The Weekender: Digital Wargaming & Win Demigods Rising Minis!
August 16, 2014 by lloyd
We're back for another awesome Weekender and we're focusing in on how the tabletop and digital realms can be perfect partners! You can also comment to win some of the amazing Demigods Rising prototype miniatures!
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As well as that Warren will be gushing over the big new Tyranid from Forge World and we'll be delving into a bunch of massive conventions going on this week - one of them might be Gen Con, maybe?
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I Am First Today Yeah!!!!
yay I’m 2nd 🙂
Go on then I am No 3…:D
Orc cant count that high
I was actually up very early today so surprised it was already up.
Great video again guys, thanks, I have to say I think the minimalist look of that tabeltop computer game is probably to differentiate it from Total War. It is never going to compete with that franchise whatever they do, so why allow the connection? Its a digital version of our hobby, and it looks like it. I think its probably the right route to take. Some better textures could probably make it look much better though, whilst retaining the simplicity.
Warren, I think you are a bit wrong regarding the reasons why 30K would be difficult to sell as a movie. It is not a lack of sex but, a lack of female characters at all. I almost would say are females in the 40k universe extinct ?
I think this is a problem in general. That is half of potential movie goers left out.
Actually the Horus Heresy novels contain many female characters. Granted, all space marines are male, but in the novels you get to see the bigger picture. Space Marines do not exist in a vacuum. There are also ships crews, Imperial Army, astropaths etc. many of which are female.
I think the biggest mistake you could make in a 30k movie was to make it just about space marines. A wider audience needs a way in to this universe, a character they can identify with, but also you only appreciate what the space marines actually are when you see them alongside ordinary humans.
A 30k movie would need major characters who are ordinary men and women as well as space marines, just as the novels do. Just as Star Wars is told through the eyes of the droids, the Horus Heresy could be told from the viewpoint of these humans caught up in great events and, just like in the novels, there is you sex/love interest; between the mere human men and women of the nascent Imperium.
The problem how this IP is perceived. Male oriented. Remember that even Star Wars was criticized for the same reason.
Totally agree, that’s a big problem with the model range. In fact one of the most common complaints about 40k I hear from people I know is how the miniatures don’t do a good job of portraying the fluff. If anyone came at 40k by reading the books first they wouldn’t be asking why they’re are no women in 40k, but rather why do none of the female characters have models?
There is a glimmer of hope in regards to Horus Heresy. FW are currently working on Imperial Army for 30k and have said that they would like to do some female soldiers and officers to accurately reflect the novels. Fingers crossed.
I agree that a 40K film wouldn’t need sex, or even sexual tension. Did ‘Saving Private Ryan’ have a romantic subplot? Did the original ‘Predator’?
On the other hand, and not that I think it would be a particularly good book to turn into a 30K film*, the relationship between Kharn and the captain of the World Eaters’ ship in ‘Betrayer’ is probably the closest I’ve seen any of the GW books coming to creating an interesting and believable male/female relationship in which you felt gender did have an impact but also that it wasn’t stereotypical ‘character X lusts over character Y’. Also has the advantage that the captain was quite a significant character (i.e. she had a lot of screen time) and that she was a likeable, kick ass character we could get behind.
*I thought it was a good book, it’s just too marginal to the overall HH storyline and/or relies too much on knowledge about how the setting works to make a good, stand-alone film.
? battle sisters ?
I see Gav Thorpe is involved with this Mark of War project, it will be interesting to see what they ask for money wise and what the killer hook is.
The new X-Com board game looks like it could be fun most certainly on the wishlist of my gaming group.
Congrats to all the competition winners, some great prizes there.
Do the newsletter weekly, summarise, with links if you want to read more, so it is a quick easy glance of what you really want to read,
otherwise I tend to ignore newsletter.
Ohhh I love the look of those demigods minis!
I will do the Demigods Rising hands gesture every time I mention it from now on.
* does hands gesture *
RIP Robin Williams, tragic end to an already miserable week (the pictures of that girl in the pink dress clinging for grim life trying to get out on that helicopter… powerful stuff.) Honestly didn’t know he was a 40k fan, makes him even more of a dude in my eyes!
