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XLBS Cult Of Games: 3D Sculpting For Fun & What’s Your Collection Worth?
October 4, 2020 by avernos
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It’s the XLBS Show…….Happy Sunday Cogs!
@lloyd is this Pun Master this week!!!
@joshtogo those Moonstone minis are right down my ally. They’d even fit well with my Hundred Kingdoms Army if their size was close.
@intelligentmistertoad Do you think those Stalingrad trenches would work for Firelock Games ‘Blood and Valor’?
I cut my teeth on 3D software with Lightwave, as I was using it to enhance videos. I’ve tried a bit with ZBrush, but I’ve never stuck with it. Now that I have a 3D printer I now have a reason to get back to it.
One of the things that help in doing 3D Zbrush work is to use a Wacom Cintiq. I have an old one and it is fantastic. You can snag older ones at a fair price, but they only run on older Windows OS and the drivers are limited. But you save tons of money. If you go with the newer units you get all the latest bells and whistles but the price is up there pretty high.
I’ve been grinding away on my Conquest armies and have acquired some scrub grass and flowers to add to bases…………………………..
but I’ve been a little distracted by my Marvel Crisis Protocol and have been looking at getting serious with modifying some of the figures. I love the stuff as it comes from AMG but as a long-time comic book fan, I find myself thinking, “But how good would this figure look in this pose with this paint scheme”? So I’ve been mucking about with that some this week.
I’ll put up some pics with other minis for scale. Gerry says they’re massive and even the folks at Goblin King maintain they’re large but they don’t feel that way to me. Off the top of my head I put them somewhere between Infinity and Crisis protocol. (Now to go find out how wrong I am and how right Gerry is)
I’ll be checking in here looking for the info of what you find out. ??
I just put a photo up in the project that will hopefully give you a bit more insight into the question of scale. Direct link: https://www.beastsofwar.com/project-entry/1572409/
HAPPY SUNDAY!!!!
I would have been here earlier, but I’ve been distracted by HeroForge… 🙂 😛 🙂
Makes me wonder how much the old Wargaming collections of the 50’s and 60’s would be worth now
Happy Sunday
I started wondering about the worth when I came across an old empire elector count in an antiques shop
Happy Thursday,
Was it the good elector count Marius Leitdorf or was it one of the others
Alas no. It was the the osterland one with a hawk.
Although my local second hand miniature shop had Marius Leitdorf in at the end of July, but I was too slow.
Happy Sunday!
I knew there was a reason for keeping so much of my minis ‘collection’ in pristine, unpainted condition. Feel better about it now! 😉
Happy Sunday… and now for the hearing impaired/non native speakers again in writing: his late grandmother called what toilet paper? oO
It was the face you make when a finger goes through the toilet paper ( when the chaps were talking about grinning at the start of the show’s Happy Sunday ).
Be quite interesting to know what value has been placed on all the items you guys have at OTT HQ on the shelves. For example 4Ground trees are no longer a thing.
Yay it’s the XLBS.
happy sunday
it was another very interesting XLBS.
??? ? (no more cuckoo from the bird disney + taught him R2D2 sounds).
The dog’s are fabulous an remind me of the Ghostbusters Zoul dog’s
Love the Gandalfian gnome.
The clone wars figures are stunning looking an the range from the store are mind blowing.
Happy Sunday!
I’ve often wondered about insuring my collection. The unpainted stuff would be doable, as would my painted “classic” oldhammer metals, for which there is a ready market. But painted newer stuff, and particularly stuff thats out of print and not hugely popular – say, all my Spartan Games stuff… hmmm. That would be tricky!
The big chore would be cataloguing it all in the first place!
Togo: kinda not an island. Very not an island in fact.
They’re thinking of Tonga. Happens all the time. It’s sad but understandable. I didn’t know Togo exists until I spent a couple of years there. Now I kind of wish it didn’t exist and definitely wish I’d lived in Tonga instead.
Ah yes. I remember late 90s employer sent a techie out to the British school over there. One of the diplomats took him on a tour, showed him the traffic lights, etc.
Still laughing at this. So true. So true.
Sums up Togo perfectly, though it gets even better when you live about as far from the capital as possible. In Dapaong they were proud that there was a road.
Toga!Toga!Toga!Toga!Toga!Toga!
@warzan – Printing 32mm at 10mm is certainly possible. Most of the details will still come out. But after painting? I feel that scaling minis down too much means you’re stuck with a splash of contrast and a couple of dots of detail otherwise you’ll lose all the lovely crisp detail?
I have seen an add on Facebook for a company for bieing people’s figures/models of they want to get shot of them I’ll stick it on discord if I see it again.
