Weekender XLBS: Talking Kingdom Death Monster Painting!
November 6, 2016 by warzan
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Happy Sunday boys and girls
Harry Potter minis game? That might be my way to get my wife interested in miniatures games. She loves RPGs, but I’ve not found a minis game that she could get into.
happy sunday!
Happy Sunday!
In this week’s episode of “Warren Mangles Science”, as Justin goes “So I have a problem with this, right?” I so wanted him to simply say “It’s B@ll@cks!”
As it is, picking up on the ‘why Ireland’ angle, it’s bloody obvious… the inter-galactic tax arrangements means it’s a good place to locate stuff.
SO why are Google, Microsoft and facebook etc all located in this same place too? They’re clearly run by aliens still attempting to enslave us, this time not through blood-doping, but through the little devices we all carry around with us now. We’ve all seen the ones that have succumbed wandering the streets aimlessly staring at their devices. Pokemon=Go was clearly nothing but a training program.
There is but one hope! BoW must lead the resistance. We must all prepare for the counter-insurgency by buying and modelling lots of miniatures so we can all practice our tactics etc…. doesn’t matter if you buy more than you can model, you can’t have too much and we need to keep it out of the hands of the aliens.
Hang on – there’s someone coming up the stairs. It’s Princess Beatrice and the other one… not it’s not! Quickly, we have to…
Lol im reaching for my sunglasses right now its the only way to see them for what they really are!!!!!!!!! 😉
Sad news for Kingdom Death fans.The lantern festival was cancelled which was the last expansion left to finish off the Kickstarter fulfillment. Adam is issuing a refund for it and thankfully so far the backers of this project are very understanding. That is because unlike some companies like Palladium or Prodos these backers and myself feel like even though there were issues with this Kickstarter Adam Poots (creator) was always honest and forthcoming about any difficulties. In the end he delivered an amazing product and because of the trust he built and his insane drive for perfection we understood when he said he didn’t feel like the last expansion would meet his standards for quality and we trust what he eventually comes up with will be all the better for it whenever and in whatever form it finally takes. Can’t wait for his Kickstarter this November 25th, Excited to see what else is lurking in the dark.
@warwolf thanks for letting me know. gutted, but like you said in his own time. probably could do with so breathing space to promote the game and take the pressure off a little after the burn out of the last few years. take a break Adam mate you deserve it.
I am really looking forward to seeing this one, but unfortunately it seems my internet doesn’t want me too :'(
uggh! Why! why @warzan did you say some of the stuff you did? I feel compelled to respond to defend @dignity and one thing.
Not all war is daft, sometimes war is a fight for survival and when it is that be it due to incursion or due to an ideology which wishes for your absolute destruction that is when war is just. Sometimes people must band together beyond themselves for their defence. Everyone has a right to defend their life.
That out of the way, which is a pretty heavy statement in of itself. The problem is that both Warzan and Justin are right and both of them are wrong, to varying degrees. I think the problem is there is no meeting in the middle. Now I think CGP greys rules for rulers explains a lot of about politics http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/rules-for-rulers
See Justin is right in that there is a limited amount of resources that can be diverted to certain projects, and Warren is right in that there are unlimited resources should effort be applied. But rather than go into the nitty gritty of that, I think I am going to talk about this is why role playing games are really good.
See you could fight over these things all day and get no head way because your ridged in the thinking that you have about that, but role playing games, the ‘fantasy’ element of it be it in this world in an alternative future, a fantastic world, or a sci-fi galaxy, allow you to reset all your biases to zero. You go an you play as the Tulbians and they a fighting the Squarians and it may parallel a conflict we may have here at the moment, and you may see yourself in the real world for the Tublians, but because you reset your bias to zero, you get a fresh perspective and you can see that your more of a Squarian.
We should have a future to ‘fight for’ but in doing so we must not forget the future should not be built upon the bones of our present.
The TL;DR version of how both Warren and Justin are both right.
@dignity , Warren has a point about the reptiles mate. Saint Paddy kicked the snakes out of Ireland, who’s to say that’s nota metaphor for him leading a rebellion against the lizard alien monkey tinkerering slavemasters?
@warzan, so what you are saying is that the population of Northern Ireland are genetically modified ex slaves who overthrew their reptilian alien masters. Have you been watching V the Series lately?
