The Weekender XLBS: Plans for BoW & Myth Unboxed!!!
February 9, 2014 by dignity
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Woo!!! XLBS!!!
And more to the point, a kick starter sounds like a good idea, you can but try.
And ill get some pints in again for the meet up, ill try to not get @lloyd pissed again.
Backstager meet up thread to help gauge numbers and discuss venue.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/backstage-green-room/forum/topic/backstager-meet-up-salute-2014/
great show guys. I dont mind chucking you guys a bit of money (10-20 quid) if it helps get you some stuff, its a much better idea than the ones you had to get us to help fund GW stuff for unboxing.
Just so as I’m clear, our intention for the 40k stuff was to fund raise separately for its content, so only those who were interested in it could support it. 🙂
It wasn’t a fundraiser among Backstagers. 😉
okie dokie skip
MWG raised $37,472 on indiegogo to upgrade their equipment, so it definitely seems like something worth doing. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss taking the campaign to a crowdfunding site. If you run a campaign on one then the ceiling is potentially higher.
Another big determiner in how high the ceiling can go is what you can offer in exchange. Many people will be happy to pledge a little just to help out, a lot of people won’t pledge at all if it’s just to help out. All potential pledgers will be more likely to pledge and to pledge more if there’s l00t to be had. Looking at the MWG campaign, 101 out of the 247 backers pledged $50 for a Dark Potential starter set, and six more pledged $150 each for a larger DP army. A large amount was pledged for DVDs. As you don’t have your own wargame or DVD back catalogue then that’s a big chunk of the money that they were able to raise not available to you. I’m sure this is something you’re already aware of and are working on so excuse me if I’m teaching you to suck eggs lol.
3D painting tutorials aren’t something I find myself interested in, but they may be one of those things that you don’t realise you want until you have them. Painting seminars, either live and in person, or live via the web, are something I’d be interested in.
Going to GenCon this year means I’m not sure if I can make Salute or whether I could afford to stay over on the Friday, but if I do and I can, then I shall surely be at any backstager meet.
Our group has Myth coming 🙂
Yup KS is all about the rewards, but we may not be completely beat on that. However we don’t want to let fundraising get in the way of content, so we’ll wait and see.
I would tend towards keeping a crowdfunding campaign short. Long ones just tend to lag in the middle anyway and as you say, you don’t want to sacrifice content. I know from others who have run them that they can be a full-time job whilst they’re on. 2-3 weeks with a big build up is how I would run one. The campaign itself can be a content generator as long as it doesn’t drag on.
And to mark the occasion of the glorious return, I quote from Genesis 2.2-3:
“And on the seventh day God finished the work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all the work that he had done in creation, and sat down to watch XLBS.
Amen.
I’ll be up for a meet up, my brother has a pub in Walthamstow, which is relatively close to Salute, if your interested.
3D is an area we are a little split on. For painting tutorials we have a hunch that thy could be rather cool/useful.
But we have no means of testing that theory, so it’s down to, is it worth a punt on?
Personally, I can’t stand 3D, but as long as I get a 2D version as well, I’m not bothered either way. Think I’ll wait for holograms where I can spin the image around as the tutorial progresses, might be a way off though 😛
I can’t stand 3D. Gives me a splitting headache.
Also, consider the medium. You’re usually distributing your content through the internet. How many computer monitors, how many tablets, how many mobile phones, actually supports 3D?
Considering the price of the equipment and the extra work, I’ll give 3D a definite thumps down.
I’ll support any form of fundraising you guys come up with, would be a pleasure to help BoW.
Not all that sold on 3D myself, fine in the cinema from time to time but other than that I’m a little meh on the whole thing.
Myth! Oh my, as a big fan of Super Dungeon Explore I must have a copy of Myth.
Great show as always, Myth looks incredible I want a copy!
Is it publicly available or only to backers at this stage?
The new painting show sounds incredible and as much as it would cost me a fortune to send one of them from Australia I know of a few miniatures that I could send across being newish to the hobby my painting is probably perfect, I have some “tabletop standard” and some truly awful stuff.
Depending on how the fundraiser is done and how its done will depend on how I pledge, I would highly reccomend avoiding kickstarter, they take too big of a chunk.
