New Edition Of Warhammer 40,000 Coming June 17th
May 23, 2017 by brennon
The new edition of Warhammer 40,000 from Games Workshop will go on pre-order June 3rd with a release date later that month of June 17th. It comes with all new rules that shake things up and a new boxed set too.
Leading the way for this fight for the torn and sundered galaxy in Warhammer 40,000 we have a clash between the Ultramarines and the Death Guard in Dark Imperium with the new Primaris Space Marines battling against the forces of ruination and Chaos.
Ultramarines
If you're looking to pick up the Ultramarines from this boxed set then you have some great models to begin adding to an existing collection, or indeed a way to start an entirely new one. Some of the characters look great including this Captain in his new Gravis armour.
This seems like an intermediary link between the power armour we know and the Terminator variant. It seems a bit much around the legs and body but otherwise I quite like the design of it, especially the way the helmet is set back into the armour.
He is then joined by some Lieutenants...
These warriors will be commanding the Intercessor and Hellblaster Squads no doubt as they march into battle. Last but not least for the Ultramarine characters we also have the Ancient who is bringing his banner into battle to urge his warriors on to victory.
These heroes will then need some warriors to lead into the fray and that's where the Intercessors come in. You can see two of the squads from the set below which have been done up with a few alternative options.
Whilst the variants aren't huge you'll notice the leader of the force can be assembled with his helmet off and on. I quite like the version with the helmet off, even though it never makes sense when it comes to Space Marines. It certainly gives you a bit of a movie star moment though.
Finally, for the Ultramarines, we have the Hellblaster and Inceptor Squads which are going to be providing some much-needed firepower to burn through Chaos Space Marine power armour...
...and then a way to bring the fight to the enemy as these warriors land in the midst of their foes, ready to blast them apart with what look to be new variants on the bolter.
I have to say I'm not liking the look of these Inceptor Space Marines. It's always been funny trying to get Assault-style Space Marines to look good in flight, they're just so heavy, but maybe they missed a trick with these. I see them appearing as clumsy rather than like avenging meteors of doom descending from the skies.
Death Guard
This then brings us on to the enemies of the Imperium and the dark forces arrayed against these Ultramarines. Leading the way for the Death Guard we have a myriad of characters buts we'll start with my favourite, the Lord Of Contagion.
Now, he might look more like he's come out of the pages of Age Of Sigmar but I think that's what I like about the design. Chaos Space Marines have always had a more archaic look to them and I think it speaks more to their heritage which is nice, especially when seen in models like this.
This fellow is then joined by the Blightbringer who seems like quite the herald of doom.
Finishing off their collection of heroes (or should that be villains?) we have the Plaguecaster, their Sorcerer, spilling foul bile and ichor across the battlefield. He too has a bit of the 'Fantasy' about him which I like and I think they've done well capturing the character of these new villains.
Of course, they also need a host to bring into battle and that means some new Plague Marines which are looking very swish indeed.
The Plague Guard are Chaos Space Marines with a bit of something extra thrown in for good measure. Once again it looks like they've gone all out here and really drawn on that theme of Nurgle to make them look decayed and completely lost to the ruinous powers.
Following behind them we have the Poxwalkers who act as their version of Cultists, gibbering and scampering behind them as the Plague Guard go about their work.
If you get fed up of painting armour these could be a good antidote as you'll be able to mess around with blending techniques and more. They even appear to have included a chap in his lab coat, maybe the scientist who brewed up the mixture that turned them into these demonic souls?
Last but not least for the Death Guard they also get this new Plague Drone which seems like it's going to be the target for those Hellblasters and their plasma guns. Hovering in the background, a mixture of machinery and magic, it looks like it will act as the supporting piece to the rest of your force. No doubt, in the end, you're going to want more of these.
The thing that strikes me about both of these forces is that they're going to be rather easy to paint. The Ultramarines have a very simple scheme, and it doesn't take much to make the Death Guard look good, covered in grime and dirt. A good choice of forces to get things started I reckon.
Getting Started
With a new edition on the way, Games Workshop put together a little diagram showing off just how you now get started in the game. As well as Dark Imperium they will also be supporting the product with more releases too.
