Check Out A Raging Collection Of Tough Girls!
December 10, 2013 by dracs
Did somebody call for a doctor? No? Well tough, Raging Heroes are bringing you to the tender mercies of Dr Von X as well as a whole lot of other awesome renders for the future. See what you think of this bevy of beauties.
So what do you think so far? That is a LOT of different ladies rocking some awesome models and perfect for a range of different games. BUT we're not done yet!
So I think you will agree that is an awesome collection of brilliant battle sisters! Which is going to be your lady of choice when it comes to fighting on the battlefield?
Is Raging Heroes' angel of mercy and her kin your cup of tea?
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The latest TGITG Kickstarter update has a nice look at the good(!?) Doctor’s alternate headsculpt. Less overtly sinister, but makes the whole package all the more unsettling….
I think I just fell in love with a woman in a mask who isn’t even real…. That’s it I’m going to find a psychiatrist… I wonder is she is taking clients for that too
Not real is usually what makes them better, less aggravation.
Yup. That’s exactly how I like my women. Absent.
Ahhh, an expert with chloroform then 😉 lol
Not so much “chloroform” as “penis”, but thanks, I guess…
Your welcome 🙂
Ooo matron…
Not my cup of tea. Love the teapot and cuppa, but the stupid cliched female fantasy form is a big turn off. Ironically.
Well I’m already a carry on character apparently. I wonder if she would open a practice with me… Isn’t t werid that GP places are called practices you would think by that time practice should give way to compatence
What is going on with BoW’s coverage of this Kickstarter? Another 2 month old picture posted as “news” and this time several hours after a new update. I suppose you’ll report something about this latest update around February?
@dracs Explain yourself man! 😉
For everyone else check out the rest of the amazing update here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/loudnraging/raging-heroes-the-toughest-girls-of-the-galaxy/posts/687653
Warren, I have found a handy how to guide on internet survival:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1UqH6gm6ok
Two reasons, first of all it keeps popping up as something new when I am monitoring for news. Secondly, I just thought it was cool and wanted to show it. She has a cup of tea man! A CUP OF TEA!
Okay, you’re forgiven. If it’s all about the tea, that I can understand 😉
Also should point out I was in China for two months so I missed a lot of stuff. Honestly didn’t know this was old news.
Must be a joke about all the tea in China here?
Somewhere?
nope can’t find one 🙁
It may be cliched, but its far easier on the eye than the average fat slob doing her shopping in pyjama bottoms and her Ugg boots. If I wanted reality id go outside. Being female I am the only one who can truly and honestly comment on female form 😉
“The average fat slob”
Better the “average fat slob” than a body fascist.
A woman doesn’t need to have basketball boobs to be sexy.
Trust me mate, Sarah doesn’t have basketball boobs. And if its fascist to care about your health then so be it.
I never said Sarah did have basketball boobs
Nor did I remotely suggest that it is fascist to care about health.
Being judgemental about the body shape of others while advocating the superiority of a fictional and idealised female beauty on the other hand is pretty much what body fascism is.
From Collins English Dictionary:
noun
(pejorative) intolerance of those (eg fat people), whose bodies do not conform to a particular view of what is desirable
It is possible to have an idealised form of beauty without necessarily denegrating everything which does not conform to it. An artist who produces an idealised human form is not necessarily judging anyone and throwing around words like ‘fascist’ is pretty offensive.
But why is the body fascist worse than a fat slob? It takes some real dedication to get fit/healthy, where as your Vicky pollards of the world obviously have little or no self respect for themselves, you’ve got one body and life, you’re meant to look after it, to do anything otherwise shows a total disregard for your own life. At the other extreme of things you got your anorexic super models, they have a total disregard for health, so they are as bad as the slobs Imo. I’m just intolerant of people who don’t look after themselves, you got disabled people out there who would love to have the freedom and mobility that some of these lazy gits are just wasting. Its like its now acceptable to be guilty of the sins of sloth and gluttony.
No one is going to ‘Win the Internet’ on this one, so how about we tone it down a notch or two please everyone 🙂
As someone with a magnificent body of my own (at least in its girth) I think this little conversation is not going to lead us anywhere productive 😉
“But why is the body fascist worse than a fat slob?”
Because one’s body shape is not always the choice despite what your narrow minded world view might consider it, whereas your attitude to others is purely your choice.
No one said that an idealised form in miniatures is better or worse than realism.