Pretty sure Vin Diesel is an avid D&D fan as well tbh, so more celebs than you think… Another great show lads 🙂
I know for x-com the guys over on the mantic forums are adapting deadzone as a kind of xcom, for more of the tactical shooty bang.
as for conventions Megacon is on in Carlisle today, if you are in the area check it out, at Megacon there will be
Competitions
– Cosplay (13- and 13+ categories)
– Art (13- and 13+ categories)
Tournaments
– Magic The Gathering
– Yu-Gi-Oh
– Pokémon
– Cardfight Vanguard
– Gaming (Soul Calibur, Tekken, Marvel vs Capcom etc)
Workshops & Talks
– Learn To Play (MTG, YGO, CFV, PKM, Warhammer)
– Portfolio Reviews & Comic Creation Talks
Stalls
– DVDs, Comics, Manga, Anime, Clothing, Figures, Roleplay, Art, Sketches, Card Alterers and much more
Along with raffles, casual game play, freebies.
Awesome show.
I have to ask… Warren. Why have you called Lloyd – “Po” all your life..? ( Think about it. :-p )
Earlier versions of Space Hulk had rules for normal Space Marines and Eldar and stuff. It made for a very “interesting” take on the game. Also there was Space Crusade which was similar and equally awesome. 🙂
X-Com looks like it good be pretty good. And if you were feeling particularly ‘frisky’ and fancied playing out the skirmishes too. Then you could try and tie it into Mars Attacks.
Myth… As an EU backer. Don’t you dare get me “%$£&* started on Myth.
Very nice miniatures!
I am sure Neanderthals has conspiracy theories too…
I thought of 40K as being a last-stand situation and that always had the possibility of defeat which effectively means extinction but then GW has the Eldar and some of the others in the same sort of boat as well.
I prefer a living evolving universe, rather than one where backstory has to be shoe-horned to fit some hasty canonical construct. That is one of the reasons DZC is appealing more and more as Dave & Co have such attention to detail and plausibility/consistency are essential.
No anti-grav urinals towed by doggies…
I might just make page 1!
Forget “will he… won’t he?”. Isn’t the question “Can he… can’t he?”
If you were a magazine you;d have thousands of user comments. Question is where’s the “Dear Diedre” page.
“Dear Lloyd”. Oh good lordy no!
Don’t worry, ZMAb was tested on monkeys, nothing happened to them.
Are you joking matey? The drug had them poor animals swinging from the tree tops!…… 😛
The news-letters are something to be proud of. I enjoy what I have been getting. I think the e-zine would be better as a bi-weekly. I am planning already for next year to go to gen-con, to visit the mecca of gaming and to meet you guys.
Hm, I can´t find the downloads your talking about. Is it in Backstage or Hobby??
An other cracking episode
Not Zombies – check out Utopia that has just finished on Channel 4, this is the excact same plotline!
I have just finished binge watching Utopia Best TV show in ages !
I have just finished binge watching Utopia Best TV show in ages ! both season 1&2 available on 4OD
Great show as always!
Is it sad that the “2 minutes to midnight” / “Humanity is not going to make it” talk knotted my stomach?………Alas I shall fight on.
I got the Pride mini from The Others yesterday. Got Mike to sign the box too.
I reckon weekly newsletter – with a monthly top pick supplement every 4 issues.
On the conspiracy theories, most are half baked. However Governments lie, this has always been the case, for various reasons – but that’s politics and I shall step away now.
Robin Williams played Eldar?! *mindblown*
I think I’m agreeing with Justin that the current 40k is a bit too stagnant, and I’m starting to get bored. I would like to see the story progresses like Warren said that the humans are overrun, there should be a lot of epic battles that they can use there; such as Lion El’Jonson coming back for the one last time as prophesied by the Dark Angels, but defeated anyway in the end of an epic battle. I mean, many people liked watching 300 although the main good guy defeated in the end anyway.
And after mankind is overrun, it doesn’t mean that they must make all of them gone. Story still can progress where mankind “re-invent” themselves struggling like a typical post-apocalyptic story. Maybe then they can be the actual good guys because all of the shady bureaucrats in Terra are (mostly) gone.
Maybe that happens just before GW closes down as a business!
