Logan Grimnar Rides In Alongside New Warhammer 40k Books!
August 9, 2014 by brennon
The new selection of Games Workshop pre-orders have hit their webstore and as you might have expected there is a familiar face in Logan Grimnar with his Stormrider 'Chariot'. As well as that there's a new sourcebook for his Champions of Fenris and another book for Sanctus Reach called Maledictus...
Above are the miniature for Logan Grimnar and the Champions of Fenris book. The actual miniature of Logan Grimnar has grown on me and I actually like the sculpt but I still can't get past the silliness of the sled thing 'Stormrider'. It just doesn't look right to me and maybe it if had been some kind of full 'longship' I could have gone along with it but the stubbiness of it just doesn't work.
Champions of Fenris comes with new warlord traits and rules for making the Great Company of Logan Grimnar himself. The artwork is certainly very epic on the front cover.
Maledictus continues the story of Sanctus Reach from the point of view of the Grey Knights that have been sent to deal with the threats to the sector by daemonic powers. Will the world be drowned in a sea of chaos or will the Grey Knights hold back the tide?
An interesting selection of pre-orders this week so it will be good to see what the rest of August has in store. Nagash anyone?
Have you been turned when it comes to Logan's sled?
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A new model for Logan ace, but in a floating thing pulled a long by dogs ? Like Warren said last weekend “shoot the dogs!”
Way back when I used to play 40K I had a regular Space Wolf army and later a 13th co. force- if this model had been released back then I’d probably have loved it, and there’s little doubt it is a well sculpted model, but now to me it just seems like a ‘self-parody’, something I’ve noticed with a few of GW’s recent offerings…
A nice model, but a flawed concept perhaps- still, Logan himself looks very impressive!
So the first releases for the new edition of 40k were Orks and Space Wolves and Sanctus Reach involved Orks and Space Wolves. Are GW using Sanctus Reach as a vehicle to interest people in new releases and does that mean Grey Knights will be next?
Following their logic maybe we’ll see a Grey Knight Vs Daemons Sanctus Reach ‘Battle Box’ maybe? That would be very cool…
BoW Ben
Isn’t that obvious ha ha ? It pushes people who were on the side about getting one of those two armies to get stuck in.
Rumour has it the knights will indeed be next – but with just a Codex and few if any models (which seems fine, knights have everything they need with some excellent cross-purpose kits).
Ok, having seen the proper 360 of this on the GW site it’s nicely sculpted. However, what a monumental missed opportunity design wise to ‘not’ integrate Logan’s base with the sled chassis. Logan is not in any way holding onto the sled and although you could easily mount him on a separate base to have him on foot, the opportunity was there for the taking to have the base just slot into the sled pretty much as is shown on the frame.
Even Forgeworld have done this with the Primarachs having the gaming sized base ‘slot into’ the wider display base.
To me this emphasises the lack of thought that’s going into some of their designs now or at worst a cynical attempt to also release him on foot separately for increased sales. I sadly feel it’s probably the latter and suspect if/when the Hobbit: BoFA version of Dain comes out in his chariot it will not be with him on foot, much like the way they released Beorn in human and bear form separately instead of doing the decent thing and bundling both as a single release.
Separating Logan from the sled onto his owm base is a simple task looking at the frames, but those that buy it shouldn’t have to; they could and should have designed it that way in my opinion.
It’s funny, but apart from the price rises, I have never really had too much of a problem with GW’s 40k range (OK maybe some of the codex updates).
However the latest wolves releases (my absolute most favourite marines!) just fell flat for me and I miss the previous range of minis. If I was to jump back into 40k with Space Wolves I would flag these and hunt down the earlier sculpts. I would probably stick to an earlier edition of the rules too… *sigh*
The model can be turned pretty reasonable, even good, if you simply remove the wolves and related parts (maybe put them on separate bases). The model then becomes an “attack hover platform” which sort of makes sense, and Logan is accompanied by his favourite war wolves (the rules I assume render them merely decoration).
The actual Logan model has a pretty high level of detail for a plastic model, it’s actually impressive. The concept was stupid, but I think it can be easily bypassed.
All this “hatred” of this model and gw’s other releases really confuses me. You see similar models in other systems (warma-hordes for example) and they are loved by nearly everyone. When gw does it almost every comments section has the same complaints about every gw model that has come out recently of how they design team as failed and then some bash against the core rules for good measure.
