Don’t Go Into Brother Vinni’s Mummy’s Tomb Lady!
April 6, 2015 by brennon
Brother Vinni have added another miniature 'set' to their range of Victim Girls. This latest piece is the Girl & Mummy where the overlord of whatever pyramid you might have stumbled into has taken a hostage and no doubt seeks to sacrifice her...
Despite the whole 'victim girl' thing I think this could be quite a cool looking miniature to use within an objective based skirmish game that you're playing out in a fantasy of pulpy world on the tabletop.
The Mummy has stolen a woman from the local town/city and is bringing her back to his tomb to sacrifice to the Gods so that he can be reborn once again with more power than you can imagine. It's your job as heroes to race after him, defeating his minions as you go, and then stop him from performing the ritual.
Would you play out that scenario?
"I think this could be quite a cool looking miniature to use within an objective based skirmish game that you're playing out in a fantasy of pulpy world on the tabletop..."
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This would have been a great little theme piece IF they had put more than just jewellery on her. Instead it is just trashy. 🙁
Brother Vinni has the most offensive female sculpts I’ve ever seen.
Yup, another one for the bedside curio.
Alongside that, they also have some very good* non pin-up female miniatures.
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Secretary/p/36415803/category=5965006
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Hooligan-Girl-02/p/25324802/category=5965006
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Iris/p/25324804/category=5965006
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Hilda/p/25324808/category=5965006
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Sorceress/p/25324809/category=5965006
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Corporal/p/47208378/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Specialist/p/43930055/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Medic/p/46428582/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Sergeant/p/39327495/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Ursula-fleet-officer/p/43369329/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Flamethrower/p/39327496/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-GrenadeThrower/p/39327498/category=9008390
http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Female-Troopers/p/39327499/category=9008390
On top of this, they have a number of decent female heads conversion parts. Far from being the den of laciviousness, I’d say they are more of a mixed bag. What lets them down in my opinion is that they don’t separate their pinups from everything else, meaning when you look at “Action Girls” as a category, roughly 50% of them are topless – which is frustrating. Even the “Female Brigade” has it’s share of nudity. But the ones that aren’t nude are actually pretty good – I’d certainly use them in either cyberpunk or even a 40k RPG to represent PCs
* Good is subjective and context dependent.
At first I thought that that is homage to old Universal horror classic but then I saw that that girl is wearing nothing. So it’s more pulp novel inspired than old movie inspired.
quite like the mummys face could be nice character on its own maybe switch out the arms for weapons or claws
very hammer house.
One is left to wonder why the woman in question is naked (unless one counts some jewlery)? Why would a mummified, reanimated corpse bother to remove the clothing of his kidnap victim? The time taken would certainly put a crimp in any plan of escape from any possible pursuers, which is doubly problematic for one of the slowest of all the classic monsters who would probably find a footrace with your average zombie to be a close run thing. It also seems doubtful that a Mummy would have much in the way of appreciation for the female form, so it is not as though an evil life-drawing class is on the cards.
It also hardly seems like a high priority in advance of your run of the mill sacrificial ritual, unless this ritual conveniently requires nudity to work because… umm… modern fibres block magic…? Yeah, that’ll do. Its as good as any other transparently self serving rationalisation.
It just doesn’t have any justification from the scenario depicted – it is objectifying nudity for its own sake.
And then to compound the needless nudity with actually going so far as to call the range ‘victim girls’. Wargaming already has an image problem in some quarters, and stuff like this is really doing nothing to help.
Then again, maybe we are being unfair to this undead Egyptian nobleman. Maybe he was simply minding his buisiness in his pyramid, maybe repairing and upgrading a few of his tomb-robber eviscerating traps (home security is important to the undead), when he stumbled upon an unconscious naked lady. Now he is desperately looking for someone to help, and having spied some people who might be able to render assistance, is approaching carrying the unfortunate woman, and is now demanding that the bystanders stop gawping like sexist twits and/or running away and screaming (people are so prejudiced against the living-impaired these days) and provide her with some clothing. He would use his own badages, but then he would fall apart, and that wouldn’t help anyone.
