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Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought
July 2, 2011 by brennon
Oh now here’s a different looking dread. This is the Contemptor Pattern Dreadnought from Forge World and I got to say I like it allot, but is it 40K Space Marine?
It’s based on the Pre Heresy Dreadnought and the kit looks great and very posable, infact BoW Romain thinks it’s “F-ing Great” and that this is how a Dread should be, but I like the tin can dread.
If this was for another game I’d be all over it singing its praises because it looks great... but it feels strange to me. Even though it’s based on Pre Heresy design I'm just not sure if it’s 40K. Perhaps I’m just suffering from pushback and in a month or so I’ll be loving this.
Let’s hear what you guys and gals think of it.
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40k space marine? no!
30k space marine? HELL YES! 😀
40k space marine? no!
50k space marine? HELL YES! 😀
Looks more futuristic than the current tin can dreadnaughts! I’m liking the, although they are very reminiscent of the recent Dreaknight styleeeee! 😛
look further down nobzey and tasker basically explain why it looks the way it looks. They were made in a Golden Age of technology (M15-M25) were machines* and humans built technology that most people in the 40th millennium dont understand anymore – the understanding got lost during the Age of Strife ( a side effect of the birth of Slaanesh that covered the whole universe into warp-storms ) in late M25 early M26 and a rebellion of the Iron Men (quelled by the Men of Stone)
and the Dreadknight is built after planes that were designed at the very same time.
* ( aka the “Iron Men” -powerful if not godlike AIs – because mankind reached a point were there own intellect was to limited to make the next step in technological evolution, so they had to built machines [actually they had a race called the “Men of Stone” built them for them] that would be able to construct new technologies )
planes = plans/schemes …sorry
Don’t forget technology hasnt improved – it’s regressed! they don’t even understand half the crap they make nowadays !
Like GW…
Haha, epic call. I laughed out loud.
Thanks, I had to clean my cup of tea off the computer screen because of that 😛
Indeed very “I’m one of those 10 000 Dreadnoughts waiting in the catacombs of the Imperial palace under the Golden Throne should Chaos decide to try it again!” look ;). Really looks awesome if you want to build an extremely Venerable Dreadnought :). That might still remember the Primarchs and the Emperor himself ;).
Those, like Bjorn Fellhanded, still sit in usual dreadnoughts. And surely the Space Wolves would put Bjorn into one, had they some of these types left. As one of the largest chapters, who if not them?
Anyways, I dislike the clean look of this model. Might work for 30k or in fact 25k, but it has to fit on a 40k table, or be gone.
Its experimental rules are good aswell, and for the time being it can also be used in Codex:Chaos Space Marines aswell as all the other marine books.
It puts Tactical Dreadnought Armour into Perspective . . .
It looks great – but I see it as something I would have associated with well…Warpath lol. Also – I it suffers from the old thing of ”this looks more technologically advanced than the ones that are from its future” thing lol.
Tis a really nice model though, very cool.
You gotta remember that this is how a lot of the technology is in 40K. The Imperium lost countless designs and had to remake them usually not as well. Take the Land Raider, that was old technology that they found the specs for again. So when old stuff looks cooler than the new stuff it makes sense.
As Nobzey says.
The reason it looks more advanced is because it is.
These are from an age when the Imperium still knew the science behind how and why things worked.
In the current 40K universe they have no idea how 99% of the old stuff was even constructed let alone how it worked and have to make do with the 1% that they do know.
little problem is that the las-cannons are actually modern ones from the 40. millennium. but a HELL YEAH from me for the rest of the model !
It’s cool but looks more like a buffed terminator like a smaller more armored dreadknight
that is the point ! its from the times of the Horus Heresy and the terminator armour is also called “tactical cybot armour” BECAUSE it once was a smaller version of a cybot.
I really dig this design. If I was filthy rich I would be 2 or 3 of these guys right now.
It looks like the ones that were in the Stompers box from the old edition of Epic.
It looks like a dreadnought crossed with a teddy bear… and a tin can
Looks good though!
Once again forgeworld bring somthing out that looks amazing and as I never really liked the old chaos dreadnought I cant wait for these to feel the touch of chaos!
Hmmm, dont know what I think. Yea looks great, but I prefer the normal one.
Looks small or sumthing. Not because it is small maybe, but because of the rounded body.
Not a fan of the torso either. Looks too bulbous IMO. The legs are very nice though, they look like they’d be striding across the battlefield rather than doing plodding baby steps like the current ones seem to (most noticeable in the PC games). The arms also look better; far more articulated.
I think I’ll end up taking bits from both kits and creating my own version. Keep the torso from the current kit and take the arms and legs from this kit. That way you’ll lose the clumsy look of the old dread with the added bonus of not having a chest that looks like it was made from a beer keg.