Also, with your interest in exploring space for the betterment on mankind, you need to become an Assgaurdian as well as Justin, cus that’s what the founders of Asgardia are all about.
Im quite happy to delegate that ‘honour’ to the younger, fitter, more leading man type figure that is @dignity 😉
Putting my archaeologist hat back on (it’s not a fedora but it is broad-brimmed…) Sumer was o the first known urban civilisations in Southern Mesopotamia (modern Southern Iraq). It has been suggested that the first settlements sprang up in this area between 5500 and 4000 BC, whilst the first examples of Sumerian Cuneiform writing (some of the earliest for which we have physical remnants) date to 3000 BC.
There is some theory that Sumerians would have populated the area we now know as the Persian Gulf, before it flooded at the end of the last ice age (in much the same way that the remains of settlements have been found on the bed of the North Sea).
The Sumerian civilisation existed broadly concurrent with the Akkadian Empire, from whom the legend of Gilgamesh (the first recorded heroic myth) originated.
An important note is that whilst today the Tigris/Euphrates Valley is largely difficult for humans to inhabit if you travel too far beyond the banks of the rivers, in the periods Sumer was ascendant much of the globe was coming out of an ice age so this area would have been temperate and lush, as such became the forge for much of the farming techniques that laid the foundation for the empires & cultures that flourished around the Mediterranean and spread all the way up to these isles….
If I remember correctly the Sumerians believed that their Gods lived in what is now called Bahrain
I don’t know if there was a direct corrolation between Bharain and the Sumerian pantheon, but it’s thought that it was referenced in the Gilgamesh poem as a paradise. Whilst now it is effectively a barren desert for the period we are talking about it would have been extremely temperate so that would match up.
In fact, excavations of ancient graves have found people buried with pots that contain the remains of snakes. Given this and the presumed climate has given rise to the suggestion that Sumerian-era Bharain may have been the Garden of Eden described in Genesis. Or at least an inspiration for it…..
Blimey @torros – you must be older than you look! Good memory though…
That’s reincarnation for you 😉
Rh negative blood is highly resistant to chikungunya carried by infected mosquitoes. Given that mosquitoes are the worlds most deadly killers accountable for some 725,000 deaths each year, then being Rh negative in areas of high mosquito populations might be a good thing
Mmmmmmmm, we have spuds tho… and stout… 😉
Lol, for sure 😉
And a certain other beverage that shall not be named – but possibly consumed this weekend 🙂
Alas poor Justin…:-)
@dignity unboxed! 😉
Morning All.
Just wanted to ask Warren. If we already have the funds kicking about to help out our own planet who do I need to apply to to get the money for a copy of kingdom death Monster.
TPTB 😉
Regarding the negative rhesus bit…
Is the Baylonian, reptilian overlord genetic manipulation explanation the most reasonable one when Northern Ireland is ground zero for both rhesus negative blood AND gigantism, with gigantism being caused by inbreeding (Warren, last week iirc).
I would go for that inbreeding being the cause of negative rhesus blood, after all you dragged the royal family into the discussion and just look at history… royal families and inbreeding… need I say more 🙂
Half my message didn’t post.
I added to the above.
I’m so glad I became a backstager. Really enjoying the Sunday shows guys. Thanks
Nice show guys. Sumer was formed by what we believe were Asian migrants in 5000 BC long after other tribes already inhabbiting the area. The reason we know so much about the Sumerians is that we have a lot of Cuniform tablets from them. (If you think chicken scrawl handwriting is bad check out Cuniform yesh).
I agree with Justin in that we don’t know 100% of human DNA and genes from that long ago and the fact we still have an appendix shows this. Remember evolution doesn’t take the best approach it takes the easiest so if it is easier to destroy a negative/positive than convert energy that would probably be the easiest aproach.
If you want a cool conspiracy (and some cool historical knowledge) look up Peter Stuart Ney. Ney was Napoleons Cavalry commander at Waterloo and was executed by the king. However the firing squad was all men picked by him, he gave te order himself and he did not get the usual pistol to the head. His grave was dug up later and no body was found.
In America a year later a man named Peter (Ney’s fathers name) Stuart (Mothers Maiden Name) Ney arrived in America who claimed to be a French veteran and was a school teacher who travelled around never staying too long in one place. When he heard Napoleon had died he tried to kill himself by stabbing himself in the neck but didn’t die. When he died years later his last words were “I am Ney of France”. So the question is. How did Ney get out of France? Who helped him? Did he make a deal since he was the one who ordered the insane unsupportted charges at Waterloo which destroyed the French Cavalry? The Cavalry charge was different in that it was unsupported and unusual.
