Cult Of Games XLBS: Not Enough Space To Hobby?!
November 1, 2020 by warzan
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HAPPY SUNDAY!!!!
I had settled myself with the idea of not seeing @warzan here on XLBS because he wasn’t on front stage and I figured he had been busy with his presentation. Imagine my surprise, when I saw all four of you there, like it was old times.
What a great way to end the week and start the new one!!
Happy Sunday!
To BoW
Where can I get my COG hat… I don’t see it in your store and bit.ly doesn’t seem to have it
Warren has it.. I want one!
And please gives us options in head things :
– tricorn
– fez
– standard
that’d be neat.
Happy Sunday!
I used to have more space to do hobby before it got filled with boxes and bags full of hobby stuff generally known as ‘the backlog’.
Damn – I’m old enough to remember that NTNON sketches first airing!
Nice Community work and well deserved buttons!
Gorka’s very effective monochrome models with splashes of colour for a low light effect are of particular interest. I was planning to do something similar for my Moonstone models but with lower saturation pastels except for anything sourcelit.
Sorastro’s latest video, the KDM Phoenix, has some great base work with a glowing pool as a sourcelight onto the lower parts of the model… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O272Lk12p1o
Happy Sunday CoGs.
Rip Sean Connery.
Justin for French Indian Wars have a look at Galloping Major’s range.
@brennon For ECW my first port 9f call ifI wanted to go 28mm woukdbe Bicorne miniatures
https://www.bicorne.net/acatalog/English-Civil-War.html
For a handy painting guide try
https://www.baccus6mm.com/PaintingGuides/ECW/
Cheers thanks – will take a look.
Never tried this myself, but how about a Russian doll “stackable” system for terrain. Could have multiple towers stored within the same door print.
@warzan the shit monster is a ‘Roper’ although ‘shit monster’ pretty much covers it ?
I thought it was a D&D Yochlol,but yeah,shit monster works.
Lol xlbs time.
The man who would be king is a great film.
@warzan Your shit monster is a Roper from D&D
Ropers like to hang out on ceilings pretending to be stalagtites and attack unsuspecting adventurers. Could be fun to stick him upside down on the ceiling of your dungeon adding an extra element of dimensionality to the whole thing.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/roper
The snake warrior is most likely a Yuan-Ti
@warzan FYI https://ospreypublishing.com/the-men-who-would-be-kings
That Dan Mersey gets everywhere 🙂
On a more helpful note Dan’s also wrote a system-agnostic guide to wargaming the Zulu wars. It’s a terrific introduction.
It’s the XLBS SHOW…………..Happy Sunday fellow CoGs!
@dignity I have the ‘Muskets and Tomahawks 2.0’ rules and they are great for French and Indian Wars. Also, I recommend ‘BLACK POWDER: A Dark and Bloody Ground’, good stuff in there as well.
As far as space for this hobby…………….
Yes, it does take up a lot of space. That is why my wife and I decided to upgrade to a much larger house. She was tired of me trying to make do with too little space and only the basement for keeping my hobby in. She was also tired of my having to fight spiders all time! I now have three rooms and the basement for doing hobby work. The basement remains my ‘Hobby LAB’. The BoW Studio/Game Room is a space that my wife enjoys just about as much as myself. She walks into it and looks around and says, “Hey they have such-in-such on their shelves, why don’t we have that too?” That’s almost like being sent on a quest! 🙂
Have you seen the story about the tunnel exit on the head of the Sphinx @warzan
Happy Sunday… Oh the irony that @warzan mentioned A Connery film the weekend that he passed. The Man who would be king is such a good film.
happy sunday
really liked the idea of creating a diorama for a window closet.
another hobby idea for the future, when ikea opens again after the lock down ?.
??? ? ?
I don’t think this is the right sabot? Lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3sx5er/m1_abrams_firing_a_sabot_round/
More great button winner’s.
We are like goldfish the pile of shame/models will grow until theirs no room for more @warzan
In the loft @lloyd hight ground?
You need to find the studs in the wall @warzan
What about folding paisting table’s guy’s?
The war cry of a horder you’ll never know when you’ll need that.
For Storage and displaying things you don’t have enough room . I like to collect the boxes for the art on the front like the old 60s and 70s Airfix. When I was younger to save space I cut the boxes to pieces and glued the part that I wanted on paper and put them in binders. Later I bought the boxes again because as a collector you want all the different boxes which can have a different backside, number, writing, logo or front. The collection you can see on http://www.thelastdodo.nl which is a site were collectors can manage their collection. Because it takes much space this is the only way I can look at my collection because I put them in cardboard boxes and have them stored in the attic. You briefly talked about now a days with computer games is easy because you can download the game and don’t need so much space but I don’t agree with that because if you download a game you can’t share the game with friends. With Nintendo, Playstation and Microsoft you need a account with password en username when you download it is for that account and you also can’t sell the game. The same problem can arise with downloading books of the internet. There are companies who have been to court and won about selling downloaded books if you didn’t want them no more. That’s why I still buy the paperback instead of the Ebook and also because that I don’t think that the price between a hard copie and ebook are that great. A hard copie needs to be printed and put together and be stored and then be handled when sold. With Osprey the difference is 3.20 pond with a new book.
