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Roboute Guilliman Returns To Warhammer 40,000
February 3, 2017 by brennon
Well, this was on the cards, wasn't it! Roboute Guilliman is returning to the world of Warhammer 40,000 in a set of three miniatures from Games Workshop. Will he be able to save the Imperium? You can see the new model and the cover of the upcoming White Dwarf HERE.
The Primarch of the Ultramarines and possibly the greatest Space Marine commander has been resurrected. You'll also see that he comes with the Fallen Angel himself, Cypher (seen on the left of the big image). There is also a third character which I can't quite place right now.
Taking a look at the fluff mentioned in the leak Roboute is non-best pleased with the way the Imperium has changed and Cypher, while seemingly on his side, appears to have annoyed him too.
What do you think is going to unfurl during this next chapter of the story?
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Initial reaction – Mmm’kay, cool, was gonna happen eventually. Maybe they’ll do an interesting Primarch too.
Upon seeing the model – Bwhahahaha, what the hell is going on with his legs?!
I mean, I don’t want to be unbearably smug, but with my powers of complete guesswork, I said this not long ago when talking about what might be coming up next after the Biel-Tan stuff.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/warhammer-40k/fracture-bieltan-strikes-warhammer-40000-gathering-storm-ii/#comment-331695
“I think you’re missing the obvious in that if they carry on doing triumvirates then we’ll see a Space marine one. The large mini could be a Primarch even. Hasn’t Guillman been rumoured?
A complete guess if we’re looking at advancing the storyline you could have Cyper appear.”
Now to use my powers for good or evil….
On point dude 😉
You were right on the money Fleety… which clearly means you are an unsanctioned psyker. Someone call the Ordo Hereticus, we have a witchbreed here! 😉
Been saying for the last year or so this would happen 😉
Now lion, russ, vulkan and dorn….
Unified eldar happened yet 😉
And another precognitive witch for the Inquisition’s pyre. Keep this up, and the Imperium will be able to phase out Promethium in favour of a cheaper fuel source… 😉
Dude! Misuse your new-found 40k authority and name something crazy for your next update figure-forecast!
the return of… Doomrider!
I’m interested to see where this ends up going, I would also like to know more about the fellow in the cape to the right of Guillman.
Folks are saying that the triple model set will be Cypher, Roboute, and Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights.
I think that is the new Cypher model.
Especially with the caption reading “Cypher’s Back.”
The caped model is certainly Cypher, which if you are new to the hobby, you might not be aware of, because the old one must be 15+ years old.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cypher
is a link if you want to know more about him. The marines painted in black (pre-heresy Dark Angel colours) are most definitely some of The Fallen
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Fallen
What he is up to, there’s all sorts of crazy rumours about (I’ve seen one saying he kills Abaddon, although I’m extremely skeptical of that).
Cypher has always been a wild card. He and the other Fallen don’t seem loyal to Chaos. I’m expecting that he’ll do something to redeem the Fallen (assassinating chaos characters seems in line with that).
http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/warhammer-40000/forum/topic/gathering-storm-fall-of-cadia/#post-187112
Not been to far from the mark so far plot up for grabs but im standing by who will return…
yaaaaaaaaaaasss.. ultramarines assemble!
This looks pretty awesome in my opinion. Now. Gimme Russ!
Warren told us about this some month ago. 🙂
I guess next one is Leman Russ and than some other Demon Primach. I am exited about it.
There are some leaked pictures of maybe Mortarion (Death Guard Primarch) floating about.
I’ve seen some pretty out there rumours about Slaneesh (to do with recent Eldar story events), that would change things to perhaps it being easier to sell models (i.e. make the background not so “R” rated).
So if it’s cypher and roboute, is that flaming sword Roboute’s weilding the Lion Sword?
That would be an interesting twist.
Did the Lion Sword burn like that? The only burning blade I can remember fro the Heresy era was the Emperor’s force weapon, but since Guilliman isn’t a psyker he shouldn’t be able to wield it, and since Cypher is there I imagine the Lion Sword is as good a bet as any.
It’s mentioned on the Warhammer community site that its one of the Emperor’s blades. The Lion Sword is on the back of Cypher.