These are great! Might have to get one, would go with my RT era marines 🙂
Oh, and if you go on the Forgeworld site. You’ll see its actually bigger than a regular Dred.
Almost tempted to do a small pre-Heresy blood angels list just so I can get some of these, they look damn nice
@newtodeath
I think I know what you mean
Like the look of the walker, but am confused by the size of the “sarcophagus” and the position of the head.
Is there a knacked old vet dude in the tin, or just his head and torso?
Nice model though.
In the original 40K they were called Dreadnought suits and had living pilots not corpses inside, which means they need room to move.
actually its because of the large shield-generators inside as they had a force field to protect them as the nowadays titans + the large engine they needed to power it up
Doesn’t make what I said any less true though… :p
… Well, except for maybe the fact that the pilot couldn’t move as he was encased in goo that kept him immobile and alive while he piloted with his mind via electrodes in his helmet that gave his senses to the suit.
no no it wasnt to disprove your point ^^ it was an addition ( maybe the wording wasnt the best sorry )
Hehe. I know, it just gave me a chance to ammend what I said about the pilot needing space to move. 😀
How can you build the 2 arm option is the arms able to be turned around?
Looking at the pics that would seem that he thumb is placed in the centre and the fingers are of equal length.
So the hand can fit on either side
The pics don’t show it well, but it looks as if the arm is built of several pieces, the shoulder socket, an upper and lower arm, the “wrist” ring to fit the fingers into, the fingers themselves and then the ammo and muzzles or fuel tank and nozzles for the storm bolter/flamer option.
Other than the ugly gun, this looks like a warmachine mercenary warjack.
whats amusing GW thought warmachine looked like Dreads so sued PP allegedly
Actually there are Dreadnoughts in the old version of “Epic” called “Space Marine” – 2nd edition version of that had these in circa 1991 – Where PP even around then?
“but is it 40K Space Marine?” Lloyd, I’m sorry but that is a pretty dumb question.
It is a 30K design from the great crusades, it matches up damn well with all pre-heresy/heresy artwork and is a damn sight closer to the original dreadnought model than the current iterations are – which is basically the whole point.
They’ve also managed to do it in such a way that it does not look more like it belongs in Warmachine, with some pre-heresy artwork does look a bit too much like.
that is fantastic….I can see the RG , with there ‘older’ equipment getting this. its stunning
I was just about to say that yeah, its not 40k :). The designs back then were heaps rounder. Studs on shoulders pads. I tihnk this design looks much more like a furth upgrade to the terminater stype armour. As far as progresion goes. Then it turned more into the life support system and enclosed armour we no now. At least thats how it looks 🙂
No its not 40k cos it’s pre heresy tech.
Tony Stark built this in a cave out of scrap! it’s awesome
Always thought the Pre-Heresy period is where the game should be, such cooler visuals. That model is ace. Really love it.
I smell an expansion
it smells like chicken
Sorry didn’t read the heading looked like a new Warmachine
Does anyone else get Battletech feel from those.
It’s a lovely nod to the 1st/2nd edition ones, and hopefully an updated castellan and furibundus will follow – the biggest bonus is that it’s an option that’s not blinged to hell. Bring it on. Might just keep playing 40k after all – 3rd or 4th Edition of course – I’m not downgrading!
Sorry, castellan was robot wasn’t it? Deredeo…
And yeah, the overall body design is just “dreadnought” – silly me. I was getting mixed up with robots for a second…
Hey look its what the Dreadknight should look like
Well there are already pre-heresy stuff showing it……
Then there is the art work from the Card game from what 8 years ago?
Oh and who remembers 2nd Ed Space Marine cira 1991? Where PP even around then?
Oh and who remembers 2nd Ed Space Marine cira 1991? Where PP even around then?
Hmm can’t edit comments no more………..
;(
What arms are included?
What’s the forbidden stuff?
no arms included you have to buy them separately, and the forbidden stuff will probably released with an upcoming Imperial Armour book ( I guess ) …but Ill try to reconstruct this parts as you can still guess what letters there are the thing under heavy flamer is definitely again something with “heavy”
It does not have two arms available they both seem to be right arms.
the fist can be assembled as both a right and a left arm.
so every marine army, even traitors, can have one, except … grey knights, the main marines who i would say that it would look best with. and they don’t get one. sooo not fair 🙁
because actually they arent a space marine chapter and were never one of the Space Marine Legions they simply were founded in a time were these machines werent produced anymore
kind of reminds me of these guys
^ Those guys were on the opposite page to the Dreadnoughts in the Blue Catalogue. Very similar though – Gotta love the robots.
