually change the set to keep them from obsessing (about something other than gaming 😉 )
Nice show. I have always liked Battlefoam stuff but it was always the size of my budget that stopped me from buying. When you are a budget wargamer every penny counts 😀
Crikey. I wasn’t expecting the Napoleonic history lesson. Warren, you did well and I learned more than I thought I ever wanted to know about Napoleon and Waterloo.
I actually was hanging on every word thinking ‘and then what happened?’ which for me, who has (well make that “had”) no interest in that time period, is something else.
The Dust pre-painted mini looked very nice. I am sure everyone pledging at that level for the kickstarter will be happy with their pledges.
Nice show guys. Love watching it every week…..
To plan actvities for next season, why not exploring every period from the mots recent to the latest. Civil war, napoleonic, independance war and so on to finish by a skirmish game at the stone age. Great to talk historical. The quality of you work improves every week.
Definitely better show when they talk about different elements of the hobby, not just one. Something for everyone to at least comment on. I personally have KR Cases, which I cannot complain about, but either of those bags would allow me to compare.
Liked the historical bits, just shows how diverse a hobby we can have if we choose. We should never let those out in the wider world troll anyone’s choice on how they play, it is after all only a game, one to be enjoyed no matter how you do it.
Battlefoam- very nice. I don’t have one but I might need to think about it. Great show, really enjoyed the Waterloo chat. More of that please!
Hey Warren if you ever want to learn more about Waterloo or the Napoleonics in general let me know and we can organise a Skype chat or a series of Emails. I’d be very interested in talking to you about it and fixing up some of the stuff you got slightly wrong which just makes the the whole battle a lot more insane and bloodthirsty. Blucher the Prussian General you talked about was once shot Twice and ridden over by Heavy Cavalry in one battle and walked away afterwoods. Send me an email at [email protected] if you’d like to start a conversation.
The privateer bag looks great. You gotta love battlefoam.;-)
Great show !
would like to win a bag for my AT-43 army.
Nice show
Would be more than happy to be able to contribute to the 40k campaign!
Greed is only extreme necessity gone bad. I have an extremely bad necessity for foam filled storage bags.
Check out warhammer historical battles ruleset Waterloo, you should be able to get a set off ebay. They are fantastic rules and it’s full of fluff and info, the Perry’s are heavily featured through out. Will try and dig out some photos of my French.
great episode as per usual!
Nice to hear you rave about Napoleonic battles and history. I can’t believe this is not taught more in schools. If I knew all these great stories and wargaming source material was available I would have paid more attention at school. 🙂
I love you Molle!
Great show guys, you should visit Waterloo, it’s a great experience:
http://waterloo-tourisme.com/Public1/index.php/en/
Love the show love Dust lo e the bags….
Not jumping through all the comments, but would agree with two comments:
Slaughterloo, the first game to move me away from Warhammer. Sharke and his men looked great. Never forget the British Baker Rifle at Waterloo and other battles did make a difference with an potential range (from a good shot) of 400 yards and they were the first British regiment to show that green was a good colour to hide with.
Sharpe – kind of links with Slaughterloo, but if you haven’t read Bernard Cornwall’s Sharpe series do so. The TV series were good and I enjoyed them but the books were much much better.
Finally you’ll find that the Dutch stood alongside the British at Waterloo whilst awaiting the arrival of the Prussians.
Battle foam!
Battlezone challenge accepted! I’m clippoing my terrain pieces while watching this show.
A global narrative campaign sounds great. I might be up to attend a big concluding battle if I can prepare ahead of time. I’m not in the UK, so traveling and lodgings would take some money and planning.
Loved the (not so) short history lesson, especially from Warren. You might do more of these segments for either real or imaginary histories.
Awesome as ever
If you want to see some large Nepoloinic battles using the Black Powder rules, check out thehallofheroes au. On their facebook they have some of the photos of the Battle of Gettysburg and Battle of Borodino that was run as a participation weekend.
When you need 30 6×2 foot sections to make your battlefield your’re getting the scale right.
i’ll probably have to pick up a case for my Malifaux, those minis are just so fragile I hate traveling with them
haa I’m in need of a new bag^^
too much mini around home ^^
Loved your thoughts on battlefoam, I plan on acquiring a system for my orks and woodelves this winter and I think I will go with battlefoam.
great show guys!