Yeah, I am pretty sure it’s one of Emperor’s blades.
That fiery sword looks pretty good. Flames are an easy thing to wrong in my opinion and they’ve done a really good job on that sword.
Harlequin rules for GofC, nice, oh and the Primarch is pretty good to 🙂
Its cool seeing a more dynamic Roboute than the pretty static Forge world one.
If its that he is not happy with the imperium as it stand it would be interesting to see the Ultramarines maybe split off from the rest of the Empire.
The Khan would be a good one to have released after all isn’t he held by that Necron that was on Cadia? of is he with the Eldar?? still would have fitted in better the story either way.
Expancding on @seira034 ‘s comment, in the heresy era novels, when Macragge was cut off from Terra with the warp storms, there was an arc in the story about setting up a salvaged, back-up second imperium. Would be a nice plot point to have history repeat itself.
That sounds cool. Good to see there is a president.
Imperium Secundus take two? Why not? With the Emperor (‘daddy’ to Guilliman, one assumes) out of commission on the Golden Throne, and with the Imperium in disarray and having fallen into ignorance, superstition and totalitarianism, it seems like Guilliman might well be tempted to hit the reset button and try to recreate the Imperium as he believes the Emperor originally envisioned it.
And thus bring in the Age of Gulluman?
I doubt it will be that be that easy and straightforward @somegeezer – I imagine powerful religious groups like the Eclesiarchy and their Battle Sisters, along with the Black Templars and some elements of the Inquisition, might not be thrilled with Guilliman trying to recreate a secular Imperium, and then there is Celestine to consider – what would her place be in a galaxy that doesn’t revere the Emperor as a god?
A seriously nasty Imperial civil war, perhaps even on a scale comparable to the Horus Heresy, seems to be on the cards as soon as the immediate threat of the Thirteenth Black Crusade is dealt with. And then there is the recent fluff revealed over on the Warhammer Community site that suggests that Guilliman’s resurrection was effected both by Belisarius Cawl’s arcane Imperial technology and what is described as ‘fell xenos sorcery’ courtesy of Yvraine, the Emissary of Ynnead, whose powers over death were instrumental in perking Guilliman back up. That fact is unlikely to go unmarked by those who would benefit by casting the returned Guilliman as corrupted, and thereby casting his agenda of secularization and enlightenment (at least as Guilliman understands the concept) in the same light.
It is even conceivable that the Imperium won’t remain one, united empire, with the old guard instead holding on to much of the contemporary Imperium’s territory, perhaps centered on Terra, and Guilliman seeking to create another Imperium Secundus in a manner that he would think of as being a true inheritor of the Emperor’s vision. Neither side would be likely to get on over well with the other even after the fighting stops, so a sci fi Cold War in the 40K universe might be the temporary result.
The Imperium besieged on all sides and they start a vicious civil war. That sounds all too horribly likely 🙂
Smart move, mankind. Smart move!
I know what you mean @somegeezer – infighting is the last thing the Imperium needs when the situation is so dire. Even if the threat of Chaos was temporarily put in abeyance, there would still be Necron Tomb worlds waking up hither and yon all over the galaxy, Orks multiplying and massing for renewed Waaghs under the leadership of Ghazghul, the Tau still looking to increase their domains at the expense of the Imperium (and because the Tau have no idea yet how dangerous the galaxy truly is) and the little matter of the vast armies of near limitlessly numerous killer space bugs so deadly they would make daddy Xenomorph proud, all hell bent on sweeping in and killing and eating everyone, and yet as usual the Imperium chooses politicking over unity – the folly of a blinkered, fallen humanity in thrall to ignorance and superstition.
Just as well the actual human species isn’t so foolish, eh?
***Looks at the state of the world***
Oh, yes. Perhaps we aren’t so different after all…
Wasn’t that the story in the Dornian Heresy alternative narrative?
I didn’t have high expectations for smurf primarch and turns out I was right to do so as he looks so silly. Kinda makes me wonder how silly Leman Russ is going to look and it makes me careful when wanting to see Lion El´Johnson come back.
