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Knight Model’s Suicide Squad Revealed In Full
September 10, 2016 by brennon
We've had a few teasers over the past few days for The Suicide Squad from Knight Models for The Batman Miniatures Game and now the whole crew has been revealed...
The new movie version of Harley Quinn, Killer Croc and Katana have now been shown off and they're looking very cool. In fact we reckon that Katana is probably the best looking of the bunch in an awesome stance.
What do you think?
"...we reckon that Katana is probably the best looking of the bunch in an awesome stance"
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Full movie Suicide Squad is looking really good.
Nice, my favorite would either be Deadshot or Slipknot and now that they are saying this is one of the crews in the box we can safely assume it will be a 2 player starter box and after seeing the Joker henchman it is very likely that the other crew is Joker + henchman.
Bad movie, great minis.
I’m with you on this one.
It still was a better love story than Twilight 😉
That said, terminal Syphilis infection is also a better love story than Twilight… 😉
‘Terminal Syphillis Infection’? Is that a Statham movie?
Given his cinematic output over recent years, probably.
Doesn’t Harley Quinn look fat when compared to the movie version ?
Why do they include a character who merely existed to show the lethal punishment option ?
now would you say that to her face?
A very nice rendition of the cinematic characters in model form. There is plenty of detail, and they seem to work as a ready made sub-faction for the broader game. A rather neat little tie-in.
As for the movie itself, it was something of a mixed bag for me, though to be fair most of its problems were problems with the broader genre of comic book and ‘summer event’ movies, specifically a somewhat generic plot line (mass produced scary sky portals! Every bad guy needs one!) and a weak antagonist (though if you view the movie differently, and think of Viola Davies’ excellent Amanda Waller as the true villain, and Enchantress more as a consequence of her attempt to bind metahumans as tools of US foreign policy, then the true villain of proceedings is rather more compelling).
It did have some nice character work though. Alongside the aforementioned Amanda Waller, I particularly liked Will Smith as Deadshot, even though it was basically Will Smith playing Will Smith in a Deadshot costume – the man’s likeability has always been his greatest acting asset (and I really don’t care that the comic book Deadshot is White and has a death wish – this is an adaptation, not a direct transfer from one medium to another). Margot Robbie was a great piece of casting as Harley Quinn, capturing many of the aspects of Harley’s fractured and mercurial psyche and affording her character a good range of expression from full on manic craziness all the way to quieter and even confessional moments, and all done in an outfit that must have been uncomfortable and distracting in equal measure. Even Jared Leto’s controversial Joker worked for me, being no more divergent from the comic book incarnation than Heath Ledger’s masterful interpretation of the character – a Joker who has legitimately warm fuzzies about Harley (rather than the horrifying abusive tendencies of the relationship as consistently poorly handled by DC ever since the character of Harley Quinn first came into existence in the in most regards excellent Batman the Animated series; a cartoon – with a significant segment of its audience being children – that worryingly presented domestic violence as Laurel and Hardy/Three Stooges style physical comedy. You really have to wonder what was going through Bruce Timm’s and Paul Dini’s minds at the time) is no more of an issue than a Joker who is a politically motivated terrorist (the comic book Joker has rarely cared about sending a message to anyone but Batman).
Though that said, plenty of the other characters were paper thin (Croc, Katana, Boomerang, even Flag – all are offenders). You just expect more consistency from a director of David Ayer’s caliber.
To be fair to David Ayer, I don’t think what we saw was his movie. It may be that his movie wasn’t very good, we’ll probably never know, but I wouldn’t blame him for the mess the final product became. That’s on the studio for getting another group of people to re-shoot scenes and re-cut the movie.
Also on that topic, and directly pertinent to this, I’m told by a friend (yes, a friend, so take it for what you will) who works in the industry, that these studio franchise movies often make major changes in post-production without the involvement of the director, who can’t then take his or her name off the movie if they don’t like the final cut. The most recent Fantastic Four movie is a good example.
I had heard that editing shenanigans on a par with those that bedeviled BvS might have befallen Suicide Squad as well. I wonder why Ayer has remained so quiet on the topic, assuming that this is the case? I suppose he is just trying to be loyal to the cast and stand by the finished product warts and all, though in his place (and if I actually had any talent at all) I would have been outraged to have my creative vision chopped into pieces after the fact, both on my own behalf and on behalf of the actors who probably had one version of the characters in mind during their performance only to see editing and reshoots used to present entirely another on screen.
Perhaps we will get the see the original intent of the director in something akin to the BvS Ultimate Edition somewhere down the line? Though I had heard that Ayer insists that no director’s cut or any equivalent is currently planned, which would seem to to throw doubt on such an outcome.
I don’t know if this applies in this particular instance, but I’m told that the director can’t usually take his name off the final cut with these franchise movies. The studio have a lot of control over the final cut and the director has to live with it. It’s one of the reasons that the likes of David Ayers and not James Cameron do these movies.