Just because someone is a Mummy, don’t assume they are also a misogynist hell bent on human sacrifice. We are suppsoed to be better than that these days, you know… 😉
Its good to see images representig real aspects of the hobby and those that game, rather than stereotypical semi porn miniatures.
Warning… hazardous levels of sarcasm detected… containment protocols have failed… humorous mockery of misogyny in minature form is imminent… 😉
I still struggle to understand what so many people find offensive about nudity, it is just the human form in one medium of art.
When these people go to a museum do they complain about the nudity there too?
Nudity in and of itself is not a problem, but nudity that functions to objectify and/or denigrate women is. Remember that this is a sculpt of a naked woman almost certainly sculpted by a man and intended for consumption by a hobby fanbase mostly consisting of men, as are the vast majority of other such sculpts. That is a problem because it eliminates the agency of women from the equation entirely, and that problematic character is redoubled when combined with the ‘victim girls’ title of the range, which hammers home the point that these are sculpts of disempowered women as passive set dressing, rather than characers in their own right.
If this sculpt was a one off, it would be tasteless but that is all. But this is not a one off, it is part of an entire range of models, many of which depict naked women in positions of submission, or being in some fashion abused or mistreated. Such a volume of imagery that all replicates the same toxic tropes starts to look like something more than a tone deaf attitude on the part of an individual sculptor, and more like a misogynistic attitude toward women that exists within the heart of this company. Add in a broader social context that already habitually treats women’s bodies as commodities and it is not difficult to see why sculpts like this are troubling.
The opposition toward this kind of thing is not motivated by some banal prudishness, but rather by a desire to see an actual range of depictions of women in this medium, including images of capable, proactive women who are not objectified. Unfortunately, as the situation stands, what we get instead is the huge majority of female sculpts being reduced down to simply different degrees of sexualised scenary peice, with the spectrum ranging from Infinity and its female models mostly in skin-tight body suits and rocking combat high heels, through to Brother Vinni and their depictions of naked, overtly victimised women.
As for your comparison to art, the art world has many depictions of women, including famous nudes, but critically classic artistic depictions of women are not overwhelmingly dominated by sexualised imagery of women, with the nudes being explicitly or implictly sexualised nudes. Rather the nudes are specifically intended to function as art first, with titillation being at most an unintended side effect. The same cannot honestly be said of the wargaming minature industry as it stands. The comparison is based upon a false equivilancy.
I might be more open to the “objectification of women” argument if it wasn’t because women willingly – and often with a nice profit, I might ad – plays into this themselves.
Kim Kardashian, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Rihanna… The list is long…
The simple fact is that sex sells. It titillates. It attracts males. And seeing as this hobby is dominated by males… Well… No wonder then, that women are often depicted in an overtly sexualized manner.
That goes, for example, also for comics. Ahh… All those curvy super heroins in spandex so thin that they might nearly be naked… Well… Once again, sex sells.
It’s funny though… The men wear the same impossibly form-fitting spandex and sport abnormally big muscles and… Ummm… A certain… “Bulge”… And yet, I see no complaints about that. Nor about near-naked (or fully naked, in some cases) male figures on the tabletop.
The list is short for male sexual exploitation in the miniatures industry. Surely you can’t be attempting to draw a parallel between the tasteful, artistic depiction of the female human form with a miniature of a pointlessly naked woman being schlepped around by a less-than-mummy mummy.
Profiteering from this sort of trailer park imagery will only go away if people don’t buy into it, which obviously isn’t going to happen any time soon. The teens at least will likely pee a bit when they order one.
@vetruviangeek @cpauls1 Couldn’t agree more, this kind of stuff has no place at all in the hobby and it’s only right that people should speak up against it. This isn’t a celebration of the female form just a cheap excuse for some pewter boobies!
Good form chaps, good form 🙂
@nicklaus obviously it does have a place, or they wouldn’t sell and consequently no-one would make them. A more accurate statement would be “they don’t have universal appeal in this hobby”
“Tasteful”is highly subjective.
@onlyonepinman are we not just arguing over semantics at that point? Would it be more acceptable for me to say;
I personally don’t see the place for this in the hobby, I find it entirely distasteful and I can’t see any sensible reason why they chose to sculp the women without clothes. I also sincerely doubt that if a similar model was made depicting a man in such a situation he would be inexplicably naked.
