40k Charted: The Badass Villains Of Cadia
March 13, 2017 by warzan
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Very nice series lads … keep them coming can’t wait to see what you say about recent events
@warzan Guys, read Aaron Dembski-Bowden’s “The Talon of Horus”. It is about the rise of the Black Legion. You’ll see Abaddon in a new light. It is also where we see Fabius Bile cloning all the Primarchs, with degrees of success, though his Horus was perfect. He still died again, this time to Abaddon. Killed with his own Talon.
It’s a great book and I very much look forward to the follow up. AD-D seems to be a master of writing Chaos Marines. His Heresy Word Bearer novels turned me to them for my Legion army, though his Night Lords trilogy got me damn close to going with them.
Oh, about Be’lakor, he was the first Daemon Prince. He was elevated by the Four Great Powers equally. This basically gave him free reign to do as he wanted because he was under no one power’s control. The Four, realising this, have never done that again, simply raising Princes under their sole Mark so they can control them. They’ve also basically turned away from Be’lakor for being more trouble than he’s worth and are favouring a new champion, whom they are trying to win to their own side. Abaddon. Be’lakor does not like any of this so that’s why he tries to scupper Abaddon’s plans.
During the Fall of Cadia, Be’lakor is leading an assault against the great Imperial Fist starship orbiting Terra, the Phallanax. With only one Battle Company abound, the Fist Commander fires the ship into the Warp. It comes out at Cadia. If I recall correctly, Be’lakor bails on the attack at roughly that point (someone correct me if I’m wrong) but is amused that the Phallanx may just mess with Abaddon.
@aj86 & @biggrin, please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought?was under the impression that Be’lakor was somehow linked to the fallen renegade god Malaal. I believe that in a previous campaign , Be’lakor was fighting against other chaos forces (whose plans obviously did not co-inside with his plans), but was also taking on all comers to achieve his goals/plans.
Having not been following 40k for a number of years, this series is slowly rekindling some interest (to the point where I may actually try to finish the current mini’s in my 13th Coy SW infantry force). I am greatly enjoying this, please keep up the great work.
@recon63 Malala no longer exists in the GW pantheon. I believe due to Copyright issues.
I like the idea of a renegade renegade!
A guy who’s so bad, he’s good!
From :
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Malice
Malice (known formerly as Malal) is a renegade Chaos God and the Hierarch of Anarchy and Terror who appeared in early editions of the fictional universes of Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40,000. Also known as “The Outcast God”, “The Lost God” and “The Renegade God”, Malal was the embodiment of Chaos’ indiscriminate and anarchic tendency toward destruction, even of itself and its own agents. The nature of Malal’s/Malice’s powers is parasitic, as the Renegade God grows in power only when the other Ruinous Powers do. Malal’s sacred number is 11 and his sacred colours are black and white.
In eons past Malice was cast out from the bosom of Chaos by the other Gods, or else abandoned them of his own volition, no one is sure which. In any case, Malice’s relationship to the other Gods of Chaos is a strange one. All Gods of Chaos pursue purposes that are wholly their own, yet only Malice occupies a position so antithetical to the success of his own unfathomable creed. To be a follower of Malice is to be a Chaotic warrior bent upon shedding the blood of other Chaotic creatures. As such, Malice is both feared and hated by the other Chaos Gods. Malice’s worshippers, too, are loathed by other Chaotics; they are outcasts beloved by neither the friends nor enemies of Chaos, dependent upon the least whim of their patron deity. Few men worship such a God; fewer still live long in his service. The bonds that tie master and servant ever drain upon the soul of the warrior, and it is a rare man that can loosen the bonds of Malice once forged.
Origins and Comics
The concept of the Chaos God “Malal” was created by comics writers John Wagner and Alan Grant along with Malal’s champion, Kaleb Daark, for the Warhammer Fantasy world in the Citadel Miniatures Compendium and Journals. In the comic strip adventure Kaleb Daark’s mission allied him temporarily with the forces of good. He fights at the siege of Praag and confronts the followers of the Chaos God Khorne, and also finds himself at odds with the Skaven. Less mutated than other followers of Chaos, he is equipped with his soul-drinking daemon axe Dreadaxe with its pterodactyl-like head on a shaft of bone. His shield was shaped in the form of Malal’s skull symbol, his armor was all-black with white details and his steed was a black mutant horse. Kaleb himself appeared pale, as the contact with Malal supposedly drained him of energy. His battle cry was “Dreadaxe thirsts for you!”