It is a matter of how the body is stylised. Balloon breasts says nothing good about women but a great deal about the lack of thinking in the sculptor.
@:Warzan
I don’t want to win the internet. It is a rubbish prize.
Would much rather win Summoner Wars thank you kindly.
Idealised women that don’t have silly tits 😉
@erastus well said.
Although RH say they are working on their own game system, it isn’t out yet and people will be buying these miniatures to use in other games. They have to strike a balance between the ‘heroic’ scale of certain major manufacturers and the more realistically proportioned miniatures of others. Personally I think they are doing a marvelous job of that.
Consider as well that RH are not aiming for ultra-realism. Their miniatures are basically pulp sci-fi with dieselpunk influences … and also don’t forget they are around 30mm tall. Looking at a massively blown up picture of a render is very different from looking at a 30mm miniature.
All things considered, I think these are shaping up to be some of the best female sci-fi miniatures I have ever seen.
Good grief
The design is sloppy. It is merely a parody of the feminine.
It lacks any merit being a copy of an idea that was itself an homage to a bad idea in the first place.
An artist can create an idealised form without having to slavishly resorting to other people’s concepts of the ideal. This model is the product of lazy thinking. Just as resorted to stereotypes like Vicky Pollard is lazy.
Mere parroting of what you expect people to expect is worthless.
Spoken like a true fascist. Its funny how the far left mirrors the far right.
By what tortuous thread of logic you used to consider me a fascist?
Oh, I disagree with your lack of understanding of aesthetics
I see.
That you will say whatever you feel like, no matter how offensive, to get your point across, you are just as disrespectful as those you are complaining about. You are intolerant of others thoughts and opinions if they aren’t your own and you make it abundantly clear when something differs with your views, you’re actually a very petty person and the more you post, the more people are beginning to realise it. You will reply to this because you’re the kind of simpleton that has to have the last word, makes you feel superior to everyone else doesn’t it. Prove me wrong.
What have I said that has been offensive?
I have not been disrespectful. Calling people fat slobs is both disrespectful and offensive, even more so when you attack me for pointing it out.
I have tried to discuss aesthetics and you disagree and no carry out a character assassination.
The word for such an argument is ad hominem.
At no point have I attacked you. Only disagreed with your predilection for cartoon mammaries.
“You will reply to this because you’re the kind of simpleton that has to have the last word, makes you feel superior to everyone else doesn’t it. Prove me wrong.”
This shows you have no stomach for a fair and open discussion
I have every right to defend both my position AND my character and the more you attempt to intimidate the more I will do so. That is not petty, it is standing up to a bully.
You and your cronies seem to take pleasure from mocking others. I will ALWAYS stand up against your sort. If you want to slug this out take to PMs so I can ignore you in peace.
Hah! Just you wait till I finish my WFRP character mini..
But on the topic of this model and RH’s style in general I really don’t have a problem with it. It’s odd because based on their Dark Elves I really thought I would.. but I just don’t.. and I don’t see the choice to portray their female characters this way as inherently bad (though the Kurganova’s are entirely inoffensive not-Cadians IMHO). If I want realistic, I can go to Hasslefree. If want chunky and an over-abundance of the Y chromosone I can go to GW and if I want slightly-oversexualised not-DKoK I can go to RH. I’m just happy to have the choice! 😀
It is not a question of whether a figure is stylised or not.
You have, like many others here chosen to ignore what I have actually said.
Hasslefree are not realistic
It does not make them bad sculpts.
Anima Tactics are not realistic and yet make some beautiful minis.
What I am criticising is the complete lack of artistry in sculpting breasts as balloons.
Oh I’m not ignoring you, I’d just disagreeing with you. Exaggerated boob armour might be ‘going with the trend’ and you may not like that trend, but even if that shows a lack of imagination or a preference for realism I do not believe that it makes it a bad sculpt. Not in the slightest.
..but liking something isn’t a binary state. It’s entirely possible for me to like this, AND http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=kendra~hfa031&category=miniatures~modern-adventurers AND http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=tilda~hfh071&category=miniatures~fantasy-humans AND
. I don’t really see why that’s so difficult to understand.. or is it your firm belief that if you like A, you are somehow obliged to hate B?
For the umpteenth time it is not a question of realism or idealisation.
You haven’t ignored me, just what I have been saying.
I don’t hate either. I am just bored to the back teeth of poor drawing.