Happy Sunday! Was doing so good resisting hero forge! (Sees the Grim Reaper, loses all control). I think it might be worth insuring especially the way things are going. Remember thankfully these things will never degrade. I like to think one day my kids kid will be on antiques road show or something being told they can retire because they found an ‘old hammer’ halfling or something in grandads stuff.
This is why I’ll never have grand kids.
A fabulous fun show guy’s.
HAPPY SUNDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate to think what my collection is worth … hopefully more than it cost … but I doubt it … **sigh**
05:00 – There are no good guys in Fallout. Only very bad people and some slightly less people. After all they are all American! 😉
28:00 – I think @lloyd is referring to Guy from Midwinter Minis with his coffee ground video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iu1NdEj19A
29:50 – Did I infect Lloyd with punsyndrom?
33:00 – You lot are talking about Star Wars and nobody mentions the downed YR-1300 in @graystoak background? HERESY! Show the project! We need to know!
37:00 – Sudden loss of audio…. who’s connection went out?
41:00 – ZBrush looks interesting but highly intimidating… also very expensive… had a look at the pricing oO
42:23 – @avernos awakens during 3D print talk for a short crusade joke XD
53:45 – jungle boot camp…. somehow this reminds me of Mel (The Terrain Tutor) and that it has been awefully quite around him.
56:17 – outch. I just hope this is bad timing. (Seriously, I’m worried about Mel. He’s been quiet for a very long time)
1:04:00 – THERE IS NO HEROQUEST!
1:15:00 – insuring my minis… no, not happening. If something where to happen to it, it’ll be a relief in reducing the pile of shame. Also I can start painting again… or just walk away from the hobby 😉
1:18:00 – an auction… for the good things. Profits go to something positive and hobby related. Send minis to OTT so they can do the auction, presentation and sending the winnings of.
@sundancer Your far too organised for a Sunday morning
No I’m not! I’m my usual self!
Mel’s been having a rough time of late. If you want, you can find more details in the updates over on the KS for his book. Obviously, we all hope things continue to improve for him but…yeah.
Just realized that is the first KS I’m glad I backed because of the difficulties it has run into, rather than despite said difficulties.
I do read the updates but those are only far and between… Mel used to be much more present with his weekly shows. I just hope he’s ok and comes back again.
Good spot sundancer! I will be uploading a small project on that soon…
Midwinter Minis – think you right @sundancer
33:00 I can’t see anything in the background, it’s a miracle I can see the foreground
@sundancer I’ve started a project on the ‘Stellar Envoy’ just for you!
https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1571643/
@lloyd – simply dividing number of points by three to get number of polygons doesn’t work: create a triangle with three points. Three points = 1 polygon. Now add a single point somewhere outside the triangle and join it to two of the existing points to make two triangles – now four points = 2 polygons.
But instead of putting the point outside the triangle, put it inside and join it to every other existing point. Now four points = 3 polygons.
Number of points and number of polygons are obviously related, but not in a way that you can calculate one from the other easily!
oh yeah, that’s a good POINT!
and the puns don’t just stop when the video runs out… 😉
Great show this week, thank you. On insurance for collections I had to state my collection as a separate item on our household insurance as it forms a single collection and there is a maximum sum insured for collections on my policy – probably worth looking into the small print. For some of you with big or valuable collections the maximum sum insured for contents will be worth considering too.
As to an OTT auction I’d happily be a bidder and would love to get a chance to bid on some of the special stuff you guys or the community have managed to accumulate over the years. I’d also be willing to supply a lot or two that are a bit too valuable to want to sell on fleaBay.
@warzan we can make this happen (post Covid),
Happy Sunday CoGs.
Having just seen it on FB,@lloyd should definitely get his Heroforge @dignity printed and present it to @dignity as a gift.
Is the crashed YT-1300 behind Dan ( aka @graystoak ) a 3D print or from a miniature’s company ?
No, it’s built from an old Kenner Falcon!
Blimey.
It’s a cracking looking piece sir.
Thank you. I didn’t build it, a friend of mine made it. I’m just painting it for him, otherwise I would’ve done a project by now ? I’ll try get some pictures of it up soon.
It is “easy” for a collector to put value on his collection but the insurance companies don’t have the know-how. With stamps, paintings and old cars there are enough reverence to put prices on the items. But with a lot of items you don’t have this kind of date base. Sites like Ebay are great for selling items but when they are sold others can’t check out the value of the same items because they are gone. You also need for the insurance companies an up to date inventory of your collection so they can see what you got and how much you should pay for the insurance. There is a site called the LastDodo where the community makes a catalogue for Collector’s. Here you can manage your collection and in doing so expand the catalogue whenever you add new items that aren’t in the catalogue. You can even start a catalogue area if it doesn’t exist. The languages on the site are English, German, French and Dutch. You can even put a value on the items and in doing this we can make a date base where insurance companies can have a look about prices.
