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Scibor’s New Completely Original Releases
May 31, 2011 by dracs
Scibor Miniatures have released a new selection of Sci-Fi miniatures which in no way resemble any other figures by any other major gaming company.
These are the Celtic Veterans and I have to say I'm not that impressed. I mean yeah they have a nice level of detail, but they have been really badly positioned in my opinion.
Along with the boring poses, the shoulder pads are just so over the top its not even funny. Don't even get me started on this guys mask.
Don't get me wrong, I think Scibor have come out with some pretty good stuff in the past, but these just don't do them justice.
That's enough of me ranting, what do you guys think? Would you be tempted to get these? Do they have any redeeming features?
BoW Sam
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Have to agree with you … not impressed 🙁
I find his fantacy line is much better over all but i can see what you are talking about. I like the lion head helmets he sells. I think its the arms for some reason. They seem to not really fit with the rest of the kit and make the shoulders look odd as well as the body look heavy.
These are very much “heroic scale” and arms usually are the worst offenders of what is wrong with that scale in my opinion.
The arms are comically long, hanging down at least to the knees if straightened out as opposed to slightly below the groin. The heads are oversized too with the model being around 5 of its own heads tall as opposed to the realistic proportions of about 7.5 heads tall bare footed.
The poses are rather boring but that does kinda go with the heavy look of the armour, there could easily have been a bit more variation even within that though.
Stick to conversion parts Scibor! Theres a good lad!
I liked parts of those minis, the face mask kind of looks like a lion, but it looks a bit wrong. the guns could be a bit more chunky. other than that it looks great. If the body, legs and heads were avaiable as bits i think i might have look into using it for something.
Kind of like Scribor’s shoulder pads because they literally are over the top.
Need a pericope to see over them,
Always think that if a marine oops generic space warrior was to raise his arms the shoulder pads would act as a nutcracker!
(Nut as in head! Generic space warriors usually are not contortionists afaik, not in all that bulky armour anyway.)
This could explain why a generic space warrior NEVER surrenders!
This sucks. Ive seen scibor do much much better
Yet another alimentary release from Scibor… A man’s gotta live…
Still, it’s way more detailed than the releases from GW.
BoW Romain
Aw Romain you ruined it, we were all being so careful not not mention “the company.”
@elromanozo Sometimes Romain, I really wonder which models you’re looking at. Although yes, some of them are purposelessly left less detailed to allow us, the hobbyist, but others easily match or exceed these.
You really make it seem like you’re intentionally out to devalue the work of the sculptors at GW and that you forcibly convince yourself that GW models are terrible.
But I digress, Scibor makes some fantastic stuff, I don’t understand what happened here. It feels like whoever sculpted these just didn’t have his mojo going. Technically well done, but the heart just isn’t in it. Also, shoulder pads? Really? I’ve said it a hundred times, women wear shoulder pads, warriors wear pauldrons.
There’s no sense of motion of action in the sculpts which you’d like. Also it doesn’t matter how detailed they might be if they are all in the same stance and so bunched together – like theres no gap between the models body/arms etc – just going to look very odd.
While i love the shoulder pads, the poses of them are very static, compared to other stuff, also the heads are rather odd looking.
I have to agree that these guys aren’t posed the best. I would have done something cooler.
That said I love his stuff. I have offten thought about buying some of his fantasy stuff like his version of chaos dwarves.
I like them tbh.
They could be better, but they are easy to repose.
Now this is why I will never buy them:
They are more expensive (and maybe worse) than the GW minis.
You know, the heads aren’t bad – even the mask! And the weapons look good. But criminey, the stances. It looks like the lower half of the figure is one solid piece. I’d hate to try to saw that up. The shoulder pads are just stupid. Imagine these guys trying to look left or right on a battlefield.
This is pretty shameless. Space Wolves anyone?
I kinda like them, great alternative for Space Wolves if you didn’t want to spend a lot of money on GW’s Space Wolves.
But they are more expensive!
Generally I like the Scribor style. The mass and chunkiness of the armour feels sort of right for me. The decoration is generally nicely done too.
What would be really good for these perhaps, is if they were true scale. I know that is not everyone’s cup of char, but there is an interest for it.
It would free up the figures from the compacted look given the mass of the armour.