This is the best moment for GW to explore and define 40k, on hindsight is was foreshadowed by Greyfax and her shock on what Imperium has become in the millenia she was away.
Now Guilman an original who has lived with the Emperor and shaped the Imperium wakes to find everybody in a religious fanaticism departed from Imperial Creed as far as it can ever be and his own legion in the same shape, things should be interesting.
I just don’t have high hopes for GWs talent to write the story properly they failed miserably on the end times even though they had gems in it.
They’re definitely better at quantity than quality when it comes to fiction, though they’re far from alone in that regard when it comes to the minis industry (which is why I was pleased to see that it seems Corvus Belli have hired an actual comic book creator to write their comic, rather than doing it in-house).
Don’t forget it was Guilman who was ordered by his father to destroy the city his brother Lorgar had built in dedication to his father the emperor and now the entire Imperium is mirror of that city I think it was called Malarkia.
If The Terminator to the right of Roboute in the photo is not Draigo, I will eat my hat.
Ready your hat eating knife and fork!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/03/gathering-storm-iii-rise-of-the-primarch-first-look/
Oh I feel so uncivilized now, I always eat my hats with my bare hands 😉
You barbarian!
No erion it’s not draigo… I read somewhere hang on
Oh my bad you already found it lol
@erion Let’s just hope your hat is made of chocolate, just in case.
I wonder what Cypher and the Fallen fighting on the Imperial side means for the Dark Angels?
That’s interesting point since Dark Angels have wanted to bring Cypher to hands of they Interrogator-chaplains and when ever they have had him he ends up escaping. So really he is they main target as far as the Fallen go.
I think @irredeemable is hinting at something more nuanced and deep, such as the hinted conspiracy theory that cropped up that the actual active Dark Angels in current 40k aren’t necessarily the ‘good guys’ or perhaps aren’t the ones we think they are from the fall of Caliban
Idea of whole hunting the Fallen does go down to Dark Angels wanting to keep they secret from other servants of the God Emperor and it leads to them keeping secrets even inside they own chapter. So really while they defend mankind and Imperium they have they own agendas and are willing to act based on it. By no means they are good guys but then again no one in 40k universe is. IMO they just happen to be one of more interesting SM chapters.
There’s always been a bit of a conspiracy theory that the surviving Dark Angels are the ones that betrayed the Imperium and annihilated the loyal portion of the Legion on Calibre. They switched back when Horus lost and have been hunting the Fallen to keep this secret ever since.
Space Wolves are the only good guys.
Prehaps G-man will be torn apart by the masses as a heretic…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCFBndlScBc
Well of course he doesn’t like the way the Imperium is today, it’s not really whta his father wanted.
I am an Ultramarines player and was excited but the model isn’t that great, it’S not bad but i think the FW one looks much much better.
While a better look at the Gulliman model is needed to pass final judgement, the legs do look a bit awkward from the angle we have. On the upside, it is good to see Gulliman in a more aggressive, combat pose that helps differentiate him from the more stately and static Forge World 30K Gulliman model, which also speaks to the difference in the situation of the Imperium between the two epochs.
Even though the Imperium in the Heresy Era was facing an apocalyptic civil war, it was still lead by the Emperor and still reflected his vision for a (relatively) more enlightened society than that which went before, and certainly more so than the Imperium has become in the intervening 10,000 years. Conversely, the Imperium, of the 41st Millennium is not only facing an equally grave set of threats all told, but has also rotted and collapsed from within with regard to its knowledge, technology base and efficacy of governance to such a degree that it is probably less able to hold itself together, still less defend itself, than it has been at any period in its history since the Age of Apostasy.
A stately, commanding Guilliman reflects the more ordered, in some ways civilized forms of battle that predominated in the Crusade and early Heresy eras, whereas the combat oriented Guilliman sculpt reflects the fact that the time for such refined, gentlemanly conflict is gone, and saving the Imperium of the 41st Millennium is going to degenerate into a bloody and brutal knife fight of a war, with a more active and aggressive sculpt to reflect that difference in circumstance.
This time, Guilliman won’t be able to play the statesman more than the warrior, leaving Sanguinius to inspire and Lion El Johnsson to fight. This time, he is going to have to get his hands dirty.