R. I. P. ROBIN WILLIAMS (he will be missed).
Great show 🙂
Nice show. The problem I see with integrating tecnology and board games is that the app life cycle is much shorter than what you would expect from a board game. In 10-15 years it would be hard to play without it.
no more alcohol on the show guys, at least not for Warren… less conspiracy theories, more gaming please 🙂
“Winter is coming…” Well here in the south of New Zealand winter is currently still terrorising us. Looking forward to summer! 🙂
Space Hulk: Ascension does look damn good, from a graphics perspective. But is the game play any better? Guess I should look into that. 😛
I don’t see why you couldn’t have a Horus Heresy movie based on non Space Marines caught up in the conflict as your main protagonists. Have your marines as an honour guard protecting one of them with vital information they are trying to get back to the Emperor. Tie in a dramatic rescue, the love interest, on the way, which delays the information getting there. Simple. Sort of…
XCOM boardgame does look cool. I am kinda glad they decided to design the game at a strategic command level. Hopefully one of my board game mad mates will pick this up! 😀
As a side note, I realised, while watching this Weekender, how much I look forward to the Beasts of War Weekender/XLBS series every week. It has become a must see, although I do not always have enough time in the Weekend, online video clip for me: Warren’s passionate discourse, Lloyds thoughtful and cheeky insights, Sams open friendly sense of humour, Johns stoical expression (till he starts talking tanks!), and Justins…everyone has a mate like Justin!
The Beasts of War crew are like old friends I am always happy to see. I have never met or spoken to any of you, but we have shared many great moments. Thanks fellas!
World War II war games are ‘stuck’ in that moment. You can play them over and over again, but you don’t really have any affect on the actual outcome. You can play what-ifs with WWII.. you could also play what-ifs with 40K. So I would say that World War 2 ( and any recreation of a war or battle) is forever stuck in that moment of gaming. eh.
I figured Space Hulk: Ascension Edition was nothing more than the normal Space Hulk game packaged up as an ‘Ultimate’ edition, with all the extra DLC they’ve since released for it together. – Though it seems they’ve added a few extra new tweaks to it too (Ultramarines, cyclone launchers).
There’s also ‘Warhammer: Total War’ due to come out at some point too.
I have to agree with Warren. Seems to me GW has gold in their hands with a game like Space Hulk. Why not build on that?!
I’d love to see terrain like Mantic’s build into the inside of a space hulk.
Would love to get my mitts of those Demigods models! Love the protector the mostest! 😀
I thought Concorde was retired because one crashed over France and they were panicked that that there were safety issues with the engines? Or at least that was one of the reasons.
It was a combination of public perception, profit margins, and the feasibility of updating the Concord’s aged control systems – basically there were better options for commercially sustainable revenue. A shame in a way because it was an amazing thing.
I think they were band from landing in the US which was their main capital flights route?
Another great one guys.
I’ve subscribed to pretty much every wargames magazine over the years, but have in the end cancelled them all as I found too often I wasn’t happy with the nature and balance of the content. So I am pleasantly surprised to find that each month I am actually enjoying my subscription to BoW more and more.
I think I haven’t enjoyed a subscription more since the early (very early – I.e. pre-Bryan Ansell) days of White Dwarf when it was a general gaming magazine. Back in those days it was THE place to go for industry news and reviews and opinion, as well as content. I feel BoW has inherited that mantle – or really, resurrected it, as I don’t see anyone else doing the like (other than Ravage magazine, but that is impossible to get over in the uk, and in any case the awful English translation spoils it for me).
I like the coverage of loads of different systems, I love the different types of articles, I love the general banter and chit chat, I love the freebies and competitions. So well worth the money!
no love interest in Saving Private Ryan…..can you imagine Spielberg (or Bay) doing a 30K movie
It’s funny when you guys argue! 🙂
(I want to agree with Warren but I think Space hulk would be really dull as an FPS – perhaps I just don’t have enough imagination)
Now and RPG which follows an inquisitor, where you have to assemble a party of acolytes and equip them, level them and try not to let their heads explode from the warp, I would buy that and no mistake!
Also, I would like to win all the things please!
After ending brutally Transformers, Brother Lloyed ends mercilessly Mark of War.
This truly IS the man handing out Tablets of Devastation.
Is Brother Lloyed truly walking to the Dark Side just to become Darth Ludwig ?