I had heard that Napolean actually had hemorrhoids. Which was the reason why he couldn’t be at the battlefield on the day of the battle of Waterloo. And yes, I realize that you did not want to know that 🙂
What I think is funny in all this is that in my gaming club, people tend to agree that 40K actually uses Napoleonic tactics to a big degree. You walk one block to the front and shoot, then the other player walks his block to the front and shoots. Rince, repeat. In that point, Infinity is much more like a modern battle, with people constantly ducking from cover to cover until they get a good shot.
Just started listening to the weekenders again, I am really enjoying them.
recent member and subscriber and I got to say your stuff is brilliant
great show as always guys!
I would love to see BoW explore some Napoleonics. I had what you described as a “hobby moment” with this. I always thought is was stupid until I saw a lot of it at some conventions and even had a demo game (Field of Glory rules). And I realised I really liked it.
Btw: Beards are awesom!
Love the PP Bag from BF.
I was just looking at buying a new army case. Maybe I’ll win one instead!
Reading about Wellington if you want to read something read the Sharpe series by Bernard Cornwall.
Not sure If this has been commented before but the series takes you all through peninsular war and up to waterloo.
He even writes historical notes in the back to list the changes he has made to the facts.
Warren cheers for the Nepoleonic chat…I would love to try a Nepoleonic table top game.
After watching the Sharpe TV series…thats enough inspiration for me. This ep has made me want to get on a project.
Would love to see some more content on that genre of the industry.
Thanks for another great show, love the DUST models.
cracking show as always, and I learnt quite a bit whilst painting! good job chaps
Does anybody have experience with Battlefoam Infinity bags ? I’m looking for a storage solution and I was wondering if it was worth the (hefty) price tag.
Good show, guys !
I do like it when Warren gets passionate about a subject, you can almost see the childhood sparkle of giddy excitement in his eye, his enthusiasm is infectious, which is bloody annoying because you have no idea the amount of projects I want to start now…..
Hey guys you should look at the tyrant case from giftsforgeeks.com probably the best value case on the market right now
I can’t wait to see more of this campaign, it sounds fun. Tho I don’t think Ogryns where actually engineered like the Space Marines. I believe they evolved on planets with extreme environmental conditions from old prison and manual labor colonies. When they where rediscovered by the Imperium and it was found they descended from mankind they put them in roles they where best suited for, one of those rolls being combat. But I’m pretty positive they weren’t engineered.
love the show and the give a ways is a nice perk guys.
Really enjoyed the history portion of the show. Gave a new bit of insight to how war has progressed.
I don’t always get to watch every video on Beasts of War, but when I do there’s definitely a sleeping baby on me.
Happy Father’s Day!
Love to see an Indiana Jones type special character for Dust
Those Battlefoam bags look really nice =)
I’d be in for some more historical miniatures games coverage.
It’d be nice to see some warmachine coverage other than just ‘what’s in the box’ and unit reviews too. Maybe some narrative battles like mentioned with 40K.
Just curious Warren, but do you have a Warmachines or Hordes faction you play, or have you not gotten into it?
Give me ALL the goodies!
Another great show guys. I invested in the standard PACK 432 awhile back and and must say it was worth every penny. The standard of quality of battlefoam’s products is excellent.
That battle foam looks great, do they hav3 one for an entire Dark Angels battle company? XD
Hi all,
Thank you for a brilliant weekender show BoW. I loved that you have covered some Napoleonic features as this was how I entered the hobby back at school. As all my friends played 40k, I had a a few 1/72 plastic army. I used the old Chaos magic cards (the same size as a match box) as movement trays, stuck on with blutack.