That is flipping fantastic, gonna have a read about this!!!!
I have read that Wellington knew that this was going to happen and turned a blind eye
After this person’s death the corpse did have wounds that matched Neys
Totalyy agree with you @warzan ! If we (as a species) weren’t so distracted we’d be terraforming Mars right now
Given the size of the human population and the length of time we have now been around there really should be more genetic mutations than there are. Well apart from colour and some simple gene changes there is buggar all really which is highly unusual
Hi guys, great show again.
Just one thing, Ben AoS is not Warhammer.
I thought people had got over this and had learned that they were two separate games.
To add to what Warren was saying about: that we are gene slaves of aliens.
We as a species have around 3700 fatal defects in our gene code. The next closest animal to us on fatal flaws has 70. Nothing evolved naturally can have 3700 fatal errors Also this kinda kills the theory that we are made by a perfect being/God. unless he was a jobs worth intern working late on Friday rushing to get out of the office to get to a music festival for the week end or English 🙂
Remember Humans aren’t supposed to live like this. We aren’t meant to farm that was an evolutionary accident. We didn’t just change habbitats or diets we changed our very evolutionary cycle. We developed the ability to reason (although taxes are still seen as ok so we still have a bit to go) we can formulate insane ideas like a screwdriver or I-Pad. When you go from eating berries and clubbing women over the head to ordering a pizza and using Tinder a few defects can be expected.
We didn’t evolve naturally (Well you know what I mean) we forced our bodies to cope and now we have a high fat/sugar diet I expect radical change again. Also since we evolve to protect ourselves humans will one day taste sugar like we taste garlic or tree bark since our body will identify a risk.
Remember evolution isn’t always slow. If you introduce a predator into a clueless prey environment the prey will learn to fear it after it kills them but if those that survive breed and have have their offspring removed with no chance to communicate they will instinctually know to fear that predator. All species can force radical change in our offspring and their offspring without direct communication or teaching. Some scientists think this accounts for some of our fatal flaws since our bodies have all this junk info from Millenia of fear and biological education and since this is designed to manipulate the release of chemicals in the brain to indicate fear it can potentially be problematic.
Appologies for butchering that I’m more of a Historian than a Biologist or Chemist but I find the topic of evolutionary R and K types fascinating.
***Tangents Alert***
Remember we still haven’t peaked yet and so can’t judge our evolutionary position. We may end up relying on what we today call fatal flaws in 100,000 years when we’re living on other planets and need to absorb more radiation to sucessfully mutate cells so they can replicate and differ. (Unless we want a whole planet of Justin’s although this can help explain the infinite universe theory the guys talked about a few weeks ago)
Rimmer World – only worse 😉
I still say the best analogue for humanity I read was along the lines of this:
Able to endure staggering amounts of damage, up to & including the loss of bodyparts. Have developed a variety of prosthesis to aid those who need them. Able to adapt to almost any environment that permits the possibility of life. Willing to throw themselves into insane danger for fun. Includes individuals who will modify their bodies for purely aesthetic reasons. Shows a predilection for intercine warfare that is used to jumpstart technological development.
We’re bloody Orks….
@warzan, of course you get the Rh-Blood type system in other species. At least in rhesus monkeys, where it first was discovered.
Also, if I remember correctly from my biology classes twenty years ago, the Rh- mother / Rh+ child problems arise only during the second pregnancy with such a pair. In any case, the child is not killed as you suggested, but the mother receives treatment to cope with the antibodies produced.
Finally, if you get a spike in giantism its just as likely to get a spike in Rh-, since you already explained that the gene pool is rather small and does not mix a lot. From an evolutionary standpoint the Rh-blood system is older that only in humans and there is no reason for the Rh- to die out (but only to get a minority of the population), since only the second pregnancy causes problems and the first child will have both the Rh+ and the Rh- genome. so it is there to be given to the next generation.
V. Interesting
I wonder if you find it in Pig’s and Chimpanzees 🙂
Happy Sunday, I am with Justin so that makes three of us apparently.
We could speed up the e-paper development with that money.