We will see it on the next Episode of the WeekENDER !!! HUAUAUAUUA
Disagree, there are honest politicians, well probably, err maybe!
not living ones.
Great show guys.
I used to play DBAOL but only because I was a DBA player. I don’t think I would be interested in playing an online wargame that wasn’t based on a game that I actually play on the table top!
Tony
This weekend, too much conspiracy 🙂
30k from a regular human perspective, featuring Space Marines (even a Primarch) is reasonable. It’s why they keep putting annoying humans in with the Transformers :-/. It humanises the actions, we the viewers are supposed to relate through those characters.
The original PC adaption of Space Hulk in the 90’s was kind of FPS. It basically used the board game mechanics, but it was all controlled from your Terminators POV.
On the magazine idea, weekly/fortnightly would be awesome. IMO White Dwarf was at its best when it supplented the games instead of just trying to sell them (mid to late 90’s) card sections, new rules/scenarios, conversion and scenery crafting ideas that sort of stuff. What you’re planning is right on those lines, and what gamers everywhere need 😀
Space Hulk is one of those games that could help improve GW sales. I still have the original Space Hulk board game, and all of the white dwarf expansions that allowed you to use the entire 40K range of the time. It was brilliant to play and use as a boarding game for 40K, one of the best games they have released in the last 20 years. Video games do not he improve the companies sales Warren, it is very different market, ad I don’t se much cross versa video game is an individual experience and board games are a group activity.
Lloyd, please note that Genestealer , the last space Hulk expansion is not set in space, but on a planet. Not very “spacey” but still the same game, and good fun.
Love that Tyranid!
WHAT !?!?!?! MATT WARD LEFT GW !?!?!?!?
Weekender!!!!
Warren’s right!! Zombie apocalypse imminent! Tin foil hat firmly in place! I’m good 😛
What’s cool about the XCom app is that it eliminates turns. The game is broken up into rounds, which last a certain period of minutes, and during which events simply happen, and the players have to react to them before the next event happens. The play who has control over the app takes the role of commander and essentially informs everybody else what’s going on and dispatches resources as they see fit (because they’re the only player who really gets a big-picture view of the game state).
So it’s essentially a real-time game rather than a turn-based one. This isn’t about particularly sophisticated AI (because it doesn’t actually sound like terribly sophisticated AI). It’s about creating a new kind of play experience using a tool that wasn’t previously available to game designers. This is what the hybridization of tabletop and digital should like. It should look like something different than what we’ve had before, not just an improvement of the same ideas (a replacement for a single-player challenge deck). This is the kind of thing I’ve been hoping to see from digital gaming tools, not the really boring digital skinning of analog ideas that we’ve seen in Ex Illis and Golem Arcana.
Thanks for your insights. Makes it sound even more interesting now!
Mark of War looks like it could be neat, even though it needs some graphical improvements (which they will have money to do if they succeed with their Kickstarter campaign). When talking about a new type of product it can be so hard to say, “well this will be good, and this won’t have any audience,” and all that, unless you’ve really researched the market.
Demigods looks awesome. Thanks guys, I do enjoy your little chats each weekend.
I don’t like the idea of an app controlling the AI in a physical boardgame. If I want to use a tablet to play boardgame with friends – I can simply use a boardgame app on a tablet. If I want to play physical game – I want to play physical game, without any computers involved…
“Resetting” 40K should be quite easy – just go back to the times of the Great Crusade. Not Horus Heresy – the whole Marine on Marine action is boring (it is just 40K with more expensive toys now), but Great Crusade. Tons of different alien races and human cultures to use, possibility of using many current ones (Orks, Eldar, Dark Eldar…) directly and adapting others (Tau – high tech humans, Tyranids – Megarachnids…).
As for Mark of War – I like the idea. Graphics are not that important (and they can be improved, it is just the matter of enough money), ability to play miniature game with people from all over the world is a good idea. Yes, you can do this with Vassal, but this will probably be a bit better…
Give me miniatures ;D
@warzan, they already did a space hulk FPS, I had it on the Sega Saturn… It was terrible lol
Getting up to so many good news! Armymals is funded at 314% and I’m getting an early bird. I get to paint some orky robot while listening to the weekender. And I even get a chance to win those wonderful Demigods Rising minis! (Ok, I didn’t win anything for Operation: Icestorm Week but you guys are still the best!) 😉
I am sure someone else has already said this but there has been a Space Hulk FPS announced. http://www.spacehulk-deathwing.com/ Starring out favourite guys in Ushabti bone.
