Weekender XLBS: Kicking Off DreadBall Season 4!
January 18, 2015 by warzan
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Happy Sunday guys!
Damn, I want Curis’s fisty glue man tshirt!
Happy Sunday!
Happy Sunday! Great to see Jaime again, awsome guy!
The 3D printing revolution will change miniature and terrain industry in the exact same way RPGNow and the like changed RPGs. You could write your own RPGs but its easier to download a PDF. RPGs are bigger now than ever! Don’t worry about the future… It’ll work itself out!
True, just look at normal printing! People have home printers but for one reason or another if you want a top end print you go to a professional printer. They can do it to a higher standard than most home ones. I think it’s going to have a huge impact – I for one would love to make my own stuff in 3ds max and print it off but I’d also love to get the latest models from Corvus Belli, Warlord or GW too.
Happy Sunday!
Curis looks different.
We really miss you, could you please do “Safety Regulations for Codex Handling, By Warren & James” ? Hopes GW will let you come back to BoW someday. Cheers!
Happy Sunday!
When it comes to 3D printing, look for Barnacules Nerdgasm on YouTube, not as weird as the name sounds, but an ex Microsoft software engineer who does a lot of work with 3D printers, including experimental materials(even stuff that’s partly metal), and has some great guides on how it all works.
Happy Sunday! ^_^
Another enthusiastic professional, fills me with confidence for the Conan KS. Plus what a nice bloke.Good show guys!
News, previews, opinion, and show & tell. This was about as perfect as a Weekender can be. Don’t let Jamie off so easily next time. Give us the Rackham gossip!
Though the comments on the financial report thread were a little unfair. Especially to @osbad who put in some research to see where GW’s six-monthly revenue ranked with their previous ones.
Just to be clear I wasn’t referring to @osbad‘s analysis 🙂
The themes were a ‘general’ set from around the inter webs.
Now specifically on Osbad’s chart I was looking at that earlier in the week, but I’m still struggling to really gauge what it’s significance is… (I basically understand it, but am not sure it actually means anything)
Perhaps if we were able to put into context of similar company positions it would be more clear if it means anything, but there again I’ve been hard pressed to think of even a single company who A provides corresponding data & B shows any similarity to GW at all.
If I’d been able to contextualise it more I would have raised it on the show specifically because it was a great piece of work.
I wrote a couple of the comments that were read out so it seemed liked the thread is where the discussion was coming from.
Sorry mate I read them direct from the running order (one of the other chaps dropped them in there) I thought they were sanitised ‘impressions’ just to set a tone to start talking from.
But again it was meant just to set a tone of a ‘typical’ style response before throwing in some unasked for opinion on the matter 🙂
Rackham gossip would be great give my retro gaming playing Hybrid, and I am soon to branch out into Confrontation, Dogs of War, and Rag’narok
Re the discussion around 23 mins.
Probably the best tactical game of all time plays out on the same map – not only that it always uses the same armies. Yet in the hands of skilled players can vary so much game to game. I am of course referring to Chess.
Now Chess with objective cards… there’s a thought!
@cavatore has already beat you to it mate 😉
There is, or was, a great addition to Chess called Knightmare Chess. I’ve no idea if it is still in production, but it radically changed the game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knightmare_Chess
To clarify on the Myth cards.
There’s a community building on both Megacon and BoardGameGeek forums especially. Megacon have released 3 Fireborne patches containing PDFs etc of updated cards and various community members have set up ‘print projects’ at printer studio.com with the correct card fronts/backs all organised so you can just drop the project in your basket and check it out. All with the legal IP blessing of Megacon providing it’s not someone else making money out of it.
The standard size cards are straightforward – the smaller item cards more of an issue.
Printerstudio have fulfilment centres in both the US and Germany, and with the right free postage coupon is worth considering if you like your Myth and want to keep it but to date.
Having said that there is a Myth 2 KS expected soon and hopefully up to date card sets will be an option, but if you can’t wait…
I had to stop the video to post this!