And as far as 3d is concerned, I am not a huge fan of it, its feels gimmicky, in a painting tutorial I think it could work though but I dont have anything I could watch it on
What about holding a BoW tournament to raise funds for cameras? Winners can get a years backstage pass and a BoW t-shirt and all the entry fees go on equipment. I am sure you can find a sponsor for a venue?
Not keen on 3D tutorials, probably because I don’t have a 3D tv or glasses.
A meetup sounds good, depends on when and where. My Salute ticket arrived in the post already, woo hoo!
The question with 3D is how many of us have access to it. I think it might be worth having a pole for the whole of the BOW community to see how much it would be used. It would be a shame to use up a great deal of time and resources to only end up with another ‘Dreadfleet’.
Great show again, loving that Myth stuff, I didnt pay much attention to it when it was on kickstarter, but it looks like a solid purchase just from the contents. Look forward to peoples impressions on how it plays.
I think fundraising is a good idea, and although I think the 3d painting tutorials is a really cool idea, I do have to question how useful it would be.
Apart from everyone using tablets and low power laptops, most desktop PCs wont be capable of displaying it either, so how big a market would there actually be?
Personally, I don’t think 3D will ever take off for home use until its achievable without glasses.
I like the ‘fix a paintjob’ idea, and look forward to well filmed battle reports.
With some planning, imagination and skype you could probably have a game against miniwargaming for a bit of fun.
I’ve had a demo game of myth at Spiel. I’m a backer. First and only kickstarter for me so far, but I could not pass that up.
The game will be in stores around april.
It’s a blast to play. It really requires teamwork and give you loads of options, action wise.
My friends I had with me where completely convinced after one session.
Happy to support raising funds as we know it will be well invested
Just taking a backward step regarding mankini-stretchgoals, what happened to Justin’s food challenge from last year?? (The “lets feed him something terrible” one) 🙂
I would back a kickstarter. Some of the thing you could do for pledge levels are:
1. A level for backers to send in a miniature for a Painting tutorial with the backer getting the miniature back.
2. A level with some PDF paper terrain (Maybe from Battle Systems and others)
3. A free month of backstage.
4. Advertising levels for companies.
5. I am sure you could get some companies to donate stuff for levels.
6. Maybe BoW logo stickers, posters, or T-shirts
etc.
If you think 1 box was alot…. look at the amount of extras backers are going to get. I myself backed for 2 copies. Looking forward to a game play video from you guys.
3D interesting concept, would be good for those that have the tech, but redundant for those that don’t, unless you go down the 3D Gif route, see link http://www.wikitree.us/story/2052
Would definitely contribute to a BOW fundraiser for camera equipment and content. The Dicetower finished a similar campaign on kickstarter, so might be worth looking to see how they ran that.
As for doing the campaign on the BOW site or on a crowding funding site, it really depends which you think will generate more funds after the crowd funding site takes their cut.
I don’t have 3d capacity but think it’s something that would really work for most BOW content where minis are involved. Watch football, golf or snooker in 3d and you can see how the depth of field would work for a battle report. The limiting factor is obviously cost and editing time.
In terms of fund raising, why not utilise a fund distribution system not unlike the one used in the Humble Bundles for PC games. For example, 40% of every donation goes towards camera equipment and the remaining 60% can be allocated by the user between a number of projects, e.g. GW coverage, Demo games, Camera equipment (so 100% could be allocated to this if the user desires) etc. It might default to an even distribution between all the remaining projects but since the user can change it, nobody needs to feel like they are funding something they don’t care for, and if you set a ceiling on the camera equipment such as £8,000 then once the donations camera equipment donations reach that amount, all future donations to the camera equipment ‘fund’ will be divided equally between the other projects.
I’m just a little excited to see Myth. Hoping it won’t be too long before it gets to us backers.
Multiple copies, more minis, bigger adventures should definitely work. The KS had all sorts of add-ons for more orcs, more skellies, etc. all to embiggen the action.