While I enjoyed the latest Space Hulk PC/iPad game the pricing for the game and the pricing for the DLC was utterly scandalous for what was essentially a board game app. So while I’ll take a look at the new one when it comes out I’m not holding out hope for it being worth paying that much.
@warzen is the vaccine being manufactured by an UMBARELLA company.
Having a Space Hulk sequel shouldn’t be a problem; the very first expansion, Deathwing, isn’t set on a space hulk, it’s kind of a dungeon.
I agree. Justin got shouted down (a lot) but he was right on this point: a sequal to Space Hulk wouldn’t have to bet set in a Space Hulk. e.g. Can you imagine a game based on the defence of the polar fortress of Macragge by the 1st company against Hive Fleet Behemoth? That could have a bit of outdoors Arctic action followed by space hulk style combat and would be epic!
Also, thinking about film analogies, the sequel to Alien kept the main character but switched from a space ship setting to a planetary setting, and switched from being a horror film to more of an action film. They’re both decent films, but actually very different to each other.
Terminator and Terminator 2 are another example of a sequel being in many ways a different kind of film to the original.
Mantic should make their own stores! They have the right attitude to allow alternative companies that produce third party products for their games and the have many games fully develop, maybe they should way to finish Warpath before taking that huge step, but i believe a brand system will work amazing, i would love to have a Mantic Store here.
PP has one big game and a few small ones… that might makes it too narrow for many people but i certainly go and buy tons of stuff. Maybe if they join with other companies that produce fantasy and Sci-fi games that won’t compete in the same space it will work ( Infinity, Relic, Dropzone, Malifaux,etc ).
Those minis are incredible, they seriously need to be in my grubby hands lol.
@warzen you live in Ireland go to the Delorean factory and make your own time machine then you can go to all the conventions you want. LOL
What is up with Lloyd’s mic.
You can use the left for dead Idea where in multi player you can be the tyranids trying to kill the terminators and for the humans you can play the terminators. With the switching every round you get the best of both worlds.
I missed out on buying the last space hulk board game by GW because those idiots thought it was a good idea to have a limited edition run and they were all sold out in a blink of an eye. Really GW you are having money troubles and there was a game that sold like hot cakes and you never bothered to make any more follow up editions. No wonder you are in a financial tail spin.
PS Warren where did you get your Gundam t-shirt?
I think it was a marketing strategy. They advertise limited edition items then benefit from the buzz and indeed panic of the fans as they rush to preorder or even better travel around to all their local stores begging the shop keepers to find them a copy. While they may have made more money selling more spacehulk boxes it would undermine their larger strategy of forcing people to preorder massively expensive “limited edition collectors” items. Once they rerelease one limited edition the fear of “missing out” lessens on ALL the limited items so they won’t do that.
I think its part of their business strategy of profit over promoting the hobby and I think its short sited and is already starting to backfire.
Incidentally you can get the new spacehulk on ebay for between 120$ and 300$ depending on if you want it unopened or not. The original game was pretty expensive, I think I paid 120$ or so when it released. I think a LOT if people horded copies to sell later so oddly the price hasn’t gone up too far.
Why cant they make a Spacehulk film look at the 4 aliens films put the humans in armoured suits their you go Spacehulk. Of that didn’t work how about a master & commander type film on an imperial ship from one of black library books.
Love it. Although you forgot to mention my name on the winning list. *sniff*
Perhaps a behind-the-scenes look at Studio 1?
I always thought that 40k was the final time before the fall of the Imperium, not necessarily the doom of all man kind. Much like Eldar civilization survived its fall. I think playing in a post Imperium galaxy would be kind of cool. What would the surviving humans be like? What race/races would move in to the power vacuum left by the fall of the Imperium? What would Chaos do without their primary grudge opponents? Lots of interesting dynamics as well as room for LOTS of new content. All the minor races pushed into hiding or the margins of the galaxy would be able to reemerge. Humanity’s survivors might rebuild smaller but more civilized/advanced then before. Maybe the Tau take in large portions of the human systems into their expanding empire. Maybe one or more of the races figures out how to travel between galaxies (the tyranids already do but I get the feeling they just hibernate during the trip rather than have means of traversing the distance in a meaningful time frame).