So, as you can see as well as picking up Dark Imperium you may want the main rulebook (if you're collecting away from the Ultramarines & Death Guard) as well as one of the new sourcebooks for the Imperium, Xenos or Chaos forces that are hitting the tabletop.
The Core Rules of the game will also be FREE which is a big step forward and something they've learned from with Age Of Sigmar. You will also be able to pick up new accessories, terrain pieces and lore books to help you digest the new world of Warhammer 40,000.
So, what do you think folks?
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As a dedicated servant of Grandfather Nurgle, this set has me giddy as an intoxicated schoolgirl.
Just need to find someone to take 60-odd Primaris Marines off my hands.
Well if you arent living too far off, i’d be interested in swapping my Nurgle Marines ^^
I have decided that my boyhood dreams of painting up a Howling Griffons army will also come true with this release.
If this is meant to be a fairly even starter set then the new Nurgle Marines must be tough. Looks like it’s almost one squad against 4 Primaris Marine squads.
I had a manly, little squeal of anticipation when i first saw this too ….. and I am normally not a 40k guy (since they murdered all those short fat blokes*)
*”Short fat blokes” onlyonepinman’s term for the coolest 40k army ever .. may they rest in peace
Oh no, @beardragon14, be smith of reality yourself! There is ample opportunity right now for bringing back to life stunty space fellows.* Only needs some hobby crafting grease put into it. Squats, Demiurg, you name ’em. GW just released the best kitbash basis for either. 😉
*(I refuse to see them as ever been killed anyway, they just don’t appear in the recent entries in the grand Liber Historiatus – again, all this retconning by the Holy Ecclesiarchy… Btw, they’re real cool guys actually. ^^)
ahh, those positive body image imperialists – they love trains, what’s not to love.
Mind you, I don’t see the death guard being much for salad either, even if the gun-toting blight kings are taller than my 30k mk3 thousand sons.
It may tempt me back…… I feel an update for Centuris & the rest of my Legion of the Damned. Just need to find that box of skellies for the armour mods…….
CRAP, CRAP, CRAP. Why did they do this!!!!!! God I hate them!!! soooooo going to have to get this, the new sculpts look great, have to check out the new rules, this might suck me back into 40K 😀
yes this is a double post, just had to say it twice
Mate I fully understand 😉
Hmmmm how’s this going to work with my Vlka Fenryka
This is the first edition in ages that i actually want to play… Will have to fix the smurfs into blood angels, but bugger me do i like the death guard, and i love how it looks like they will be very easy to kitbash with the AoS nurgle range 😀 Now they just have to give me some proper noise marines and i will be happy (yes i want to get the band back together 😉 )
Im hoepful that demo games will be available at games expo, they do have a pretty big stand….
Just need confirmation all chapters will be using the new marines, been think of a space wolves army and don’t care for ultra marines.
Yep, this has been confirmed plenty of times – this is from the Primaris marines FAQ…
“I have an army. Can I field Primaris Space Marines?
Any of the galaxy’s many hundreds of Codex Chapters can use Primaris Space Marines, along with many of the less Codex-compliant ones like Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves.”
I’ve been kinda ‘meh’ about 40k for a good few years now, despite having two decent sized armies, but pretty much everything they’ve trailed in the rules teases sounds really good to me – seems like the new edition is heading in a really good direction.
Now this new starter set looks great, and I think I’ll be starting a Primaris marines force for the new edition.
Time to dig out those Tau and Tyranid storage boxes. Well done GW – you’ve got me on board the hype train 🙂
Any idea on price?
Not yet. It was £75 for the Age Of Sigmar Starter Box but that didn’t have as big of a rulebook included.
Maybe you’ll see it come in around £90 although maybe we’ll know more after Warhammer Fest.
Yeah I would guess about £90-£100 given the number of minis and hardback rulebook.
I’ve heard rumours of $125, so £90 sounds plausible.
Which, of course, is WAY too expensive for a starter box. 🙁
Sure, there’s plenty of nice plastic in there, but a starter box should be set up for recruitment, not for building armies. Cut half the plastic and release it at no more than £50, then we might be talking.