And yes drawing can refer to sculpture and it does not necessarily mean something has to be realistic.
The boobs are poorly done on this figure.
You are welcome to like them all you want but it won’t improve them any.
Who said they need improving?
In your eyes, no. But hey if you really want to see badly drawn breasts, put a pencil in my hand and I’ll do a terrible job of rendering them for you. Seriously, ASCII art would do a better job of it than me. But style.. yes, I would say that style has everything to do with it. Right now this is like Dali telling Picasso that he’s doing it wrong.
Please don’t take my continued discussion of this topic to be any kind of hostility because I actually think this entire topic is very interesting. With the advent of 3D sculpting we are letting in a bunch of new artists who have never worked with miniatures before and I think that unless the bottom falls out of the 3D printing market we are going to see a wider variety of more clearly defined ‘styles’ in the next couple of years.. the Cubisim / Surrealism / post-Surrealism of the miniatures world.. and likely, all just as pretentious and influential in their own way 😉
It is possibly because they are 3D rendered that they are so badly done, though there are plenty of hand sculpted bad boob jobs out there.
Sorry but your references to cubism and surrealism have no bearing on the discussion. It is a poor analogy.
Of course it does. There is nothing wrong with the technical rendering of them – and by rendering, I mean the act of creating them rather than the method by which they were created. They do not lack detail, they are not mis-aligned, they are not blocky and neither resembles a giraffe. They are a well-executed example of a style you don’t like. I can respect the fact that you don’t like the style, and I can understand your earlier statement that they say “nothing good about women” (interestingly, the same can be said about Surrealism *) but to say they are poorly done is exactly like Dali telling Picasso he’s doing it wrong because the latter is using a style that has fallen out of fashion while the former is a pioneer of a newly popularised ‘style’.
Consider Heroic, ‘true 28mm’ and SD as distinct styles that we already see in the miniatures market if you want something more relevant, and I really think that we are going to see more distinct visual styles emerge in the next few years.
* and for a litmus test, I showed both the doctor and the artwork for Leah Goodwin to my wife, who rolled her eyes at both. The doctor was “disturbing and fetishistic” while Leah and her legs that go *all* the way up was “pathetic”. So if this is a corner you are fighting, let it be known that you aren’t being thanked for fighting it!
@siygess When I first showed RH’s kickstarter to my other half her reaction was, “Those are brilliant. You should buy those.” The only miniatures she has banned me from buying are Tyranids, on the grounds that, “Having those in the house will give me nightmares.” 🙂
Hah, funny story. When my wife used to play 40k, the *only* army should would have were the ‘Nids. I don’t think she’s ever seen a range of female miniatures that she has approved of 🙂
..and yet, her Blood Bowl team was a bunch of naked males in loin cloths and covered in blue woading. Go figure!
I know there is an appetite out there for female toy soldiers, but I’ve got to agree with others with the opinion that the model is worse for the two features at the front. I’m not asking for models to be realistic, but this seems to be taking it to the extreme to be honest.
I know the hobby’s main customer base is male, but you can look elsewhere and see very good female models that do not go this way. GW has of late, done a very good job with their female sculpts (I’d put Lelith Hesperax up there as one of the best).
It’s a shame really, because the rest of the model (from what I can see in the picture of this article; obviously I don’t know what it looks like from the waste down), looks pretty good.
@chibo “Ooo matron…
Not my cup of tea. Love the teapot and cuppa, but the STUPID cliched female fantasy form is a big turn off. Ironically.”
I should of been more specific in what it was that offended me in the very first place before it got out of hand, it was saying the clichéd fantasy form was stupid. I know women that have those kind of dimensions, its not stupid at all and neither are they, that’s what I found offensive. It was your first post on this thread and it was immediately on the attack. You might not of meant it to be, but you said a particular way of looking was stupid, and that’s as bad as my intolerances. I apologise for getting so heated, but your very first post was offensive to me. If stupid wasn’t there it wouldn’t of bothered me, but labeling something stupid right from the start is rude.
@chibi even
It was an opinion about a certain type of depiction of the female form.
It is prevalent in the gaming world and it would be preferable if more often the pin up was not just a pastiche of what has gone before.
It is stupid because resorting to a cliche lacks intelligence. If the sculptor or someone from the company wants to come and have a go at me for not liking their work well maybe they would have a right to feel offended.