I see your point @redben – the money men (or money women) get what they want in most cases, even when that actually harms the bottom line when all is said and done. It can’t be an easy pill for the director to swallow, but if you don’t have the pull to do anything about it you just have to cut your cloth as best you may.
I’m pretty sure that the decision to include major reshoots was done by management with practically zero input from the director. I doubt he had the motivation to tell them to stick it where the sun don’t shine because when all is said and done this is just another job that pays the rent. There are very few director/producers with the money and reputation to force their vision onto celluloid (and that isn’t always a good thing either …)
It’s a shame really, because the idea of a comic book equivalent of the Dirty Dozen with characters like Harley Quinn is solid. I’m not sure Amanda Waller needed to be as dark and evil as she was though. However I don’t know anything about the comics, so it might have been true to the source material.
And to be brutally honest … I think the Joker did not work at all. He didn’t get the screen time he’d needed to be anything other than the crazy boyfriend for Harley.
It was the negative reviews of BvS that scared WB into ‘fixing’ stuff that may not have been broken to begin with.
“It was the negative reviews of BvS that scared WB into ‘fixing’ stuff that may not have been broken to begin with.”
The impression I’ve gotten is that it was one part that, and one part the success of Deadpool, which seemed to push the studio into wanting the movie to be something other than it was. Rogue One seems to have undergone a similar process, hopefully with a better final result.
oh god Deadpool.
That was one seriously funny movie. If they wanted to match that and had the disaster that was BvS then the executive meddling makes even more sense.
The attempts at ‘funny’ moments in Suicide Squad do kind of hint at that when I think about it.
To be fair @limburger, Amanda Waller pretty much is that ruthless in the comics as well (she is nick-named ‘the Wall’ because she is so uncompromising, after all). In many ways, she was the true villain of the movie – her misguided attempt to turn Enchantress into a tool of US policy (and a means to pursue Waller’s own personal advancement) set the events of the movie in motion – and while that is not usually the case in the comics, she is always ruthless, manipulative and more than happy to kill people she considers disposable (pretty much everyone other than herself) to achieve her ends. She is so intimidating and confrontational that she has even managed to face down the Bat himself.
The movie did seem to bear all the signs of… let’s just say the kind of overly enthusiastic editing that holed the cinematic version of BvS below the waterline (with the Joker seeming to be the biggest single casualty of those cuts in Suicide Squad). Whether the editing was undertaken as a panic response to BvS reviews as you suggest, or as an attempt to inject more humour into the movie to try to follow in the footsteps of Deadpool as Redben describes, or a bit of both, we will likely never know unless some kind of director’s cut or ultimate edition comes to light in the future.
I agree with you though – this movie didn’t bother me because it was a bad movie per se, not being much worse than many of its peers (it wasn’t all that bad to be honest, and was mostly fun as a piece of mindless popcorn entertainment – I have seen far worse. I’m looking at you, live action Green Lantern movie…), but because it represented such a missed opportunity. As you say, the idea of a Dirty Dozen set up with DC characters has great potential, especially when you have such strong characters to work with paired with such a talented cast. This movie could have stood amongst the best examples of the genre if things had been just a little different, and that is a real shame, especially considering how badly DC needs a stand out DC cinematic universe movie right now.
Nice mini`s, they will make a nice present for my son in December.
nice figures great paint job.
i still prefer the comic book versions!!
I’m glad to see these figures from the movie and I’ll definitely get a set. I went to see this at the cinema with no expectations of what it would be like and was plesantly surprised. I don’t bother with reading any online speculation or spoilers about movies before release, nor do I read any reviews before I’ve seen a film. Increasingly this seems like the best policy as all too often I hear comments from my friends who really ought to be pleased by seeing something on the big screen who have had the experience ruined for them by taking in someone else’s opinions. I think we should all make up our own minds without having that ruined by someone with an agenda.
Are you suggesting that anyone who thought it was a bad movie was influenced by someone else, and if you ignored everyone else you would enjoy it? I can assure that is not the case for me. The movie is an incoherent mess. Looking into it further just allowed me to understand why it is an incoherent mess, and allowed me to cut the director some slack, instead of blaming him for making an incoherent mess.
The minis look exceptional and the painting is a true piece of art. It makes me wish I could match that quality of painting.
As for the movie they are based on, I think many have said what I was thinking already above. I had the hype and interest to be a great movie, yet ended up being just average. Have they not learned yet the key to a great super hero movie is in making a great villain?
The movie is proper cringe but the models look good. Every lad should have a mini Margot Robbie in their lives.
Personally I’d prefer a full-sized Margot Robbie…
KM continues to put out absolutely stunning models. I certainly can’t paint them this well, but even with a mediocre paint job they still look pretty good on the table.