I would rather pay more and get a lot more stuff on top of the rulebook (within reason of course, a £200 starter set may be a bit much). The £45 Malifaux starter box for example, was a huge disappointment with only 8 minis, whereas the Deus Vult one which costs £100 and contains 78 minis and a house is awesome IMO. Each to their own though I guess.
At least a £100 starter set makes either a great one off (as in you don’t really ever need to buy more if you don’t want to) for a newbie, or at least shows them that this hobby isn’t for the faint of wallet.
Maybe hang on until they re-make the “Kill Team” starter with small rulebook and 2 squads as that would seem more up your street.
I guess it is indeed a matter of each to his own.
Personally, I would much rather pay $45 for 8 models than £90 for 60 models. But that’s just me – I’ve gotten sick and tired of Games Workshop trying to push this as a mass-combat game. Besides, £45 is low enough for me to walk into the store, see something cool, and buy it there and then. £90, on the other hand, would have me pause for a while, wondering if I should be spending that amount of money on plastic.
We’re getting close to the price of a used (possibly even a new if you get it at a sale) Xbox or Playstation. And you haven’t even bought the glue, knife, files, brushes, and paint.
Back in the days when I was freelancing in several of the local hobby stores, I encountered this issue several times. Selling a single box was easy enough, but once you’re talking the big starter-boxes and all the paraphernalia you need, this price is so high that people back out again.
I once saw a mom who, having asked for the total cost of all the stuff her son would need to start playing, just shook her head and walked out the store, having decided that an Xbox was cheaper. And that was several years ago, back when the boxes sold at some £50 – £65.
A starter box is supposed to recruit new players, even if it means selling it at a loss. Push the price too high and you simply won’t be able to recruit new players.
Found this online:
Starter Set 125€
Core Rules 45 €
Index book 20 €
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Command Dice 15€
More expensive than the AoS starter.
@warworksdk
I can understan you but isn’t nearly every starter of the big systems these days more expensive than 50 pounds?
The only ones I can think of offhand that are £50 or under are Mantic stuff, Malifaux and X-Wing. I am sure there are more but none I can think of. Warmahordes ones are about £70. Runewars is RRP £100. Most big board games with plenty of minis are £60-£100 these days. Zombicide seems to do OK as does Imperial Assault.
Also not sure where you’re getting your new Xboxes or PS4s but they’re £250ish at the minute with one game.
It’s GW and a 40K box. They could charge triple that and their captive audience would still lap it up.
I think the hardback rule book is in the box, because the Antares starter box had one – I think this will just be the launch box or a collectors box and there will be a box without later. (Antares set is £70, with less minis and not longer has the hardback rulebook)
I agree w.r.t. the starter set price point, but you can already get into the game at the £45 mark with the kill team box, which itself may need a 8th edn makeover.
@iceeagle85
Yeah… They’re starting to get really expensive.
Part of it, I think, is a general drive to include more and more stuff in the box. It’s just the zeitgeist, I suppose.
@lunchbox
I honestly haven’t checked the prices on the newest versions of them, but I do recall that around the time of this mom coming into the store, they could be found for around £100 used and £120 – £150 new / demo from stores. That is quite a few years ago though…
I have heard that it is the same price as Betrayal at Calth …. Whatever that is in your local currency.
@lunchbox guildball and test of honour, are the two stand outs I can think of, while with the hardback I don’t think the price is unreasonable it is a high price point for a starter. I personally think for any company over £70 is pushing it as a starter product.
I agree I would rather see it at £70-75 with a small format paperback rulebook much like Dark Vengeance, the £95 price tag is fine by me given the larger book and discount from independent retailers.
If you shop around and get 20% off its not far off that price anyway.
So that’ll be about $250 Australian.
£90 seems to be RRP on the order sheets ive seen, so £81 or there abouts at your local independant store, pretty good value for 52 mini’s and a hardback rule book.
Pricing on primaris seems to be £30 RRP for a 5 or 3 man box (depending on assault or normal backpack varients)
So back of fag packet calculation to buy the contents separately
your looking at £180 for the space marines and about £200 on the death guard (assuming character mini’s are at the £15 RRP) so £90 for £400+ worth of stock at list price is a pretty good bargain. And no GW are not that expensive, they are about average price will always mean our hobby is one for people with disposable income
“And no GW are not that expensive, they are about average price will always mean our hobby is one for people with disposable income”
Yes and no.