Real women don’t have breasts like that. So my comment was not offensive to real people just a certain type of miniature design.
Now if women want to pump their mamms full of silicon to achieve that look, then they are entitled to do so, but do I have to spell it out how perverse it is to try and conform to someone else’s concept of female beauty?
The dimensions are not the issue. I am not being derogatory of women with large bust sizes.
The issue is the shape which I thought I had made abundantly clear. It is a mockery of large breasted women pandering to some notion of male fantasy is supposed to be.
There is no way I would mock a woman’s form, I would just prefer that if we are going to continually be bombarded with female miniatures with big boobs, that we could have something other than the enormous globular parody.
They are all fair and valid points, and you are entitled to your opinion, but your first post said none of that, it just labelled a particular form stupid. That was all.
And now your saying using a cliché lacks intelligence? So because someone likes using a cliché then they aren’t intelligent?
Well it doesn’t exactly smack of creative genius.
It is only intelligent in terms of turnaround time for the team making these things.
Take the line of least resistance. Tread the well trodden path.
It lacks intelligence because it doesn’t actually use any brain power in the creative process.
Hackneyed work is hackneyed as the kids say. Are you trying to say that is intelligent?
I wouldn’t think myself so high that I would start to judge what is intelligent or not.
True, originality is something to be treasured but it is not in itself an guarantee of quality, nor is it a requirement for critical or commercial success (see: Flying Butts). I would also agree that stereotypes, clichés and tropes are very powerful when used appropriately. Visually it allows you to communicate something quickly if you don’t plan to explore something beyond that first impression and that works equally well as a story telling tool to keep the focus on where it needs to be. Equally by using clichés you have the chance to challenge people’s expectations. Heck, Cabin in the Woods just wouldn’t work if we didn’t already know what to expect from a movie about a cabin in the woods playing host to a couple of teenagers.
But I do have to concede the point that an overused cliche, when it is accepted as the norm, starts to be a little tiring.
I had assumed that the man on the Clapham Omnibus would realise that I was referring to the miniature and not real life women. Context, as they say, is everything
” stupid cliched female fantasy form”
But just because someone has a particular preference for a particular form, doesn’t make it stupid. Clichéd yes, but not stupid.
it was a throwaway comment that you are making far too much of.
In any case, I am still entitled to the opinion that the use of cliches is not clever, and that this particular cliche is stupid.
The model has some new things to say about gaming figures, which is brilliant but is badly let down by resorting to the fetishisation of nurses in particular and the female form in general.
Why was that necessary? The model certainly would not have been worse for her to have the tunic buttoned up for example.
Its just your opinion that I am making far too much of it. You are entitled to your opinion, just be less offensive when publishing it.
There is nothing inherently wrong with cliches any more that it being true that all originality is good. Saying you have to avoid cliches is one of those things that people of little talent say to avoid appearing quite as talentless as they are.
True artists know how to do cliche well and when to use it. I do feel that there is a danger that this entire range is being judged on a single figure. Yes, it’s a figure of a woman in a kinky nurses outfit with silly, sexy armour (yep, that’s armour, not her actual breasts), but there are people who do choose to dress like that in real life too. The rest of the range is varies in style and dress. I would challenge anyone to find a better sculpt of a female sci fi army officer than Irena Vega – not dressed in a sexy outfit, she does have big boobs, she is totally practical, because that is Her character.
Sorry but you have made far too much of my initial remark. Again the context is everything.
Sorry Dave but I have said that can reasonably be construed as offensive.
You are constantly nitpicking and dragging this out unnecessarily.
Furthermore I have constantly taken the time and trouble to provide reasons for my opinion.
So far the only counter to that is, it is better than fat slobs, cliches are okay, and “Chibi you are wrong. because we don’t agree.”
My only offense has been to stand my ground and justify my position.
Eratus
I never said that was her actual breasts. That is immaterial and actually validates my point about the sexualisation of women.
Artists do use cliches. But when that is all they have then it not enough.
This is not some piece of post-modern irony, but a cheesy salacious appeal to the adolescent mind.
Sorry Chibi, but the way I’m reading this, you are the one coming across as saying “I’m right and if you disagree you’re an idiot.”
I actually think it is post modern irony. It certainly isn’t designed to appeal to adolescents. I mean nobody under the age of 40 thinks nurses look like that 🙂
Gah.. foiled agaim by the multi-tierd reply system!