Happy Sunday all, I enjoyed seeing everyone on the show today. More CoGs on in there future?
Thank for the button! I have to get a few more Lloyd and Gerry shots put up this week.
Happy Sunday!
Well, it seems that the XLBS show gets weirder and weirder. I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing……….
Don’t lie, you LOVE IT!
Yeah, it’s true. ?
Happy Sunday Chaps!
@templar007, most of the the scenery be perfect for “Blood and Valour” except 1 or 2 with corregated metal sheets in the interior.
If any one needs any guidance on valuations, please do not hesitate to contact me @ antiquevault.co.uk
At the moment gold items are my biggest seller. I was joking with @warzan before the show, that in conjunction with the Ontabletop store, “that together in an act of reverse alchemy, we can turn your gold items into gaming plastic”!
I realy enjoyed some of the “Conversational Cul de sac’s” and that might have been the best opening segment EVER!
Look after your collections guys, because in a fe years time, they might look after you!
Happy Sunday.
Enjoyed your appearance on the XLBS. Hope you join the boys again sometime in the future.
Thanks for the feedback on the trench terrain. I am building some from scratch but they won’t travel very well so I’ve been keeping my eyes open for some that will travel and survive. Hoping to get others around here into Blood and Valor.
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement @templar007. I saw the pieces at the Cavalier games show in Tonbridge 2 years ago, and it was love at first sight. I bought a load more bfore lockdown. It’s great to have a load of new scenery done, not least the jungle as well.
I’m only here because Michael forced me to watch him but I actually really enjoyed it! Good info on 3D printing and collectables. Makes you wonder what you might have tucked away in the back of your cupboard…
p.s. Can I have the files for that E.T. penis? (Asking for a friend.)
Great to see you here, now you can never leave! Woo-H-Ha-Ha!!!
Go to bed Michael.
Just a thought on top of my head @warzan …what about an auction where the money goes to some kind of charity? Like war veterans for instance. Not sure how we’d go about making sure things get shipped right. Getting everything shipped to you guys first, seems like a costly add on. But on the other hand, making sure people actually gets what they’re buying…not sure how to crack that one.
Hi @aurorainbag,
Shippng etc is not an huge problem, auctioneers have been organising it for centuries.
I suspect that there won’t be many people looking to give away their collections, thought it might be a consideration in a will, possibly? If you have any items that you wish to supply us to benefit a charity, we would be happy to take them if it happens at OTT, or in a regular auction soon?
Nice to see you’re serious about engaging the ‘Granny’ market acquiring the likes of @graystoak, i hear he scores very well in the 65-80 widows market!
@avernos, I still doubt ‘painting’ a bunch of basically robot skellies is Golden Button worthy, i use real paint 😉
Great show though, E.T. nobs aside!!!
You know full well it’s the 65-75’s bracket and I’m still not completely comfortable with you calling me ‘Dad’!
Holy f*** I won a golden button. Some very kind words there, thanks guys!
f*** yeah!
This week’s show was hilarious. Dan and Michael were brilliant on it as they both shared such interesting topics.
As for insurance, I’m going to go sourpuss on this: you’re probably better off putting away some money in a savings’ account on a monthly basis (apart from the standard and obligitory 3rd party fire and theft). My parents lost their house in a fire recently and the insurance company did their utter best to chip away as much as possible from the amount they were insured for.
That said, if you’ve already got a very expensive collection, it will take some time before you’ve covered it yourself.
Hope your parents are doing well @lonkelo
Our house was smoke damaged the very first day the wife and I moved in when the adjoining house was gutted by a fire overnight.
That was stressfully enough, I’m glad we didn’t lose a whole house.
Mostly our insurance company was quite good to deal with but we weren’t in need of replacing all our items, as they arrived with us that same day. I would imagine it might have been a different experience had I called them and said we lost everything.
They are doing fairly well, thanks 🙂 (considering the circumstances, of course).
I’m happy to hear your experience was much better. What are the chances of that happening the day you move in!?
Maybe different companies/people/countries or the position of the moon and Saturn could be factors here as well. I don’t know…
Now you tell me!!!! all the stuff I’ve offloaded on BoW!!! balls…………….. 😉
sucks to be you @buggeroff 🙂