New Star Wars Trailers For Rise Of Skywalker & The Mandalorian
August 27, 2019 by brennon
You may have seen it by now but as we're big Star Wars fans here at OTT we thought it would be cool to hear your thoughts on the new trailers for Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker and The Mandalorian which dropped over the last few days.
The first trailer is for The Rise Of Skywalker which showed off a clash between Rey and Kylo on the poster with The Emperor looming in the background behind them, somewhat confirming what we learned from the first trailer which dropped for the movie.
The trailer takes us back through the history of Star Wars, introducing us to key moments from the story before giving us a glimpse of what's coming in December. There is quite an interesting twist shown towards the end of the trailer and it will be interesting to see just how that plays out.
For me, I'm just glad that we're seeing an end to this massive Skywalker saga and that the world of Star Wars will then be venturing forth into new territory. There have been rumblings of Knights Of The Old Republic over the past year or so and it would be great to see the Revan story explored.
Bounty Hunting Vibes
As well as the entry in the new trilogy there was also a cool trailer for The Mandalorian which will be hosted on Disney+.
This series follows on from the legendary bounty hunters like Jango & Boba Fett as a new Mandalorian starts doing some gunslinging. This series is going to be set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order during a lawless time in the galaxy. I cannot wait to see how they develop this, pushing the Wild West element of the Star Wars world that you see on the Outer Rim.
Obviously, this is coming to Disney+ and there's no full release date for this in the UK and Europe just yet but hopefully, it won't be that far away. I will admit that I am more interested in the Marvel TV shows but The Mandalorian does look like a fun caper which helps develop the world of Star Wars.
On the miniatures side of things, this should hopefully introduce more characters, vehicles, soldiers and more into the mix for Fantasy Flight Games' Star Wars: Legion!
What do you make of the new trailers?
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peed myself…………
may the water force be with you
Well…. the Mandalorian looks interesting but am I really interested enough to sign up for yet another streaming service?
don’t worry I don’t think disney are launching in europe, I expect them to be picked up by someone else this side
Well, they did say that they are going to be appearing in all major regions. There was some licencing issue or something for the EU last time I looked it up. However, if these appear on Amazon I’d be happy enough with that…
Oh they will launch in the EU. They are just currently holding back because… drummroll… BREXIT. And general EU law on copyright etc. Source: https://whatsondisneyplus.com/why-is-disney-delayed-in-europe/
greed is good .. am I rite ?
Seriously.
If Disney can’t do a global/world-wide release of a system with content that is 100% theirs then who can ?
I do wonder what’s going to happen to the Disney tv-channel once their streaming service hits critical mass …
the channel will remain as long as there are areas without good internet.
I would agree . I live in the middle of nowhere. I’m lucky enough to have fibre broadband and mobile coverage is ok if a little patchy. As couple of km down the road there finally getting ADSL this year so I think so companies like sky and the channels they broadcast will still be around for many years even in the so called first world
I would expect Sky to gradually start transitioning over to streaming. They kind of already have it, you can watch on demand stuff online. But yeah, there’s loads of people, even in urban areas, who are just tied to the more traditional delivery medium as well as those in rural areas who perhaps don’t have the option of streaming
Just give me the Mandalorian soundtrack already!
The Mandalorian looks solid. Cant say I have any confidence in the finale to the new triology after the last jedi
Have confidence in JJ Abrams.
He’s probably the least director I have confidence in.
JJ Abrams is the reason the main Star Wars is broken. Last Jedi was a bad story using bad characters – characters created by Abrams.
Everything he touches turns to crap. Plus he has no ideas Episode VII is basically IV, V and VI rehashed,and this one is pretty much pieces from the EU.
One might almost say that TFA was a… Wait for it… Bad Reboot! Get it? Anyone? No? Wow, tough crowd. I will get my coat.
It may be a bad reboot, but it could have been fixed provided the sequel was written and directed by a competent person.