I agree totally with Lloyd about the impact cheap 3D printing could have on the gaming industry, and I have to say Warren that you are looking at things through rose tinted spectacles. DRM will always be circumvented, and as soon as that is done once for an item that file will spread like wildfire. The other problem is people buying the file (or getting a cracked version), and then selling loads of physically printed copies to mates and on Ebay dirt cheap. The only way DRM would be able to work (ignoring it getting cracked) would be for people to need to own specific software that supported DRM, and for there to be a count on the number of models you could produce off those plans: eg, a plan where you could print off a single model would be cheaper than a plan where you could print off multiple models. All fine, until your printer jams (etc) and the print is messed up. Down the drain your money goes, and then you pop on the internet to get the cracked file.
The analogy with Linux/Windows and GIMP/Photoshop is also totally wrong. Windows is installed on more machines, because it is easier to work for novices and industry standard software originated on it. It is only relatively recently, in “computer years”, that a Linux install has been user friendly out of the box, and has user friendly applications, and every flavour of Linux is still different enough that a complete novice would struggle moving between machines. Plus, as PC’s only tend to come with Windows installed, it’s a captive market unless someone later branches out into Linux. Photoshop and GIMP have the same argument: GIMP originated on Linux and was not very user friendly, because it was written by and for hobbiests, while Photoshop was on a widespread OS and was written to be saleable. Photoshop is still preferable for companies, because it is an industry standard piece of software that people work on (so no additional training costs to learn), with a work-flow evolution that is professionally supported. Hobbiest owners of Photoshop generally have cracked copies, because the legitimate software is so expensive. So, yes, Photoshop and Windows are used more than GIMP and Linux, but primarily due them being “industry standard” software and ease of use (and a captive market, in the case of Windows). A DRM 3D file is going to be exactly the same as a cracked 3D file, except that it is free. A professionally created 3D object is *potentially* going to be more aesthetically pleasing than something an amateur produces, but the ability of a company to survive on the sale of the 3D plans will still come down to how many plans it can sell before a cracked file becomes available.
3D printers have a few decades to go before they are a household item, such as a toaster, where the “general public” do not need to know anything about it’s operation. But it is only that that stage, where more owners *don’t* know how it works compared to the number of owners who *do* know how it works, that DRM would be a realistic expectation to be able to protect enough of the market for 3D models to be profitable.
I think the future IS bright for hobby games players, but I think the future is uncertain for the evolution of companies trying survive in a 3D printer world. However, saying that, 4Ground still has the advantage that its product is pre-coloured.
Although a lot of what you are saying in your post is true, it’s not the whole story. 3D printing is going to change the miniature industry just as the digital age has changed so many others. You can’t however get hung up on singular aspects or control issues, that is where companies will fail. The industry will need to be ready to adapt to the changing circumstances
I agree with Lloyd’s concerns as history has shown that some companies/manufacters simply won’t accept this. They will think they can stand their ground and win. They won’t, a large part of the music industry tried this, (some are still trying) they may win an occasional battle but the war is lost. Fortunately for the music industry many of them were big enough (after fleecing their customers for so long) that despite the losses incurred they were able to stay in business. This will not be the case in the miniature game, any company that tries to fight the internet and what we, the consumer, can get off it for free will go out of business.
I also agree with Warren though that we should not worry too much about it. This industry is expanding and filled with adaptable people, many of whom will see the futility of fighting change and will instead expend their energies in opening new revenue streams and methods of making your product pay for you.
With this in mind I segway to the discussion at the end of XLBS and Games Workshop.
Now before I go any further I should confess that I dislike GW as a business. I don’t have a problem with their games or their products, which I actually like, but dislike their business practices. Just thought I would get it out there, as I am about to say something negative about them but hopefully you’ll realise I’ve already factored that into my analysis.
If any company based on it’s historical behaviour could be described as a front runner for not accepting the change that is going to shake up this industry it is Games Workshop. Although I’m not 100% sure they will go to war with the internet to try and retain control of their intellectual property and keep their traditional revenue streams flowing as freely as they ever have, you have to accept it is incredibly likely they will. Also as I have already suggested if they do they will lose, and they won’t have the billions that the music or film industry had already made to fall back on.