A couple of things I thought people might be interested in that I hadn’t seen in any comments, were the stories based around the other farm complex Hougoumont. It held the British right flank and was under constant attack all day. It is a thick stoned walled complex with an orchard to its south, from where the French attacked. It was the British Guards who primarily held it, reinforced during the by further units from the ridge behind it. At one point the complex was stormed by the French, the wooden beam barring the gate smashed down by a giant pioneer wielding his wood cutting axe. The French poured in through the gates until the British commander (McDonnell I think), two other officers, and a few enlisted cut there way through to the gate, closed and then barred them with a fresh timber beam before turning on the French in the complex. The only French surviver was a child drummer boy. When Hougoumont ran out of ammunition, a desperate plea was sent out and a lone artillerymen on his ammunition cart galloped down the hill, past the French attacking, through the open gates which were slammed shut just as the French reached them. It was also here that military sense won over army hierarchy as the commanding officer was not the most senior man, but the man who had started the day in the farm and had fortified the buildings.
Elsewhere, as you mentioned on the show Warren, the cavalry attacked the British, but in a very few places they were joined by infantry and artillery. Some battalions left a perfect square of dead as the muskets and cannons, firing shrapnel, shredded the squares.
The Prince of Orange, the Dutch commander, ordered troops forward to support La Haye Sant, in line only to be over run by cavalry, something he had done in the skirmish and Quatre Bras a few days earlier. Brave but tactically completely out of his depth he would be shot later in the day, an act that arguably saved more allied soldiers from his orders.
At the end of a battle, British company commanders would walk the fields and ask each other who had died. The question asked after Waterloo was who had lived.
As an aside Miniature Wargaming ran an aar based on an alternative history with the British fighting the Austrian and Prussians priory to Napoleons return. They had a little map, there forces divided into small independent armies and they fought a campaign. No points limit, just what each player had sent to capture or defend a bridge, with sometimes reinforcements arriving mid battle. It was while I was at school so mid-late 90’s. They did another such one in the Sudan. That was even better.
Sorry for the wall of text, this is why I never post anything. Thanks for reading.
Fascinating stuff @ashjones303 thanks for sharing!
Loved the Waterloo part. My Son is named Arthur after the legendary Sir Arthur Wellesley the Duke of Wellington. My Tau are painted in the style of Napoleonic Infantry. This was what got me into wargaming in the first place. As always gents a fantastic episode.
Chicken AT-AT, I miss you already. Top hat, monocle and cigar for Warren’s History Show!
You’ll have a hard time loading a muzzleloader prone…
On the bright side – I have now filled in those base slots 😉
BoW Ben
Put me down for one of those bags.
that why I quite like the new anvil afterlife minis built in scenery on the slotta part
Napoleonics have been made easier with the release of plastic miniatures from Perry, Victrix and Warlord. Also the Black Powder rules provide for entertaining games that feel ‘right’.
I would be glad to see Beast of War cover Napoleonics as there is so much variety.
Does the D box come with Theon Greyjoy’s favourite toy?
Wow! This weekender was epic! One thing I have to add in my “collection” is some Battlefoam, I still have few models, but since I started painting them I already feel the need to protect them.
Carnevale was one of my first pick to start in the hobby, but there’s so little about the game that drove me off, now with this new edition I will see if the game is so cool as it sounds.
I don’t know much abou Waterloo, but I really love to see some historical wargaming in Beasts of War.
Bags, yes please
Awesome video, I love the History lesson!
Thanks for the history lesson. Might need to try out Napoleonic wargamming. Sounds fascinating.
As I am always buying new minis, I could also always use a new bag!
Nice episode!
B.
Warren is making me want to watch Sharpe from the start.
Those bags look really cool!
Always enjoy the Weekender. Keep it up!
awesome bags.
Really interesting episode, Warren your getting so historically knowledgeable! My Birthday is on the 18th of June! My uncle bought me loads of Waterloo models when I was a kid, I had the farmhouse too. I still have them somewhere, maybe I’ll get them out on the 18th for nostalgia!
Nice one guys!
Another awesome weekender guy’s.
Is fetching a new way of saying ugly (Just kidding) .
That Imperial Marine force looks excellent, I love the way the Dust miniatures fit in. The color look really nice and crisp, but it makes me think of Cobra Troopers… This isn’t a bad thing, think I’ve been indoctrinated at a young age.
Great looking bags actually looking at buying one for my X-wing minis.
You should look into the Warhammer ancient Rules sets. They are out of print (as with everything GW that isn’t 40K) but that work very well for 1800 combat.
Warren I loved the discussion on Waterloo.
I have to admit i know nothing about Napoleon even though I have started to take an interest in war history.