All of this is merely my opinion of course 🙂
I think everything this model does could be achieved if the young lady depicted was wearing clothes, some clothes, any clothes. Nothing at all against nudity but I don’t see a reason for it in this case
Not quite everything. It wouldn’t be a pinup miniature, which is what I think they’re going for.
Perhaps, but ‘pinup’ doesn’t immediately imply ‘naked’, many of the best pinup miniatures I’ve ever seen were clad and not even especially scantily. It’s easily possible to be sexy without being naked.
I agree entirely @cpauls1 – there is nothing tastesful or artistic about this sculpt, and comparisons to fine art are unfounded. Also, you said what I tried to say in my unweildy wall o’ text in a annoyingly more succinct and to the point fashion. So I simultaneously applaud you, while also envying your ability to actually say what you mean promptly and without acting as the world’s most potent non-chemical anaesthetic… 😉
I also share many of @nicklaus opinions on the matter – leaving aside the whole ‘victim girl’ thing for a moment, the core concept of the miniature – of a Mummy abducting a woman for some nefarious purpose – would in no way be compromised if that woman was sculpted with actual clothing. Having her be naked adds precisely nothing to the mini whatsoever, which implies that something other than the designer’s/scultpor’s artistic vision lies behind this decison on the part of the creators. While @warworksdk is undoubtably right that sex sells, it does so as the lowest common denominator, and I would hope that wargaming could and should be better than that. The industry has plenty to recommend it, it doesn’t need to treat women like disposeable sex objects to turn a buck.
That’s not entirely true though is it? What if I want to buy models that depict heavily sexualized or naked men, in a series of ‘raunchy’ poses? Or a ‘victim guys’ series? I’m not seeing an awful lot along those lines
“Trailer park imagery”?
I think you’re showing your bias here…
Remember that, as with nearly all things, it’s highly subjective. I, for one, wouldn’t want that sort of models to go away because 1) I like looking at them and 2) Brother Vinnie has every right to make such models.
And what’s “tasteful” about, for example, the way females are depicted in various superhero comics? They’re obviously sexualized there to, so do you want to make them go away as well?
If you ask me, many of the old paintings (which, I’m told, are considered classics and thus it’s okay to show naked women) are every bit as pointless as this model.
I don’t think I need to elaborate on my position if you’re using comics in your argument, and in the process, comparing them to “old paintings,” as you so eloquently describe them.
The thing is @warworksdk, it is not nudity that makes an image objectifying, but agency, or rather its lack – a woman who freely chooses to present herself in a sexualised or titillating fashion or context is expressing herself as is her right. The women you list certainly trade upon their appearance as part of their careers, but no one is doing it to them (well, there are question marks over how truly free some of them were in their choices in their early careers, but for the most part they seem to be making their own decisions for their own reasons). That is very different from an image of female nudity created by a man and primarily intended for consumption by a majority male audience, where there is no aspect of female agency represented.
The one thing that is consistent across both those scenarios is the broader social context, and that context is one of the obvious commodification of women’s bodies in a fashion that minimses the humanity of women in pursuit of the exact kind of ‘sex sells’ mentality you describe. Even where a woman chooses to publically express her own sexuality for her own reasons, that context still exists, and can still cause problems not because of what she has chosen freely to do, but because of how others may interpret that act, both in regard to what they (almost certainly unfairly) think it says about her as an individual, and what pervasive attitudes it may help to unintentionally reinforce about women as a group (also entirely unfairly). It is completely unreasonable to expect women to curtail their expression because of harmful attitudes held in broader society, rather it is those attitudes that must change. Unfortunately, the myriad sexist images and mindsets to be found in popular culture – such as that embodied by this sculpt – serve to reinforce just such harmful attitudes. That is why it matters, and why a stand should be taken against this kind of sexism wherever it appears.
Also, when drawing comparisons between, say, the images seen in comic books with spandex-clad characters, one cannot simply ignore the established social power gradients with our society. Attitudes surrounding sexual images of men and those pertaining to women are very different – in its simplest expression, all too many people are quick to habitually render women down to their notional basic sex appeal, and it is this attribute that is held in esteem above any of their actual educational qualifiactions or other life acheivements. The same is not true of society’s attitude toward men.