On a model-by-model basis, Games Workshop isn’t too bad, that’s true. Especially considering the quality of the models (aesthetics and FineCast aside).
But on an army-by-army basis, Games Workshop is in a class of it’s own.
Personally, I think this is a large part of why the average player is getting older and older. The cost of a full army, not to mention the time needed to collect and paint it, makes it hard for teens to get into the game.
No wonder then, that skirmish games are having a comeback.
It’s just me or the primaris squad composition looks rather similar to the Dawn of War 3 composition?
Specially the five plasma unit.
Loving the minis except the flying weidos xD
It is likely more inspired by the Horus Heresy, you had units which only had Bolters and units which only had special weapons back then.
God damn this looks good! 17th of June can’t come fast enough!
Tempting…
Oh my god, did I just say that?!
Well that’s a sure sign that GW has gone back up in my estimations; I think that I’ll go and dig out my old ‘Nids and Chaos and Marines and have a look-see (after crying over the state of my old paint jobs!).
I guess that i’m thinking about getting out some old, unpainted marines i’ve got somewhere around here to test out some color schemes says it all.
Out of all the things to surprise me, its the bloody artwork on the final image! What the hell is that monstrosity?! Otherwise, cool stuff
Looks like a very 80’s throw back to some of the art that used to be in WD
I consider that to be a good thing…….. but I’m a bit of a dinosaur
The artwork looks in line with the 40k comics form titan comics
http://titan-comics.com/c/624-warhammer/
So now we have release date for new edition. I don’t care about Nurgle guys (when does Slaanesh get to shine?) but I do want to get my hands on those Primaris Marines.
Slaanesh is too busy *eh* doing the beast with two backs to fight …
And didn’t he/she/it get killed in the current timeline ?
The new boxed game looks amazing, especially given it contains the full rulebook. Of course, I’ll be at Origins in Columbus on Release Day, so I’ll have to swing by the FLGS on the drive home Sunday Afternoon.
I’m in 😀 . I have been growing in confidence towards the release of 8th after reading all the tidbits released along the way and the look of that starter box just seals the deal. All the mini’s look great and I look forward to mixing in some Primaris with my Forces of DA, SW, GK and Codex Marines.
It is kinda tempting, but I just keep thinking about new rule book, new army books (2 for the Imperium for me) plus having to replace all my Forgeworld books….sigh…., not to mention new minis and vehicles and so on and wracking my brains on where I would fit them into my almost complete Chapter…….
You have nailed it @khiasharisse there is a significant re-investment past the “Free Core Rules” con job aka “marketing speak” for anyone like yourself or myself who has multiple GW & FW 40K armies / minis. Most of my gentlemen group of gamers has moved on from 40K to other games systems and miniatures now so I can’t see myself buying into the 8th edition repurchasing hype. Let’s see what GW actually deliver on the 17th via free downloads PDF’s – I really hope I am proved wrong but doubt I will be.
Wah wah. I have to spend £30 a year so the nasty big conman-run corporation can continue to update the game and keep it fresh. Free core rules isn’t good enough. I wanted it all for free so I can continue to play with my 20 year old minis without supporting the people who write the rules. Boo hoo.
Gentleman gamers? Entitled kids more like.
GW staff deserve to be able put food in their bellies and a roof over their heads the same as anyone else.
LOL @lunchbox re Entitled Kids – way too much grey in my beard for that to apply but nice taunt +1.
Wah Wah & Boo Hoo? sorry but again incorrect. You misread this as GW hate post which is not the case, it was more of an V8 opt out statement and general disappointment at their marketing. I have been playing and paying for GW systems for 2 decades now with old V2 to current gen V7 minis so my disposal income budgeted for hobby has been biased towards GW / FW for quite some time so I have played and they have been paid and no one has missed out on their due royalties to feed their families.