Well, as much as I conflate alien/reptilian/God blood with ‘crackpot ideas’, it at least encouraged me to do some researching. 🙂
Couldn’t find much in a 5 minute Google search, but
http://www.hitxp.com/articles/science-technology/rh-negative-blood-group-alien-origin/
http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask381
Don’t ever change guys, it’s far too entertaining for a Sunday morning 😀
Regarding rhesus negative. My wife is rhesus negative, I am rhesus positive. The baby ended up been rhesus positive so it’s not an alien baby. If there was a bleed between the baby in the womb and the mother then she would have made antibodies and in some cases this could lead to a miscarriage. On the first baby the the risk is not as high. It’s the second baby where the risk is higher because the antibodies have been established. (Only if it’s positive and not negative)
The risks are not very high as there are an number of things that have to be in place for her body to attack the fetus. Although there is an “Anti D” injection that she is required to take to prevent this from happening.
On another note rhesus negative is known as the universal downer. This means that their blood can be given to anybody else that requires it. The down side is that the only blood you can receive is rhesus negative. Also certain rare types of Rhesus negative can be given to babies as well.
@dignity
Beyond the simple survival reason, we are after all on a single rock one random catastrophe way from extinction, space exploration has delivered more technology to solve issues we have and make life better than you realise, here is a small list from NASA, but if you really look its just the tip of the iceberg, https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html .
All there technologies come from solving issues we face from going to space and more will be found and more solutions will be created that will inevitably be brought back on the global population.
@warzan
It is a countries responsibility, yes, corruption, greed etr limit our budget for exploration, but no corporation is rich enouph (let alone willing) to tackle the risk and expense of space exploration (or any public infrastructure really), I do believe though that our biggest issue with space exploration is how reluctant is the western world to accept deaths, especially on the space exploration front, that and of course that the Space exploration fights for funds with everything else.
I’m quite pleased to hear about the Harry Potter miniatures game. My wife is absolutely HP obsessed with HP. She’s a big board gamer but I’ve never had any success in convincing her to try wargames.
When I showed her this, it piqued her interest and I think this will finally let me show her the awesomeness of wargaming.
I’ve already started looking at how to build a table for the game but I’m waiting to see what kind of game they go for. Obviously if it’s a boardgame, terrain is pointless…
Rhesus! That’s monkeys innit ? A pint? That’s nearly an arm full! – AA Hancock.
Wish I could give you more thumbs up
@Warren you misunderstand evolution. While traits that have a positive survival advantage are selected by the environmental pressures, traits that have no positive or negative survival impact are selected for by other pressures.
Without doing my own research if what you say is true in that a rhesus negative other rejects a rhesus positive foetus then rhesus negative is self selecting by the reproductive process I.e. Rhesus negative mothers van only carry rhesus negative foetuses full term. Hence a localised risen incidence.
Sumer was the first urban civilization in the historical region of southern Mesopotamia, modern-day southern Iraq, during the Chalcolithic and Early Bronze ages, and arguably the first civilization in the world with Ancient Egypt. Living along the valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates (Mesopotamia is Greek for the land between two rivers), Sumerian farmers were able to grow an abundance of grain and other crops, the surplus of which enabled them to settle in one place.
Proto-writing in the prehistory dates back to c. 3000 BC. The earliest texts come from the cities of Uruk and Jemdet Nasr and date back to 3300 BC; early cuneiform writing emerged in 3000 BC.
Modern historians have suggested that Sumer was first permanently settled between c. 5500 and 4000 BC by a West Asian people who spoke the Sumerian language (pointing to the names of cities, rivers, basic occupations, etc., as evidence), an agglutinative language isolate.
These conjectured, prehistoric people are now called “proto-Euphrateans” or “Ubaidians”, and are theorized to have evolved from the Samarra culture of northern Mesopotamia ). The Ubaidians (though never mentioned by the Sumerians themselves) are assumed by modern-day scholars to have been the first civilizing force in Sumer, draining the marshes for agriculture, developing trade, and establishing industries, including weaving, leatherwork, metalwork, masonry, and pottery.