This should be the most exciting time for any 40k players. I have been playing this game since rogue trader days and the game is what everyone has been bagging for for years! We all wanted more selection, bigger armies, new units, new unit types, scenarios, more freedom in selection and more armies to play. Now that we have all those things and more its the worst thing that could have ever happened. About 5-6years ago gw only updated models and we rarely saw any new units. Now there is endless possibilities and options and ways to play 40k!
People say gw never listens to its fans. Maybe they listened to much and gave us exactly what we wanted and we ate to much at the buffet. Maybe the problem with 40k being less fun isnt gw’s fault but ours as a player base. I mean really look at the core rules from 3rd end to now? The game still plays very much the same with just added layers. And lastly for the people complaining about how other games are more balanced and better. Which other game even comes close to the scale and selection of 40k? Even non space marine armies have more selection then some entire games.
If your having so much trouble with your 40k maybe try something new like changing or points or discussing with your buds which of the many 100s scenarios to try out that never get used? Variety is the spice of life after all.
Lastly a rant on prices. I mean no offense by this but if your so complaint is price of gw models. Look at the prices of their direct competition they are very on par with what they are compariable to at a better quality (the quality is opinion based but there plastics are some of the best easiest to use in all mini wargaming, not talking about non wargaming models). Maybe people are mad at prices because we want all the armies. Maybe we just want it all cause we are all greedy and want huge armies of awesome mini’s?
Sorry but the concept is really poor imho
I know nothing about Warmahordes. However outrageous their models maybe, it does not make this doggy sled any better. I can only form an opinion on what I see.
I won’t get into the price argument as it will only repeat what has said before, but I don’t understand your assertion that GW may have listened to the fans. If they listened they would be doing things a lot different. Or do GW only listen to fans that say they don’t mind how much the minis cost, they will still buy them?
Maybe we are “mad” at the prices because the prices are mad.
Eh I think you’ll find it’s the drop in quality or the move (return) to more cartoon based designs that is angering people. As for the quality of models there are some objective claims you can make. For example, whilst the Wood Elf and Dark Elf infantry sets have been pretty damn good they are inferior in terms of customization compared to other GW infantry kits.
Warmachines have a certain aesthetic, but I don’t recall them ever having wolves pulling a anti-grav platform.
As for the price, that’s all well and good but you’re finding less and less GW players.
I think if we accept that they are moving toward a kids’ game, then the design makes sense. But even now, after all the hate thrown at the model in the other post, it seems people are warming to it, and will eventually buy it in droves regardless of the cost, thus encouraging GW to keep churning out this sort of trash at a ridiculous price. Does the YA ink blot fiction encourage this? Perhaps. It obviously appeals to that target demographic as well.
From the outside looking in, it is hard to fathom why the GW community puts up with this sort of treatment. Objectively, if you look at the models for games like Infinity, or Dropzone Commander (I know it’s 10mm), at a glance you can see they produce a superior product and game, respond to feedback, and have an inkling about customer service. But that doesn’t seem to be an issue in the GW culture, and soon the “I can afford it” comments will start, along with the rounds of justification and encouragement, and ways to fix the latest blight that got pushed out the door.
28mm sci-fi vehicle kits are few and far between, so I hope other companies start producing them, to perhaps encourage some healthy competition and better efforts from GW. Till then, I will keep buying sci-fi stuff at dollar stores and thrift shops, and converting them to suit my gaming needs.
There are some daft models in the Warmahordes range and they tend to be awesome. Note I say “tend to be” rather than “are always”.
This flying bathtub isn’t awesome – it’s just bloody daft. It’s really poor and it’s not the only turkey we’ve seen from GW lately.
Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, this is only my opinion and I’m glad you like it.
The thing is, this model feels like an example of GW “missing the point”. Yes other companies have done similar models and it seems to go over well by fans, maybe that’s because those companies do it right?
The three pieces (The sled, Logan, and the wolves) are not bad, but together they just don’t work. The sled and wolves feel as if they are better suited to a dwarven army than SW. Logan is a good model that is not done justice with the addition of the sled.
Warmahordes is fantasy and steampunk .. nough said i think. Other companies still produce games because they love games, GW openly takes a piss at anything and anyone not shaped and coloured like money. And proud of it. Just listen to Kirbys letter of confession. Theres really no hidden mystery behind the criticism.
There are some legitimate concerns about the corporate direction GW has taken in recent years, along with credible arguments about the benefits of updating the ruleset with some of the new innovations appearing in wargaming such as more modern activation and reaction rules rather than sticking with the I go/you go system of 40K and Warhammer. And then there are th perennial issues of why GW doesn’t support some of the specialist games that are widely viewed as some of the best stuff they have ever created.