Given the plethora of really good gaming systems available now offering genuine choice, accessibility, economical entry points, and next level creativity is why these tired old GW systems needed a complete revamp as regularly milking the dedicated user base is like the clubbing DoDo’s diminishing return equation and they need to attract new people into buying their products as the old guard like me who have contributed to their success to date remain disillusioned and moved on to different more entertaining games.
I honestly hope I am proved incorrect and the V8 re-write is a raging success both with the community engagement and for GW and some spark some interest in the future for me to return but for now I choose to spend my diminishing hobby budget supporting the new generation of creative businesses and individual folk via their kick starters and putting food on their tables rather than supporting boards of directors and shareholders.
Hope that provides an alternate perspective so you can pu the lid back on that lunchbox.
Cheers.
@lunchbox I think this post is the first time I have missed the down vote button. The post highlights that for the promoted free rules, they arent actually free. It is point I have made about AoS before, and a lot of companies are proving you don’t need to sell rules to make money, this pseudo-free rules stance isn’t doing them any favours in my view. To my mind you it’s a potential gotcha for someone drawn to try the game, which isn’t great marketting.
As for the post maybe try understand other points and question before going off with rather childish taunting.
To each their own. The way I see it:
If people want to continue to play golf, they don’t baulk at the course fees. If they want to watch movies, they don’t baulk at the monthly Netflix subscription or the cost of a bluray player. If they want to knit, they don’t expect to get their new spools of wool for free because they paid for one last year. If folk want to go to a gym to work out, they don’t piss and whine about the membership fees. Yet a ridiculous number of people in the tabletop miniatures gaming hobby seem to think they should be able to play the new updated rules entirely free just because they bought the models 10 years ago. If you don’t want to pay to play the new game, play the old rules you bought in 1996.
Hobbies cost money. If you don’t want to pay the cost of the hobby, don’t do it, or go do something else rather than whining that you paid for your hobby last year so why can’t you have it free this year? If you don’t want to pay the golf course fees, go hit balls round in your back garden. You still got your clubs. If you don’t like GWs marketing and there are so many other games which are so much better and have great free rules, go play them. Why do you even want to play GW games if the others are so much better?
Some games (e.g. Frostgrave) make most of their money from rule books. Is that bad? No. Will people piss and whine that their old books are useless when Frostgrave 2.0 is released? Of course they will, because that is the crazy self-entitled world that a lot of people in this hobby seem to live in.
GW have never said that the rules are free. They have said that the core rules are free. This is the same as many other current games manufacturers. PP don’t give entirely free rules, nor do Wyrd, Warlord, Mantic, FFG… Why should GW?
Frankly, I just don’t get it and it comes across as childish self-entitlement.
@ultramarine40 sorry but whining that GW are doing some kind of “con job” by offering free core rules and charging for books full of updated model rules, while regaling us of your “gentlemen gamer” friends who are too good for GW games makes me think you are an entitled kid. How dare they charge for their products! Bastards!
Also @dags
Can you tell me who all these successful companies that don’t make money off their rules are? I would like to look at playing their games.
@lunchbox, all of privateer’s presses rules are free, all cards are digital and you can download them for free, full rules are digital and you can download those for free, accuracy is a thing. Guildball is another example, they even provide standees so you need never buy a model. I highly recommend both.
The concept is the strength of the rules sell the minis, and game balance and interesting models drive a meta and change the play significantly that each model is desirable.
Frostgrave is very different as it is miniature agnostic, so the product is the rules, the miniatures are produced by another company. GW state they are a miniatures company, the money maker is the minis.
I am ambivalent to GW marketing, but they have used the term core rules are free, the thing is core gets missed when people here it then get salty. FFG do ‘free’ downloads of the books, but don’t advertise as free as you cannot play without the other components. I just think you are better as a company going free rules or paid rules.
Also the genuine position I am in is thinking, I will either download and try – except it seems I won’t be able to as free army rules is sketchy, or pass it by if I cannot try, or buy into it. It is probably about 50/10/40 on that at present as while the spoilers look mostly positive, I have some reservations. Now if the rules are free to try and I like it, I at least buy the book and probably more models. So GW go from a 90% chance of a sale to 40% definite sale.