The Contemptor class was the twin Power Fist lad with long legs. WIth a Lascannon or Missile Launcher instead was a Deredeo, and with short legs was Furibundus. Apparently. – It’s been a while! 😛
That is what a dreadnought should look like! To me the ones now look like a torrent with legs.
I get what Lloyd is saying, after 10+ years of basically the same old dreadnought design its like my brain refuses to accept that this is a dreadnought, even though I really like the model I can’t quite make it ‘fit’ in my head…
I would be tempted to get one though as it looks very cool.
I didnt like it, from the thin waist, the feet and the back that is the same of the ordinary dread. As a modelist this model did not get me intersted, as a 40k player i would expect a little more…
allot: to apportion, distribute or allocate.
a lot: a great deal.
I love the look of the Dreadnought and have been waiting for years for a kit like this.
I like it A LOT.
I think the models look amazing, not surprising since Forge World are incredible sculptors. These dreadnoughts almost look like they could be used as Grey Knight Dreads from the look of them, and since they get all the flashy kit, I think you could pull it off
No its not battletech its….
ITS A GUNDAM!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lvJ6eFcCJE
Under the Dreadnoughts.
E sorry ….. what was the name again ?
Awesome design, love it, so tempted to do a Pre-hersey Dark Angel Army. Infact i think the next book and rules/models Forgeworld should do is pre-hersey/stuff, or better still with the release of these and the hersey mark armors do a game in the Horus Heresy!(not card game)
Do I hear somebody calling “Horus Heresey Wargame” or maybe evena “30k Wargame” over there in the far corner?
Some in the near corner are shouting out “Warmachine”.
I THINK I like it better than the current boxy one thats mostly used now. Looks kinda like a giant even more mechanized terminator suit. Nice:-P
Is it just me, it seems that 30k is cooler than 40k? In any case once again FW proves that they have true designers where as GW don’t……… with exception to the Dark Eldar.
well before the Horus Heresy ( and even during it for that matter ) the state of technology was greater than in the current 40k universe as alot of the technology was lost when Mars went renegade. Theres also the fact that, stupid as it may sound, the imperiums filing system is total bull ( this is covered some-what in prospero burns ).
They dont really file stuff as more put it all in a big pile!
They need to get this guy to sort it out
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Having built one I can confirm that they are smaller than you’d expect..
danm didn’t post the pic..
nope, no 40k !!!!!
Please don’t try to change everything in the name of profit
i t one so that i can use it for a V dread in my grey knights would just need to build the arms so that i could use tl-atuocannons
i like this one. I will have to make all of my dreds with this type. its taller then the one we have now. and it looks like it can move faster. I like all of the pre HH. they should make a full army with the HH.
This is a dreadnought.
I’m thinking to buy each pre-heresy model copy them and make several legio astartes(death guard, iron wariors, bood and dak angels…)
Actually… it sorta looks like a WarJack, you know? that or a really fat terminator
Looks great but where is the “Titan” codpiece? :-p
Look awesome. Make me want to do a pre heresy dark angel army, but It would be a little to expensive for me with all those Forgeworld stuff. But someday maybe……
This is a lovely model inspired by the old plastic Epic dreadnoughts. It just begs and inspires conversions. I did a photo mash up for conversion ideas, which can be seen at my blog here:
http://bonds-skin-instantly.blogspot.com/2011/07/forgeworld-new-release-contemptor.html
As someone who is generally not a fan of the “skulls skulls everywhere” look I really like the more classic sci-fi style of this dread. I’m also a huge fan of mechs and walkers of which there does seem to be a fair gap in the wargaming market at various scales.
End of the day though is this model £50 ish nice, for body, 2 arms and postage … that I am really not so sure of.
I wonder if an Allot is a relation to the Alot? http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
They look a bit too ‘Matrix’ (just like the Dradknights) to me. I’d like to see how well it takes to conversions, but for now, I’ll be holding off. I’m still trying to save up to get a few squads of the earlier Marks of SM armor.
What I’d really like is to find one of the original MkI Dreadnoughts from the Rogue Trader days. Still think they’re awesome in a totally cheesy way!
i still love the look of the space crusade dreads(robocop ed 209)
i like it but like this home made one more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjO8kkGgwk
cool one !
I’m a bit worried here, as is this a midway warhound titan or a space marine pre-dread knight (my least liked Space Marine The lovely Dreadnought was made meaningless by the DreadKnight, so is this a sacrificial offering to appease the Techmarines?
I like this over the regular dread for sure. If I ever play marines again I’d get this. I never liked the box with legs. There’s so many more dynamic positions you can pose it in.
I had to get one, My one is on pre-order. I am getting it to go with my Leman Russ primarch sculpt