Reliable historical records begin much later; there are none in Sumer of any kind that have been dated before Enmebaragesi (c. 26th century BC). The Sumerians were settled along the coast of Eastern Arabia, today’s Persian Gulf region, before it flooded at the end of the Ice Age. (May be the origins of the flood myth i.e Noah)
Sumerian civilization took form in the Uruk period (4th millennium BC), continuing into the Jemdet Nasr and Early Dynastic periods. During the 3rd millennium BC, a close cultural symbiosis developed between the Sumerians, who spoke a language isolate, and Akkadian-speakers, which included widespread bilingualism. Sumerian culture seems to have appeared as a fully formed civilization, with no pre-history.
The influence of Sumerian on Akkadian (and vice versa) is evident in all areas, from lexical borrowing on a massive scale, to syntactic, morphological, and phonological convergence. This has prompted scholars to refer to Sumerian and Akkadian in the 3rd millennium BC as a Sprachbund.[14] Sumer was conquered by the Semitic-speaking kings of the Akkadian Empire around 2270 BC (short chronology), but Sumerian continued as a sacred language.
Native Sumerian rule re-emerged for about a century in the Neo-Sumerian Empire or Third Dynasty of Ur (Sumerian Renaissance) approximately 2100-2000 BC, but the Akkadian language also remained in use. The Sumerian city of Eridu, on the coast of the Persian Gulf, is considered to have been the world’s first city, where three separate cultures may have fused — that of peasant Ubaidian farmers, living in mud-brick huts and practicing irrigation; that of mobile nomadic Semitic pastoralists living in black tents and following herds of sheep and goats; and that of fisher folk, living in reed huts in the marshlands, who may have been the ancestors of the Sumerians
Although hurry Potter holds no interest for me personally it’s potential to bring a younger generation into miniature wargaming is huge
Poor Justin, for reasons that remain a mystery he indulges that ridiculous attempt at a scientific anecdote about blood from warzan, only to be obliterated when he tries to make a Harry Potter joke followed by the indignity of having his head stroked by warzan on close-cam. Thinking about buying a year’s backstage to fund his therapy!
I think Justin understands evolution better than Warren. When he is right he’s right.
The Kingdom Death miniatures are so great looking. Nice paint jobs, beautifully done. Warren as far as the reeses negative and Ireland being given a hot spot it kind of makes sense. Let’s say that the negative aspect was a natural mutation that first occurred 8000 years ago. Ireland being isolated would have had the affect of over time amplifying or enhancing the mutation. Because of Ireland’s isolation and lack of new blood any mutation would just be amplified over time, like blue eyes in certain parts of the world.
Happy Sunday! And I, for one, welcome our Lizard Men/Alien Overlords :p
Loved the alien conversation today, guys! I have to say, it explains so much! I don’t want to alarm anyone, but you should know that I’m A negative. I had to get the Rhogam shots with my pregnancies to ensure my system wouldn’t attack my little ones! What other possible explanation could it be? I LOVE Northern Ireland… And then there’s the matter of my 5 wisdom teeth… or my obsession with the old tv series V… 😉
harry potter miniatures game needs to play to its strengths. a standard skirmish game will miss a lot of what make the magical world of harry potter the global phenomenon it is.
it simply must must appeal to the child in all of us. so Hogwarts, diagon alley, magical sweet shops, childish joke spells and simple shenanigans and all the rest needs to be there our you will lose that core aspect of the world. I know it has a darker side and that should also be present but without the wonder and magic viewed through young eyes of a child it will miss the mark.
the darkness in that grows as the books progress gives them weight and its only when you lose some of the most beloved characters that the emotion of the story kicks in. the battle for Hogwarts had me wanting to charge into the book I was so emotionally invested in the characters. the second key point I think is narrative narrative narrative. can’t have potter with out character development or story. lets not forget the strong who done it aspect to the books also.
with an IP like potter , Tolkien or STAR WARS you have a narrative and world that has captured the hearts of millions and if you don’t tap into that and capture its essence you my as well have written your own cheap knock off. you know the sort of bland generic thing we get as a rule in our industry. don’t get me wrong a lot of it is a frame work to tell our own stories and that has advantages of its own. But if you are going to do Potter lets see it done the right way and not just an excuse to cash in with something ok.
so narrative board game dungeon crawler with skirmish option like imperial assault that lets you play as yourself and as the heroes. if there going to cover the widest possible audience then it is likely to be single piece plastics but I would like to see some resins or metal collectors options to not exclude the painters and the purists, depending on the art direction.
so in summery, give us a job knight models I got you covered.
Chris’s kingdom death monster looks amazing.