As for the entitled crap, it not entitled, I am not owed a set of rules to try for free – claiming that would be entitled. I am saying that the ability to play without purchase effects GW’s chance of sales and for some will come as a bit of a negative moment as how free the rules are will not be what is expected. I am also not saying don’t charge for the rules, GW have a good price point on these for this release, if your going to charge say that, and go buy the why you can read the core rules from a handy pdf download.
As it is I really like the box, before the news it would have been 70/20/10. I think the listed depth of content and price of the hard back is really good. I think the get you going codices are well priced. So I don’t actually disagree with you on this release, just don’t feel the post in question is positive, if you going to post boo hoo be careful with the use of the term childish, it may fit you rather than others better.
I hadn’t noticed that PP cards were now free as I already bought all of the cards for my models when 3.0 was released. That is good news indeed.
I agree that the rules for a game being free is great. It is only a matter of time before more miniature manufacturers do it. What I don’t agree with is complaining that they are trying to con people by charging for them. It would be nice if they gave all of the model stats for free like with AoS but that is up to them.
Will they lose miniature sales through not having completely free rules? Probably. Will they lose more by giving away all of the content of their books for free? Maybe. That is for their marketing department and accountants to decide.
While I am sure Steamforged do well by giving away all of their rules, they are a very small company who can afford to do it and have done so from the very beginning. Think how much of GWs profits must be made up of books. That chunk of change is not something they can just drop on a whim and for them the gradual movement towards free core rules is likely a better option for the company.
Better to be happy that they are progressing as a company and becoming more approachable and open to change than to be salty about the little things they do wrong IMO.
The thing is, is that if you were to buy the main rulebook + the army specific rule books in the current 7th edition, then you’d most likely be spending more.
Taking the latest (relatively extreme) example, if you wanted to play with the Ynnead Eldar faction, then you needed to buy the Rising Storm book + Craftworld + Dark Eldar + Harlequins + 7th Edition Rule book. In 8th, that gets cut down to 2 books; the main rule book, which seems to also include the old City Fight, Planet Assault, etc.., again all of which used to be separate, and one of the Xenos books.
I guess you could point to the advantage of the previous 40k new editions being compatible with older Codexes, but lets be honest, that created a bunch of other problems with some armies being left behind in terms of competitiveness as well as the bloated rules 7th Edition currently has.
Opinions and all that, but the new rules they’ve been showcasing / leaking, have made me interested in 40k for the first time in a long while, but the unfortunate side effect of these new rules, is that it makes the old Codexes obsolete rules wise.
I could also point out that releasing all of the army books at the same time will hopefully create better initial balance that you’ve not seen now for any previous editions, certainly since 3rd.
Plus GW seem more keen on the idea of “fixing” things if they prove too powerful (as seen by how AoS has come along).
The Inceptor Squad is exactly what I think big heavy men should have as armor and gear. The foot hydraulics make sense and the lack of bell bottom armor is a plus.
Oh the true winners in this release is the Death Guard. Every single one has character and are full of details. The marines on the other hand almost all look the same just with slight pose changes.
It’s not like you could do much to those marines without making the models too complicated for beginners.
It also might be done on purpose to create a distinct feel to both armies :
– space marines : solid, predictable
– death marines : chaotic
Besides … it’s plastic, so they should be too hard to modify.
@manpug yeah those inceptors are the real stand out of the new marines for me, I think you have summed up how well.
The Nurgle guys are a bit too cartoony for my tastes though I think a different paint job would help.
The Primaris marines look good, very business like and an almost complete lack of bling which I like. I don’t like the little gun shields on the jump pack guys plus as has been said they do look kinda clumsy.
I will likely pick up a box of marines and a lieutenant when they go up for sale, I know the boxed game would be better value but I am a slow ass painter and feel more motivated if I have fewer minis.
I think it definitely is the paint job.
It’s far too chearful and bright for such a disease ridden and decaying army.
I really hope there is no limited shenanigans cause I plan on getting one of everything.
I’m really excited to see what else is in the rulebook as its still 280 pages and they say the core rules are only 12 pages. I’m hoping alot of it is advance rules for narrative play like stronghold assault and such.