This is why falling sales at this time is even more critical and GW need to be doing more. Re-launching Warhammer Fantasy isn’t going to be enough, expanding the background of the already existing 40k product range won’t be enough. They need a new product ranges, fresh ideas, otherwise I give them 5-10 years before they are gone (or at least bought out and somebody else running the show).
just re-read the end of my last post and to clarify when I say new product range I am referring to a new game as opposed to just a new army or new models for existing armies.
Wow. Nearly speechless! What a FANTASTIC show! I spent it painting at the same time of course, but what an absolutely amazing 100 minutes well spent! Having Jamie in was brilliant and I loved listening to him make his points. Best part is I finished the show fully energized! Warhammer Fantasy is my favorite GW flavor, and to hear so many positive comments just makes me feel good. End Times has been amazing, and I know that you guys probably don’t track this but … ET: Thanquol sales apparently crashed the servers, the demand was so high. ET: Khaine I believe sold out online in around 6 minutes; I know I made my purchase, chatted with some co-workers and 15 minutes later when I looked back at the screen it was sold out!
I’m glad to hear WHFB is doing well too, I hope GW do recover from the bad rep they’ve had because they do have amazing miniatures. The rules systems could do with updating I think though. I play 40k and Bolt Action regularly and 40k feels like a grind compared to BA’s random turn activation or even Infinity’s choice of order expenditure (use all your orders on one bloke who then goes on to bash everyone’s head in like Rambo OR spread them out like a normal person).
@tigerdave, servers did go down, but the book did not sell out for a week, in the UK at least. So much slower than previous. In addition when it came up it was behind a filter to prevent DDOs according to my browser.
I agree the end time books to date are fantastic. However, I believe 9th ed is shaping upto be a poor product, because of design decisions being made. I fully intend to look at the game on release and judge it on it merits but @warzan‘s enthusiasm is coming from someone who does not like current fantasy, so it may work for the company but not the current fan base. Yes we can move onto something else or older editions, my intent, but it won’t retain my custom for games workshop.
Two things struck me as I watched this week’s XLBS:
1) If you don’t look directly at Lloyd, it looks as though he’s wearing a huge flowery tie.
2) Lloyd and Warren are two sides of a coin: Warren is a Google designer (“blue-sky” thinking), and Lloyd is a Google engineer (seeing how that translates into reality). 😀
Great to hear somebody being really positive about GW
Happy Sunday…
very interesting show… that 3d printing was impressive
oh no , no more bean tin buildings, you can now print your desired design Lloyd. and that will make she who must be obeyed happy too….no more junk clogging up the place..lol
One concern I had reading some of the WHFB rumours was that GW were going down the route of limited edition models, because that also held the danger of rules-creep to sell those models. While watching the XLBX it occurred to me that they could still run limited editions without rules-creep, by having limited editions of the same characters: no rules-creep, and people wanting their cookie-cut heroes to look different to their mate’s version. Probably something more in line with Forgeworld though, than standard GW product.
I say “concern”, although I haven’t played WHFB in many editions. Since they started introducing cookie-cutter character units to be precise. I like the freedom of “gaming in the gaps”, rather than having to rely on expensive models that come with specific desirable rules. I suppose that I could have used rules from one character unit with a proxy model, and renamed the unit, but there are always asshats out there that insist on you having to have spent the money on a specific model to use its rules.
Hobby Lab ideas:
– Terrain build, layout, and objective cards for a “map” used in a wargame. Even better if they can be used for multiple systems.
– How to design objective cards for maps and game systems.
– How to design AI decks for single play, and/or random AI factions in a multi-player game (such as spawn pool effects on the Tyranid map you’ve created).
The way I see it, fixed maps are just another way to bash newbies.
I used to play hardcore tournament paintball (and I have the trophies to prove it). There was NEVER EVER the same field layout at a tournament. For practice, we set up a new field layout for every single week.
I can see the appeal, though. It appeals to the eliminate all randomness, practice til perfection mindset. Personally I prefer a more adaptive play style and environment.
Because doing the same thing over and over again is just boring — even if you win.
