Weekender XLBS: Dungeon Delving Show Update & More Star Wars X-Wing!
September 13, 2015 by lloyd
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Happy Sunday, Comrades!
Happy sunday!
…and thus began the story of Chicken Lich.
Happy Sunday!
The lack of scale between my toys always annoyed me as a child, and now as a adult I am also concerned when buying toys for my kids.
Bingo!
I’m not alone on this then lol
Exactly!
I also never historically segregated my lego’s. Nope, didn’t happen at all. (Sorry pirates, but the knights just cannot be your friends.)
I think you’ll find that even the ffg Millennium Falcon and many other models aren’t to scale. The abstraction used in x-wing game isn’t dependent on models being to scale.
You’re quite right. The X-Wing core scale is 1/270 but there is considerable variance, for example both the Falcon and the Imperial Shuttle should be quite a bit larger.
This guy is a scale modeller and has a page detailed the variance.
http://www.rebelscale.com/scale-lists/fantasy-flight/
In the case of X-Wing it doesn’t actually bother me too much since the models just seem to “sit” well together. In the end I’m a gamer, not a modeller although some of the egregious examples (e.g. Hot Wheels Star Wars models) do really annoy me but FF have got it right enough for me.
The most obvious example is the pound shop bag of green generic soldiers.
They so often have a 1/72 ‘ish’ sized tank with 1/32 ‘ish’ scale soldiers.
My son has a set of soldiers where a red cross tent is big enough to fit some soldiers in, but about twice the height of the tanks in the same bag.
It isn’t until you get older and start making your own models that you really give it any thought as to just how nonsensical that really is.
🙂
‘Round here we call it “box scale”, the size of the model is determined by the size of the box (packaging) it’s meant to fit into.
Epic T-shirt, @johnlyons . 🙂 Moriarty doesn’t appreciate the Tiger. “Always with the negative ways, Moriarty! ALWAYS with the negative waves!”
xwing stands look like they would to be to fit on childrens fingers
Happy Sunday
Well coincidently with @lloyd talking about his dragon, I have a D&D red dragon that needs building and painting. Although I am going for a more black , purple and red scheme…I have been trawling through youtube and some of Romain’s old tutorials on the beholder and the worm to get ideas of how to paint it.
Happy Sunday!
Morning gents 🙂
SF dungeon crawl sounds fun!!
40k would be ideal but also Mantic could work well I guess..
And if you need USMC painted up you know where I live 😎
Happy Sunday all!
Finally you’re regrowing that beard Justin.
Not sure if I missed it but did you guys say where the dungeon crawler terrain came from?
Made using Hirst arts molds
Sci Fi dungeon crawlers : Traveller , Kill Team , Dark Heresy and at one time TSR even bought out one . These are but a few of the plethora of Sci Fi games that have been out over the years.
Mantic also had Project Pandora
Happy Sunday!
Where’s your Rise of the Kage unboxing ?
The only intimidating thing about that ludicrous hat would be the fear of how many of my nicely painted models you damaged when it fell off you head onto the table later in the game!
The Chickenliche you refer to is called (disappointingly) Mike! http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/history
Happy Sunday!
Isn’t Imperial Assault kind of a Dungeon Crawler in a Sci-Fi setting? Not sure if you mention this today?
/Tommy
Star Wars: Imperial Assault is the very definition of a science fiction dungeon crawler.
To be honest, I don’t understand that why, aside from a couple of reposts of other peoples articles, Beasts of War has completely disregarded Imperial Assault, especially considering all the effort they went into the Battle of Hoth board.
Imperial Assault has it all, disparate characters coming together (6 heroes now), wide variety of baddies, heroes, villains, allies, bosses, missions. Loot, loads of loots and experience.
All this plus a full narrative, re-playable campaign with branching storyline
And that’s not even referring to the skirmish game variant that’s in the box too.
@compel never fear it is not forgotten, it is on our list of reviews.
BoW Gianna
@warzan, you forgot to terrify @dignity with the vegetable elemental!
In all seriousness though, am looking forward to the dungeon delving series, and more bolt action. I have been debating starting a LRDG bolt action army, but am unsure where to begin, and it would just be an unused army( closest bolt action player is approx 600kms away).
Just waiting for my dungeon saga KS to arrive so I can mix in some elements of WQ that I used to enjoy.
Anyone else still having problems with the xlbs videos? For me it jams regularly when watching, whether phone, Kindle or pc. Don’t have this issue with the YouTube videos.