All these points are worthwhile and should be addressed by GW. Unfortunately, the internet being the internet, reasonable concerns are all too often drowned out by a tide of conflicting demands and all too often down right psychotic screeching hatred that casts GW as a literal evil empire within wargaming that is stifling the industry and is single handedly responsible for all that is wrong with wargaming and indeed the world at large. For such people, there is nothing games workshop could conceivably do that they wouldn’t hate on a point of principle. Their hatred of the company – and stating it as loudly and often as possible to anyone who might listen – is more a hobby to them than the game itself ever was.
Unfortunately, such an unfavourable noise to signal ratio make it extremely unlikely that (even if GW were more inclined to listen to its fans, which would be no bad thing) they would be able to parse much of a consistent sense of what the fanbase wants. Who wants to try to discern what direction the fans of a game want to go in when to do so you have to wade through seemingly endless reams of posts claiming that the company is about to die anyway (a claim that has been made every year for well over a decade now), that all the rules writers ought to be fired (or shot – yup people actually go that far), that every single new model is the worst thing ever released in the history of wargaming, that every GW employee is a talentless hack, and that the world would be far better off if a yawning chasm simply swallowed GW HQ, every branch and every copy of the game to burn in the Earth’s magma mantle. And that is before you get into the people who like to have a go at those who enjoy GW products, impugning everything from their taste and intelligence to their mental health.
Until the community – I am thinking specifically of its online aspect here; face to face discussions seem less prone to this kind of thing – can conduct itself with something other than the discursive equivalent of faeces-hurling, why should anyone listen to us, whether GW or any other company?
GW have retreated into their citadel
The level of “noise” is not an issue for them. They become very insular yonks ago, losing all contact with the customers.
They may well have listened well enough to the “I will pay whatever it takes to play the best game evah!” lobby. It certainly looks like selective hearing to me.
The community has every reason to be hostile to GW. They only have themselves to blame for that. They get praise enough when they produce good models, which is right and proper. They get criticised when they produce a pooch like the doggy sled and treat customers like the poop the pups left behind.
No business with a large vocal fan base can listen to every voice. But it can still pick up on the vibes.
Other companies do so and there is no reason why GW can’t.
They choose not to.
GW certainly do have a seige mentality, but that did not just come out of nowhere. We need to ask why they behave that way, rather than just defaulting to a ‘boo hiss’ mindset that clearly acheives nothing.
There is no grand conspiracy at GW HQ to destroy the game and do over their fanbase in the fashion of an evil moustache-twirling villain stereotype. Things got this way due to a range of factors, and the toxic mentality within the online community cannot simply be ignored because it strikes a little too close to home for comfort.
I also respectfully disagree with your position that the criticism is mostly reasonable and proportionate – I have heard extreme negativity asbout pretty much every release for years now, often stated with undue confidence and flaying derision before the actual GW promotional materials have even been released, still less the model seen ‘in the flesh’. The furore ove the Eldar Wraithknight springs to mind.
This is not a case of a saintly community being oppressed by an evil company. There is blame enough to go around.
Has GW made mistakes? Undeniably. Are they continuing down the same ultimately destructive path? Certainly. Are there several relatively painless steps that they could take right now to improve their situation, and yet for no discernable reason they refuse to do so? I would argue that there are.
That said, can the community claim the moral high ground, and wash its hands of all responsibility for the current breakdown in communications and the toxic relationship between the company and its fanbase? I don’t think so.
Smoke and mirrors. The end product is all that matters, and right now it’s terrible.
Fascinating how you think the issue has ever been their customers … truly fascinating. One thing leads to another and whatever it was it started with GW, be damn sure.
I never said that the issue was only or even mostly with the customers, I said that some of the attitudes prevalent within the online community contributes to the problem of a lack of communication and a toxic atmosphere. That community does not embody all or even most GW customers, and equating a vocal online presence with the entire GW fanbase as if that fanbase is a monolith is part of the problem.
Truthfully, I do not much like the hover sled myself, but I do not presume to present my aesthetics as universal.
Even if we accept that this all began with GW just being difficult for no reason in a fashion fundamentally different from all its competition (a position I see scant evidence for), then that still doesn’t mean that GW is soley responsible for the obstacles that lie in the way of improving the situation.