Humanity dies, no happy ending. It devolves into rabbits !
If I was GW I would launch a multi year “end of days” campaign I the 40k game/fluff leading up to the fall of Terra and the “final disposition” of the Emperor. Then release a new edition starting fresh in the brave new galaxy. This would let them release all new kits for everything (things born/built after the last war) while still letting existing players keep using all their old stuff (things that survived the last war).
I would only see humanity survive as slaves for the Dark Eldar. That is their proper place.
Another great show, thanks.
We not watching you Warren and we did land on the moon.
I think a good series of movies of Horus Heresy could be a go thing to bring new players to the hobby.
Regarding the videogames, I agree with Warren, a shooter of Space Hulk could be amazing. Remember old Doom or Return to castle wolfenstein? perhaps for mobile, as Warhammer Quest?
And yes, conspiracy theories are starting to be more than theories nowadays…
Great show guys !
Why not fortnightly news
Warren made the remark last week. 40k is an ex girlfriend. Behind you, but cant stop thinking about her. Hope that ill meet up with her sometime in the future….
Woohoo, I could win a whole dollar…
I still get all the newsletters, but truth be told I stopped actually reading them. All the pictures and fancy formatting basically make them unreadable on a text-only terminal.
Other newsletter services offer the possibility of getting plaintext versions.
I’d go for weekly, for the big newsletter.
Demigods ftw!
A GW store work as you said but think they dont care if you later buy those minis would ever be playing, enjoy the people you can meet or similar, a retail one must care about this aspect of the hobby, that if he can sell you something you will have where and whom to play with, have fun, make meetups and share painting techniques, also most of the time are manage by one person not 3-4 like most franchises, so its not bad both points of view or manage of them but has to rely on different prismas, the greatest will be a small retailer on that can afford making demos on a second for 3-4 game systems at a small board, in fact a friend has one in Reus and does so hope the best for him.
Another greatest show
I won a prize!!!! WHHHOOOPPPEEEE!
Claim sent in, now I just need to get into Wild West Exodus.
To be honest…it was a little hard to follow you this time…and i even had to take a break…you get quite cranky when you are suffering from lack of sleep..and your “discussion-skills” go down south with it. I hope you get more sleep for the next one 😉
Lloydddddddd is back wooop
in re to Mark of War, don’t forget, once the game is released people can MOD it.
:p So you can get whatever you want.
You missed out the other big advantage of flying between different CONventions that way. It’s called a CONcord! How could you not use a mode of transport named after the events you’re going to?
@ Warren, I think you’re getting a bit carried away with the consipiracy theories…
Politicians have always lied – that’s nothing knew – but so does everyone else. I don’t think it’s worse now than some previous time. What’s different now is that a lot more people are a lot better informed. Not only is there more news, but there are more ways of finding out about stuff that doesn’t rely on going through official news/media channels.
As one of you (not sure if it was Lloyd or Justin) said, there was no reason to have believed the government over the Iraq war – there was plenty of information in the public domain that disproved what top politicians were saying. That said, even the illegal (in my opinion) Iraq war wasn’t just about ‘Tony Blair lying to the country and tricking us into supporting a war’. There were lots of different arguments made by different interest groups (heck, Bush and Blair gave very different justifications for the war and I’m sure had very different motivations for supporting it). It suits a lot of politicians and media that backed the war to pretend now that they were tricked, but had they been doing their jobs better at the time, many – not all of them – ought to have better understood what they were supporting.
The world is complicated – possibly more so that it has been in the past? – and combine that with lots of people having access to conflicting information, and access to new ways to spread their opinions, and you have a breeding ground for conspiracies.
But I don’t think it’s true that all politicians are lying scumbags. Lots of them are not very inspirational, but most of them are fairly similar to the rest of us – getting on with their jobs, trying to do some good things, hoping not to get caught out when they cock up, trying to please peole, over-promising and finding themselves in awkward positions, etc.