I see the potential of “fixed maps” as eliminating the typical practice of getting a load of scenery and dumping it down in a semi-random fashion. A set of well designed maps, printed out for set-up reference, can only lead to more enjoyable games in my opinion. Add in a set of objective cards, and you have huge scope for diversity. Playing on the same map, week in week out, would not be good though.
As for tournament play, you could even incorporate fixed maps into that: everyone play on the same map on round one, which then changes into a different map for round two, etc. At least there would be no arguments about terrain affecting the overall results. 😉
Get Jamie Johnson on the show more often guys. He makes for an excellent guest – talkative, passionate and knowledgable.
As for the content, I’m really excited to see you guys explore 3d printing. And even though i’d given up on WHFB long ago I gotta say, these rumours are actually getting me quite pumped up for the new version…
I meant to leave this thought in the VLOG on your map idea but I guess here is just as good. I really like the idea of preset known maps like this, its what makes competitive games like Starcraft work so well, some maps are known to slightly favour certain races or tactics and thus in a best of three set up the loser can pick a map that favours his race or playstyle offsetting the disadvantage he finds himself in. I also think it’s exciting to consider how these maps may actually create their on meta for the game as people discover that due to map layout, long range fire is a waste of time and therefor go for more assault based armies or that due to the special rule for cathedral certain units become a must pick which otherwise you might not even include in your army. It’s funny that Jamie mentioned League of Legends because when you were first talking about this whole concept I was reminded of a video I watched from the excellent guys at Extra Credits on the incredible amount of work put into the main map for League (here’s the link if you are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUWx0I5i2Jw)
I’m super excited to see how the maps effect the 40k meta and I’m more than a little tempted to get back into it so I can get involved too!
This was a great XBLS! loved hearing from the two guests – always great to hear from people who are passionate about what they do I think.
i’d love a 3D printer to make copies of master models, but I doubt I can afford one – my Father might get one in a year or two though as he is a technophille so I might get access to one in time (I can just pay him for the printouts!) – do the printers come with scanners or do you have to buy those seperately? Does anyone know?
All in all, really enjoyed this episode, thanks a lot guys
Just guessing hear but you will need a PC with a CAD program, or bye
& download what you want to make?
@warzan – so glad you guys enjoyed my little prize! 😀
A couple of points. I used photoshop to create the custom cards. Along with the custom cards, there were a couple of MegaCon cards from Patch 1.1. The neat thing is you can’t tell them apart.
The BGG community created Photoshop card templates for all the MegaCon cards (with permissions from MegaCon). While I didn’t create the templates, I did USE them to create the additional content from scratch. All the custom artwork was sourced publicly. I tried to find art that matched Keith’s style. I think I did okay …
Warren if you have questions, please PM me. I know there were a bunch of details in the letter I included 🙂
I didn’t have time to look too closely at the video to spot the custom cards . What do your custom cards do?
Link to BGG for that answer – http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/179813/mistermanns-collection-myth-customizations
really great show have to say probably the best weekender/xlbs combo I have watched .Saturday show was great for the conan input and jamies passion for the project but the sunday xlbs was even better .while its great to hear warrens and loyds views on the industry it seemed that both you made a conscious to take a step back and allow your guest a platform to shine which is a credit to your hosting skills
I want to carefully word this, because I don’t want to be misread, but if I were an investigative journalist, I would have to ask you @warzan, is there a new relationship with GW?
I ask because the coverage of GW by BoW has changed starkly in the last few months. Going back to as recent as September, there was doubt and irreverence toward new releases from GW, particularly speculations about space hulk releases and release schedules and GW profit margins; combined with a general confusion about GW plans.
Starting from the Post-end times rumors, there is the rise of a confident, predictive voice; a voice that doesn’t question GW plans, but extrapolates on rumoured information, sets down how it will be, rather than speculating, and makes corrective statements that are implied to be verified.
The coverage has softened too, there is a less critical voice against GW, their sales losses are no longer a downward slide, but a middling blip. Their games have dominated secondary discussions, which is arguably not unusual given their size, but contrasts the coverage of the previous year. New GW releases might have got a 15 minute review last year, now all the 40k armies are being dusted off, touched up and ready to become the focus of a massive and extensive barrel series. (Again, it’s not unusual given the games popularity, but its a contrast to last year.)