Would be well happy to support BOW in a fundraiser, but……..3d? no thanks! I really don’t think you need to go down that route………
cheers
AL
Personally 3d painting is an interesting concept although admittedly I’m only Luke warm to the idea. However I think the Painting ER is a blinding idea. As for fundraising I’d happily throw a few quid your way, think the idea of some tournament fund raisers would work well.
Definitely up for the Backstage meet up, gutted I missed Nottingham.
Awesome to see The Weekender & XLBS back – always a treat for a weekend 🙂
Got almost the full works during the MYTH KS – really looking forward to that one arriving! (Though I am seriously getting snowed under with KS minis now 😉 – a wonderful problem to have!)
A fundraiser sounds cool – I’d def be on-board… could always group some past episodes onto a DVD/ download for backer rewards – wouldn’t cost too much and I’m sure others like me would love to have a complete collection of, for example, all the past painting tutorials :).
Not that interested in computer game content TBH, as there are already a tonne of sites that have that stuff covered and I feel like it would take time away from the great mini’s and miniature game content you guys do so well!
3D would be interesting but I’m not sure it’s worth the money and time – I’ve got a 3D TV but I can’t say I’ve ever longed to see a 3D painting tutorial on it 😉 … if there’s interest however, I’m happy to go with the community decision 🙂
Great to see you all settling into the studio!
Hmmm… there seem to be lots of smilies in that comment 😉
I’m not much of a video gamer but as long as any content didn’t eat into the tabletop content it wouldn’t bother me.
You might also try to do a fundraiser locally. The main question is: How many people do you want to reach beyond your current audience? If the answer is ‘none/a few’ a home-grown fundraiser might be just as effective and less costly, because you can use all the tools you have readily available (an anouncement video, forum posts, etc.)
Pendraken Miniatures succesfully funded a whole set of sculpts (Mongol army) for their historical wargaming range this way. Of course this was basically a pre-order scheme with tangible goodies. So it will be different for a BoW campaign offering ‘the promise’ of new and better content. But I think it’s worth a thought.
I like the plans for the future. Fundraiser would be ok for me since I’m impressed by the scope of your ambitions. Multi-camera battle reports etc sounds great.
1) I think a fundraiser, indiegogo or otherwise would be fine, I know I’d send money.
2) I think painting in 3d wouldn’t be worth it, I’d rather just more camera angles especially for battle reports or game demos.
3) painting ER also seems like a good idea
Myth looks great, can’t wait until I get my stretch goaled copy in May…
Great Video, I think getting some crowd finding in and your goals showing what project X amount on money is going towards and what this now enable you to do it s a great idea to.
On the note of Myth the key thing is make me thing of was Super Dungeon Explore, similar scale minis great artwork, and production of the project.
As for a project for Roman, how about painting up some of the Loka stuff?
Me painting Loka stuff ? Now THAT’s for the painting ER…
The Fantastic-4 returns with another XLBS, now my Sundays are back to normal again.
The new studio looks great.
A fundraiser for new equipment sounds like a good idea. But 3D painting tutorials… have my doubts about that.
3d sucks. I wear glasses and putting glasses on top of my glasses is not my idea of fun.
Besides, yet to see a movie where the effect actually provided something valuable…
3D Painting: cool idea but no thanks
Miniature ER: fun, if Romain is into it
Fundraiser: I think you should wait a while and settle into your new digs. Then, offer some BoW swag for donation. Is the problem that your cameras ae split between two venues now?
Salute Meetup: love to, but I’m in Canada
Myth does look good, but I already have Descent (both editions) and Mice and Mystics, so I think I’m covered. With painting tutorials, bigger doesn’t mean better, mostly just longer, so don’t be surprised if Romain chooses a minion rather than a boss.
Great stuff! I’m really excited to see more of Studio 1.
Yeah, I’m going to have to go ‘no thanks’ for the 3D thing myself, – I’d take a shot at saying that I don’t think enough people will have the ability / inclination to actually view 3D, if you do do it.
People from my gaming club do salute every year, but I never seem to find out about it until after it happens.
I’m sure miniature ER would be useful for a lot of people. Right now I don’t watch BoW’s painting stuff very often and I doubt making it 3D would entice me to watch it.