Gulliman’s back! And oh my is he pissed!
He is here to kick ass and write tactical texts, and he has run out of tactical texts… 😉
On a tangent, GW’s sense of humour about internet leaks continues to develop apace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhgS_5r7drI
And verily, it is awesome!
https://youtu.be/F5QWb9Bt6zs
Bit more of a sneak peak but you get a better look at the models.
I must say I’m really liking the Guilliman model, especially with that helmet on. This is definitely one I’ll be picking up on release day if I can get a preorder
I agree that Guilliman does look better when you can see him from more angles, and the leg doesn’t appear as awkward when you can see his stance properly.
The helmet option is a nice touch, and the belt fed bolter type gun under his powerfist is interesting as well.
I mentioned it above but the excellent Warhammer community site has put up some proper photos and information:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/03/gathering-storm-iii-rise-of-the-primarch-first-look/
I love the story aspects and the Cypher model is cool! Not too sure about Guilliman, I prefer the forge world version to this. It’s a nice touch that you can give him a helmet as well as bareface and the Emperor’s burning sword looks good, I think maybe its his pose. As this model will be in another triumvirate box with Cypher and the new Grand Master Voldus I’ll probably end up getting it.
Thanks man this the best shots I have seen thus far
So, Guilliman isn’t using the Lion Sword (Cypher is still wearing it on his back, and it is awesome), since it is stated on the Warhammer community page that Guilliman is in fact wielding one the Emperor’s flaming blades. I imagine that thing stings quite a bit when it connects…
I must admit that I like all three of the models here the more I look at them. I would definitely go for the helmeted Guilimman option, Grand Master Voldus really looks the part of a grizzled Grey Knight hero, and Cypher is my favourite of the three – his pose is fantastic, his weapons are customized archeotech pistols that really look the business, and even his ragged, cowled cloak offers the rights sense of mysterious menace.
Seeing the blurry pic on my phone, it seemed to potentially be a nicer mini than forgeworld’s but GW’s video highlights a few issues with the stance and facial detail. Still not a bad mini. The Grey knight really doesn’t stand out.
Cypher however is really rather nice, now will he wake the Angel.
Can I request a 40K Charted special on all this?
Something like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjhzKs_498
My 40k narrative has been a bit messed-up by YouTube and ‘If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device’ 🙂
Guilliman was asleep in some Snow White style glass coffin? I hope they have some awesome narrative and illustrations to tell the story of his wake-up.
Like in that Kenneth Branagh – Thor film when Odin awoke – first thing he must have done is pee a bucketful 🙂
Might not want to go the original Sleeping beauty route, that would be some tricky writing
He was held in a stasis field, after getting his throat cut by Fulgrim, and poisoned from the blade I believe. Legend was he was healing within the field which was said to be impossible.
Oh my.
If they re-do the game this summer and it turns out good then my wallet is a dead man.
Another nice article from the Warhammer Communtiy site:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/03/march-for-macragge/
I like that passge:
“A few pictures of March‘s issue of White Dwarf have been circulating the internet today, but as with all leaks, they were taken during one of Nottingham’s many earthquakes, so the picture resolution is a bit blurry.
So we thought we’d just share the whole article with you!”
Games Workshop has definitely undergone an immense improvement in attitude and fan community relations over the last year. They have clearly realized that all the leaks really are is free publicity, and are only a problem if they make them into one. It is not as though anyone is going to skip the next White Dwarf because a couple of pages have already been seen – the modern White Dwarf magazines have way to much interesting content for that.
On the Warhammer Community website, its states that Guilliman was resurrected by ‘arcane Imperial artifice and fell xenos sorcery’ (perhaps the influence of the Ynnari and the whole power over death thing they have going on?), and I don’t imagine that going down well with the more…conservative aspects of imperial society.
Add in the fact that Guilliman hails from an epoch when the Imperium outlawed all religious observance including the worship of the Emperor (it was the Ultramarines who burned Monarchia to censure Lorgar for just such behaviour after all, and as such Guilliman is likely to view the modern Imperium as a perversion of the Emperor’s intent), and it seems like Guilliman will be very unpopular with the more fanatical aspects of Imperial society, like the Eccelsiarchy, Adpeta Sororitas, Black Templars and some elements within the Inquisition.
