Fate Of A Nation Unboxing: Israeli Tiran 5 Tank
August 7, 2018 by dignity
John and Justin take a look at the Tiran-5 tank for Battlefront Miniatures 15mm wargame Fate Of A Nation.
The Tiran-5 was Israel's designation for their Russian T-55 tanks which they had captured and modified.
If you haven't heard yet Fate of a Nation is an Arab-Israeli wargame using the Team Yankee rule system.
Are you tempted by some 15mm modern warfare?
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Getting into Fate of a Nation. The biggest problem with this tank is , although John doesn’t like the M60, i think it’s one of the best. Expensive to use but all good tanks are. Lethality is the biggest issue with moderns, it seems like every shot is a kill so why bother to buy expensive tanks ( maybe the soviets had something there ) but still, thanks need to be able to take all comers and survive. The Tiran just doesn’t cut it in that department.
I agree that the M60 is overlooked. Not to mention that it very iconic.
you could manage smaller… give in @dignity, give in!
Who forgot to clean out the flash between the wheels and tracks? Go stand in the corner…
Thanks very much for the mention, @dignity ! 😀
Very nice to see Battlefront moving more into the 1973 era for their Arab-Israeli Wars vehicles and kits. These Tiran-4/5 (or Ti-67 if you prefer)* were captured during the 1967 Six-Day War (we have an article series on that but I don’t want to link it here and be accused of spamming …) 😀 … and put to use during the much larger and far more interesting 1973 Yom Kippur War.
Now I was about to write a novel here about how this was the “wrong” tank for 1967, but following the link I’m seeing where Battlefront seems to be expanding more into 1973. FINALLY! Needless to say I was very happy about this, a 1973 “Team Yankee Prequel” has been on my bucket list for some time now.
*Tiran-4 – based on captured T-54s
*Tiran-5 – based on captured T-55s (sure they are just about identical from a game perspective).
*Ti-67 Western / NATO designation
So what’s up with all the hate for the M-60? Okay, it kind of deserves it. The M-60s the US Marine Corps took to the 1991 Gulf War might have been the last ones to see active combat, they were heavily upgraded with the new ERA armor panels but admittedly waaaay past their rime. The Army wouldn’t let us play with their new M1 Abrams at that time. 🙁
Personally and historically, I just like the M48 better. USMC and IDF used the M48A3 in the Vietnam and the 1967 War (older American 90mm gun before upgraded to the better British L7 105mm), and the IDF still had battalions outfitted with the up-gunned M48A5s through the 1973 Yom Kippur (some of the most heavily-engaged brigades especially in the Sinai) and even 1982 “Peace for Galilee” invasion of Lebanon.
Never got why they put an MG on the gun mantlet (the Israelis do this on a few of their “refurbs”), too far forwards for the turret crew to use. Is it for the driver/hull MG crewman to give AA fire?
The M2 0.5″ HMG is mounted to traverse and elevate in line with the main gun, under control of the gunner. Originally it was used in training to save main gun ammo on the target ranges, but the crews liked having extra firepower in combat so it was frequently retained on operations. It was useful against softer targets that didn’t need 105/120mm of main gun rounds to knock out or they could lay down more suppression fire without the turret crew being exposed working the pintle mount MGs on the turret roof.
that looks good love the unboxing guys an love the story’s john gives.
Ignoring the murder of Sergeant Clifford Martin and Sergeant Mervyn Paice in your preamble.