Today I managed 15 s of content before it jammed. Yesterday’s video on YouTube plays fine, so can’t be my bandwidth.
Try using the Chrom web browser and turn HD off.
Dasvidanya is Russian for good bye
Zdravstvuyte is Russian for hello
Happy sunday!
I’d donate £5,- to have my slogan painted on one of the tanks.
I would have to think one up though.
Indeed, those “ЗА РОДИНУ!” (Za Rodinu – for the Motherland) and “ЗА СТАЛИНА!” (Za Stalina – for Stalin) . . . I hope those Cyrillic characters come out in the web window . . .are just the basics you see all the time on wartime posters and tanks. A lot of tanks also had Suvorov’s name on it (another Imperial Russian marshal), general’s names, and names of home towns. Towns could make donations and somehow “buy” or “sponsor” a tank to send to the front (almost like a demented “Kickstarter 🙂 ), so these things got really informal. Polish and Estonian national armies within the the RKKA would also have their own slogans. although they’d be in Polish or Estonian. Polish tanks even had the Polish eagle on them, which always looked great I thought.
Scifi dungeon crawelers:
Doom (The best imo)
Level 7 Omega Protocol
I would go with Deadzone, rules are practically ready for you ^^
Not to forget the classic Mutant Chronicle – Kampen om citadellet, the game that got me into this 😀
I regards to SF dungeon crawling, I’d try the Deadspace IP, or alternatively, use AVP in that, you are ….(get players to pick a collective faction), and are investigating (LV426)(aliens), verifying a distress peacon(alien), etc.
Personally I’d like to see a Deadspace SF style dungeon crawling experience, trying to get supplies, get parts to either fix whatever to get off the planet or the Ishimura, the planet-cracker class ship(the ship from the first game). I think @dignity would be crapping himself at necromorphs dropping on him from air vents….(evil DM chuckle).
Then again, you could try for a mad max meets fallout style post apocalyptica game……. No ice cream vans though!!!
Yeah Deadspace would be excellent, played out on the AVP, Sedition Wars and Space Hulk tiles. I wonder if you could adapt the Shadows of Brimstone rules for this..
schastlivoye voskresen’ye – Happy Sunday (in Russian)
IT’S OFFICIAL, JUSTIN IS REGROWING HIS BEARD! Open the kegs, prepare the hogs for a grand BBQ and initiate the festivities!
Second the motion. 😀
Happy Sunday
@lloyd for the dragon I would suggest doing the airbrush steps as warren suggested, then gloss varnish, then apply the black wash as either a watercolour or oil wash. This should get the black into the recesses but also allow you to clean the black off the scales so it doesn’t look dirty.
@amentothat: That is the best suggestion!
@lloyd: If you won’t paint all the scales over the black primer one by one, because dry brushing won’t do the job for your aimed result
Great show.
Glad to see Bolt action get tons of attention.
The dungeon delving scenery looks brilliant, but I understand why a bit of grime would tailor itself to the story and atmosphere you are likely aiming for.
I love the idea of Sci-Fi Infinity dungeon delving.
Those individual miniatures that catch your eye, but you aren’t collecting the army so can’t always warrant the expense of buying miniatures just to paint.
Corvus Belli could cash in from people like me in that way.
I would love to see a fellowship of Haqqislam Hassassin Ragiks, Ajax from Aleph, Mercenary Miyamoto Mushashi, Father-Officer Gabriele De Fersen, a Nomad Intruder and a Hardcase tactical bowman.
Would love to see either the Nomad find a new respect for Aleph by fight alongside Ajax, or even better… Ajax betray the fellowship and only the Nomads scepticism and thinking ahead thwarts Ajax’s plans and saves the fellowship.
I think the dragon Lloyd is painting can look epic either way that he paints it. I think he can still use washes as long as he can find some drastic contrast in his dry brushing after. I know I would be concerned that coming up from a black base and never having any blue paints dribble into those black recesses that you’re trying to preserve could be very tricky.
I’m going to make a chicken lich.
DW it will be a model not an actual act of animal cruelty
Happy Sunday
@lloyd have you tried using the airbrush at a 45-50 degree angle and then airbrushing. that should, if the recesses are deep enough give the scales definition i think
For a sci-fi dungeon crawler I like the richness of the 40k universe. I think that you would be better having a archeao-tech/STC recovery team and use the gorkamorka/necromunda rules to get to the location and do the dungeon crawl.