I’m glad there’ll be a 2D option for the painting videos as I won’t be able to view it in 3D. Although, if I could, wouldn’t be it a pain to watch when you’re trying to paint along with the video whilst wearing the 3D glasses?
I agree with what @nogginthenog said and Justin’s and Lloyd’s qualms about producing it and viewing it. I don’t think there’s much need for it to be in 3D as not many people have 3D TVs (or PC’s, I think) so what would be point of going to all that trouble for a gimmick that only a few can enjoy?
Why not make a poll like @lug45 suggested? Let’s see who can actually view it in 3D first.
I would be happy to put some money towards a fundraiser for equipment. I’ve been a backstager since it was actually possible and have no intention of stopping.
I am not really in favour of 3D. my issue is that it would take,(from what I understand) a fair bit of kit and time and I do not see the payoff in terms of the number of people that would actually view in 3D. I think you would need to pool your veiwership to see how many people could physically watch in 3D before going down that route. I coulent for example.
Finally, I am sooooo jealous of your copy of Myth. I backed that game and cannot wait until I get my copy. love the art direction and it’s also a cooperative game which I adore. Jealousy is ripping right out of me at the moment.
How about merchandise as a means of raising a bit of cash, small runs of 100 once-in a lifetime BoW shirts, key-rings and the like. Charge us full wack, and I mean a truly extortionate amount for them, you get to raise a bit of money and we few, we nerdy few, we band of gamers get a certain amount of bragging rights from getting to wear one haha
Great show lads, keep up the hard work – we all appreciate it
I think a fund raiser would be very popular. How about a well overpriced Backstager T Shirt to kick it off.
Friday night meet up sounds good but will need a bit of planning on my part for accommodation and work. This is my favourite weekend of the year, my normal plans are to travel up early Saturday morning spend shed loads of money on toys then on Sunday it is my first outdoor archery away shoot of the season. A whole weekend devoted to me. Then Monday it’s back to reality.
So excited to get Myth.
I kick-started a ridiculous amount of stuff for this.
You could tell from the videos on the kickstarter, that they were so passionate about the game it was going to be a certain thing!
Rumours are going around about a MERCS board game kickstarter coming up after they finish delivering Myth. Ask them about that! My poor wallet!
AWESOME ! ! ! you all are back yes. Now fund raiser time I’m all for it still have that OT money sitting in the bank to send to you all . And what you do with it is fine with me so try a general fund , along with Devoted fund raising , its all ok with me. 3D I really don’t know about that , putting on glasses and all ? Thanks for your time have an grand day.
3D leaves me cold sorry. I’d be interested as to what specific advantages you feel it would have over 2D, worried that may be a daft question. The other difficulty I guess is you almost want a proof of concept, which you can’t get unless you buy the kit.
Fundraiser sounds interesting, much more interested in kitting you guys up to do some awesome battle reports than looking at 3D paintbrushes!
I think the community have spoken lol
We’ll keep our eyes on introducing more cameras to the rig – espesially for battle reports.
And look at bumping stuff up to 1080p as a possible benefit of that.
Speaking selfishly, that’s sounds more like it for me! I run a cable from my computer to my (2D) TV, so 1080p is something I can get behind (oddly enough, the backstage looked ‘fuzzier’ to me today, compared to yesterdays video. – I think my computers misbehaving).
Yes, 1080p is the way to go!
Hmm, actually I think it’s been like that for a while. Since it is (presumably) the same recording equipment as used for the ‘Saturday’ show, I would imagine it has something to do with the encoding used by (or required by) Flowplayer when compared with the video that is hosted on YouTube. In the past this has manifested itself as ‘low-res’ HD or an odd colour tint to the XLBS video.
As Siygess says. The backstage vids are always crap quality image wise. Flowlplayers idea of HD is laughable in its SD-ness.
A few years ago nobody was clamouring for a 10 inch mobile phone you couldn’t make calls on but that didn’t stop Apple from releasing one and loads of people realising that they wanted one. If you think it’d be great and have the resources to do it, I wouldn’t write it off.
Agreed, and we typically work on this principle, but it only works if you have 100% belief in the project.