..and also, curse you inept thumbs! Go back to txt school and learn how to type!
“I wouldn’t think myself so high that I would start to judge what is intelligent or not.”
One doesn’t need to be Darwin to spot a turkey.
Nor do I have to be Darwin to spot a nasty piece of work like you.
Nasty piece of work AND a fat slob.
You on the other hand are such a convivial cove.
Never said you was a fat slob.
My bad, I thought the compliment was extended to all couch potatoes.
Slobs and couch potato’s are two totally different things.
I wouldn’t know about such niceties of detail concerning these pejoratives.
ps that should be potatoes while we are being pedantic.
Pedant.
“Sorry Chibi, but the way I’m reading this, you are the one coming across as saying “I’m right and if you disagree you’re an idiot.”
I actually think it is post modern irony. It certainly isn’t designed to appeal to adolescents. I mean nobody under the age of 40 thinks nurses look like that :)”
Well if that is what you really think I can’t help people’s inferiority complexes, that is for you to sort out.
Maybe, maybe not, some kids will be familiar with the portrayal of nurses in ecchi anime.
Irrespective of that, it was the appeal to salacious imagery to highly hormonal youths that I was referring to.
You attribute far too much credit to the model. It is merely the expediency of instantly recognisable form rather than any intellectual or aesthetic intent.
Or is the series Title of the “Galaxies toughest babes”* meant to be ironic, in which case they really are peddling soft porn.
* that was ironic
I know you don’t like the model, so just don’t buy it. I also know that you think it sexualises women. I actually agree with you on that one. It does sexualise women. Where I disagree with you is in thinking that this is a problem. I don’t have a problem with mildly sexual images. I can happily accept that adult humans are sexual beings. I know many women who are not being sexualised by men because they happily put a huge amount of time and effort into sexualising themselves. Come to think of it, I know a lot of men who also put a lot of time into making themselves look as attractive as possible.
Yeah, my moustache doesn’t wax itself into this awesome shape.
Surface appearances. So important these days.
There is a world of difference between wishing to appear attractive, feel sexy, look good on the one hand, and looking and behaving like Cyrus Miley on stage for example on the other.
Again, ask yourself this question. Why is it necessary for females to be depicted in costumes that not merely emphasis femininity, but point it out in big flashing neon arrows (pun intended)?
Why cannot a gal be tough without having also to look like a dominatrix?
She could still be attractive, sexy, without exposing the “armour”. Which, as armour, would be as effective as spreading Nutella all over herself. Possibly even worse. A bullet hitting her chest is going to ricochet right up her snozzle. No wonder she lost her arms poor thing.
“Why is it necessary for females to be depicted in costumes that not merely emphasis femininity, but point it out in big flashing neon arrows (pun intended)?”
I dunno. Maybe it’s necessary when the female in question is one inch tall and designed to be viewed from a distance? On the other hand, perhaps it’s not necessary but since when did something being nuns essay mean it shouldn’t be done? It’s not necessary to listen to music but we all do it. We do it because we enjoy it, it’s that simple. I happen to like these miniatures which is why I pledged a large sum of my money on this kickstarter. You don’t have to like them. That’s fine.
By the way. Surface appearances are important. They always have been. That’s why since the Stone Age, humans have been decorating their possessions, their homes and themselves. Style and substance are not mutually exclusive, they actually are better together than either one of them is without the other.
It is necessary to listen to music, it is not necessary to sexualise women, even little tiy ones. Perhaps especially not little toy ones.
You are confusing style with substance. Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon didn’t just decorate themselves to look pretty. That is what moderns tend to do.
Oh and they seemed to prefer fat slobs back in the cave days 😉
None of what you just said made any sense whatsoever. I’m bowing out of this conversations. I think you’re now just disagreeing with everything anyone posts just for the sake of it.
Look, all you had to say was that you backed the KS cos you likee.
You bring up paleolithic art than when I discuss it, that is disagreeing for the sake of it? I have had to put up with nit picking and niggling hostility at every turn all through this thread.
It is wonderfully ironic that you did mention the paleolithic, as there are several so called, “Venuses” or ” Madonnas” that depict very large women indeed, with huge pendulous breasts and enormous buttocks.
The fat slob was so much in vogue back then
It is highly likely that “decoration” is not merely for simple pleasure, but has symbolic significance. Hope that makes it clear.