2n time stream stopped after about 9-10 min.
Happy sunday
I think Warpath/deadzone would be a good place to make a sci-fi dungoen game
but if you stik to 40K dont do the SM unless it is deathwatch, I think it would Work better with rogue trader theme
I’d use spacehulk as the basis for a SciFi dungeon crawler, but not involve Marines instead have a band or mechanicum explorators after some archeotech. Or a knightly house trying to recover a lost knight, or even a band of ork mekboyz after some bitz and gubbinz. I’d borow the game mechanic from execution force with the addition of an inventory per party member. The hulk itself could be infested with nids, orks or chaos.
As for changing the name of the weekender personally I like I as it is, although perhaps rename the Sunday show, the Sunday service is an obvious choice although I’d love to see the Sabbath sabaton sabbatical cus I like black Sabbath, sabaton and alliteration
Many years ago we used Rogue Trader and Judge Dredd floor plans for SF dungeon crawler type games
@torros, I think I still have the equivillant of 2 boxes of the GW Judge Dredd rpg floor plans somewhere. Forgot I had them till you mentioned then(and I went to check if I still had them).
And do you?
Yes, 2 & 1/2 boxes of GW Judge Dredd floorlplans with the scenary. Also found some very old AD&D 2 sided floorplans for village/city layouts (lost all the cardboard buildings that came with them)
Made me laugh out loud again with the hipster beard.
Have to share this – 2 * X-Wing new starter sets are in the post!
I don’t think Loyds right, 40k is perfect for sci-fi dungeon crawling, it is half fantasy as it stands! Inquisitors regularly form an “entourage” of various characters to go on adventures it is kind of what they do.
I am having real problems watching your videos. The playback keeps pausing every few minutes. It is really irritating. I’ve looked into this and apparently playback for Vimeo on Firefox is a known problem. So I switched to IE with same annoying problem. Any one have any ideas?
@comet5 Try using Google’s DNS servers rather than the ones your ISP provides or use a VPN/proxy and appear as if you are in America vimeo’s primary delivery infrastructure is very US centric.
Also disable hardware acceleration in Firefox. Finally turn HD off watch a vid refresh and turn back on usually fixes it
I’m actually developing a SF dungeon delver. It’s called Dimension Tomb and set in my Primeval Abyssian universe, where you control “Dimensioneers” that raid as you’d get tombs in a setting called the necroverse and fight the minions of the masters of unlife. I’ve sculpted some of the Dimensioneers and monster pieces so far. Because it’s an otherworldly dimension, the physical laws are more weirder and you can get lost or trapped in unusual ways.
Primeval Abyssian is a really neat and original universe. It’s great to hear you’re coming up with a new way to “apply” it, @abstractalien .
@warzan – I can help with Russian slogans if you neeed help – send me what you want to translate – I will send you jpgs ready translations. and pleae stop your idea about utility vest ushatka – utility bels makes sense only when you play batmat or green arrow or Owl from watchman in Batman game – ultimate geeknes !
Scifi Dungeon crawler, guys. FFG look at Dark Heresy, Only war, Deathwatch, Rogue Trader.
There is a lot of it. We had 3 year long campaing in Dark Heresy and it was the best RPG experience we had in years. We used 40k minis for that, it was easy to use miniatures we had only to down a scale 1/2 so one inch was 2m.(or something like that).
Happy Sunday! Thanks for a once really entertaining show.
The work in progress photos of the 8th Guards Soviets look really great so far. The lightly-colored winter quilted gymnastroika and shuba sheepskin coats look great, and contrast great with the darker materials and especially the light beige-greenish helmets. Perfect, and before I even sent the packet! 😀
Speaking of the packet, those images certainly are not mine . . .
In the interest of fairness, the primary sources for that thing:
OOB charts: http://www.niehorster.org/
Uniform plates: Osprey Publishing’s “Men at Arms” Series, #216, The Red Army of the Great Patriotic War 1941-45 (Steven J. Zaloga and Ron Volstad, 1989).
Tank Plates: Concord Publicatons’ Soviet Tanks in Combat, 1941-1945 (Steven Zaloga, Jim Kinnear, Andrey Aksenov, and Aleksandr Koshchavstev), 1997.
11th Tank Corps plates: “War is Over” website ( http://wio.ru/index.htm ) – site provided to BoW by community member yavasa).