That would allow for better poses. As they are at the moment there is no room for articulation of the joints because the armour looks like it would get stopped by adjacent armour . I feel that GW marines suffer from this to a certain extent.
When you factor in the heavy cloak and apron then it becomes a solid mass.
I am assuming that these are one maybe two piece models so possibly undercutting is being avouded for simplicity of casting?
We know Scribor can do better and no one gets it right all of the time. Even Darrell made a mistake once iirc 😛
I actually order from scibor and have an army using their spartan range but the shoulder pads are abit more like blast shields than shoulder protectors, I see this as to their resiliance in my BA army with the priest nearby of course
They sort of remind me of space wolves…must be the pelts
They look like Board game minis. Not impressed at all.
Yeah, what I was thinking. No movement etc…
me liky liky just wish i had a job so i had money for some
I like the other generic space warriors of the canine persuasion they do, I love the axe one one of their other single models, looks very much like a space wol- uh space warrior of the canine persuasion.
I think these look awful; just lumps with extrusions. Yes they are better than i could ever hope to sculpt, but I see nothing thre to potentially make me want them more than say GW plastic (or metal or finecast) Space Marines.
I like them I like the lions head they are original already based to a certain degree. I would game with them…
Also the way the details are layered it appears they would be a bit easier to paint.
Do they come in one piece or do you have to build them ?
i rate these. i reckon they’re actually very nice and the photos probably don’t do them justice. The poses are static but don’t make an entire army out of them. Just drop them into an existing army and with a good paint job they’ll work out well
My FLGS stocks Scibor so I’ll be interested to see if he gets these in too.
Bit of a fail, I actually think the Space Wolves of GW are quite well priced, and certainly high-quality models. Not the norm, but the 40K range does have some reasonable boxes.
Gota agree there. Those are awful poses. The weapons and over-the-top-even-for-heroic-scale is terrible. Scibor makes good parts but so far not impressed with ‘original’ minis.
I think conversion sets are one thing – this is another. The major problem I have with this lot is it’s blatant plagiarism. Surely there’s enough talent on show here to do something more original than this?
Because it was such a feat of genius for GW to rip off the Star Wars Stormtroopers and mix them with vikings…
I think he/she is more refering to the fact these people have some good skills/talent but are just doing 3rd party 40k stuff – if that’s the case I’d rather see sculptors come up with their own stuff too as I find 40k stuff pretty boring these days.
Do these cost less than a box of GW space marines? If so then they look great to me!
kudos to them for seeing a gap in the market and moving to fill it….. non GW models following a recent spate GW idiocy
i think i see myself a new squad of grey hunters
I think they are well sculpted but as others have said I don’t like the poses or proportions of things. I think if they had worked on the proportions and gave them cooler poses they’d be better accepted among people.
It does make me glad that because I sculpt extra-dimensional aliens – I don’t have to worry about things like “correct” proportions and such…phew!!
so at $50 for 5 dudes – not worth it. if this box had 15 missile launcher dudes for 50 it would be the best rip off evarrrrr
These are just rip-offs of GW space wolves, pure and simple. Shameless.
Is Scibor just trying to push it to see how far they/he can go before getting a lawsuit? The poses are completely static and they’re a more-than-blatant copyright infringement. It’s almost as if they’re doing it on purpose…. to get publicity…. and sell more knock-offs.
Scibor, you have a lot of talent. Why not put it to better use than this idiotic plagiarism?
lol unoriginal and bad posing.
I think some of you are hyper-critical AND I think you do tend to simply agree with the BOW staff. ^^ partially I do have to agree too these are quite static but I simply dont see why this would be a problem.
To be honest I am a little jaded with super-dynamic poses, they are cool for some special characters or if you put some of them in a squad, but having a whole army that jumps, runs, does flic flacs or has ha heroical pose ?…not for me, it simply looks messy in the end. I do prefer some more calm poses for the normal troops in my army
oh and about the “rip-off” part think of forge world they havent always been a part of GW
Static poses are’nt always a bad thing and in my opinion this is one of those times when they’re not. These figures are clad in massive armour and so for them to be moving at high speeds doesnt really make sense. I like the way they look as though theyre stallking towards the enemy firing off shots without even bothering to aim, (theyre that badass :D) sometimes static poses look awful (new GW haemonculus) but sometimes they work in this case they look quite good.