Plenty of things that never got explained … and given that rey(sp?) got too much power too soon it would have been perfect to take her down.
Except they didn’t … and now we’re left with an unstoppable trainwreck.
love it can’t wait give me them all now and more I want it all nomnomnomnom
Based on those trailers those seem interesting.
Please Empire, no more spherical weapons! And they’re not star-shaped; they should be called Death Balls.
Yeah…
Even when the EU was continuing the Star Wars story, they couldn’t seem to stop adding new and bigger super weapons capable of blowing up a planet (or a system, since they started escalating things).
Seriously, can’t someone come up with a different McGuffin?
IIRC one that could destroy star systems was called Sun Crusher because it did so by making sun of that star system go supernova. It was one of silliest things in SW EU alongside things like Galaxy Cannon, World Crushers and invading alien race Yuuzhan Vong that would had been more home in 40k than in SW and that says something.
While Star Wars 7 was an okay movie The Last Jedi is just awful. Really wonder where Star Wars 9 will land.
All things considered Disney fumbled the brand and I enjoy my bit of schadenfreude.
I found 8 to be odd and uneven.
I just loved the Rey/Ren/Luke stuff. That worked great.
Poe vs, Holdo was strange- mostly because Poe is presented as the protagonist, but he isn’t allowed to protag. Holdo makes all of the decisions, but we really don’t get her perspective until after that conflict is over.
The Finn/Rose/DJ stuff is problematic. Mostly because we spent a LONG time on it, and it comes to nothing. Structurally, the story would have worked if that sidequest had brought something to the table (like if they had learned something about the First Order’s plans that proved useful and helped them escape).
It is a bit frustrating because the parts I like are things I really like, but I can see the problems with the rest of it.
I’d blame identity politics for the mess.
Men can’t be allowed to be in a position of power and women are ‘good’.
Notice how all ‘evil’ is male (with a single exception for that girl in shiny trooper armor).
Poe is constantly told how ‘momma knows best’ and that he should trust the plan when zero reasons are given for there even being one.
And then one deus ex machina after another to make sure the girls survived/won their missions …
Oh … and of course Luke had to die too.
Finn sacrificing himself would have been the best part of the final battle.
The acting may be better than the prequels, but the plot makes even less sense.
Even better than Finn sacrificing himself would be a suicide pact between all the major characters. That way we wouldn’t need a sequel
I feel that you underestimate the plotting problems of the prequels:
– Film 1 has major act 2 problems (the plotting in act 2 makes no sense).
– Film 2 has problems throughout. We have a lot of secret motives for actions, but when we learn the truth, we simply find out that none of it makes any sense.
– Film 3 has less structural problems, but major issues with motivation (especially Annakin’s about face character arc).
And then there are the specifics:
– They land their robot army on the far side of the planet and walk all the way across the planet to ‘ambush’ the capitol city. And somehow, taking a submarine through the center of the planet makes sense to someone?
– They establish that Qi Gon could have gone to someone else and used his Republic Credits to buy a ship (perhaps with the use of a Jedi influence). But he’d prefer to gamble the fate of his expedition on Annakin’s ability to win a race that he’s never finished so that he can self righteously lecture Watto about why he shouldn’t gamble because he might lose.
– Little ten year old Annakin, having never flown before, has a luck factor of a billion. He hits random buttons and takes out the flag ship all by himself. And not to mention that this directly contradicts Obiwan’s description of him from Ep 4.
– Annakin is too old for training? Seriously, are we trying to serve kids up to the Sith?
– Why is there a bottomless pit in the Naboo palace? And why did the Naboo have those timed force fields set up? What is the practical use for these things. Or did Padme have them install a massive lightsaber fight chamber?
– Jango Fett doesn’t bounty hunt. Hell, the only hit job he gets is one that he farms out to a ‘shape shifter.” Presumably, Jango expected this shape shifter to infiltrate Padme’s cohorts using said abilities, but the shape shifter never uses that ability to do anything- she just sends little robots instead.