In this case… for the 3D bit… we didn’t have a consensus, so in those cases so as not to waste valuable time, effort and just as importantly brain space, we thought it best just to ask backstage.
I think it’s pretty much a resounding no, and to be fair that is a much more valuable response to us than a ‘maybe’ or ‘do it anyway!’ as there are much more important things to be getting on with.
But we had to ask, because if it was something that might have been popular we would have to look at a different line of kit from what we would normally.
All in all it’s a credit to backstage to give us such a clear sounding board on these things.
Lean startup at its best I think 🙂
Good point, well made 🙂
Love the idea of a painting ER. Great for Romain to highlight mistakes that probably a lot of us are making.
Great to see you back guys and glad the new studio is up and running! I really like the idea of miniature ER as I’ve a few critical cases. Have to agree with others here that I don’t have the equipment for 3D videos so no appeal to me but I would consider throwing in a few quid to fund some new equipment. Some little rewards would make it more appealing or even a competition for a cool prize to one of the “backers”.
Glad to see you guys are settling into the new studio. Looking really cool, can’t wait to see what you do with the place. A hell of a lot of work, but at least you can call it your own and nobody can tell you what you can or can’t do with it. I like that you brought the fireside chat in with you, lol.
As far as 3d, I think you could use the money in better places, but that being said, if you could raise that kind of money to experiment with it, you would be on the cutting edge. I admit that the geek in me would think it cool as hell to see a 3d battle report.
I would kick in some money here or on a KS to help you guys grow. I think a KS would probably get you guys more exposure, so more money and more fans. More programming is always a good thing, but I wouldn’t say no to the over-priced t-shirt with your logo either.
As always, great job guys.
The new studio looks great but I think you ‘do’ need some kind of front lighting ( even if it’s just reflectors ) as everything is slightly in shadow and obviously lit from above.
As for the 3D… Nah. I’ll pass.
Agreed, once it was edited we felt its a bit erm dramatic lol
But it was the first thing ever shot, so we’re not going to feel too bad about that. 🙂
Lets face it. I know you haven’t finished yet and things are still being tried out. But even as it is, it’s much better than a hell of a lot of other stuff out there. lol 😀
I would happily fund. But I don’t really have any interest in 3d.
Myth – KS’d it and am drooling over what I’m getting – basically treble the number of models in that box! Glad you got a preview box – I was confident you’d get one but nominated you anyway on the forum.
For your info there will be ‘expansions’ that you can buy including:
– more heroes
– additional horde races (e.g. elementals)
– Different game types, inc Slaughterfield (last hero standing against hordes)
Rule book is out there in PDF format – don;t have link to hand. You’re right about the size of it and I;ve questioned whether they should have a quickstart guide – especially to get friends on board quickly. Brian (Mercs) suggests you can get away with only reading a couple of the sections to get going.
Looking forward to more on this superb game on BoW – finally backstaged just to watch this (what else would I spend my cancelled WD sub on 😉
Waiting for my Myth KS as well! Glad you’re covering it, I find watching demo games helps to understand the rules faster.
A KS to get the studio up and running is fine. I wouldn’t go for 3D vids, my eyes don’t likes it.
Great to have you guys back and the studio looks outstanding! Would definitely jump on board with any fundraising and I would champion the idea of running with possible rewards and being based beyond the site to open up to new viewers. There are clearly drawbacks to KS in both monetary and journalistic terms for you guys (your consideration of the effects of the latter is why I love you!) but I wonder if the opportunity to bring in perhaps even a small fraction of KS browsers (or something similar) is of huge potential benefit. I only heard of Tom Vassel and Dice Tower through random KS wanderings, and this then led me onto the guys at Shut Up and Sit Down here in the UK too. I can’t imagine not visiting those sites every day now and they’re a staple of my regular internet consumption and hobby time – if you could bring in new people in this random way that could be fantastic!? I know I’m always scanning KS now in the gaming sections for new things – how many others do likewise I wonder? Both these set-ups (I know there not mini related) are doing crowd funding too at the mo – might be worth a look if you’re not aware of them, don’t know.
