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  • #1389553

    torros
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    Is the spray really special or is it just a selling point. I would like to see it on some 6mm scifi vehicles

    #1389567

    hairybrains
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    @chaingun cheers for the pics, nice to see the new paint in action. Did they say what is different about the new primer?

    #1389585

    chaingun
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    According to them the primer has been formulated to go with the contrast paints.

    Having had a go with the cream primer I would definitely say it seems to have a high pigment content and an almost chalky feel, but that might just be my interpretation. The grey primer was also the same as my son painted a figure with that.

    They did say that corax white primer is being discontinued and replaced with these.

    #1389821

    lordofuzkulak
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    Some pics of the new Necromunda stuff that’s been posted on FB:

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    #1389846

    phaidknott
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    Found THIS which hopefully shed a little light on these new fangled paints

    #1390024

    jamjarst
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    Is the GW “special” basecoat really needed for the contrast paint or will they work on any white base coat as long as it is smooth?

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  jamjarst.
    #1390032

    mage
    19757xp
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    I have to say, these look really good for ‘just one coat’. Imagine what combining them with a little effort would be like? Promising times ahead!

    #1390036

    lordofuzkulak
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    @jamjarst – I think any one will work; if you listen carefully in the vid phaidknott posted, you can hear the guy recording chatting with one of the GW guys and iirc the GW guy said you can put them over any basecoat.

    #1390044

    redben
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    They will work on any light primer (white-ish* or light grey) but their new primer is designed to work with these paints in particular. The initial underlying idea was to try and create a painting style that worked more like watercolours than oil painting, and so would need a paint designed to start with the lightest coat and get darker.

    I attended the seminar on it, painted a mini using it, and spoke to several ‘Eavy Metal painters about it, so will try and answer any questions people may have on the paints.

    *One thing I learned is that GW white primer (Corax) is not actually white.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  redben.
    #1390155

    robert
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    Where it might get really interesting is putting say a Purple contrast over a yellow undercoat, but lets not kid ourselves, this is essentially painting models with inks.  Good on GW though, if it helps people paint models and break down a barrier to people entering the hobby.

    #1390159

    redben
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    One of the techniques used by the ‘EM painters is to base coat the model and then use very thinned down contrast paints to build up colour on them. Similar principle to painting with lots of thin layers of glazes but with paint that has a lot of pigment in it. They reckon it made them great for blending and building up colour.

    When using them more as GW intend you have to paint extremely thick layers on, which goes against all my painting instincts. I obscured all the detail on the face of the mini I was painting and instinctively removed the excess but you’re supposed to leave it to dry.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  redben.
    #1390170

    robert
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    Just some thoughts on Contrast.  These are some of the things I did with washes and inks years ago.  Apologies for the bad photos but they are gloss varnished and not the easiest thing to photograph with a phone.

    IMG_1487IMG_1486IMG_1485

    I think what GW have done is get a transparency somewhere between an ink and a wash.  The top picture is wraiths done with purple ink and the contrast between shade and highlight is more pronounced on the GW stuff.  The bottom is just a green wash and the contrast is greater than the GW stuff.  The photo in the middle was done by dry brushing a black base coat with white then giving it a green wash.

    One thing Contrast will really show up is mould lines and flaws on the models.

    #1390174

    redben
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    #1390175

    redben
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    The above are non-studio paint jobs by GW staff members using contrast. Here is my first effort with a very limited palette – 9rJL6Ep%SJq3tJ0hnFd0%g

    If nothing else it will show that the final results will vary based on your skill level and experience of using the contrast paints.

    #1390179

    robert
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    I would think something organic with lots of detail will probably look better than smooth armour as well, though some of the Space Marines I saw didn’t look too shabby.  I don’t think it is the panacea for our lead piles that GW’s marketing department would have us believe.

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