Collection as the core of the hobby – that’s also a bit of a contrast – I went searching for the weekender where you said just the opposite, that games and community were the core of the hobby, that if we don’t meet and play and maintain a community for that, that it won’t matter how much new kit GW creates. Was it a change in the passion of where your mind is at, or has your thinking changed on the subject (I couldn’t find the weekender with that thread, but hopefully it rings enough of a bell with you as it did for me)
Now I really don’t mean to imply anything nefarious or shady or make any accusations, and I want to be clear on that, as my comment will likely suck negative thumbs like a hooker in a Thai Internet cafe. But I have to wonder, has someone reached out and started a relationship? Or perhaps implied the potential of a relationship? Is there some kind of word that GW might be willing to reach out to the right partner? Or someone inside who has agreed to source on the condition of better coverage? Or is it just a personal shift that GW is a better company that it was being given credit for last year?
No real change regarding GW, we might have a little more info than before meaning we’re gradually getting the hang of things, rather than the onslaught we witnessed a year ago.
My comment about the core of the hobby was about the core of a persons hobby, not the core of the hobby industry which is community etc. (Was talking about two different things)
As regards these latest results, well they were better than before, and there has been a change of guard so I suppose we may be cutting some slack at the moment to give them time to do what they plan to do.
So no, not much has changed, we are just trying to be as fair as we can and leave the past in the past.
Fair enough, I’m satisfied with that; and you’re right, past is the past.
I think you’re splitting grammatical hairs on the core of the hobby arguement but I’ll let you have it on account of your gregarious nature 🙂
I can only tell you what I meant 😉
Great to see someone who can give @warzan a run for his money in the talkalympics! Get Jamie on the show more often!
Maybe your map tables could be hexagonal to give more approach angles and opportunities for flanking? Your bolt action 3-way (last weekends show) could be called Nuts and Bolt Action
I do love me a Weekender and an XLBS.
A pair of awesome shows this week.
As for 3d printing, you should watch video games moding … there are free mods with models more detailed or better made than the original ones …
sure workshop will release loads of marines models, but there will be fans making their own versions, and some will be as good or better than the official ones.
do not underestimate the quality that fans can produce, herrigold s cards just show it …
Really enjoyed this one. Some really cool interviews and nice to see someone in the gaming industry (Jamie) who is clearly a real gamer and just a little bit too enthusiastic about some things (like the rest of us).
Thanks guys
Another great great show guys. Easily worth the sub on its own. Superb enthusiastic and informed guest this week in the form of Jamie from the world of Conan. Would love to hear his thoughts on other games too.
Great idea on the signature tables. The GW stores of old used to do that as set pieces were more durable and impressive than modular terrain. We would have regulars come in the store and would know the tables well but still be taught new tricks by guys who could think outside the box (ie. Gantry A offers perfect line of sight but meltabombing one support would bring it down).
Dreadball is coming along nicely but I’m fully invested in Guildball at the moment. Which, unfortunately is being impacted along with many businesses, by the untimely death of Mr Griffin from Griffin moulds. A few kickstarters I’ve backed have had the designs and IP ready to go but rely so heavily on others to manufacture and ship from China that the passion by those that want to play can sometimes get lost to time. Something that a future in 3D printing may resolve.
If GW were to embrace social media and open channels with its customer base that would be a monumental step forward for them. Yep, gone are the days of us all spending days in our local GW store painting and playing but as a result of that (and lots of other games to play) there are 3 large gaming clubs in my hometown alone. I’m loving the quality of the produce still and the books are an absolute joy to behold. I think if they could merchandise their IP such as Bulldog Buckle used to, sell maps, banners, bullets etc that would sell well. Also if they embraced airbrushing as vallejo have done that won’t hurt their paint range either.
Loved the show and Jamie added some new energy of his own to proceedings. XLBS Is something very special; in the saturated online world of comment; XLBS is unique! No where outside of back stage, offers me this level of diversity and knowledge about my hobby. Bash on chaps, long may you rein.