Then there is also the point that it is not just the apparel, but also the poses that convey the social coding in such an image; female comic book characters are usually depicted in a pose that emphasises things like their breasts. As an example, consider the infamous ‘butt & boob’ twist, where both a character’s breasts and buttocks are simultaneously toward the viewer’s point of view. Such a pose would, to put it mildly, cause serious spinal trauma to anyone who actually attempted it, especuially on a regular basis. Oddly enough, male super hero characters are basically never depicted in such a pose. Why would that be the case, if there was no imperative to sexualise female characters in a fashion different to that of male characters? If you are prepared to brave a rather great degree of unintended but still toixic transphobia, then I would suggest that you take a look at the Hawkeye Initiative (check the end of this post for a link). That site shows very clearly the differing ways in which male and female comic book charcters are proportioned and posed, and how differnt the male characters would look if they were truly posed in the same way as the female ones.
http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/
I’ve seen the Hawkeye Initiative and seen it debunked. For every supposed sexual pose a female Iacter is drawn in you can find a male character posed in exactly the same way.
I’m not really into comic books in any way, shape or form so I can’t comment as to the frequency of poses accross different characters but the fact is comic book characters of both genders are drawn in poses that may be considered sexual and are also in such a way as to appear naked without actually being naked.
But here’s the thing. I’m not contesting that this figure depicts a sexualised woman. Nor am I contesting the victim status of the woman. I just don’t see either of these things as problems. I accept that adult themes exist in most forms of entertainment and I am fine with that. Some people like pinup art and punup pinup models. That’s fine, let them buy it. Some people don’t don’t like it, so let those people buy something else. There’s enough choice available at the moment that you should be able to find something you like without having to stop other people buying and enjoying the things that they like.
That’s not entirely true though is it? What if I want to buy models that depict heavily sexualized or naked men, in a series of ‘raunchy’ poses? Or a ‘victim guys’ series? I’m not seeing an awful lot along those lines
Ok, that was weird, my comments are multiplying
Firstly, are you genuinely searching for Raunchy M
Males or Male Victims? If you are I suspect that you arr in a very small minority which is why they don’t exist – the market isn’t big enough to make a return on them.
But look around
Sorry, don’t know why that last comment cut off.
Look around. We don’t see men in “Raunchy” poses. We see Playboy but we don’t see Playgirl – it was tried many years ago (80’s or 70’s I think) and it didn’t sell. Why would the niche that is the miniatures industry be any different to the adult publications industry? In terms of attitudes towards sexuality, it is a cross section of society so the same attitudes are likely to occur with the same frequency.
The frequency of the sexualised depictions of women in comic books set against those of men is illuminating though, @onlyonepinman. There are no shortage of entire comics out there were female characters are never posed in an entirely non-sexualised way.
I am not saying that men are never sexualised, or never sexually objectified – I am pointing out that the objectification of women in this fashiohn is vastly more widespread across multiple forms of media, and is considered far more socially acceptable. The playing field is not level, and so the same type of imagery applied to both men and women does not have the same effect, nor taps in to the same dominent social mores and trends.
I also agree that the Hawkeye Initiative is far from ideal, and as I noted earlier has dangerous undertones of transphobia, but if one bears its many failings in mind it still helps serve an illustrative purpose to demonstrate how unnatural many of the poses female characters are habitually depicted in really are, and how that is done to promote a sexualisation of those characters, rather than for any other purpose.
I would also point out that I have never demanded that people not be allowed to buy these types of sculpts, and neither I nor anyone else on this thread are about to start donning a set of jackboots and preparing to kick in the doors of either Brother Vinni or those gamers who do choose to purchase these kinds of minis. All those of us who are concerned about this are doing is setting out the reasons why such sexualised imagery in such things as this ‘victim girls’ range is problematic, and doing our (very small) part to seek to foster a debate that raises the consciousness of the wargaming public with regard to the sexist attitudes such imagery can help to reinforce. There is no threat here to anyone, or to any aesthetic preference a gamer might have, but we must be at least capable of having this discussion.