– But Jango is there to kill said shape shifter. And he starts flying away. And after chasing down the last suspect as she flew away with a huge head start, the jedi don’t even try to follow Jango. What is up with that?
– Jedi have genetic inheritable abilities, but are forbidden to have attachments like marriages. So, Jedi mostly come from broken homes where the jedi parent abandoned his/her children. That makes no sense.
– Padme finds a lot of weird attributes attractive. Like whining and genocide.
– Obiwan is kind of dumb while he’s investigating things. Actually, a lot of people are.
– Obiwan is even stupider when he decides to confront Grevious. He gave up the high ground, and the initiative so that he could be surrounded.
– You’re actually supposed to think that Count Dukoo might be a good guy until the ‘reveal’ that he’s a Sith at the end of the film. We all knew he was evil when they cast Christopher Lee and made him wear all black (long before we saw his red lightsaber).
– Yoda is 2% younger in the prequel trilogy, and that is apparently enough for him to go from a leaping frog style fighting to “Luke should go fight Vader all by himself” in Empire.
– Obiwan gives up the high ground over and over again.
– Padme’s death makes pretty much no sense. I mean, she’s just had two kids, and was coherent enough to name them both. Then, she’s totally dead (that’s not to mention Leia’s memories of her mother).
– Annakin doesn’t have a complete arc to turn him into the Darth Vader that we know (who is saying things like “You don’t know the POWER of the DARK SIDE”). He seriously needed to leave the Jedi order and become a Sith by the end of film two, so that he could actually have a progression into sadism throughout film 3.
@odinsgrandson that’s why I said … it made even *less* sense.
I think Annakins’ fall to the dark side is explained way better in the Star Wars Clone Wars series.
Lots of subtle hints and things done by both the Sith and the Jedi council themselves (with their holier than thou secrecy crap) that make his switch fall realistic.
And yeah … he should have been pretty dark in the second part of that prequel trilogy.
Instead all we get is an annyoyed kid who wants to see his mommy in episode 1 and a spoilt brat switching to the dark side for cookies in episode 3.
That’s the problem with any type of prequel : the history becomes a list of bullet points to check during filming.
Like oh *beep* Padme still lives and we haven’t thought of anything to kill her yet.
So she dies at child birth in a setting that can bring Luke back from being frozen.
(Vader needed an arc AFTER he turned to the Dark Side, so the Clone Wars doesn’t quite cut it. He needed to turn to the Dark Side and gain power, and then further develop into the character we see in the OT. Revenge of the Sith never actually gets him there. We just get “Annakin whines a lot” that turns into “Annakin shouts a lot, and kills children.” We never see him turn into the stoic, confident killer from the OT).
Aside from all of this, the biggest problem with the prequel trilogy is that they fail as prequels.
For a prequel to work, it needs to show events that the audience is already familiar with, but those events need to be seen in a new and different light. And all of this needs to happen without contradicting the information we’ve already been given.
The Star Wars prequels fail in all of these ways. They contradict the original films in ways that don’t make sense (it seems that Obiwan lies to Luke for no reason a LOT).
And they show the fall of Vader happening pretty much exactly the way we’d expected without much in the way of new perspective.
The interesting part of the prequels was actually all of the politics. While this was largely a jab at conservative politics, the way that the bloated Old Republic transforms into the Fascist Empire really works in an interesting way. But that’s very background in most of the films- it only elevates to B story in the third movie.
One thing I really like about the new trilogy (and I do accept that these films are flawed) is the fact that Kylo Ren has a more literal take on the Dark Side. Vader says things like “Give in to your emotions” but he always acts callous and uncaringly stoic. Kylo Ren actually lets his anger fly loose.
Kylo letting his anger loose seems to be little more than trashing whatever room he is in. He never really goes on a spree. He kind of seems like Anakin 2.0 – just another stroppy youth with a laser sword.
