Fallout Unboxing: Wasteland Warfare
August 28, 2018 by johnlyons
Seasoned Fallout fans John and Justin show us what we're getting in Modiphius' new tabletop skirmish game Fallout: Wasteland Warfare.
The PVC models may have some warping but we have a one-mini-two-cups solution! Check out the video below for an idea of how to fix the models...
...and let us know how you've been doing in your wasteland adventures.
Have you had a chance to play in the wasteland?
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Soft detail, big gaps to fill, bends to sort, creased paper game mats…not seeing the quality in the figures to match the other components.
I’ve seen the resin miniatures and they are much better, but as for the pvc I’m am not a fan at all. I agree with Justin and John that they are very disappointing.
As for the gameplay, I did manage to get a demo game at last years Colours Show at the Newbury racecourse. It was still in its beta form at the time, but I did enjoy the dynamics of the game. I think they have tried to replicate the best they can the video game. I’m very keen to try out the A.I controlled rules for the enemy / world to see what they are like.
Let’s hope they (modiphius) will be able to make a second round of PVC starter kits with better quality…
With the red rocket set a neoprene version is included. You should have known that as you did a little unboxing of it at I think it was UK Games Expo, during the live streams.
I’m still so happy I went for the resin starter set even though it hasn’t arrived yet. Can’t wait for it though.
@johnlyons when I was talking to @aurorainbag about the warped plastics in her set I heard reports of people not being able to bend them with hot water. Depending on the PVC used it’s far more resistant to heat than the plastics used in conventional miniature production, so I did not find this odd. You were easily able to straighten the legs and so will with the weapons, but what about the bases? They contain a lot more material, will it work just as well. If it does then the people I have been talking to trying to fix their PVC mini’s were just incompetent in the use of warm water. Which to be fair could be an option.
The bases are something I have yet to try in hot water. I would imagine it is possible so long as you don’t immerse the character itself too and end up distorting or even breaking it. Especially if longer exposure to the heat is needed for the thicker base material.
You can try an egg cup in the mug for the stand to limit the amount of the figure is in the hot water @johnlyons
if more heat is required to straighten thicker pieces out a hair drier will do the job, just be careful not to burn your fingers ^^
Definitely picking up the resin stuff when i pull the trigger on this,the PVC is really disappointing.
I have to agree with John, for a starter set having them assembled is a must, not everyone is a gamer or hobbiest and this is aiming to pull in people who are used to the IP. Mantic went through the same thing with the walking dead, but the PVC miniatures they use is a much higher quality. However they went through the pain of lower quality PVC with the original Dreadball and Deadzone, also a lot of board game players complained about broken miniatures because they weren’t pre assembled. It may make things harder, but for a starter set I think you have to go that way.
For a board game, yes assembled miniatures are a must but this wants to be a miniature game. Also AFAIK the resin come in multipart. They should have just let everything be in parts like SW:Legion is.
I like the monster’s in the box.
I agree with Justin, these are board game quality(just). their was no detail on any of the models. this looks like a 80’s throw back. the game play must be the best in the world to bring this game back to days standard.
Fist time i seen these two guys look into a open box….and scared to pick up the figs..!!!
@johnlyons You do not need to hope…its a fact that only the base set will be in PVC. Everything else will be Resin.
More important: This Product…as you said at the end…is not targeted at the veteran minis gamer waiting for years for this to happen…its for Fallout video game fans that have never had contact with our hobby. For them the “quality” issue is not there. This is a pre-assembled quick start and cheaper then resin…and those are the points that count for non-hobbyists.
For us there is everything in this box and every expansion in a resin version. Comparison pics are shown on the dev blog (nr. 12) on mödiphius homepage.
https://www.modiphius.com/development-blog.html
And I am really looking forward for those minis to be reviewed. The pictures mödiphius released have me worry about the fit of the resin and the moldlines. I really hope they are good quality in the end!!!
P.S. The alien is the pre-order bonus for retail orders. On the mödiphius homepage it was a Nuka-Cola Girl minis with cards for pre-order.
Its only £9.99 for the resin extra too…!!!
Ummm no it’s not… if you want the deathclaw you have to pay extra for that… it’s $40 to upgrade to resin with the deathclaw. Not sure what that is in £
The comments on the PvC seem fair based on the evidence. The gameplay I’ve experienced from demos is very good indeed, and I’m expecting the resin starter any day now so I’ll be posting pics of the painted resins as they come off the production line. Given all bar the pvc starter set will be resin models, I am not overly worried about the miniatures in general. Some of the 3D renders for upcoming releases look epic so I’m going to be investing a lot of time into this game for the foreseeable future!
I opened my PVC starter box up last night and held off on watching this before making my own opinion. I agree with some points, disagree with others. Honestly I have some reservations about how this video is presented and would like to talk about that. I’ll preface this by saying that this the first Modiphius product I have ever bought, so I feel no brand loyalty towards them as a company or whatever.
I agree that there are some issues with this set, there is warping with the PVC minis including on the bases, but I have gone through my set with a mug of hot water and fixed pretty much all of it including on the bases. I have taken a bunch of pictures and will be starting a project log soon and will be posting them there. I completely agree with John that the design of the box tray is an issue and exacerbating the warping issue – the spaces are just that bit too tight.
More notably, the detail. Given that these are PVC minis rather than hard plastic or resin, a drop off in detail is to be expected. Personally they are about the standard I was expecting, while hoping to be surprised. This is the reason why Modiphius have been offering resin options of this same set from day 1 – the resin was always going to be superior and they have gone to great lengths to communicate that and have shown several side by side comparisons in recent months. I feel that the video doesn’t give them enough credit for that or communicate that the rest of the range is resin.
Which is my next point – I don’t think enough research was done on the product before putting out what is effectively a review. This starter set is the one and only product in the range that is being made in plastic of any sort, everything else is resin and that is important information for anyone considering jumping in to know. These PVC minis are not the standard by which to judge the rest of the range! I feel strongly that BoW should make an effort to do at least one unboxing with resin minis ASAP to give a balanced perspective.
Another point on research was discussion of the paper mat where Justin commented that he hoped someday to see a neoprene version – while it already exists in the Red Rocket scenery set! The paper mat in the starter is a copy of that same one which Modiphius added as a basic extra. Omitting details like that undersells the range and makes it look a bit half-arsed. I appreciate that there are limits to what one person can know about all of the things, but the video felt like a box magically appeared at BoW and the video was recorded after a quick 5 minute rummage through with little knowledge of context.
I don’t think that the product was given fair consideration for what it is, rather than what the guys assumed it was going to be. The PVC set is intended but a lower cost starter to get people gaming, while the high-end painters are catered to with the resin upgrade. Personally, I think the PVC is going to be fine for most of us mere mortals and the differences won’t be obvious after a 3 colours up paint job on the table.
I have written a lot and want to end constructive. I am glad to hear BoW being more willing to make the more negative observations on products rather than just ignoring the elephant in the room and not talking about the less great moments of the hobby. However, I think efforts must be made to make those comments from an informed position. In this case I would have loved to see the resin unboxed side by side for comparison. Then you could have made the recommendation to buy the upgraded resin if it meets your expectations.
Thanks for reading all that, I hope it comes across as I intended!
Come on, man. That power armor is very obviously mid-stride and not “meant to be flat.” Heel to toe. There’s enough concerns over the PVC that there’s no need to make stuff up… and we all know the PVC wasn’t for the wargamers.
Kind of weird that big fans of the IP are unaware of details concerning upcoming resin, mats, and so on. It’s barely on my radar compared to most fans and even I know the answers to most of those questions.