Could it be that another Imperial civil war is on the horizon after Abbadon’s current Black Crusade is beaten back? Perhaps even of a magnitude comparable to the Horus Heresy?
I like where you are going with this, just not the massive model to go with it. 40K needs a shake up and a Guiliman is a character with the clout to crack the crusty shell of Imperial society.
Question though. Last I heard the Ultramarines were an ultra conservative and dogmatic chapter glued to the literal word of the codex. Would they all ditch it to unquestioningly follow the man who wrote it it, if he returns and starts to contradict the world the absolutes they cling to?
The ultra marines aren’t really like that. Bad writing in the past has certainly portrayed them like that but the more recent stuff has tried to change it so that they aren’t so rigid.
At the end of the day, ultramarines are probably the most successful chapter; they couldn’t be like that with those faults you’ve listed.
Every chapter has its flaw. With the Ultramarines it is pride/rigid nature.
To the best of my knowledge, the Codex Astartes in the fluff is an incredibly influential text on military tactics and strategy, organization and philosophy, but not a book about theology or civil governance. Also, in the Horus Heresy novels, Guilliman sought to pen as much of his military wisdom as he could, but never intended the Codex Astartes to replace independent initiative and thought on the part of commanders, rather supplementing it by providing a body of knowledge about earlier conflicts and how they were won, along with general principles of the methodology of conflict in the manner of the 40K universe’s version of Sun Tzu’s Art of War. It was later generations who began to apply it dogmatically, as so much of the knowledge of earlier epochs is in the contemporary Imperium, directly against the intent of Guilliman.
Ultimately though, the book only holds the cache it does in the broader Imperium, and Maccrage especially, because of the reputation and influence of its author. Should Guilliman return and wish to revise the Codex, the Ultramarines would certainly go along with his will (so long as they accept that his mind is still his own, which given the manner of his resurrection could be an issue), but what Guilliman is proposing wouldn’t necessitate that, since as I say the Codex Astartes doesn’t deal directly with matters of religious belief.
Add to that the point that the bulk of the Astartes Chapters (with the exception of the Black Templars), and certainly all of the Ultramarines’ own Successor Chapters, have never actually revered the Emperor as a god per se at all, but instead see him as the creators of their Primarchs and an honoured progenitor in some senses, since he created the Primarchs from his own flesh and the geneseed in each Astartes is born of the Primarchs, They essentially see the Emperor as both their warrior liege and forebear, but not as a supernatural deity (again, apart from the Black Templars who do see the Emperor as a god and so are the Ecclesiarchy’s favourite marines).
Indeed, in the lore this has caused great tension between a number of Space Marine chapters and the Ecclesiarchy on several occasions throughout Imperial history, and with Guilliman returning the issue is likely to come to a head in dramatic fashion.
I like the more animated looking figures that’s coming out.
Not keen. There is a lot of fussy detail crammed onto a huge model with an awkward pose (the legs look off to me). I don’t know what it is made of (I’m guessing resin) but I’m sure it will be expensive as hell.
It’s from Games Workshop not Forgeworld so it surely will be plastic, the last box witrh multiple characters for Gathering Storm was plastic and so was Magnus so this will probably be plastic too.
Looks like an amazingly dynamic & characterful model & I’m weirdly excited about what this means for 40k in general.
(With the legs being off, I strongly suspect that has more to do with the dodgy photo on a bent page than GW stuffing up the most high-profile model since, like, ever!)
‘Now lion, russ, vulkan and dorn….’
Lets get it right for you..
Now corax , lion, russ, vulkan and dorn….
There in its proper order 😉
We don’t need no emo goth kid 😉
Dorn, Russ, Vulkan, Khan is the way to go and the Emperor approves.
Thems be fightin’ words @iceeagle85… 😉
I’m really liking the Guiliman and Cypher models – especially now that we can see them properly. the Grey Knight is very nice, but doesn’t seem to have anything particularly special about him.