@lloyd I would paint the Dragon blue, then wash with purple or green ink. Then work it up in greens, yellows and blues. Or you could send it to me and I’ll paint it up….lol..I won’t take 4 years either ;).
space Crusade
I never played it myself, but the Wikipedia entry for it makes it sound more like a skirmish wargame inside a spaceship, rather than a sci-fi dungeon delver.
whoop 🙂 can’t wait to chat Warren…great weekend as usual
Lloyd: Getting that black line between scales without loss of vibrancy in the top colours means you need to paint an even base coat. wash it back with black ink, applying the ink evenly and carefully. Avoid over applying and over watering the ink. you will then need to paint each scale back up with original colour and one or two highlights (My gut feeling is that one would be adequate as this isn’t a competition paint jobl). I would estimate 4-6 hours work max to do the whole dragon this way, so not excessive.
Regarding colour transitions: Probably best to use dark green instead of black ink and mix light pastel green with original blue for highlighting up.
I would not recommend drybrushing this model. Drybrushing big models can look ‘scruffy’ up close’
Happy sunday folks!
Llyod: For your dragon have you looked in to MIG’s enamel washes? You could lay down your base coats of blue, dark blue on the belly, and green blue on the upper surfaces. Give the model a gloss coat. Then apply the MIG wash. Since it’s an enamel, it has a slower drying time. After you let it sit for an hour, you go back with cotton swaps and balls and rub the enamel wash off the surface and it stays in the recesses.
With 40k having zero interest to me, a dungeon crawler based on it would leave me cold. Space Hulk is the nearest I’d get to it, and only then because it is based on a squad doing missions; you don’t have to have any interest at all in the rest of the IP background. Rogue Trader would be the exception due to it being being far enough aware from the current IP to be palatable.
As for a “justification” for a Sci-Fi dungeon delver: salvage. That fits in with the notion of braving dangerous environments to loot forgotten treasures, and opens up delving in a variety of environments: space ships (and “hulks”), deserted mining installations, mysteriously abandoned scientific outposts, etc. The salvagers (“adventurers”) could either be rag-tag opportunistic crews or rigid professionals, so any manner of figures and rules could be used to fit the setting.
Having just read someone’s suggestion of using the Deadzone rules, and then checking out the Mantic page, another ‘justification’ to dungeon delve would be specific missions (“quests) set by your commanding group and/or employer. In which case almost any sci-fi setting would suffice, as long as the group come from a hierarchical structure. 40k would definitely fit in with that.
Happy Sunday guys!
@warzan thanks for the mention 🙂
@oriskany Well, Warren mentions that you think the white banding around the turret was specific for the Berlin operation. Guess what? 🙂 You are right. Based on the decision from 24th of April 1945 all the units in the Leba-Berlin region were marked with this banding and additionally white crosses on the top of the turret so that airmen would not confuse own tanks with German ones. What is more, since Germans started to paint crosses on the top of the turret. From the 1st of May 1945 white triangles were used on Soviet/Polish tanks.
The topic of addition markings is quite interesting. It was of course because of the airmen who had problems with distinguishing friend or foe. So basically, the RKKA had to come up with a system of marking their tanks. Often this markings were painted on just a few hours before an offensive. So we’ve had the following markings on RKKA tanks: a red star painted in a white triange, a white circle on top of the turret, a whit band on top of the turret at Kursk. As you can read in some published memoirs these markings were not standardized and often changed.
Even the Polish eagle which you have mentioned earlier was used in different variants. SO we’ve had in the 4th heavy tank regiment using IS-2 tanks an eagle painted in a red rhombus with a white lining. The eagle was also painted usually before tactical markings but there were also some exceptions like in the 2nd tank regiment using T34/76 where the tactical numbers were first and the eagle second. From what I remember the eagle could have been found in different places than the turret as for example the fender of SU-76’s from the 4th Infantry Division.
Sci-Fi Dungeon Crawlers: Sedition Wars and Level 7
Happy Sunday! With the Dragon I really recommend using the army painter coloured inks, the red, blue, green and purple would all add some awesome effects over the colour effects Warren suggests, and then you could add a very light dry brush or even better some edge highlights to really make it pop.Be simple and quick to do!
Hi BOW & Backstagers,
Great show, love the dungeon, which Hirst arts moulds do you need to get started?