Lots of laughs to start my morning!
But hey @warzan, this guy has been saying it along: its all about aliens!
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_A._Tsoukalos
@brennon , really love your minis! You should do a sort of painting tutorial on those…
Harry Potter minis: it could be interesting, depending on what they do with it but, a sort of “Hogwart’s crawl” game would make sense… anyway, once the miniatures are out, we can do a sort of game like that anyway if they go the Knight Model games type…
Good show again , ok now for the resus negatif blood thing that comes frome Reptilian i would say it is totally possible but if you look at the human genetic we are mutch closer from Pig that we are from monkey and it as been proven, now if you look at the Egyptian Hyerogliph you can see a lot of human boddy with animal faces so what i think is some extraterrestriel as made some experience on animal so we get some of there genes + terestrial genes then we become the human race !! , ok for that now on the GW game i love there Space Marine and other army also i have bought a lot of stuff from them that i have never played like the Warhammer 40K i have 3 differents starter box cause i wanted to start playing but sometime there is to many option for a new player if you take for exemple Burning Prospero and the Betrayal at calth i have bought the 2 games and i am playing with some proxy right now cause i am not sure of my weapon choice for the Marine so i want them to have one weapon of each kind , but in the game is it going to be playable in 40 K ? also i would love to try KillTeam game cause i prefer skirmish size game so how can i built my space marine to be able to have great fun with Killteam having the right weapon per guy …… again i am not sure so the meta for GW is not an easy thing to grab it could be more easy on new player , the stuff of GW is more easy to find where i live (Quebec Canada) but the guy to play with are more difficult to find ???? and don’t get me wrong here i have found 40K player but they are really ….how can i say that in english , ….. they just want to keep playing with their group just cause they don’t want some newbe that will come with weird idea to try for their 40 world for exemple i would love to play Space woulf beside Dark Angel and blood Angel against Orks they are all Space marine so i can not see why a Space marine faction would not fight hand to hand with another Faction of Space marine against a mutuel army that want to destroy the Human race ?? and thast why i am playing more of the other game that are difficul to find here than 40K
Good afternoon everyone,
For the past couple of shows, I have noticed that you guys have been constantly talking about Warhammer, whether it’s Age of Sigmar or 40K. I guess this is very good for the gamers that enjoyed and play this universe. But what about the rest of the gamers that do not play any of these games?
I really love the different interviews that you guys do.I also enjoyed when Warren and Ben are discussing what’s new in the gaming world. What I love about these topics is that we all can see what’s going on with our favorite game systems, or we can see if a new miniatures game catches our fancy.
By all means I’m not criticizing Games Workshops products, or anything. I’m just wondering why their particular products get more spotlight? In the end, I’m just curious. That’s all. Once again, I hope that nobody feels offended by my argument. Have a great weekend!
There are a couple of reasons why I am looking forward to the Harry Potter thing.
First, always wanted to paint a Voldemort and Hagrid They are interesting characters visually that would make good models.
Second, its such a popular world, even now, and arguably, assuming the new film is half decent, it is all going to become even more popular in the next few months. It is a great vehicle for bring new people into the hobby.
You should make ” @warzan talks science (and politics) ” a regular feature of the show. Very entertaining. 🙂
My thoughts also went to V during that discussion.
Nice to see another Kingdom Death feature. I’m growing more excited for the game and approaching kickstarter each week.
Happy Sunday 🙂
I agree with Justin too so its 3 of us now 😀 happy sunday !
Whenever anyone talks about us as a species on this planet I always think of that scene in The Matrix where Agent Smith is interrogating Morpheus and describes the human race as being not unlike a virus. And I have a tendency to agree with his logic.
So as for spending money on discovering ‘what’s out there’ maybe we should be doing more to address the issues on this world as Justin said. And I know Warren thinks its not a lot of money, but try telling that to the starving millions around the world who are dying every single day.
If not, then maybe this planet’s only chance is a meteor of extinction proportions. Someone needs to hit the reset button. We had our chance and we failed. Nature wins in the end.