What book was it you were reading?
I will be moving house in a month and battlefoam would be very useful.
The Privateer Press bag looks great for a hobby bag as well.
well i do have my dreadball teams all over the place…..so send a bag to me please!!!!
Great show again guys!
Great show guys, loved the history lesson on waterloo
Great weekender and fantastic Dust giveaway! Mmmmm foam!
Battlefoam is seeming to put a lot of effort into product development
Warren you should watch the film Waterloo, the battle scenes give you a great idea of the scale of the thing and the numbers involved. Historically it is also fairly accurate.
Great weekender guys. Good to see you taking some interest in Waterloo.
Mark Adkin’s Waterloo companion is a great book, so you’ve definitely started in the right place. Also, if you haven’t already, do check out Sharpe (Bernard Cornwell novels or Sean Bean tv series). Yes the accuracy is a bit off sometimes, but who cares they are great adventures with a feel of the era. Sharpe got me into napoleonics, that and the obvious visual appeal.
On the subject of the armies, as someone who has painted British and French Napoleonic armies each numbering around 200 models (making good use of uni holidays when I had them) it can be overwhelming as a period, but it is so worth it when you lay them all out on the table.
If scale of game is an issue ive heard good things about “Sharp Practice” from two fat lardies- has more of the feel of Sharpe type scenarios. Some people say napoleonics is boring, but how can that be so when you have characters like Picton (who often fought with a top hat and umbrella), Lassalle (who led a cavalry charge wielding a pipe) and many more. Yes some of it is probably myth and legend, but that makes it all the more interesting.
I have seen those bags before. Wish I had the money so I could carry my plastic dudes-men around in style.
Warren if you are interested in Napoleonics the Austrians would be a good choice ‘White’ uniforms just prime and a couple of washes and voila! Seriously though I think you would learn a lot from a trip to Waterloo, you can visit the actual buildings like hougemont which they are currently trying to preserve as a memorial, the regimental badges of the defenders are on the walls, you can also visit the battlefields at Quatre Bras and Ligny nearby, and with all the Belgian beer and Chocolate what’s not to like..
I’m hoping to go for the 200th anniversary next year. Hopefully I can get a bit of time out of my PhD for it!
The minis for war zone resurrection look good. Hope you get some demo games of that going
Awesome bags….I agree w/Warren I prefer the MOLE bag, more options.
😀
Brother G
First step in getting into Napoleonic Wargaming. Watch or read stories about Richard Sharpe, Horatio Hornblower, and Jack Aubry&Steven Maturin.
Sharpe’s Rifles on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKC-KQCa3hQ
Excellent show guys – really enjoyed the history lesson!
I’ve got the Pack 1520 (the one on wheels) and could use a more compact one… BTW the backstage trial is great. Just have to convince the wife to keep the subscription
Keep up the good work guys.
That Privateer Press Tournament Bag is looking very nice
Just an absolutely amazing segment. I love the variety that is shown along with some funny moments that truly make this a show to watch. Great product expositions. I really like the Privateer Press bag myself.
You have certainly been spoiling us with all the fantastic range of prices and backstage stuff recently!
I wouldn’t mind bagging a bag, unless I’m too late.
I will need a bag for my Waterloo figures I receive from the Warlord completion!
This episode shalt be known as the historical weekender.
Storage!
Warren, you are allowed to look “rough” the stubble makes you look a man.
Agree those side pockets need to hold de-odorant spray and energy drinks, event staples.
The Pack Molle looks pretty sweet.
Always wanted to get battle foam bags but never had the available cash. Great weekender I’ll be spending today catching up on some bow goodness
Playing Menoth the privateer press bag would be brilliant for Bastions!
I love the idea of using the privateer box that was shown as a special project box. Nice one!!
Great bags. Something I am sorely missing at the moment.
I’m not sold on Dust, yes cool looking minis etc but just not sure on the long term playability of it.
Anyhow BattleFoam has to be the pinnacle of bags. Here in Aus they are stupidly expensive due to shipping a light but large box. but being the owner of two of their bags now they really are that much better than the other options I have.
Brilliant show as always chaps. I’ve rather taken by Battlefoam as the majority of my armies are now transported in plastic tubs from pound land x)