No one is perfect, and our politicians are just examples of this: some very good, some very bad, most pretty forgettable, although muddling through and trying sometimes to make a difference in a limited way.
Obvously people do plot and make plans in private, and different individuals and groups have competing goals, so in that sense there are ‘conspiracies’, it’s not the same as saying that ‘a shadowy network controls the world’, or that ‘the CIA planned 9/11’ or anything like that.
I think you also underestimate the degree that accident, mistake and chance play in world events. Most people, even at the top of politics (or multinational corporations) don’t know everything about everything. Everyone ultimately relies on a an awful lot of other people for their information and to make things happen. That’s an awful lot of room for people to miss things or just get things wrong. I think history is far ‘people muddling through and trying to look like they’re in control’ than ‘a few people directing the fate of nations’.
Although conspirary theories do make for good games and films!
Very cool, thanks for the show.
Have another pint, cracking show 🙂
Great Show
Demigods Rising looks great!
Brutal late o’clock! Demigods Rising looks pretty nice. Have you you seen the miniatures in person? They look nice on the kick starter.
I really enjoy the newsletters, great show again folks have a good week…
Always good to hear about celebs who play wargames. Makes them sound more like ordinary people.
There’s something folks here aren’t thinking about when it comes to the 40k movie not needing romantic sub-plots. Saving Private Ryan was a great movie because they didn’t shoehorn in a romantic plot, and it lost ‘best picture’ oscar to freaking Shakespeare in Love!
Sadly in Hollywood atm, you need one it seems…
Great show….. please have a beer more often as it’s funny to see you rant! Gutted about not winning the Infinity or Waterloo prize.
A weekly E Mag would be great! especially if you could make it a downloadable/printable format. I’d print it out for my gaming group!
A great show! I love watching it on Mondays when I am tired after work. As for the newsletter: a monthly version would be too large imho. The daily newsletter can sometimes take a while to read.
Another entertaining show guys but kinda lost the plot with your conspiracy theories at the end, not as bad as the one where you had an argument about the ability to replicate gold though. Good banter but maybe leave the beers till XLBS to keep front stage more on topic 😉
On the subject of tabletop simulation I backed a KS I saw on BoW originally a whole back called 3d Virtual tabletop. I actually backed if to give me an option for playing out the campaign type turns for a wargame I was involved in but have also thought to use it for remote or online versions of Dreadball with friends over distance and more recently used the beta Mantic dungeon saga maps and rules to play the demo game online too and it worked really well.
Also forgot to say +1 vote for weekly rather than monthly ezine format style newsletter
I tested out X-Com from FFG at GenCon last weekend and it was a fantastic product. I believe the majority of interest was in it, Star Wars Armada and Imperial Assault. I am looking forward to X-Com for sure.
I am currently waiting Full Control’s Jagged Alliance: Flashback more than a new Space Hulk game.
So many better gaming IPs out there for making movies. One can dream.
I’m only watching the Weekender today because I was at WorldCon at the weekend.
WorldCon has been held annually since 1946, and while most are in North America, it has been held all over the world. The first time it was in the UK it was held in London in 1957 and was referred by the fans as LonCon. It was back in 1965 for LonCon II and since then another 4 times in the UK outside of London. 1979 and 1987 it was held in Brighton and 1995 & 2005 it was held in Glasgow. This year was the 3rd WorldCon to be held in London so it was called LonCon3.
It was an amazing event held over 4 days. Over 8,000 people came, with hundreds of panels to attend covering Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gaming, Anime, Science and much more. I’m still trying to wrap my head around it all, 2 days after getting home!
Highlight, I managed to pick up Dropzone Commander: Resistance from the Hawk Wargames stall, who had sent a team as well as going to Gencon. Hats off to them for managing 2 major conventions at once.
I think Justin is right regarding a 40K movie. It needs to focus on an Inquisitor or a similar gang of characters to be emotionally appealing to a larger audience. Even a bunch of motivated Space Marine captaint alone probably won’t cut it.
Both the Inquisiton novels I know of, The Inquisition War and the Eisenhorn trilogy, have the required romantic tension going on. I do hope they would take the more subtle approach from the Eisenhorn story, instead of the in your face eroticism (similar to 1st season Game of Thrones) that the Inquisition War takes.