You would certainly have the support of the industry in terms of bundling up rewards I’m sure given all that you do for them. Perhaps a reward bundle could include stuff like a one-off BoW commissioned Mantic sculpt – Justin in a Mankini….? – (or just a Mantic model or some Mantic points on one of their point collector cards), a free Dropzone building or PDF like you’ve had before, a small discount code for Battlefoam, a couple of custom BoW dice, promo cards for games, specially written scenarios for bolt action or Merc- that sort of thing. It would take organizing sure (and I know not affecting output is key – but hey sometimes needs must for the greater good like you did studio 1). As for the partners, well this would promote their products and support you in promoting their products more effectively. It would definitely make me more likely to buy their products if they backed you and helped build the hobby…
Saying all that (and it might all be rubbish) I’d support you for nothing and I’m sure many of us here would – just trying to suggest how you might be able to draw in the masses…of course this could be something that is a ways down the line in the future. I’m sure you could get sufficient funds at the moment from the BoW community here for the gear. Even if you just ran a nice contest with a range of games, minis and stuff up for grabs from sponsors and with multiple winners drawn from the pool of backers that would be more than enough for me in return.
As for the rest, IMHO mini ER sounds FANTASTIC, 3D would be a cool niche thing to have over other sites but I don’t have a 3D TV -and don’t know many people locally that do tbh – but that could just be me :(.
Right, will shut up now as I have gone on enough.
Myth looks awesome too – really regret getting cold feet on it and pulling out, but hey, can’t get it all I suppose!
If you make it so I could get an official BoW patch to put on my gaming bag, coin, or something fancy I would gladly donate some extra pennies.
This all sounds fine and dandy… Especially Myth. Can’t wait for my copy.
3D is something I have no interest in, and I don’t think there would be much demand. I’d suggest you stick to good old 2d gear and focus on content rather than investing in a technology that looks to be very on the way out in the home.
I think you should be concentrating on content , the look of the site is perfected , just get out there , get to clubs/cons/shops.
I really do like this site , but you never seem to include fan content , a few years ago you asked for czars , nothing really came out of it.
It was a great idea.
Have you lost all contact with Tabletop , it was a great day out for GWG last year , I would hate not see something like that again.
Salute is on soon , do you have a table/booth , Im sure you could get hundreds of vistors , push your ideas there.
But most of all , dont loose us , you make the site we want to use , use us to further what is a great site.
I think we’re on the same page @synthetik
1) Since leaving Essex even with the studio build we have already been travelling to small events, and have many more already scheduled for this year 🙂
Infact now were almost finished with studio one (here) and studio two (notts) wait to you see studio three, which is a bit more mobile lol (and a unique fixer upper opportunity 😉 )
Things like tabletop day etc are still on the cards, but realisticly we need to find a larger venue for those, otherwise well just piggy back.
2) Were introducing and reworking things for community submissions, as each bit is finished we’ll let it loose. We’re hoping to just do this a bit at a time rather than sitting on it.
3) We’ll be at salute 🙂
Foundry in Nottingham have a large gaming area they let out for free for events. They can even put on a licensed bar.
Mobile beast or war? I have the image of the mystery machine from Scooby-doo with the beast of war logo on the side, or a VW campervan.
I see it more like Trotter’s Independent Trader’s 3-wheeler 😀
Nah, should be a bike with a sidecar lol
Can you rent a 3D camera and test it out?
Welcome back, have just caught up on The Weekender and XLBS.
Nice to see you starting to get settled into Studio One, will be good to see your other configurations. Great to hear that Romain will be coming across to do some more painting, just don’t let him leave again (sorry @elromanozo).
I’ll add my NO Vote for 3D, but YES for 1080.
Can’t wait to get my Hands on MYTH (April can’t come soon enough) I went double Captain so will have enough stuff to sink a small battleship. Some of the KS exclusives like the metal nameplates etc. will just help to make the game just a little bit more special. I’m also hoping that it gets people in my Club wanting to try their other game too (my poor Mercs sit alone).
Will be great to see you at Salute. I’m working on the Hasslefree Miniatures stand, so come and say Hi. Will be there Friday night so would be up for a Backstager Meet-up (and maybe some of the HS guys will join in too).