There were three installments completed of The Quest of Kaleb Daark comic:
Part 1 : “The Quest of Kaleb Daark” – The Third Citadel Compendium 1985
Part 2 : “The God-Slayer!” – The Citadel Journal Spring 1986
Part 3 : “Evil of the Warpstone!” – The Citadel Journal Spring 1987
Part 4 : “God Amok!” – Unprinted
In the Spring 1986 Journal there was also one additional page of Warhammer Fantasy Battle rules (and a small bit of Malal background) for including Kaleb Daark and his steed in games. This issue also saw the first advertisements for the miniature figure set including a mounted and standing Kaleb Daark. The Spring 1987 Journal featured the miniature figure sets of the two Chaos Brothers, Jaek and Helwud, Kaleb’s main adversaries in Part 3. Part 4 “God Amok!” was also advertised in this issue, but it never saw print. It is uncertain how much of this 4th installment was actually completed. Allegedly the comic was canceled because of “creative differences” between the creators and Games Workshop.
The Mark of Malal
With the introduction of Malal in the comics, it was inevitable that the deity would find its way into the Games Workshop Chaos mythos and thereby into other products:
The renegade Ogre Skrag the Slaughterer was introduced as a follower of Malal. A short background story told his story as being cast out from his tribe for stealing a “starmetal” axe, with Malal subsequently guiding Skrag to a Chaos Dwarf hold, forcing them to forge him an armor and then slaughtering them all in the name of Malal. White Dwarf 83 (UK) (1983) featured a Warhammer Fantasy Battle mini-scenario The Crude, the Mad and the Rusty, pitting the lone Chaos Dwarf survivor of this massacre, aided by two goblin fanatics and a mechanical warrior, against Skrag. Skrag has since been recast as a devout follower of the Ogre god known as “The Great Maw”.
In the first editions of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay in 1986, Malal has a short paragraph along with Khorne and Nurgle and is mentioned as a renegade Chaos God dedicated to the destruction of the other Chaos Gods.
In the short story The Laughter of Dark Gods in the Warhammer anthology Ignorant Armies, there is also a reference to an unnamed albino Malal Chaos Champion and his warband roaming the Chaos Wastes. This Champion is slain by the novel’s main character.
The card game Chaos Marauders published in 1987 featured the “Claws of Malal” card. The unit represented in the game by this card was a warband of Beastmen eager to fight, preferably against followers of the other Chaos Gods.
Use of Malal in further Games Workshop productions ceased around 1988, the same year the first of the two Realm of Chaos background books was published. Malal is not referred to or mentioned at all in these products. There was also an uncertainty as to who actually owned the rights to the concept of Malal — the comic’s authors or Games Workshop. The one notable exception to this absence of Malal was in the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay supplement The Dying of the Light published by Hogshead Publishing in 1995. This book featured a Chaos Sorcerer of Malal named Heinrich Bors who has struck a deal with Malal to escape from the Chaos God Tzeentch.
Continued Existence as Malice
As the further use of Malal was restricted by Games Workshop, the authors of the Something Rotten in Kislev adventure for the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay The Enemy Within campaign introduced “Zuvassin – the Great Undoer” and later “Necoho – the Doubter”, as two renegade Chaos deities, replacing the role originally intended for Malal in this campaign. However, the memory of Malal did not die with the ability of Games Workshop to use the Renegade God. The idea of Malal was continued on in the 1990’s by veterans of the Warhammer roleplaying scene primarily through the Internet via BBS (bulletin board system) and stories (such as Divine Judgment) so Malal continued to survive, occasionally becoming the choice deity of veteran players playing Chaos. Also in Warhammer Fantasy Battle and Warhammer 40,000, the occasional Malal-themed army still surfaced.
