If you think about it would make sense to give AP to close combat weapons like chain swords becouse those are supposed to be more powerful than your basic combat knife or regular sword. Whats the point having weapon with chainsaw like blade if its not more effective than any other close combat weapon.

I agree. Chainswords have always been ‘blah’ in terms of rules, despite fluff that makes them sound cool. Just the idea of a chain-weapon is pretty awesome. That might now be reflected in the game.

Hmm, probably means terminators will be more survivable as Darrell says, because if power weapons are only ap3 2+ saves will be far more useful. This will probably be worse for the armies with lots of poor armour saves, as I can’t see common weapons like chainswords and choppas getting too good an AP value when they ignored no armour save in this edition.

Problem is, all it does is help marines. GW has marines shoved so far up their ass, I’m surprised they just don’t come out and say marines win every game. Honestly, any army with a saved that is not base 3+ is gonna get screwed by this. Horde armies really take a hit. Now, even their meager save is going to be useless. GW should just kill off all the races that aren’t MEQs because rule wise, those armies won’t survive anyways.

And yes, I’m sick and tired of GW’s marine biased gameplay. 🙂

As Tau, this means nothing to me, I don’t have power-weapons! Unless they give special rules for Battlesuit weapons… Oh wishful thinking.

Ravenwing will LOOOOOOOVE this rule.

It makes me wonder about this, power weapons being AP3 and if FNP stays more or less the same (taking note its in the GK codex which I believe is meant to be for 6th). Then Draigowing pallys get their 2+ armour then FNP… I don’t think so.

I hope this rule doesn’t come in, 2 of my friends play orks and they have a hard enough time as is. The only army that really benefits from this is marines.

There is a mechanic for hordes in combat. Its called a bucket of dice. If an ork choppa gets an ap of 5 say, then they simply become more killy than now. They will ignore the armour of things like Eldar guardians, impy guard and other orks. I t changes nothing for them attacking marines (big whoop). Marines with an ap 5 chainsword on the otherhand now deprive an ork of its 6+ save. Again big whoop. Currently if a tactical marine squad charges an assault squad they are essentially the same. a tac marine charging has 2 attacks and… Read more »

My tau are deader than they already are.
My foot eldar are deader than they already are.
Now, what I would like to see is AP for power weapons also effect invul saves. That way you could have an AP 4 power weapon that effects 4+ invul but not 3+ invul. Sort of like the rumors of different levels of instant death and eternal warrior.

Oh my god guys, the sky is falling!!

Or, maybe we can’t judge the entire ruleset based upon one rumour. The rumour is basically meaningless when taken completely out of context like this.

So Powerfists and Thunder Hammers are going to be mandatory in the next edition. . . Terminators are going to be needed as well. Question I will have is if things get an ap value does that mean I can use a Plasma pistol or Infernus pistol as their AP2/1 respectively?

This is probably the first rumour I’m not keen on, just something about it makes me think it wouldn’t be that good :/

I don’t think its a good idea to give the chainsword itself an AP value since every model and kit since about 1997 has been designed with the idea a chainsword and a cricket bat are the same under the rules- just as an example look at the imperial guard, Catachans have conventional swords, Cadians have chainswords, the codex calls them both close combat weapons. What that’ll cause is a whole bunch of arguments weaseling out with phrases like “monomolecular edges” etc and suddenly every close combat weapon counts as a chain sword anyway. That’s not to say it won’t… Read more »

While I like the idea of having consistent weapon profiling for ranged and close combat weapons, and I think it could add some more variety to equipment loadouts, I very much doubt it will happen primarily because I’ve been hearing constantly about how current codex releases are written specifically to be forwards compatible with 6th edition, and it require reams of FAQs etc to bring everyone up to date.

what about elite power weapon armed units like bloodletters, incubi, sanguinary gaurd and similar; they will now have no hope whatsoever at killing termies

This will spice up Draigowing A LOT. Put enough attacks in with Falchions etc to try and wipe the squad out knowing the only thing that will force an invun is a powerfist. Would be interesting to know how it will affect nemesis force weapons though.

Put the Banshees away. They are no longer Terminator Hunters.

Uhm i dont think anyone has mentioned this before and dont get me wrong i really like this rule but think about how much dumber paladins become when the only things that can hurt them are power/chain fist that pretty much means that nothing in close combat takes their saves away at least before you might get a wound thru with a power sword or something