My only problem is waiting!
They have stated that the core box and book will be ongoing release so no limited stuff there. Whether the dice and cards will be limited remains to be seen.
Book has formations, stratagems and all of the City Fight and Stronghold Assault stuff etc.
Just in time for my return home. Time to start working on those Harlequins. Mind you those Death Guard look pretty tempting…
is that a dangling bone between the captains legs? Strange decision to me! Justin will be straight on that with a hobby knife 🙂
A bone like that is why all of the Primaris Marines want to be him and all of the Battle Sisters want to be with him. Such a nice bone it has its own frame.
Replay Games in Bangor NI are saying £95 for the box set . Though there picture doesn’t make it clear if £95 s with or without the 20% discount there offering
Goddammit. I hate this. ’cause I like it.
If you manage to ignore for a moment this new Space Sigmarines’ (TM) predominant layer of all stern and humourless Super-Super Heroes attitude, I sense an air much like the “pragmatic (sur-)realism” of the old school Space Marines. Pre 2nd Edition like. You know, as prominent in many early Ian Miller pieces.
Against that even the Nurgle stuff here seems rather flat and over exaggerated. Who would have thought?
Interesting times, indeed.
I’ll grab it and split the box with my brother. I have a different paint schemes for the Death Guard so I can have them looking a lot grittier. No idea what I’ll do with the Plaguecaster though. Hideous mini.
40k Update – RRP’s:
WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000: DARK IMPERIUM (ENGLISH) £95.00
WARHAMMER 40000 RULEBOOK (ENGLISH) £35.00
WH40K: TACTICAL OBJECTIVE CARDS (ENG) £8.00
SECTOR IMPERIALIS: OBJECTIVES £20.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMMAND DICE £12.50
WARHAMMER 40000: WOUND TRACKERS £8.00
INDEX: XENOS 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: XENOS 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: CHAOS (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 1 (ENGLISH) £15.00
INDEX: IMPERIUM 2 (ENGLISH) £15.00
DARK IMPERIUM NOVEL (HB) £18.00
WARHAMMER 40000: COMBAT GAUGE £6.00
CITADEL DEATH GUARD GREEN SPRAY £11.75
That’s courtesy of Lvl Up games in Bournemouth.
Ouch! That box is expensive… 🙁
The codexes seem surprisingly cheap though. I would have guessed no less than £35 each. Wonder how much content they actually have?
I don’t think anywhere has said what the page count is, but for those prices I’m guessing the codexes are gonna be rules reference sheets with for each unit, and very minimal fluff on top of that (maybe a page or two for each faction?). That’s the same price as Deathzone Season 1 for blood bowl was, and that was thinner than the issue of White Dwarf I bought at the same time…
They will likely be very similar to the Grand Alliance books for AoS. Thin pages containing nothing but warscrolls for the models. Price is very reasonable though. £15 to get all of the rules for an existing army (or more armies if you have multiples in the same book) is fine by me.
It comes with the hardback rule book in it not a scaled down version. That alone is £35 by itself. You get all those minis for pretty much £60.
I kind of just want the Space Marine side. I guess I will sell off the Nurgle portion.
Is it me or does the Captain in Gravis Armour look pregnant from that angle?
Damn it.
I’m seriously tempted.
I’m not sure if Chaos is a good choice as an enemy, but otoh you get two more or less equal forces which is a good thing in a starter box.
I also like that they’re giving all of the armies an entry level codex of sorts at release.
That was one thing that was missing in the Age of Sigmar release, because unit cards & the like are fun but nothing beats having a collection of all the stuff in a book.
The one thing I do worry about is if these books won’t be useless once the specialized codexes for the various armies get released. I kind of hope those codexes focus on fluff and resist the temptation to introduce too many new things.
Awesome! Love both armies and the price is pretty much in line with the other boxed games produced by GW. With the discount from FLGS that will be fine by me. I’ve got a fair bit of old death guard around so I’ll definitely be adding to it although I’m not really a fan of the paint scheme they’ve got for them in this box.
The new marines will be a good addition to my Dark Angels, the only wish I would have is a robe upgrade kit for them!