I still can’t quite believe my humble painting efforts made it into the Community Spotlight. I’ve had a thoroughly rubbish week, but that’s put a massive smile back on my face. 🙂
a great XLBS guys you just love to make @dignity squirm @warzan
@zorg that’s half the fun 🙂
Lol I bet you get him back just as much.
from some thing I readed evolution is pretty lazy while thing we need to to surive come to the forefront the less desired late go to the back but done disappear
On one hand, I am loving the Kingdom Death coverage. On the other, I really hate you guys because every video makes me want to play Kingdom Death more and I can’t until I manage to find a copy. gaaaaah
@warzan Is this a new segment on the show then? “Science-mangle-bollocks-talk” I never know if you guys are serious, or putting on a good show!
@doctorether has an amazing talent for painting Kingdom Death.
Maybe aliens didn’t want a slave race. Maybe they saw a species having serious long time trouble recovering from a near extinction millennia before and decided to help them out. OMG HAX.
http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/10/22/163397584/how-human-beings-almost-vanished-from-earth-in-70-000-b-c
Hey guys thanks for the shout out. If I recall correctly, the article I sent you Warren went on to say the reason for the population of that blood group here is that such individuals act as super soldier material for the aliens to use in a hybridisation program. Which conjures the amazing image of an army of sci-fi warriors with Norn Iron accents.
Justin, if you’re interested in Japanese ghosts and goblins I’d recommend the Yurei Survival Guide and Kwaidan. I’d also suggest looking up some of the ukiyo-e by an artist Utagawa Kuniyoshi. I’ll prepare a better list when I’m less sleep deprived.
For the record, I will be back for good come next March / April, looking forward to some games.
Also, check out the rpg that is heavily focused on these types of ghosts.
http://cubicle7.co.uk/our-games/kuro/
I play Age of Sigmar, and I ONLY pick my army based on the look of the miniatures. In fact it’s why I was drawn to the game. The minis are so beautiful.
The blood theory is right. The Tohaa did it. We were one of the first races they wanted to make slaves. But we turned out to be to violent.
I’m so glad I tuned in (as if I wouldn’t! :P) this information on Rhesus negative and positive blood types, this is pretty darn useful information.
Of course I had to read about “D antigen” and just… wow, learn something new everyday.
I feel like I will need to use this knowledge one to day lead the rhesus humans against our alien overlords! How dare they!
Awesome show like always. I’m glad Sam is coming back !!!! yay.
Kingdom Death, Phew, man every time I see something about it I wanna kill myself for missing that kickstarter. 🙁
I love those minis, everything about the game and now it’s just way too damn expensive.
Warren and Justin; both of you are right, we are supposed to get things right here and look into space exploration. But big corporations got us held by the b@@ls and are squeezing us to get their pockets full of cash.
It’s being like that for generations.
Brother G
Was away gaming this weekend so am only just catching up with the latest episode of Pseudo-Science with Warren lol.
http://www.hitxp.com/articles/science-technology/rh-negative-blood-group-alien-origin/
Bears. They are godless killing machines. They. Will. Kill. You.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWXnbdlG_Ts
Speaking of Age of Sigmar and it’s lack of an elevator pitch, @warzan , some smart fella wrote this in the forums a few months ago…
“None of which is to say there’s anything wrong with the AoS setting. Like you suggest, reading all the books could easily establish it as a rich setting, but it does make it harder than those other games to get a handle on what is going on when you look at it from the outside. In many ways, it comes down to how well it can be condensed into an elevator pitch and still convey the setting.”
It’s like you read my mind, Warren. A well designed game will avoid situations in which certain builds dominate, and most everything else isn’t worth taking if you want to be competitive. There’ll always be some units which are redundant, that’s impossible to avoid, but a well designed game will allow for lots of different builds to be competitive, and allow for a dynamic meta.
Rant incoming:
I’m quite pissed about this article and you should be ashamed for making it the way you did. You named the article “weekender-xlbs-kingdom-death-painting”, you asked for BackStage pass in order to get to it (which made me create an account, set a paypal subscription and such), and the only thing here is an hour and a half video that ROUGHLY has 20 minutes where you talk about KD:M, and there’s no paiting KD:M whatsoever.
What you have is your friend showing the figures, telling us what you need to play the game (which as this point every KD:M player knows), and talking A BIT about how he practiced a lot with the skin tones.
¡Shame on you!
I didn’t expect this kind of clickbait from BoW and I’m quite dissapointed with you. As a long time Infinity player I love all the work you do with them, and I respect all the work you do with other wargames, but what you did this time with KD:M is a huge pile of nothing.
Good day, sirs.