Really enjoyed this show today. Jamie was fantastic! I loved his passion for what he is creating with Conan and his passion for his own personal gaming. Would love to see him back on the show for a run through of the Conan. Also am so excited about the giveaway – what generous prize.
Warhammer40k has always seemed so daunting to me. A game that I might never get the hang or. However my husband has been playing for years and LOVES it. My son has recently expressed interest and now as a family we have been playing Dawn of War together, against each other etc etc. I think it was their way of getting me to understand the aspects of the game, the factions, the fluff etc etc and throw in BoW and the passion you all have for the game,I am now hooked. I LOVE Space Marines but now looking closely at the Sisters of Battle. We have been browsing our local game store and looking at 40k Stuff and I think I am now ready for the table top version…… To Battle!
Have a great week!
the nuns with the guns LOL
Exactly!! To me my sisters! lol
Look forward to the new Raging Heroes Kickstarters, you will end up with a bleeding smile :D.
Listening to the great show and the passion within it, makes me happy that the hobby it not lost. Poor Lloyd could not get in as much but what he did say I agreed with completely.
I am as stated in previous posts, a historical gamer, but I have a 40k marines and Chaos army and i have ventured into dreadball purely through the BoW content.
These weekender’s and xlbs, I feel are excellent forums for the hobby community and are giving both insight and perspective. My first views a couple of years ago was that this was a ‘we hate GW blog!’ But it is more a, GW, we want you in our hobby, but for gods sake listen to your community, not the 12 year olds, but the true, committed people with the money to spend on the hobby.
Sorry I, really wanted to say, keep this level of weekender and xlbs up! Conan, I am really tempted!! Thanks Jamie…
Fantastic weekender. This is why I am in backstage. BRING JAMIE BACK. Great guy that is clearly very gamer savvy. Superb episode, well done boys.
How do I see the future of the gaming industry? Affordable laser cutting and 3D printing and crowdfunding gives the opportunity to passionate (would be) game designers like Jamie to realize their own projects. If this hobby continues to develop so nicely, I believe that we, but especially our children will have a helluva time playing games.
Now, let’s take a close look at that Conan game…
Great show guys.
3D printers will change the gaming world like computer lathe’s have changed the engineering world making high precision detailed parts quickly and cheaply for mutable customers’ on the same machines in smaller workshops.
I think the limited runs are hurting GW why go to the shop when its not got the figure you were after because the run has sold out the day they came out?
I saw the thingiverse link & I though that was for the Warhammer gamers?
Jamie Johnson is truly amazing, please stay… please.
James M Hewitt, there is no positive adjective in the english dictionary that hasn’t already being said to describing him, so.. Sos un Groso, Sabelo!
Curtis, tons space to fill but you are a really cool guy, looking forward to more drunk one-eye pigs and sexy shark ladies.
About 3d Printing : Steam, Steam and Steam. Here in my country it was common practice to pirate EVERYTHING, that was until Steam from Valve put some heave price drops for many of their products and tons of good service around them, now we know we just have to wait for the heavy discount sales. Same goes with Humble Bundle that is incredible amazing, GoG does a pretty good job in a similar fashion.. and we love Kickstarter. Same happen with music, Spotify, Youtube and many other service made it available via legal channels and we can now enjoy it and give money to the content producers rather than download shaddy stuff that we have to keep in our hard drives and not having easy access to it anywhere. The best way to combat piracy is not just DRM and legal harrasment, is more about giving the users affordable prices AT SOME POINT ( we can wait, is even good as a second wave of money rather than no money afterwards ) and good service around it. I hope most of game producers and manufacturing decide to put their expertice into this and make some sort of Steamish system but for miniatures.
Warhammer Fantasy will be amazing and i would love to get into 40k some day… but first i need to finish all that i have… Deadzone terrain and no airbrush…
Bring on more and more Dreadball. Our league is seasons 1-3 and it’s still b*st*rd fun. Let’s have it – more teams, more MVPs.
In case you’re wondering I lost 1-0 yesterday. Tremendous fun all the same.