Ok, dragon scales and washes – Lloyd you’re Dragon, I’d try the Crystal blue base, then use a dark blue wash, water it down and applie a few washes, letting it dry in between. This will get rid of the dirty look that the dark tone gives you. The dark tone is ace, but is based on a warm brown colour that as you can imagine, when put over blue turns it dirty looking. Try a blue wash build up the tone then when all dry either dry brush back to Crystal if you need to, or pick out each scale and tip it with an ice blue. Same if you want to go to Turquoise, and if you want to fade into the White stripe, then an airbrush will help the blend, but wash it with a mix of crystal blue and turquoise, then it should blend better between the colour change. Hope it helps
The only issue I have with these great-looking, highly-detailed, CAD miniatures like Icarus Project, Infinity, and Human Interface is they are so detailed that I don’t think I can paint them as well as the models deserve. I like more a miniature design philosophy where “character” is defined by the silhouette and looks great with minimal detail. Like the GW space mari…adeptus astartes or Judge Dredd.
Also I’m kind of surprised by Warren’s anti-Hipster stance lately. He seems like a guy who’s matured enough to be welcoming to anyone getting into the hobby. Of course I’m sure he’s being tongue-in-cheek.
I’m not being anti hipster, it is just a light hearted observation of the growth and change of demo graphic.
I’m surprised I even have to type this lol
Welcome to the Internet in 2015. You can’t say anything about anybody without someone taking it the wrong wqy.
I have to say this is the first time I’ve ever seen Hipsterism treated like a protected characteristic. I always thought they were like a common enemy. Like, whatever your political outlook on life, at least you’re not a hipster, right? I wonder if Hipsters are going to find representation under a future version of the Equalities Act 2012
@nakchak Thanks for that. I’ll try it.
Sci-Fi Dungeon Crawler using existing gaming IP for me 40k would be my first choice. I’m not really a 40k gamer, not in the regular way. I grew up playing 40k but these days my 40k intake comes from Dark Heresy. I love the setting and, because of the style of the setting and the lore, it suits the Dungeon Crawler perfectly and, in my opinion, it would work better without Space Marines because Inquisitorial Agents work much better; they open up a very diverse range of character types and potential quest goals.
Infinity might lend itself well to a Dungeon Crawler and you’d potentially be opening up a new side of the Infinity setting – exploration and frontier worlds. So agents from the Human Sphere landing on new planets to explore what’s there. Loot might come in the form of Alien Artifacts or mineral resources (which convert to cash).
Mantic’s Warpath World might, but I don’t know much about it. I’ll reserve judgement until after their kickstarter when I guess they will expand their universe more.
I agree that 40k would work for a sci-fi Dungeon Crawler, but instead of Marines I think it’d be better to go for an Inquisitorial warband. The narrative could be that they’re new henchman recruits and their Inquisitor has dropped them into the thick of things to weed out the less competent ones/weaker ones. They start off fighting weak cultists and over time progress until they get to the point where they’re trying to stop a ritual to summon a greater daemon. Loot is in the form of heretical artefacts that the Inquisition wants retried for study/safe disposal/safe keeping, lost tech that the Mechanicum is after, etc.
Same premise could work with a squad of penal legion guardsmen a la the Last Chancers that are tasked with doing dirty work that’s too dangerous for regular guardsmen/the
Inquisition doesn’t want to risk losing valuable operatives on.
Either way NPCs can take the form of other guardsmen squads, other henchmen bands, prisoners of the cultists/xenos, their patron Inquisitor himself (or one of his senior henchmen), etc.
Alternatively, you could go down the Necromunda route and have the heroes be gangers. This would more closely match the traditional dungeon crawler setup with the Underhive taking the place of the kingdom and dungeons. Enemies can range from rival gangs, to Chaos cultists, to Genestealer cultists, Ork infestations, outlawed warbands and various mutant beasties yo take the place of monsters. And in this setup, rather than being tied to following orders, the heroes are more freelance, taking jobs that they think pay the best. Downside is probably that there’s less scope for a Big Bad at the end of it that takes the form of a big monster and instead would probably be more along the likes of a crime lord or corrupt corporate executive (although I suppose he could have a big gribbly as a pet, Jabba-Rancour style).
@dignity come join us in Destiny!!
SciFi Dungeon Crawler – How about starcraft
The First order in SWTFA are the remainder of the empire under a new leader and name, the rebellion are now called The Resistance.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/First_Order
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resistance
Hmm HINT is one of the two KS projects that I regret not being able to back (Zombicide being the other). Drawing upon source materials like Cyberpunk 2020 and Cyber City Oedo, it is exactly the kind of setting I love and the minis look like they will turn out far better than I could have guessed.