When your argument rests on a company who employs thousands engaging in some machiavellian plot against its own customers, and acting against its own interests – short, medium, and long term alike – in the proccess, then your scenario starts to have credibility issues.
Is it so difficult to accept that maybe, just maybe, we must bear a little of the responsibility here?
No its difficult to beleive .. Id liken what you are trying to get across to how the abused sometimes defend the abuser and take on blame for whats happening. Im not going to be one of them. If they felt they had to isolate themselves even from their own community its their own damn fault. Your behaviour as a company will be reflected in your customers attitude towards you, I dont think anyone went into the hobby with hopes to hate on the company who made all those awesome products. Lack of respect and understanding of the community is what pulled the trigger, imo.
And its not that anyone thinks GW is engaged in some machiavellian plot, its just that with their money grubbing attitude (not saying a company shouldnt try to make as much money as it can) they have lost perspective on their product and respect for their customers.
This is getting kinda creepy lol.
Sorry about that :p might have gotten a bit too dramatic there.. think im gonna just leave a batman effect and be done.
Bzaapp!
No, your analysis was spot on :-). I was talking about imaginary company/consumer relationships.
You need to ask why people get hacked off with GW policies.
With respect you over estimate how much the board listen to any customers.
IIRC Kirby has said as much on more than one occasion.
Sorry but having been stung by GW marketing tactics myself, and I am certainly not alone, I am not going to praise them for how they go about their business. Not when other companies go out of their way to engage with customers.
It is obvious that where there is a large fan base their will be many divergent opinions and criticisms, which is impossible to take into account.
I see the likes of Revell Germany putting out feelers for what customers want.
Airfix do the same. They are (presumably) bigger companies than GW with a great deal more competition from other kit makers.
As for some sort of conspiracy theory, I don’t believe that there is such a thing.
You don’t need one. A long list of business decisions have pissed off a lot of people. GW treat independent retailers very poorly and they have incrementally ramped up the pressure on them. It all adds up to making some people hostile.
Customers haven’t claimed the moral high ground.
GW relinquished it
You forget that the customer pays or not for the product. They don’t have any responsibility whatsoever for GW. It is back to front thinking to suggest so.
At this juncture I think we will just have to agree to disagree. You have your perspective, I have mine, and the two just don’t seem very compatible. Derailing the thread any further seems unlikely to yield much of benefit to anyone.
Yeah I still don’t like it. I think Logan himself is great, I can say the chariot is well sculpted with nice details but I think the concept is poor, I just can’t see it working on a battlefield. It’s a pity as I liked the other releases. I’m still disappointed we saw no Wulfen or Ragnar models, I think Logan’s old sculpt is decent enough to wait the next round and I believe a Wulfen kit would have sold much better. I think the sled is way off the mark as a concept, my first reaction was laughter and it hasn’t changed beyond that, still if GW want to go back to crazy old Rogue Trader days who am I to argue? 🙂
My thoughts on it have changed but only in that it now reminds of a something I would see on a Viking themed merry-go-round.
I think you have it.
It is the first model in the 40K Fair Ground Fun series.
You can go on the ride at Space Marine World Theme Park, Notts. then buy the mini to paint and play with as a memento of your visit.
Grandma can ride the sled next to Logan while the grand kids ride the wolves as they move up and down.
I can see a problem with this Grandma’s and wolves traditional have bad interactions 😛
This is why the Logan Grimnar automaton has an axe, dags.
Just in case the wolves go gobbling granny
Oops
I think I should have rephrased that.
Curse you, Lure of Alliteration!
OMG, now I’ve got that horrible image engraved in my head!
A whole page of WHOOSH! BANG WHACK BOOM SPLAT! KABOOM! SNAP! VROOOOOM!
KA-POW! RUMBLE CRUNCH POW! ZAP!
THUD.
Give them a round of applause for bringing the obvious to no-one who cares attention.
???
Are you losing it Dave?
“Sounds” like hes winning if you ask me
Nah, just bored with reading the same dribble in every 40k post…
Then dont read it? Why try to dictate what others talk about?
It was funny the first two times, but now… Maybe you could switch to “I am Groot.”
What? I thought people found it hilarious posting the same thing over and over and over again about anything 40k?
I don’t recall anyone saying the doggy sled was good or the doggy sled was rubbish in threads about Space Wolf Ancients.
If that sort of detail and “viking/wolfe-ness” was done on a landspeeder I think it would be amazing.