*drool* Those Death Guard look lovely. I’m totally investing in the box. However I’m only after those sexy Nurgle minis so if anyone in the Portsmouth (UK) area wants to swap their nurgle for my marines let me know (assuming none of my RL friends want to)
Yea, I’m so excited to get my Bugs and Orks up again. Also, that new hardcover rulebook is so damn sexy. Well done!
Really looking forward to this, my only concern is will this sell out 3 seconds after it goes on sale?
Don’t stress, GW have said they’ve “made lots” and will make more as needed.
Command dice? Same concept as used in Bolt Action? One can only hope.
Alas, i suspect i’m not going to buy into this, despite the promising start. I was waiting to see if the Primaris Space Marines were the first in a line of miniatures that were going to be truer to scale, but looking at the new Nurgle miniatures, particularly the Plague Marines, this doesn’t seem to be the case. Not only that, but the new Nurgle contingent is somewhat cartoony rather than genuinely vile as i would have liked them to be. Otherwise this could have been a good starter set to bring me in as i very much like Plague Marines and Nurgle. I think i will perhaps buy some Primaris Space Marines and paint them up as ‘true(r) scale’ Space Marines.
Genuinely the first GW miniatures that I have looked at with both painters and players eyes since the Ogre Kingdoms first release about 15 years or however long ago. The odd model has said paint me but absolutely nothing has made me want to play… until now.
the new marines do look good painted up.
15 years. 15 years and I’m getting excited by ultrasmurfs (the Nurgle stuff is hands down awesome mind you). I’ve resisted, I’ve ridiculed them with the silly toilet seat motif but dammit, I feel like a giddy school girl! This stuff looks awesome! Now excuse me while I turn all my guardsmen and Dark Angels round by 180 degrees, I don’t want them to look at me like this…
Looking at the dual pistol wielding inceptor squads I see Horus Heresy design elements which I think is pretty cool. Then, as others have noted, a whole squad of plasma armed marines is also a Horus Heresy feature.
No doubt this is all part of Forgeworld’s success with the Horus Heresy but I can’t but wonder if this will also impact the fluff.
Consider that Cawl started the Primaris project near the end of the Horus Heresy at Guillman’s request. Now consider that some of the weapons are. new and improved. Is it perhaps because these are Heresy era weapons rediscovered? Perhaps the gene seed used to create the Primaris Astartes is not new and improved but original and pure and untainted by genetic drift. Perhaps the Primaris Astartes are what the original Astartes were like and the “standard ” Astartes are the lesser descendants.
Perhaps Cawl has access to all twenty of the original legions geneseed and maybe, just maybe, a second chance is available for the lost and the damned legions.
Maybe the loyal Luna Wolves will rise again …
just as a fluff thing how can these guys as new have service studs in the heads that only applied for long service ie 10, 50 and 100 years if they are new shiny and to use a army term CROW’s
Regular Marines can undergo the Primaris Process, which thus explains why you’ve got some with service studs.
Was wondering how they could have a “Primaris Ancient”. That clears it up nicely.
I guess I’ll be picking up the rulebook and the 2 Imperium index books, because I doubt they have included Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Imperial Guard all in one. Does anyone actually know what armies are included in which book? I mean Chaos is only 1 book so no problem.
The Indexes picture on the Warhammer community site is expandable and has the factions included listed on the front covers here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/warhammer-40000-launch-date-announced-may22gw-homepage-post-1/
I didn’t notice, thanks, I wasn’t paying attention when reading it I guess. I feel so stupid now.
All good, I didn’t either and was looking for same information and read it elsewhere.
Just had confirmed today from my local GW that Dark Imperium starter set is AUD $220
https://www.facebook.com/WarhammerMtGravatt/
“Warhammer: Mt Gravatt Hey Guys, we just got confirmation that the price is a cool $220 for Dark Imperium :-)”
Quick XE currency conversion 220 AUD =127.413GBP
How does that compare to UK pricing, seems high compared to 95 GBP speculation.
The eh jump pack marines with this kind of bolt pistol, seems they gona rivet something, aka removed panel on gun when on hand. And plague drone remembers me the ones at half life, when they chase you at streets and so!!