Reply To: Serious and honest question here…

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To me issue is three fold. For one they are every were and they are shown as default chapter. Yes I know why this is case. GW has huge amount of Ultramarines painted back in day to show entire company. Then there is Ultramarines worship that @greyhunter88 mentioned. Whole idea that they are best chapter and that some how ever other chapter wishes that they would be Ultramarines. When you raise single chapter to that pedestal you are sure to get people dislike them. And finally there is fact that they are boring and so generic. In game this is presented by them being jacks-of-all-trades but masters of none. While that raises them above Imperial Fists and Iron Hands in 9th edition as far as viability goes they are still less viable than more mobile chapters like Raven Guard and White Scars or Salamanders that are really good in 9th edition. Not to mention melee combat monster chapters that are Blood Angels and Space Wolves. Now you might take it as personal attack but it’s not meant to be that way. I have n issue with people that play them. Just with Ultramarines getting treated special by GW.