If it was the shield of heroes type thing to ride into battle with, and not a over the hills we go sled, it would be much better. I have no idea about the rules, but if it allowed him to drop into close combat as if it was an assault ramp equipped drop pod.
… hmmm looking at it in the 360 turnaround, I kinda think with some converting,
maybe by extending the front out further forward with some land speeder bits,
I agree, it could look like a half decent grav sled or something…
maybe just have the wolves running side by side with the sled, like a mini diorama 🙂
on the subject of whether GW is going too cartoony,
… in the nearly 20 years I’ve been collecting minis, I don’t think I’ve ever looked at GW stuff
and thought ” this is the pinnacle of realism ” 😛
lol, they’ve always been major cartoony 😛 unless you think a Stormboy is feasible 😛 ha ha
… granted Warmachine / Hordes is more stylized in a way,
but I think thats just more to do with the Iron Kingdoms just having a more unified looking
“world view” or aesthetic style 🙂
40K has always been more of a mish-mash of different styles and ideas 😛
… anyway I like both just as much as the other, so it doesn’t bother me too much 😉
Yeah I am a fan of Warmahordes and 40k aesthetics in general, but both have minis I don’t like and on the whole, figures I love. With Warmahordes I enjoy the game mechanics more than 40k these days but 40k still has the best setting and background.
A few crappy models here and there and annoying rule changes/updates don’t ruin that. 😀
What people fail to understand is companies like hawk and corvus can listen to there fan base for suggestions a lot easier because they are newer and dont have a large player base. I play dropzone and own nearly the entire range (of the 1st four factions gotta save up some cash for the new resistance cause they look sweet!). As for infinity goes once they get into the resin game I will agree that they got some great stuff if your into anime style (full metal minis are terrible in my opinion just not a fan of the material but thats my problem). Honestly a lot of the suggestions people send flinging out do not work. When was the last time you influence ford, dodge, or GM. Though rocket sled looks more like a porsche in my opinion. So when did Porsche take yoir suggestions on how to make a 911 better?
GW’s Public relations suck (most corporations PR sucks) and that is there biggesr failing and there trade accounts suck (there is a reasons for the trade account sucking thats because its business and gw wants there products presented in a certain way. Same as Apple makes tech stores present their products in a certain way). As for people that say their customer service suck. You are plan wrong and I do mean to be blunt. If you have had a bad experience with them then that is very rare. I have dealt with there customer service more then most as both a customer and the behalf of customers and they are amazing individuals atleast in north america. I cannot say how they are in other places but in NA they are the best customer service I have ever had dealings with.
I guess my rant early touched on to many things. What I was trying to get at is this is the golden age of 40k or atleast should be. How many models do you need? This game is very affordable. Like honestly it takes what 6months to a year to get a fully painted army on the table top on average? Thats like spending $ 1500 (canadian) at most (including rules and supplies) to get about 2000pts or more depending on your decisions. Thats not bad at all. I wish all my hobbies were that cheap. But I live in canada and shits expensive (the GBP is about double the Canadian dollar so do your math. The game is only too expensive when people get greedy and buy every new release and maintain many armies. No wonder your upset I would be too if I had done that and have more minis then sense (I probably do have more minis then sense). Once again I bring up my point of being greedy. Its cause a lot of us do want it all. Thats human. We are a greedy species. Once again maybe its not gws fault maybe its ours.
I dunno I am rambling lol everyone is entitled to their opinion and I ussually dont join these conversations but musta hit a nerve after a nightshift there. My apologies for taking up your time.
As long as you are happy with GW, isnt that all that matters? Nice attempt at reasoning why GWs behaviour should be accepted though. I think most of us have thought long and hard already about why we cant justify what GW has slowly become.
They only have to justify their behaviour to shareholders. That be big business. And if your that upset, INVEST!
Its a sinking ship, and because they have lost perspective. In order to have something positive to show shareholders in the near future getting back in touch with reality and their customers is the way to go. But maybe big companies dont do this. They are doing something (im being nice) wrong and they wont be able to justify it much longer imo.
The attitude that investors are more important than the customers is just what is wrong with GW.
Exactly, its the bullets (bolts?)they keep shooting their own feet with
The ones pulled by wolves?
Real tiny ones too 😉
Previous Logan Grimnar model was solid but this new one is silly. Expesially with that small flying long boat pulled by wolves.
The entire piece (sled, dogs and Grimnar) comes off as silly to me. Why the hell would I want sled dogs pulling something I can shove jets onto the back end of? Just doesn’t make sense to me.