The issue with the sequels is not that they’re flawed, you can pick holes in almost any story even the original trilogy. It’s that they’re and full of poorly written characters. And as part of a saga, like the prequels, they actually spoil the story. The prequels might have had failings but they were original and the characters were much more enjoyable.
I still maintain to this day that Star Wars didn’t need a sequel. Return of the Jedi was the fairytale happy ending, good triumphed over everything; no more story was required. Disney should have started an entirely new story, only tangentially related, if at all, to the original films. But Disney don’t have the stones for that.
Q: What prequel actors gave the worst performances of their careers to Star Wars?
A: All of them
Very notably, Natalie Portman has an Oscar, and deserves it. But George gave her lines like “Annakin, you’re breaking my heart.”
Samuel L. Jackson is amazing in every other performance of his career. I want to love Mace Windu as much as I love the idea of Samuel L. Jackson as a Jedi with a purple lightsaber, but it is far and away his most boring role.
Characters in the prequels were obnoxiously flat. On the other hand, the Last Jedi version of Luke was nuanced and interesting (even if Mark Hamil thinks he should have been more flat). Kylo Ren is a more fleshed out villain than we’ve ever seen in Star Wars.
If we’re looking for interesting characters, the sequel trilogy is doing WAY better.
It looks like Disney is going to start up new stories for a new trilogy- but it is not clear that we feel confident in the team heading the project after the end of GoT.
None of the villains in the sequels are in any way villainous. None of them seem intimidating or scary in the slightest, not even close. At no point in the film does it feel like any of the Villains is going to do anything of any real consequence, you never feel like they’re going to lose it and kill a load of people. You always got that impression from Vader.
Wow. Your reading of Vader is very different from mine.
Also, your reading of Kylo Ren is very different from mine.
Based ONLY on episode IV vs episode VII (because episode VII was so dreary my only venture into star wars since then has been Rogue One), compare Tarkin and Vader to Hux and Kylo. Like everything else about TFA, the new characters are just pale imitations of the old.
Hux looks like the kind of guy whobgets bullied for his lunch money in Star Killer base canteen. Every. Single. Day. And when he gets angry it seems more like a tantrum than genuine rage. Where Tarkin comes off as arrogant and is defeated by Hubris, Hux just appears childish and incompetent. I don’t think it helps that the actor looks too boyish, they should have cast his dad in the role.
Kylo Ren looks like a wannabe Darth Vader but ends up more like Anakin Skywalker. And despite the efforts to play it up, at no point was I ever convinced he would convert to the light side.
And that’s just the two Villains. I could be here all day bemoaning the good guys. There are precisely zero good characters in Force Awakens and as a result the story suffers beyond its own inherent problems.
Episode VII was the first star wars film I haven’t revisited on DVD after seeing it at the cinema. Episode VIII is the first star wars film I didn’t bother watching at the cinema. I won’t say Star Wars is ruined but the main Saga is certainly well past saving and its failure begins with Force Awakens. Had the characters been better written, it may have been possible to overlook the flaws in the story because I would have wanted to know what happened to them. But they were so utterly uninteresting and 1 dimensional that I left the cinema not caring about any of them at all and thus not really bought into the sequel story. It’s now gone from must see viewing at the cinema to case by case basis viewing.
Star Wars has always been all about the 1 dimensional characters. The original trilogy uses ancient tropes and doesn’t give the characters a whole lot more to be. We still love them, but they are extremely simple characters.
I mean, do any of us actually think that Emperor’s plan to cackle evilly at Luke was a good way to convince him to join the Empire?
In the prequels, the characters are mostly more flat. Most have only the most minimal characterization needed to make the clunky story happen- and they often fall horrifically short of that (Padme and Annakin especially).
But why are you hoping to see the old characters in the new ones? I mean, I think Kylo Ren is a lot less interesting if you don’t look at the ways that they distinguish him from Darth Vader (and the ways that Kylo’s choices emphasize the agency Vader exercised).