Oh well, some of it will hit retail eventually..
HINT are offering Late Pledges so if you hurry you may still be able to back
Loyd
In a previous painting video Roman said you should wash in a colour that is on the oposing side of the colour wheel so you don’t loose vibrancy. Red is the opposite of Blue. So try a red wash instead of a blue one. It should make it darker and keep your Blues cool.
Owen
Save the Cat is an amazing book. I use it in my work everyday. Great reference guys!
dungeon crawler futuristic and badass game: Level 7 Omega protocol
re: the wash question. try using oil to wash. GW and army painter will always leave a film or dark everywhere, oil painting can always be removed after applying. So the method would be:
1-base color (blue)
2-black oil use as wash ( thin with turpentine)
3-remove excess with brush and pure turpentine
4-once dry, brush with base color
5-apply bright colors you want for highlights with dry brush method
that should do the trick ^^
I use ‘502 abteilung oils’, they have different range, which should work well with the blue dragon you are painting. good luck.
But but but, I have a beard and an ushanka… Lol.
@lloyd try getting it the base colours you want first, then gloss varnish and use a black enamel wash. You need to get it very glossy because that helps with the enamel surface tension and it will just sit in the recesses to give you the black outline. Simply load a brush with the wash and just lightly touch it to creases and recesses and the enamel spreads like magic. Then you matte varnish afterwards to take the gloss off.
Great thing with enamels is that once you’ve done the wash stage (and before varnishing again) you can go around with turpentine and lift of the wash from where you don’t want it. Looking at the dragon, you could probably get away with just using a cotton bud dipped in turps and rubbing it over all the scales.
if you are looking for brillant dungeon crawling scenery, have a look at manorhouse / maki games underground modular project. the ks was cancelled, but the creators are planning to launch a new one.
scifi crawler : deadzone rules as well as minis should a good start. plague and zombies are your perfect creepy monsters… that plus the upcoming veermyn.
great show guys.
Sci-Fi Dungeon, well I’d say Space Crusade which I think first had the evil overlord actually trying to beat the player/players.
But having playing it a fair bit recently, Imperial Assault is pretty much to me what @warzan talked about.
For an IP to be a sci delver, I think Judge Dredd based game would work well. Start as Rookies, develop skills, get access to special weapons, as progresses.
@warzan There will be an encounter during the journey on the ship. It will involve the Red Orktober.
There already is a 40K dungeon crawler. It’s called Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader/Deathwatch. Yes, it is a full-blown RPG system offering a wider scope than crawling through dungeons. But it’s also suitably combat oriented to do just that.
I led a very colourful party into a Tyranid infested mine and it was funny and spectacular. The party consisted of a local noble knight, an Eldar Farseer, two ex-military mercenaries trying to steal his staff, a techpriest with a hidden agenda and a Sister Repentia accompanied by a Battle Sister guiding her through her penance. That half of the characters didn’t get along made the adventure all the more fun. Facing two Genestealers they cooperated just fine.
I’ve had a good long think and I think the FALLOUT universe would be a great wifi dungeon crawler! Grab bottle caps , junk , med packs , stelf boys and the mini nuke firing ” fat man ” rocket launcher!!
The monsters are plenty and npc a many !
Oops sifi
Lloyd i would do crystal blue and wash with a glaze, then 100% match dry brush.
Just my humble opinion 🙂
SF Dungeon crawlers include Level 7: Omega Protocol as already mentioned by a few other people.
Although 40K has been mentioned as a suitable IP to set a dungeon crawler, as have the FFG roleplaying games, I don’t think anyone has mentioned Black Crusade. A game that lets you play as chaos worshippers would be perfect for such a game as you can fight anyone and anything in the 40K universe, go on looting and random destruction missions and of course, you can delve into structures in the Eye of Terror. You could even visit the home of the daemon-primarch Perturabo, which is basically a planet-sized dungeon…
Oh, two other suggestions…
Dropzone Commander isn’t an obvious option, but the game includes close combats set inside buildings. A game could work if it was set around a squad of colonial marines entering and trying to clear a Scourge-held building. I’d love to play such a game, although I don’t honestly think the setting includes enough varied gribblies at such a scale to make it work as well as other settings.
Half Life would be another idea. It’s pretty much a SF dungeon crawler, and much of it would make a pretty cool tabletop game. I think maybe someone has already made a ‘not Gordon Freeman’ model too…