To be fair the show is titled ‘Talking’ Kingdom death painting, but do not get to angry just yet we have painting tutorials on it too here for backstagers:
http://www.beastsofwar.com/3-colors-up/3-colours-chinese-skin-tone/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/3-colours-blue-alien-part2/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/3-colours-up-blue-alien-part1/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/3-colours-tips-painting-whitegrey-hair/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-middle-eastern-skin-part-2/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-middle-eastern-skin-part/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-paint-african-skin-part-2/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-paint-african-skin-part/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-paint-japanese-skin-part-4/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-paint-japanese-skin-part-2/
http://www.beastsofwar.com/backstage/skin-tone-tutorials-paint-japanese-skin-part/
Also check out the KDM Hub as we are adding alot to it over the coming weeks 🙂
http://www.beastsofwar.com/kingdom-death/
First of all, I tried to be quite precise about how my rant was focused on this article only. I know all the work you have done this far and I’ve been a follower of your site for quite some time (and I expect to continue visiting it for the great content you usually produce), but I really think you should be honest with yourselves and admit that either the video or the web article or even both are REALLY badly named, either on purpose or by mistake.
Second of all, I’m not angry. I’m dissapointed, which is quite different. I didn’t expect something like this after all the good work you have done this far (and I’m sure you’ll keep doing).
Third and last, thanks for the links. I can see how some of them are KD:M related, seeing as how some of them are done with KD:M miniatures, and your KD:M hub looks promising.
Have a nice day.
@khayloth
I appreciate this is probably a bit too late now, but BoW do offer a free seven day trial of backstage so that people can try out the content before deciding whether it’s for them 🙂
Hi @redben
Thanks for the tip, although it did come a little too late XD. I got on the free trial in order to check this, but as I have told BoW via email, I think the BackStage pass is not suitable for me.
I’m quite a focused gamer and from all the content in BoW I’m only interested in Infinity and KD:M, and I don’t think I would get my money’s worth, although I’m sure there are a lot of BoW followers that could benefit greatly from it 🙂
To be fair that’s why the trial is 7 days long and not an hour and thirty minutes 🙂
So you can explore the probably 1000 pieces of content in backstage 🙂
I think if you look at a lot of my posts in What Are You Painting Now, you will find a lot of the WIP progress to finished model shots for the models that we went through. Coupled with Romain’s excellent tutorials there is a lot there to show the entire process. For instance you will find all the shots from start to finish on the Flower Knight, and the Dragon King, and the starting survivors.
Also perhaps easier is to have all the photos in one place https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/0Cbb3
I finished off watching the Weekender and commented on all the kickstarters I’ve backed and privately lamenting all the painting done and yet to start when you show off that beautiful Kingdom Death stuff and more Konflikt ’47 stuff on it’s way! I may have to learn this greyscale technique of which Warren speaks!
Please – no more kickstarters with beautiful miniatures for a while. Unless they are mythological Celts, or Egyptians, Chinese or maybe Japanese……
@warzan, From a brief bit of research, one theory is that Rhesus negative (Rh-) was the dominant type in Homo Erectus and early Homo Sapiens, Rh+ is believed to have been beneficial for combating certain diseases and so developed later. It should have completely taken over, eradicating Rh-, but due to Humans self imposed segregation in different parts of the world and the resultant inbreeding due to that, it has persisted to modern times.
Can’t wait to watch the rest of the kingdom death lantern years great stuff.
with regards to my comment that you talked about, what Ben said is fairly accurate, there is a lot down to as well, what i would enjoy painting and modelling, as someone who doesnt get much chance at the moment to game, the hobby side of things is the biggest part at the moment.. But i do agree with you Warren, if a unit is really good, but the model is crap, using a proxy is a good option, its just then the job of finding a model that a) you like, and b) suits the unit type that you are using it for.
the only time using a proxy wouldnt be a viable option, in my opinion would be in historical games
overall it depends on the type of gamer you are i think. There are some gamers that like to deploy all the powerful units, whereas there are other gamers, that just like to use things that look cool (and then, theres people like me who are in between).
11 minutes into this XLBS and I’m remembering the days you guys used to talk about miniature games…
😉
About the look of games……
You can indeed always proxy models, just let your oponent know in advance wich is wich troop.
A lot of Warhammer fantasy player’s have proxied Spacewolf riders as Demi Gryph knights.
Works good but with different themed models.