Ultimately, the thing I don’t understand is “Why now?” I mean, all of your criticisms of the sequel trilogy were present in the prequel trilogy, but much worse. Why are you leaving Star Wars as a six part saga instead of a three part saga?
Star Wars isn’t about 1 dimensional characters. The original story had characters that developed and grew, even within a single film. The Force Awakens didn’t. It had little miss perfect, Rey, mister nervous breakdown, Finn accompanied by some past their sell by date characters from the original films. Even the returning characters from the original films were awful.
Beyond the characters I haven’t made any real criticisms of the actual film, Force Awakens, itself. Indeed it would be very hard to make a criticism of that film that would not also be applicable to episode IC seeing as it is a blatant rip off of that film. And that’s where the Prequels trump the sequels. They may have had some corny dialogue, they may have had some wooden acting at times. However they were telling an original story. At no point did I feel as though I had seen it before. It is possible, on the other hand, to write a fairly detailed plot synopsis of Force Awakens that is equally applicable to A New Hope.
Is that a …swiss army lightsaber?
It looks stupid. I remember when Darth Maul switched on his lightsabre and boom, suddenly he opened a second blade in the reverse direction. That looked so cool. This version looks silly, the way both blades switch on in parallel and then it scissors open like some kind of Swiss army knife attachment. Don’t get me wrong, double bladed lightsabres are definitely cool but having them open like a pair of scissors isn’t
The light saber is the coolest idea, but also the worst implemented one in fiction.
None of the combat makes sense when you consider that they’re holding a glowing stick of plasma …
Why use it as a sword when you can point and burn ?
It’s got laser guns and space magic. I can overlook lightsabre combat not making sense
There’s actually a lot of inconsistency to it.
I think there’s a real question about how hard you need to swing a lightsaber in order to cut through stuff. Sometimes, it seems like a lightsaber cuts through basically anything with no resistance, but in other instances, it seems like they need to put a lot of strength behind it in order to cut things (contrast Qi Gon cutting the bulkhead in Ep 1 against pretty much every time they do the same thing in the Star Wars Rebels series).
If you need a lot of strength behind the blade in order to force it through something, then the fighting styles make a lot more sense. Except for the fact that none of them have hand guards.
To be fair, Maul’s lightsaber is a really bad idea. Having a blade on the other end limits his reach and his ability to swing it (since most ways to swing it would cut him in half).
But, like the double headed orc ax in D&D, they look cool.
But that’s what it’s about, looking cool. The newest double bladed lightsabre looks silly.
https://youtu.be/aXT38i7-RN0
I tentatively agree with you- but I think the piece that is missing is to really see how it works in action.
At least for now, I’m hesitant to judge the action sequences that I haven’t seen (and which might not be in the film anyway).
Looks like a good excuse to rewatch all the film’s to refresh everything.
I have low expectations of Mandalorian as a laconic bounty hunter only works in small doses… and I’m not willing to sign up for any streaming TV as it’s a massive ripoff.
As for Star Wars… Darth Maul’s dual bladed lightsaber was cool… the hinged one looks rubbish… but I’ll watch the film when it comes out.
Maybe it will be like Dog the Bounty Hunter. Like a reality TV show set in Star Wars where we have a Mandalorian bounty hunter but who also knows he is on TV
Eh, I’m not really sold. I pretty much gave up on Star Wars after The Force Awakens, and let’s not even start on the train wrecks that were The Last Jedi and Solo. I’ll stick with the original trilogy.
I’m a little surprised you held out hope through the prequel era, only to give up after The Force Awakens.
The prequels were far superior to the sequels.
How old were you when you watched them?
I mean it- the prequels were terrible. They had amazing lightsaber sequences, but were awful on so many levels. They had poor writing, poor plotting and characters that were both unmotivated and unlikeable.
But now that there are sequels, people are talking about them like they were the glory days of Star Wars.