The Shadowlord of Mordheim, Be’lakor, in Warhammer Fantasy has been seen by some fans as a revival of the idea of the renegade/outcast Chaos God originally represented by Malal. Note, however, that Be’lakor is only a Daemon Prince, whereas Malal was a true Chaos God.
One of the strongest direct references to the Renegade God from Games Workshop was made in the Warhammer 40,000 supplement Codex: Chaos Space Marines (3rd Edition – 2002). The first is the appearance of a daemonic weapon called a “Dreadaxe”, which is described as preferring to kill other daemonic entities. The other reference was in a picture displaying the other possible painting schemes for the models. One of the examples was a Chaos Space Marine of a Renegade Chapter entitled the “Sons of Malice”. The colours used for this Chapter were the bisecting black/white design of Malal’s symbol, and the word “Malice” is not too dissimilar from “Malal”; in essence, Malal has been returned to the Warhammer 40,000 universe as the Renegade Chaos God Malice, the Hierarch of Anarchy and Terror. The word “Malal” also means “Malice” in several East Indian languages. More information on the Sons of Malice came in Games Workshop’s monthly publication White Dwarf 303 (issue 302 in the U.S.). The article mentioned that the Sons of Malice were exiled from the Imperium for a set of disgusting rituals that were reported to include cannibalism and that they fought in complete silence. The ultimate patron deity of the ritual was never revealed, though it can surmised that it was Malice/Malal. At the end of the article it was specifically mentioned that the Sons of Malice were noted to fight with ferocity against other followers of Chaos.
I haven’t heard that, however it is something I will definitely look into!
Some friends and I were just going through the primarchs yesterday at our gaming session to see who might be back. With all the lore out there, and not every book read yet, the best list we could come up with is this.
With the loyalists, as you said, Jaghatai is lost in the webways. Russ is in the eye. So is Corvus. By the newer books, Vulkan is an immortal, so keeps popping up through history. The Lion is in stasis under the rock, as well as Luther. We know Ferrus is dead and beheaded, so not likely to be back. Sanguinius is dead by Horus. Dorn is dead and encased in amber on the phalanx.
With the traitors, Fulgrim turned demon prince and is still out there. Perturabo is still around. Angron went demon prince. Magnus obviously demon prince. Lorgar and Mortarion as well. While Fabius Bile keeps trying to clone him, Horus is a confirmed kill. Curze allowed himself to be assassinated. With the twins, it is supposed that the ultramarines killed Alpharius and Omegon is still alive, but who can really tell with those guys.
So lots of possibilities for come backs.
Great episode, looking forward to next week. Hoping to see a bit of Tau love
We looked a bit at Tau a short while ago, however, we may need to look more at some of their technology. Explore the suits a bit further!
Cloning works everytime. Even for Mr. Sinister. 😉
As always great video.
Is it just me or is anyone else having audio glitches since the last weekender? I thought it might be due to some upgrade to the flash/html player but I’ve downloaded the audio version of this show and even the intro has some hickups in the audio. Sounds like it stops to buffer for a moment but that sould not be part of the downloaded audio file right? It also happend with the last weekender though I only noticed it once they started with the SAGA part and I did not check the podcast version yet.
It stuck a little bit for me at 1:53, but played thereafter
Yes the first 2 Minutes are the worst. But I guess if the audio file has it too it is not my system as I listend to the audio on my cellphone.
I must admit that that I am tempted by the 40k Thousand sons. If there is a gap where nothing new comes out I’d definitely consider picking up a box – maybe there will be a start collecting box at some point?
With Vulkan and the 4 artifacts that the Salamanders haven’t bothered to find I’d love to see them recover the remaining artifacts and see Vulcan return (ideally not on the side you are expecting!)
Ferrus Mannus – regrown like groot by the adaptus mechanicus (or restored from back up dna if you prefer) – the problem with this is that I find him kind-of boring.
I feel like Abaddon is going to be getting an upgrade to Daemon Prince status with backing from the four chaos gods very soon and thats what his next model will be. Someone who can challenge Guilliman. The second coming of Horus with Guilliman fulfilling the Emperor’s role.
Russ is actual stacking shelves in my local Tesco’s Metro.
come to the dark side they have cookies and no rules on killing the innocence.
good one guys.