So I still buy hard copie books and games which also take up space.
A fabulous show guy’s
I take it Gerry was working on the millennium falcon?
10 People? 52? Hm? Clarification please! @dignity
@dignity my friend the French and Indian War is a fascinating time period, definitely feel free to hit me up about minis/games/documentaries. Easily one of my favourite periods to wargame. I’ve done a review of the latest edition of Muskets and Tomahawks on my Channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9-P1ZWtyGQ&ab_channel=AnotherHistorianWargamer
I also submitted an article through the submit a story tab thingy on the new edition.
@warzan a fantastic period. Your army of white clad men in Fez’s will look splendid. Barbed wire had just been invented, the world is less than half a decade away from smokeless powder and Britain would be back two years later to save the Egyptians after they screw everything up.
Warren you absolutely must have a Colonel Burnaby, THE Victorian hero, balloonist, adventurer, soldier, gentleman and absolute madman clearing trenches solo with his double barrel shotgun. He wanted to go to Egypt but he was too busy being the first man to fly a Gas balloon over the Channel, he’d fit in great for a “What if” game. He died 3 years after the Egyptian Campaign after he was speared in the throat in the Sudan at Abu Klea.
I love these ideas!!!!!
If you need anything just ping me on Discord, 3D Prints, historical advice or anything else just let me know
I will for sure mate!
Sorry to rain on your witch bonfire but those found guilty of witchcraft were always or almost always hanged in England. Certainly the Pendle Witches were.
Yes. Burning was for heretics – so Catholics burned the Protestants and vice versa in the Tudor period. Witchcraft was apostasy and/or blasphemy rather than heresy and this was a crime punishable by hanging, or non-capital punishments. James VI (I of Scotland) was absolutely obsessed with the subject.
Indeed. It was a local magistrate brown-nosing James (VI/I) that did for those folk on Pendle.
I got around the storage space issue by converting the garage to a hobby room. Prior to that I had a. small bedroom in the house but it was too small plus the other half wanted the room back as a guest room.
We weren’t really using the garage other than to store crap. So I had a good excuse to do a clear out of that crap which went down well with the missus.
I know have a large room though I’m currently doing a slight clear out of stuff I’ll never use or play. To make room for stuff I will play lol.
“Does This Hobby Take Up Too Much Space?” – Yes.
“How do you deal with it?” – every time something shiny and new comes along I look a the space I have not left and how much “disposable income”[1] I do not have and then I don’t buy it. It is really that sad and simple.
[1] Disposable income sound so “throw away money”. So @horati0nosebl0wer and I coined the term “VRHI – variable return happiness investment” in an email exchange.
Morning all, I store my armies on a Besta with 7 glass shelves. 7 allows enough room for the Bloodthirsters, Magnus’s and Valkyries of this world.
Initially I didn’t have a frontage on it but after the poor things got coated in dust I bought a 3mm plastic sheet and attached it with thin but wide magnets on the front to hold it on. It’s not perfect, but it’s radically cut down on dust ingress.
In an ideal world Ikea would make a full height glass door for the Besta, but they don’t. Anyway, just my 2p.
The magnetized front is a genius idea – I’m gonna look into that!
Perspex an piano hinges could be worth checking out Guys? @warzan
The wife let me out of storage to see this.
If @dignity was serious about not having seen ” The Last Mohican ” he should make time and give it a watch.
Wow, thank you for the Golden Button!
Always love to see the golden buttons… never thought one would come my way. A cracking surprise on a Sunday evening to round off the weekend.
Stellar work on the other buttons to be featured between
Happy Sunday. I enjoyed this one, nice to see our Gerry getting a bit of time off too
Storage is an issue. I hope to renovate the little attic I have into a gaming room. My wife’s thankfully very supportive about my passions. She enjoys watching me paint. I have set up a little painting area in the living room, funnily enough build into one of the Ikea closets Warren mentioned. I can close it when we have a party or small kids over and my own gobbo’s have been taught from a young age not to touch anything on it. I also have one of those very closets next to it with glass doors and my best work on display.
For a gaming table, years ago I build 2 4×4 foot tables. I can detach the legs and store them in a big box in the shed. It’s a bit time consuming to set up, especially these days since all my scenery is in the attic.
It served me for many years though, and for a long while was the only place I could regularly get a good battle done.I’m not extremely skilled at carpenty, but I design and build it myself. It still takes up quite some space in the shed.
When I have the money and the time I hope to get my gaming room. Wont be big, but it’ll be mine. There will always remain problems. I have no place to permanently set up my airbrush and I hope I’ll find a place for my proxxon hot wire table.
I’m lucky enough to have a double garage and one half was converted to a room by the previous owner, and that’s now my hobby room.
