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VLOG: Blowing Up The Weekender
September 6, 2018 by dignity
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If it makes you feel better @ warzan i lost all my keys this week and am running back and forth getting replacements? Just a bad Karma week lol!
@trewets Kevin would definitely agree with you on that one.
If it makes you feel any better, any better.. I was driving and my car died and slowed to an EXACT STOP on the railroad tracks, yeah thankfully two literal gangsters helped push me into a nearby parking lot.
It is far easier to get a Creative Sound Blaster or Turtle Beach sound card. The sound cards will be far better than the built in audio into the mother board. In the USA you are looking at about $160 for a good card. There are of course far more expensive and even professional level sound cards if you want to spend a lot more.
Oh the terrible irony:
@warzan is trying to get clean audio…
everyone in the office would have heard dirty words…
Not much use I know, but shit happens, if you were infallible, life would be boring.
I think most of us will survive a week end without a Weekender.
How can we help to fix it? Where’s the ‘Donate’ button?
I’ve dabbled a bit in audio production as a hobby. The ‘Aux’ 1/2 knobs you mentioned (on some mixers ‘MON’ or ‘FX’) are there for the purpose you describe…of sending a mix of the channels to and aux output or effects loop. There should be a separate output you can send back to the showcase PC that is driven by these knobs. Typically this is done for setting up a monitor mix for the vocalist or for processing reverb etc. and introducing back into the mix through another channel. PFL (pre-fader listen) switches the output entirely from the mix…if you have the aux channel set up the signal goes to both destinations at once (aux and main out).
As far as noise, may want to investigate the impedance and gain staging…and make sure not to introduce phantom power where it’s not needed ?. Sometimes there are switches per channel, or dedicated channels without phantom power. You could also try putting the output from the showcase PC (unbalanced line out) through a DI box ( which balances the signal)…then to into the mixer (balanced xlr in). Sometimes this can help with line noise.
the only constructive suggestion I can make is to cover the noise from @BoWBen with some smooth jazz in the background.
Do I need to send a SOS anzac parcel to help @warzan ??
Anzak’s are for victory, the cookies are the comfort food of failure 🙂
@warzan Think you need a pfl my to solve it
I’ll get my coat
So is it too on the nose if I make a joke about @warzan talking piffle?
Lots of areas of tech I can talk about but audio is not one of them, I guess it is a case of working through each step logically to see where the interference/hum is introduced going hop to hop. Certainly might be something in the quality of the cable if running also near power.
For client certainly in my own experience, I have seen huge sound improvements using Zoom instead of Skype. Depending on Ben router and the config in the office you could look at traffic shaping to prioritise this conference call traffic.
It is an interesting issue that when you work it out will be quite satisfying, I certainly found the introduction to a sound mixer interesting.
Here’s a link that might prove useful:
http://blog.radialeng.com/the-right-di-for-computers-in-audio/
Cheers ?
Very sorry to hear you’re having a tough day in the office. Things in the office have been strange over here as well. For instance, all day I’ve had this weird thought in my head that it’s time to buy some more donation Annual Backstage Passes. The damnedest thing, I can’t get it out of my head. 😀
It’s on days like this it helps to remember that have allies, friends, and supporters. If there isn’t a Weekender this week, or if the audio is different this week, we’ll still love the site. 😀
looks like the motherboard audio inputs you fried, if the PC starts up and you can use it just without sound id go for getting your hands on a PCI sound card which are cheap and set it up as handling the audio disabling the now fried motherboard audio in settings. Not being local i cant offer much help than that if Justin has a dedicated sound card borrow that to try the fix. its cheap and easy to replace usually depending on its spec were you to blow it. (if you were local ive got a cupboard of spares from all sorts of machines being a magpie hoarder i could have been useful lol).
i can sympathize with you though as i had my get some stuff done head on recently as well and by my own hand blew the motherboard on my 3d printer with a simple mistake. cue the swearing a large Rum then shit happens….slow down its less expensive….
I feel my silent movie idea for the weekender may be beginning to be taken seriously
I was thinking the same thing
What a technological nightmare to deal with. I feel for you guys. Fingers crossed for you and the weekender. Worse comes to worst I’ll be re-watching 3 Colors Up painting tutorials.
I do want to thank you for the sound board lesson. Seriously, those things look a lot less mysterious now.
@warzan Simple solution get Ben to move to Northern Ireland that will cut out a whole step in the process 🙂
I can’t offer anything but virtual hugs. Hope a solution is just around the corner.
Time to upgrade the siund boards from onboard to one that handles mic inputs
When you mentioned connecting XLR to the regular line-out I first thought that it couldn’t be done, but it looks like it is possible (yay for google : http://www.shure.com/americas/support/find-an-answer/how-do-i-wire-an-xlr-to-1-4-adapter-cable ).
I’m guessing you connected when the pc was powered on ?
I noticed on my dad’s pc that his onboard soundcard could switch inputs and outputs at the driver level.
He wasn’t getting any sound out of his speakers, because for some reason the port he was using for ‘stereo output’ had switched to ‘line in’. Switching it back to ‘line out’ fixed it.
So unless you’ve blown the entire audio circuit … there might be a chance that you can set one of the other ports as a new line-out.
You lost me after like three seconds of techno babble.. ?
Didn’t even notice the sound was bad in the first place tbh. but that’s probably age related..
I would miss Ben’s silky smooth voice but if push comes to shove he could hold up hand written signs as kind of low tech solution to the problem. No audio problems at all then and we could all improve on our speed reading skills. Just a thought ?
Wow its around 60£ for a soundcard but will that cover all the sound @warzan.
Oooppps. Everyone has a bad day or a mad moment, I think I invented them. If the PC powers up then I would suggest a decent sound card. Far better than the onboard audio (might be where some of the ‘noise’ is coming from. Anyway best of luck, onwards and upwards.
P.S. Could always try subtitles???? Thats not helping is it?
Why does the ‘internet’ in the diagram look like an infected spleen? Maybe that’s the cause of the background noise?
Was that in English, didn’t understand a word of it!!
Guys use the Aux sends, you can isolate the channels. Id say you blow the p.c alright.
Ok just rewatched the video.
To help clear up the noise take the line out (send) from the showcase p.c and in to channel One input (not xlr). Your phantom powered mic’s in to channels 4-5 as the are.
Connect your in-ear monitoring to Aux1.
On channel one turn the Aux1 up intil you get signal. That way you will hear only channel one in your in ear. Connect the line in (return) to the p.c and in to Aux2.
On channels 4-5 turn up Aux 2 and the signal will be sent back to ben without his voice.
A simple sound card like a second hand creative one will work fine. If you use a audio interface you may be forced to use a DAW (digital audio workstation) but most interfaces can be used in bypass( i.e as a sound card) Let me know what the firewire interface is and i can tell you if you can use it.
Hope this helps
Thanks for this! I will try this out next week! 🙂
Buy a USB external Soundcard.
Don’t bother with all the nonsense about how good they are vs an internal one. A mate uses one to run a internet radio show. The REAL advantage of these things is that you can stick it into ANY PC (or laptop) and run your frontdesk without having to mess around with installing soundcards and messing around with cables (it all ends up via the single USB). Just backup the software and settings and you’ll have less worries.
…they cost a little more than an internal card, but saves on time (and time is money). And if you should blow one up, you don’t need to open a PC case to replace it.
Meanwhile back in England, Ben is dusting off his resume’. Humor aside, I’m sorry that happened to you guys.