@nicklaus also makes a very good point – why are there so few mini ranges (I can’t think of any off the top of my head) that depict men in similarly raunchy and sexualised poses? Why are there no ‘victim guys’ ranges? Do you really think that is equitable? Something very specific is going on here in the depiction of women that goes beyond a simple ‘sex sells’ appeal to notional market dynamics.
The sexualisation of either gender is rife, but it’s more common to find sexualised women in products aimed at men, and vice versa
I’ve already pointed out that the reason you don’t see miniatures of men in sexualised poses is because there simply isn’t a market for it. Glamour Magazines aimed at women don’t sell unless they add additional, non sexual content which would imply a vastly different view of sex and what is sexy between men and women. The potential market for Male Pin-up sculpts is not big enough to make a return.
A shame that poor taste can’t be legislated, with the line between kitsch and crap clearly defined. Obviously it’s different for everyone, and is perhaps largely a function of age, and therefore, testosterone levels.
I don’t think it’s a function of age. I know lots of people of different ages with very different views on sex and sexuality.
Amen @vetruviangeek . Well played, sir.
Brother Vinni has quite a mixed range of models. Some of the female miniatures are actually very good non pin-up models. So they have quite a broad range of styles of female miniature, from the helpless victim through pinup to knights, mercenaries and fleet officers. Something for everyone you might say.
Not every miniatures company has to cater to your specific tastes and there are companies out there incorporating female miniatures into their ranges in non sexualised ways, if that’s what you want.
Mantic do it for both deadzone and kings of war. Not sure about dreadball, I don’t follow it, but it stands to reason that they would.
Corvus Belli do it and do so in high volumes and, again, in a range of styles. Some have combat heels, but then again, some don’t and there’s as many male models in body gloves as there are females. I wouldn’t say infinity produces sexualised models, it produces caricatured models (i.e. certain defining features are exaggerated).
So I would argue that you already have your wish – a range of female miniatures that includes capable, proactive women. It may not be present in EVERY range of miniatures but they do exist. (I deliberately left out the “not being objectified” because it’s the person that objectifies, not the miniature. Ultimately, no matter what you do, someone, somewhere will find it sexual).
But let’s, for argument’s sake, say that such a range of models does not exist and the only female models out there are sexualised pinups. If, hypothetically, someone came along and made such a range of miniatures (Raging Heroes?), would you then be happy for Kabuki, Brother Vinni et al, to resume making pin-ups? And if the answer to that is yes, why should they have to stop doing there thing just because the industry as a whole is not catering to your tastes? Pinup miniatures are a niche within a niche but they clearly meet someone’s needs because they are still making them – why should those people not be allowed what they want because you can’t have what you want.
And for the record, I would venture that the sculptors of pin-up miniatures probably consider it art. I think it’s fair to say that the sculptors of ALL miniatures are artists and I personally do consider the sculpting and painting of miniature figures to be a form of art.
I think it is a great design piece that would be awesome for an actual Ancient Egyptian time period. For a modern (IE 20th/21st century) setting the nudity is kind of pointless.
I think i’m in love. Don’t tell my wife. Then again she likes them too…
Technically the sculpt is quite good but I struggle to really see any use for it. It’s not good enough that someone might use it as a display piece (unlike some of the Kabuki models). It would look out of place in a Pulp game because of the nudity (think Rachel Weiss in the Mummy – no, with clothes on, like she had in the film). It would look out of place in an ancient game because of the mummy (Mummies as an element of horror are very much a modern idea, a Priest would have been more appropriate). At best it might serve in an RPG set in an ancient themed world, something like Conan perhaps, and even then only in a very specific scenario.
Normally I defend makers of pinups and nudes because I don’t see anything wrong with nudity but in this case, I think I’m going with the “No” crowd.
For a Brother Vinni sculpt, I’d almost consider it tactful. She’s naked, yes. She’s fairly… Ummm… Curvy, yes. But compared to some of his other sculpts this one doesn’t scream gratuitous nudity. Not as loudly, anyway…
Sure, it’s not Kabuki territory, but considering the price it’s not at all bad. I’m certainly tempted to buy one, simply to paint.
To clarify my previous post. I have nothing against the model itself, I just don’t see any real purpose to it. My (hypothetical) “No” vote was a “No, I won’t be buying” rather than “No, this model should not exist”.
…I’ll pass thanks