Also, the fact that I they want me to buy not only the main codex but an additional supplement if I want to play using the entire set of SW rules is asinine.
The supplements are mostly fluff and senerios. They sometimes change the force org of a few things so you can play a fluffier army. They arent required. Basically it puts more back story in on something specific where the actual codex does the broad history. All the supplements are doing is giving more flavour to a unique piece of the army. They have little impact on the game unless you wanna play the senerios listed in them. So your not missing out on anything if you don’t want/care about what I mentioned above.
One thing that I thought was really cool about GW,and helped draw me into the game when I was starting to get into gaming, was that scenarios and some fluff used to be available on the GW website.
IMHO it was a sad day when they changed it. There were also tutorials for painting and making terrain. Great stuff. You could still buy the “how to” books if you wanted.
It felt like the company actually did care about the community.
They have those painting videos on there website now (it is gunna take some time to build up at selection of free content again as it takes time and money to give free videos at decent quality) and they moved the majority of the free scenarios to the core rules (remember when we only had 3 deployments and 3 objectives now how many are in the core rules). A big reason they got rid of a lot of that stuff was it was outdated and they moved it back into white dwarf because everyone was complaining about how white dwarf was just a sales mag not a hobby mag like it use to be. We as customers didn’t like it that content in WD either so they went with this new supplement option which has gotten a somewhat positive response.
We may be talking about a different part on the timeline.
The website had at least one other update since the one I refer to, Ultra.
Regardless, I always thought it was a good touch on the part of GW and a shame that the archives were removed without being replaced
Fair play if painting videos are being made.
The only problem for this GOM has with that is that it will be to demonstrate the 50 (hyperbole alert) different types of paint now in the range. lol
I was referring to the same update. The one website that was around during 4th and most of 5th where the majority of the content in the achieve was 4th and theyy dropped that content in mid 5th when it was no longer correct.
And whats wrong with a bunch of different styles of paints!? Thats a good thing! And the fact that they give you instruction on the basics on how to use them is fantastic! I wish other paint companies did that. (I use other company paints as well as gw. They all have their strengths and weaknesses)
$4 for an ounce of paint? Why mix a shade when you can buy twelve degrees of hue or saturation of the same colour? No need to ever mix your own again. How wonderful!
Go into any reputable art store and you will get the same stuff, including extenders to turn them into washes, for a tenth of the price. Not sure if it’s laziness or gullibility.
Do you really need a foundation, body colour, wash, dry brush, highlight etc, when you can use at most 3 types and can easily manage with two?
ie Foundation, which itself is probably not necessary but works well for blocking in the basic colours)
In other words you are being encouraged to by a load of unnecessary shizzle.
Seriously, think about it? How did people possibly cope with only foundation, standard paint and a wash?
If you can’t drybrush with a standard paint just practice.
Making washes is easy. All you need is flow aid and some acrylic medium
But of course GW don’t want you to know that.
I do all that as well my friend. And I didnt say they werent pricy. Maybe its just the market where I live because art supplies are expensive in canada. And I’d rather not buy supplies online to save a buck (with shipping costs it doesnt save me any money anyways unless I am buying large quantities).
If cost makes the product useable to you that is fine. Doesn’t mean it is not a good product and doesn’t mean you have to insult my character. Where I come from that is considered rude.
@chibi
Whatever works for you my friend. I wish I could send you some pictures of my models. Drybrushing isn’t an issue 😉
Once again if you don’t have a need for them its not like gw is kicking down your door and stealing your wallet. As for myself I try out many products from across a variety of brands and products because essentially all I do is paint. That be my hobby 🙂 best thint to do is educate your self (as you seem to have done) and buy what you need. When I teach others I ask them what they want to do. Some people do not want to mix and batch paints where as others are. Its all how you wanna spend your time and money.
Am sure you can paint very well.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Where I used the word “you”, replace it with “one”
It was not at all intended as referring to you specifically but in a general sense that people can easily accomplish these techniques.
Can’t be that hard. Even if I ain’t a pro, I can get fair enough results
If I can do it, anyone can.
Apologies for the poor wording
Art supplies aren’t expensive in Canada @ultrasmerf, at least not in Manitoba or Ontario. Unless you shop at Michael’s of course, in which case you might as well go back to GW for your 23 shades of yellow lol.
Also, I didn’t find @chibi ‘s comments rude.
I was thinking of converting an old land speeder to be the “engines” then it will be something like the necron chariot.