Mantic have played an absolute blinder with this Dreadball it’s not getting tired.
Nice vid as always, gents! You’ve given me a lot to think about as I plug away at my Bolt Action Germans (and debate where to invest my wargaming monies…so many options!)
I recently purchased a Printrbot Metal Plus 3D printer. This a Dust Tactics proxy tank trap I designed on Tinkercad and printed on the 3D printer. This photo has them painted and weathered. My design is on the right and Dust’s models is on the left
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204855185251093&set=gm.344875239047190&type=1&theater
I love the idea of the boards for 40k and Im delighted were going to get to take part, cheers.
I cracked my arse laughing when Jaime said that he thought Warren said he had a Scooby Doo problem, what an entertaining and likable guy. I love Judge Dredd too and you werent alone in picturing floating islands either for Fantasy. Im all for the changes and its a beautiful thing to see someone apart from myself singing GWs praises lately, the quality of product is astounding these days. They broke me completely with the Glottkin. Separated at birth is what Im saying. Hope to see you on the show again.
Great show lads, cheers.
Easily the best xlbs I have seen . Worth the horrible streaming/block I have to endure every week here trying to watch it in Beijing.
@warzan i am having big trouble getting this video to start, and it is the same on several different pcs and my ipad both yesterday and today.
just get the “flowplayer” black screen wih the turning circle and nothing happens at all.
Have you done anything different this time?
Excellent show as always, looking forward to the new Dreadball shows, if only we could get James M Hewitt back in 🙁
Well done mistermannmindy! I’ve got those cards coming in the mail, along with the 1.3 patch cards you uploaded on BGG. From a true noob who has never ordered anything like this before, thanks very much for doing all this.
Glad to share! 😀 Hope you enjoy the cards.
Awesome show as always. So looking forward to 3D printing becoming more accessible, I’ve got some barrels that kerrigold did for me and they’re brilliant. Also gotta say, the idea of a skirmish level entry into fantasy has really ignited my interest in the game, the large model count required has always put me off.
Good luck with that battle reports, looking forward to the build vlogs 🙂
Hurray! The return of Dreadball Academy. That’s the series that led me to Beasts of War in the first place.
I highly doubt GWs main demographic is 12 year old boys. I would think it’s more men 35+ who can actually afford these toys.
12 year old boys, with wealthy parents who want lots of ” mummy and daddy time”
Wow I love your custom cards @mistermannindy! Really cool concept.
As for the WFRB I have to go 40k on this: “The Emperor protects” 😉
I’m still going to base my miniatures on square bases and simply look for some sort of add-on or clip-on circular bases to alter them to the circular format GW wants to adopt. My main reason being is due to changing to circular bases you are essentially preventing yourself from ever playing an older edition of warhammer fantasy and as they have said older army books will no longer be receiving updates or support they will inevitably fall off outside of the fabled 6 remaining armies which means that at some point the only real worth while way of playing your old armies will be under the old rule sets which has no room for circular bases.
Not to mention the amount of paint damage you can cause by uprooting your miniatures to change their bases around.
Meant to say this a few days ago! I hope you guys see it.
It was a crazy notion I had when you mentioned making battle reports have a e-sports aspect to them. A couple of youtubers you might want to look up, Unit Lost. They’re two guys who are massive fans of 40K, they record let’s plays and a host of other videos and always jump on anything GW related.
They’ve recently started up new 40K armies each as well.
Not sure if itd be something BoW would be interested in, but they’re very enthusiastic commentators of gameplay and are fairly local.
Just a wild idea.
Good episode lads. As someone who has never played WHFB it sounds interesting what GW is trying to do, but regardless of the result, I’ll likely continue to be disinterested.
With relation to 40k battle reports on the specific maps, I’m not sure about the efficacy of your plan. I can certainly see its potential. I might certainly draw some viewers in to the battle reports. On the other hand, I wonder if people don’t watch battle reports because it’s simply not that interesting to watch other people play a game?
With American football winding down for the season…will Xtreme scratch that itch for a sports game? I think so.
Great show and great guest. Good to see someone so knowledgeable about the industry on. Keep up the good work!