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@elessar2590 there’s a difference between an elongated sound and a long sound. take the vowel “A”. it’s short sound is “a” as in hat, it’s long sound is “ay” as in “hay”. Both of those sounds, because they are vowels which are open mouthed sounds, can be elongated although to do so we would normally insert a letter after the vowel, usually an r or a y, to denote that (e.g. ham and harm).
But regardless of how the correct pronunciation sounds to anyone’s ear, the double consonant is a grammatical feature of English grammar and spelling used specifically to protect the short vowel sounds. A single consonant after a vowel allows the vowel to convert to its long sound, a double consonant prevents it. Sometimes called the rabbit or the kitten rule.
Rabbit vs Rabit – the latter would be pronounced raybit.
Kitten vs Kiten – the latter would be pronounced – (k)eye-ten.
So it is objectively true that there is a correct pronunciation (which even GW themselves seem blissfully unaware of) and if Bazza from the pub plays Warhammer and pronounces it Bre-tonn-ia then Bazza from the pub is correct and you should listen to him because he knows what he’s talking about. Whether his cockernee accent makes it sound acceptable might be a different discussion (I wouldn’t know, I haven’t met him), but his pronunciation is at least correct.
@grantinvanman that may be true, but something keeps making you come back… It’s like crack, it’s a bit moorish. My personal view is that people actually like these sorts of discussions. Whether it’s because it’s a way to let off a bit of steam in a mildly amusing argument that really has no real importance or something else, I don’t know. Personalmente sono qui perché io trovo le discussioni delle lingue molto interessanti. I just find the way words are formed and their etymology fascinating, how languages can be so similar and yet so different and the rules (or lack of) that lead us to those conclusions. You would be surprised how much you can learn about foreign languages by just understanding your own grammatical rules and constructs and vice versa. As for how someone personally says “Bretonnia” is entirely up to them, I don’t really care. Why they say it is far more interesting because there is absolutely a correct pronunciation based on the rules of English.
This is almost as much fun as how to pronounce Celtic. I have always pronounced it celtic but there a number of people out there who say celtic