Finally, I think you already know that I won’t be buying these figures, but I sincerely hope you have much joy of them.
Oh I’m sorry, I just can’t resist.
“It is wonderfully ironic that you did mention the paleolithic, as there are several so called, “Venuses” or ” Madonnas” that depict very large women indeed, with huge pendulous breasts and enormous buttocks.”
Yes I actually mentioned the whole of human history, not just the Paleolithic, to make the point that all through human history (and indeed prehistory) people have made object which wee not simply functional. We have no idea what the purpose, if any, was of these “venuses”. If you want to assume that they represent some indeed of feminine beauty, then all you are doing is pointing out that ideals change over time.
We’ll of course we all knew that. In my own lifetime I can remember the ways that ideas of feminine beauty have changed with time, just as fashions in everything else have changed. All you are doing is saying one ideal is better than another. The “fat slobs” of the Stone Age are for some reason preferable to the idealised form of these miniatures. I doubt many people in ice age Europe were enormously fat. These venuses were probably an unobtainable ideal, yet one is better than the other? Is that what you called “body fascism”?
And why do you assume that modern decoration has no symbolic significance, but all ancient decoration has? All artifice is a reflection of the people, the culture and the time in which it is created.
“It is necessary to listen to music.” Chibi
“The first man was an artist.” Barnett Newman
The mythopoetic came before the vanity of the little self. Music was in man before shells were threaded.
Music is a practical necessity? It ranks alongside food, water and shelter as a necessity for survival? Of course not. It may be necessary for mental and spiritual well being, but that is kind of the point I was making. The same is true of all art but you insist in trying to force a view that old art is good and new art is bad. When ancient man styled his hair it no doubt had some higher spiritual and ritual purpose, but when modern man cuts his hair it is artless vanity?
Regardless, instead of addressing the point I was trying to make, you chose to attack the validity of my metaphor? Ignore my (I thought obvious) intent and try to pick holes in the words I use. This is why I say you seem now to just be arguing for the sake of arguing and have really run out of things to say on this issue.
No doubt you will be unable to resist replying to this with some witty barb, finding some chink in a particular phrase I have used.
My opinion of your actual views is that I have every sympathy for them, but I think you are attacking a completely wrong target here. These miniatures are really not guilty of any of the offences you charge them with. They are terrible offences, but you have the wrong man in the dock.
… And that genuinely is my last word. Goodnight and sleep well.
Can inanimate objects be guilty?
Probably not. But their significance may not be entirely innocent
Significance? R.I.O.T.S.
Rice Infusion-Oxgall-Tween 80 Agar is indeed significant
Haha! Yep, you went and did it! Ignore the substance of what I said and pick holes in the phrase I used. Man, you are sooooo predictable.
The holes to pick in your argument is predictable.
Some of you have far too much time on your hands…
*raises an evebrow @ you know who* lol
But more on topic, those minis are looking stellar! I am getting the feeling I should have pledged for a few more, but there is always time to clear out drawer space for the future. 😀
Here we go round the mulberry bush
The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush.
Here we go round the mulberry bush
On a cold and frosty morning.
@erastus I wouldn’t fret, you won your argument, and he has proved it all the more by showing what an absolute tosser he is.
again with the personal insults old fruit
tut tut poor form
Some people deserve it more than others.
So let’s sum up before I bid farewell, what have I learned from this experience?
That I am a really, really, REALLY horrid person.
Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I’m going to the garden to eat some worms.
That Couch potato’s are not fat slobs
That Home neanderthal was wiped out because Cro-Magnon had an evolutionary edge by wearing Gucci and having silicon breast implants. It took them a few thousand years before they realised that implants were better suited to the ladies, but they got there in the end.
That boys like big knockers and some girls do too.
Well, who needs to go to university when all you need to know is on a gaming forum.
Erastus and his merry chums,
Said, “Chibi, why the drama?
We just don’t like what you say
So have some negative karma.
Plastic boobs are such good fun,
They give us a lot of pleasure.
Especially when we brush on the paint
And stroke them at our leisure.”
But now I must bid a fond adieu,
As I have to start my packing.
Have fun with all the miniatures
You get from your kickstarter backing.
* Homo not Home. Home boys didn’t evolve until the 1980s)
Such a knowledge of the wider world, must be the pumpkin hat.
Why all the flaming Dave?
Seriously, I disagreed about aesthetics on a miniature and all this abuse and hassle
It has gone on far too long and is totally unwarranted.