What the crap?
From the brand that brought you Mickey Mouse, something something something allegedly, and Film [n]: Where [n] Is A Whole Number….
From the director who brought you Star Trek VII but was only really a consultant for Star Trek VIII…
And from the golden goose that keeps bringing you a new hope…
Comes the end of a cluster…
Star Wars IX: Same Same But Same Difference.
I clapped! AT-AT! Light saber!
Yeah, no. I’ll pass on that train wreck. No more money for Disney!
Abrams wasn’t part of Star Trek until Star Trek XI.
I know.
Also, was 8 the only good Star Trek film from the TNG crew?
TNG was a much better television show than the original series, but it seems kind of silly that it would translate to film so much worse.
And 10 was awful and bombed, so we never got 11: the Search for Data.
This may well all be true @odinsgrandson, but i think perhaps you’re missing the play i’m making. I’m deliberately mixing up ‘Trek’ and ‘Wars’, implying that there isn’t really any difference anymore. Now i think of it it might have been better if i’d used a portmanteau. ‘Wrek’ comes to mind.
my guess is Ray is a clone. the Ray with the awful hinged lightsabre is one of palpatine’s clones he kept around hence she looks very sith like and the Ray we know is one that was set free for some reason as a child. makes sense when her force vision of her parents was just lots of her. now she’s either a clone from skywalker DNA or from palpatine’s DNA, which one i’m not sure. he did have a bit of a habit for cloning people.
i’m not expecting anything from ep 9, but really looking forward to the mandalorian. got a bit of the same feel as rogue one gave me.
Sounds like an average EU storyline…
But probably, the evil Rey is just from a force vision or some such.
there’s just one problem with that idea … it’s too cool and would require the use of a brain by the director/producer & suits funding this thing.
I mean … they’ve practically ignored everything that happened in ‘Force Awakens’ to make the sequel.
So why expect them to finish any lose threads in the ‘final’ part of this trilogy ?
My guess is…
Oops, sorry. Fell asleep.
I enjoyed Star Wars as a kid and teen, and had decent amount of nostalgia for it even after the god-awful prequels. Sadly, the new trilogy did nothing to rekindle or capitalize on the nostalgia. Not due to “hurr durr SJW girl cootie” thing, but because it was all flat and clearly unloved. George might be a hack who needed anchor weights to keep him grounded enough to deliver the original trilogy, but at least he had passion for his setting. This is just your usual paint by the numbers corporate schlock like MCU, DCU and every other “U” under the sun the last decade.
I feel that George had less of a love of Star Wars than an egotistical love of himself, and a desire to prove that he was actually a great director.
He comes from the first generation of directors that went to film school where they teach “Auteur Theory”- basically the idea that in order to be an actual artist, a director needs to be the one and only person artistically working on a film.
George didn’t have a problem with this in his younger days- he could have someone else write a script or even direct his ‘baby’ and collaborated on the results. With the prequels, he felt the need to do it all without anyone else’s input. He wanted no one telling him what to do, and the result is that the only people telling him what to do were fans and critics.
He quit making Star Wars and sold it because he realized that there was no escaping someone telling him what to do.
If the Mandalorian is on Netflix or Amazon I might watch it. If its on
a Disney streaming service then I won’t bother. I am not adding yet another streaming subscription to my monthly outgoings, it’s starting to get Silly.
The Main Saga was pretty much dead to me after Force Awakens.
I would like to clarify though. I still love Star Wars, just not the current set of films. My head is still turned by new shiny toy soldiers… I just can’t help myself. Let’s face it, no amount of shite story telling now, is going to stop Jedis with laser swords or X-wing fighters being cool.
don’t tempt them … they just might find a way to make it boring.
I’m still amazed that the cartoon series were as cool and as interesting as they were.
Even the Lego Masterbuilder series had more heart and a better story than the last 6 Star Wars movies combined.
Love it all, can’t wait for episode 9.