I do think 3D painting tutorials are a very interesting idea but as I have no way of watching them in 3D they would be something I would have to miss out on. Otherwise I would be happy to donate a little towards more equipment. Great to see you guys back again!
Hi guys, great show. I will help you toward the fundraiser. I love the idea of meeting up at salute, last year you guys were running all the time, or editing. It wasn’t very easy to speak with you. I still don’t know if I can go to salute this year as I might be away, but if I can I would really like to grab a beer with all of you guys.
I think one thing that could be improve is the games demos. They are great, but if you compare to ‘on the table’, it is a bit low key. I think there is room for improvement here.
Oh, change the carpet of the new studio, It feels very dark 🙂
Regarding the 3d, I don’t have any 3d friendly device so why not but I won’t be able to see this content.
Take care and we’ll done once again.
Ps: myth looks cool.
there is always Patreon as an alternative.
I agree with most that been said already – and just have one question
How long would it take before someone send a Heroclix figure to the ER ? 😉
Holy Smokes! You cant even strip those bad boys 😉
I mean if they can be fixed you have the man for it but ..Even I would not be that evil would I ? 😉
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I would support a kickstarter. I do not have interest in 3D. I would love more FTW and GW Fantasy batreps. Cheers!
I think 3d painting tutorials sound awesome, I wouldn’t be able to see them, but the option might push me to finally getting a 3d tv. I would support any fundraiser that adds to the content you provide.
Fancy dice are always a good KS low level pledge reward!
Not sure about 3d, I don’t have the ability to view or want to invest for the movie/tv offer either. But would be happy to contribute to a fundraiser, especially for BoW battle reports.
Great to see you all back guys, interesting shows and good content as always.
As for the 3D question. I think that painting tutorials in 3D is a good idea, but I also think that Battle reports would be better as it would give a good cinematic feel to the game.
I have a 3D tv and have also seen many films in the cinema in 3D. I have to admit that I like them but I do think they they always seem a lot darker against a 2D version of the same film. So if it could be filmed with more lighting I think it would get over the issues of the 3D glasses making the film look dark.
Just my opinion guys, but I do like the direction you are talking about for Beasts of War.
By the way my son and I are looking forward to saying hi at Salute again.
A Brief mention of LARPing. As a occasional Larper and CosPlayer ( Clockwork Watch ) I would recommend Nordic LARPing as an experience. Especially worth whilst is tracking down the Nordic Larp meetup group for London and chasing down Lee Thomas to see where he is at on his plan.
Not sure about the 3d thing, but the ER miniature idea sounds interesting. After all, you learn the most from mistakes.
Skip the 3D and man-kini “rewards” and for the ultimate stretch goal and set a number to eliminate the paywall segregation between Backstage and Normal content. It would simplify your content delivery. Just a thought.
Great to have XLBS back ! I’am not bothered about paint done for 3D though the painting ER sounds cool.Now that Johns back and you still have Romain would it be worth doing a show much like MWG quick tips?
So long as the video is available in 2D as well since I’m fairly certain most viewers wont have 3D viewing available on their home computers.
Ps… please enable the ability to leave comments during the video without refreshing the page, because now I have to start the video again and scrub forwards to where it was just at
Agree with the consensus, skip 3d, and happy to contirbute to a fundraiser of some description. BoW events sounds good, really enjoyed Tabletop day anei eating the team. Also would look forward to the BoW take on Battle reportsiPad the “learning” series like Dreadball Academy and the Mercs/Infirnity weeks. I have recently been really enjoying the learning Infinity bat reps over at MWG as well and would love to see a BoW take on this sort of thing, sort of themed week follow ups, more demo games etc.
More Romain painting tutorials of any sort all gratefully received, but think the 3d thing just too niche, not enough people with the hardware and a lot of the time I am watching the tutorials whilst painting to follow along or remind myself of a technique or stage and doing that with 3d glasses is not something I think I would welcome.
Studio looks great by the way, keep up the great work.
Lastly it hasn’t been said for a while, so i’ll drop it in , cough cough Turn 8 cough cough ;).
Pete
Myth looks great, I’m really looking forward to my kickstarter turning up!
Hi guys, any news on showing some details for Myth? Thx