It’s ok to disagree Chibi, nobody is giving you a hard time for that. It’s your supercilious attitude that is attracting all the flak. Hope that clears things up. Bye now.
No, that does not clear anything up. That is an abnegation of responsibility
Bottom line is you and your mates didn’t like what I said about some toys you threw a lot of money at.but it does not justify the personal attacks and insults.
What you perceive as arrogance is simply reasoned rejection of your arguments, up until the whole thing became repetitive and circular. At which point it no longer mattered what you or I said we were not going to change anyone’s POV.
Though to be fair you have at least tried to engage in discourse rather than the pathetic sniping from behind the lines that others have being doing..
I have twice said I hope you have enjoyment from your investment, this is the third, and yet the insults kept coming.
Sorry Chibi but nobody, that is NOBODY on BoW is my “mate”, so do not try to make me carry the responsibility of what anyone else has posted in this thread. I did try to converse with you in a reasoned way and continued to do so up to the point where you just pedantically started to pick holes in my sentences instead of actually replying to the points I was trying to make. Don’t try high school debating tactics then make out I’m the one being unreasonable.
Just to be clear, I did not dislike anything you said except you use of the word “fascist”. I simply disagreed and stated my reasons. Do not please confuse my posts and my motives for those of others or lump me in with anyone who has ever disagreed with you.
Sorry mate
cf my PM 😉
I should add that I really don’t think you’re a horrible person at all Chibs. I just think that you are so totally wrong on this particular point and the tone of some of your posts here are a bit unwarranted. I’m sure we can hug and make up in a different thread soon. 🙂
I thought I was your mate!!!!!!
Gutted 😉
‘ I did not dislike anything you said except you use of the word “fascist”. ‘
Just noticed this Erastus.
I used the expression “body fascist” which given the context was legitimate as shown by the dictionary definition I also posted.cf below.
It was in response to the fat slob comment.
“From Collins English Dictionary:
Body Fascist:
noun
(pejorative) intolerance of those (eg fat people), whose bodies do not conform to a particular view of what is desirable”
I don’t recall using the word outside this context and am not gonna trawl through to check. Sod that for a game of toy soldiers lol
Sorry if did use the word elsewhere on this thread and caused offense.
It’s okay Chibi, you were using the phrase “body fascist” in the accepted sense. I just don’t like that phrase. I don’t think fascist is a word that should be so lightly banded around. For that same reason I hate the phrase “grammar nazi” .
I shouldn’t blame you though for the existence of a commonly used phrase.
Ah, I get you.
I agree, it isn’t the best term and unfortunately coined
Body Dysmorphic Disorder is the dissatisfaction with one’s own body, (thanks Google) but no idea what it is called if you don’t like someone else’s body shape.
(pejorative) intolerance of those (eg stupid cliched female fantasy form, to quote @chibi ), whose bodies do not conform to a particular view of what is desirable. So your intolerant of a particular form as well then? But that’s ok?
So by your view of things you are also a body fascist @chibi and you cant deny it because you have made it plainly clear how much you dislike a particular body type, its a “big turn off” for you.
WTF is your problem man
Jeez
I am intolerant of a certain ATTITUDE and design philosophy,
Jesus F Kennedy I don’t like the shape of Barbie dolls either
Real women I am not going to insult. I will leave that to you and Sarah to have on your conscience
To quote Sarah “It may be cliched, but its far easier on the eye than the average fat slob doing her shopping in pyjama bottoms and her Ugg boots. If I wanted reality id go outside. Being female I am the only one who can truly and honestly comment on female form” and for that you called her a body fascist? She didn’t say she didn’t like it, she merely expressed her preference for one form over another.
@chibi so your a body fascist if you dislike ANY particular body type. So I’m a guy that loves really big girls and hates skinny girls or vice versa, im a fascist for having a preference?
” far easier on the eye than the average fat slob ”
Derogatory comment about people with a certain body form,
But hey that is the loving caring culture we find ourselves in.
Getting get upset over a derogatory comment about a toy soldier is okay , while real people are fair game. Nice.
People>Plastic and none of your continual sniping will change that for me
But your derogatory comment about the “stupid cliched female fantasy form” is ok?
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Too Much back and forth on this now.
Clogging up peoples inboxes, and has little to do with a great set of minis any more.
Closing the comments 🙂