I have a painting desk plus a four foot square gaming table, a kallax and plenty of shelves, but I’m still running out of space
@dignity The Last of the Mohican’s has been made as a movie several times. The best one is probably the Daniel Day Lewis version. A brilliant story, amazing cast and filmed in some of the most beautiful country in the world. It’ll give you a real feel for the era. And yes, it’s set in the French and Indian War, part of the larger Seven Years War, sometimes referred to as World War Zero, as fighting did occur all over the world between multiple colonial powers but primarily France and Great Britain.
Studio Tomahawk’s rules Muskets & Tomahawks is perfect for this period. It’s the general rule set and the Redcoats and Tomahawks book is the specific book for the period. Redcoats and Tomahawks covers the French and Indian War (1754-1763), the American Revolution (1775-1783) and the War of 1812 (1812-1815).
In the French and Indian War you have British and French regulars, Rogers Rangers ( a British provincial regiment made of frontiersmen), Canadian fur trappers, French Marines and of course Indians on both sides. And you can have a pure Indian force. So many possibilities.
There are a number of model ranges but Northstar carries specific starter sets for Muskets and Tomahawks.
Codes…Sorry not able to do this one even when explained, I’ve not been able to do 1 of these yet lol.
Justin, sorry Looking like the Old Wolf lol.
Warren.. Carry on film. Brilliant. Wabble of Woudy Webels.
Warzen talking about history in Newcastle, and something completely different on Westgate Road are main road heading west out of Newcastle there is a sign. About Three Vampires who lived here about Roman Times.
Warren, no space at home, we start a game and i have to have both sides so i can play myself. but we play 10-15 different types of war games in a year 3 to 7 campaign weeks and every year is different, so 100 armies. lol Kick the wife out live by your self in a multi room all by your self.
The issue of housing prices was brought up and its quite relevant to here in the US. Where I’m at rent for apartments are ungodly high, though it is a question for how much longer. I’ve given up on owning a home as I’ve been in shit jobs and realistically unable to think of places that I’d be able to remain with issues of employment (exacerbated by The Rona). I’m lucky enough to have a roof over my head right now and I’m looking at tiny homes that aren’t much more in size than what @laughingboy or @skaramunga have for their hobby spaces. Living and relaxing in an honest gaming workshop with few other things, like a small kitchen and bathroom (bedding would hide away), is realistically what would be grand.
Downsizing and minimizing one’s footprint to the most important items that you enjoy/interact with would be the pinnacle of hobby in the Japanese sense of utility and wabisabi. Getting creative with limited space and maximizing efficiency is the present evolution in thought that we as a community address. As it was mentioned we as physically interactive gamers/hobbyists end up getting dogged by the fact that we deal with physical objects/media which the digital world just needs more memory/processing to handle. I think that the present minis agnostic systems are a great way to work around that as people can draw down on what they buy/store between games. The solo adventure AI mechanic systems also give the external feedback that we as gamers lack as well as allows us avoiding Doritos and Mt. Dew (for some of us).
General display is the bugbear as more attention will be paid to hobby. We’ve all been stuck indoors for a while with brushes slapping paint and it might be the impetus to consider the art of detailed effort. Less 3 color low tier paint-jobs and more creation of ‘masterpieces’ that we think more of in time spent. I’ve mentioned it to @sundancer a bit in jest when we bantered about money spent and the potential wrath of significant others to the dub this all the VRHI – variable return happiness investment. Here’s the best bit from that thread in advice from a hypothetical investment advisor …
”Yes, Bob, its all a go with your VRHI account. All you need to do is make some space for your accumulated physical assets and liabilities in order to make sure its all good for tax season. Believe me, the worst auditors of my clientele you can think of are their significant others. As your financial advisor I suggest that you be sure to give only vague answers when questioned about incurred cost and how much space you have for your hobby. Never try and haggle the value of your investments with hard numbers unless you can show significant sales price reduction at time of purchase with exceptional utility in your area of interest. You would not believe the trouble I’ve had after giving that advice to men who build model ships and women who knit clothing for cats”
@lloyd as you complained about getting no pointers for the Scottish War of Independence, have a look at http://www.ebobminiatures.com/medieval—rebellion.html
There’s a few clansman and pikemen, but check out the models for Wallace and the Bruce in particular. There’s also a set of rules for the period too.
FINALLY a link to something!
Will go have a look-see 🙂 @scribbs
Late late to the watch!! Hope all had a cracking weekend. Great to see Justin back on the weekenders again!
Weird storage solution suggestion. I use a couple of those light weight/temporary greenhouses with clear plastic covers.
Happy Sunday.. i solved my hobby space quite easily, i kicked the kids out as as they were old enough and nicked one of there bedrooms……simples..
Gotta say the Weekender is always so much better when it contains a wild Justin. Just don’t tell him I said that.
For the board game storage I used this:
https://www.shelvingsystem.co.uk/
Its not cheap but it looks nice, has a choice of depths and you can adjust the shelve heights to suit what you put on them.
I have Billys in my entire game room and they take minis, board games and wargames. They also come in Blood God red.
So much good stuff in this one.
I have a wall of IKEA Hemnes bookcases with doors. The solid wood works better in the basement (it fights any damp better than the particle board) Now to get everything set up the way I want and get more shelves and find some quality glass shelves also.