Weekender: 4 New Space Marine Codexes, 3 Too Many for Warhammer 40K?
September 18, 2020 by avernos
Today on the OnTableTop Weekender! Games Workshop has released a ton of information for Warhammer 40,000, including a wealth of new minis for the Space Marines and to help people use their 98 units of the Adeptus Astartes four of the first six Codex releases this year will be Space Marines. Are we reaching a point where 40K is only a game for Powered-Armoured Armies? PLUS we check out some stunning Feudal Japanese in our Indie of the Week and a fifty-meter long Starship in the Kickstarters. (if scaled from 28mm to real life)
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Indie Of The Week! Steel Fist Miniatures - 26:42
We browse through a select time period as Steel Fist Miniatures show off some fantastic feudal forces in both Europe and Japan.
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Tabletop Gaming News - 39:55
Here is some of the wargaming, tabletop and miniatures news this week which caught our eye and made us go "ooooh!"
- Warhammer 40K Codex - Six codices in only three months, too many too soon?
- Warhammer 40K Adeptus Astartes recruits - More options for Primaris as the old marines are rendered obselete
- Warhammer 40K Necron Tomb Worlds Open - The dynasty awakens squid Necrons
- Retell Lord of the Rings your way - A must-have companion for Middle-Earth players
- Gamma Wolves Mecha Combat - Ash Barker picks a new apocalypse to inflict on the Earth
- Les Grognards Bring the Big Guns - Six guns and a baguette!
- Mantic Games Launch an Armada - Black Seas is revisited and revised for the world of Pannithor
Let us know if something from this week made you "oooh!" and if we missed anything!
Tabletop Gaming Kickstarters - 1:27:53
See what you make of this Kickstarter we've picked out from this week on the funding platform...
- Starship V Sleipnir - Take to the stars with a massive 3D Printed Rocket Ship
- Twisted Monstrous Marvels - Demented Monsters for a Twisted Game
Let us know if you'll be checking out these projects in the comments down below. Make sure to check out all of this tabletop goodness and have a great weekend of gaming fun.
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Mint choc chip is my favourite.
Happy weekender guys. Heck of a thing when I genuinely enjoy looking at different cobblestones online of a Friday evening must be the diplodonticus genes in me. Great show guys ???
Finally 95000 subscribers.
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Hope you get the 100k soon.
Now I have to check if I win the colonel. 🙂
Nice to see Steel Fist Miniatures getting featured. I’ve got a few of their samurai and ashigaru awaiting to be painted. Their Italian Wars range is stunning as well, and at some stage there might be some English Civil War stuff too, as I believe they ran a KS for a range a little while ago.
Yay the weekender time.
Those steel fist minis are really nice They have a Mark Copplestone Grenadier Human fantasy army vibe to them
Johnstone just down from Paisley ?
Good to see warren cobbling a good set of figures together.
don’t forget the 5 in a pack set warren.
politicians ???
It’s the Weekend!!
It’s almost as though GW great the churn of codexes as a renewable cash cow in an age where many games companies allow their players access to the unit data in more useful forms. Surprised you felt it was even worth asking the question…
the flayed ones are Freddy an Edwards relatives?
I hear what your saying about the Space Marine Codex cover and you’re not wrong, but i don’t dislike it as such and there’s something i like about it’s understatedness. Mostly though, once again, i find myself looking at an illustration of a (Primaris) Space Marine and wishing that the miniatures were proportioned and scaled more like the illustration, which seems to me to better represent the fiction.
do you guys thing GW are reinterested in LotR because of the Silmarillion film?
Film? There is the Amazon Prime series they are filming down here in New Zealand.
Good stuff.
Peter Jackson was in talks for the Silmarillion film.
Since I live in NZ, I’m sure I would of heard about this if it were going ahead. I think it is more wishful thinking on someone’s part.
I don’t think Peter Jackson would do it after The Hobbit trilogy. He has taken a bit of a back seat since then. The only things he has “directed” are 2 documentaries, both based on historical footage.
I think he got burnt out on The Hobbit films as he was only supposed to be a producer on those, but took up the directorial reigns when GDT bailed on them…And he may have only done that for contractual reasons.
this is the info im thinking of @hobbyhub which the show could be following.
https://silmar.fandom.com/wiki/The_Silmarillion_(The_Film_Trilogy)_Wiki
Strange, I was reading that before I replied to you… I think you need to read further down the page…where it starts:
‘Recently, in a press conference, Peter Jackson shed a light as to why he is no longer going to adapt any other Tolkien movies; mainly it’s because of legal reasons:
“The Tolkien estate owns the writings of Professor Tolkien – The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were sold by Professor Tolkien in the late Sixties, the film rights, but they are the only two works of his that have been sold. So without the cooperation of the Tolkien estate, there can’t be more films.”‘
It goes on a bit more.
yup rereading it hope the show is good.
The film’s didn’t go down well with the Tolkien family as they got no royalties as the film rights had been sold many years earlier by JRR Tolkien to fund university for his children if I remember rightly, but the sales of the books would have gone up exponentially because of the film’s and they would have got royalties from book sales.
Too block more royalties by not selling the other works seems counter productive bearing in mind they’ll get millions from the sale of the film rights.
Each to their own I suppose.
Perhaps money wasn’t their motivation, they could have enough from the book sales.
I think they got some (all?) from the Amazon deal.
J.R.R’s son Christopher didn’t like Jackson’s adaptations, possibly because he wasn’t consulted. Since he was heavily involved in the publication of ‘The Silmarillion’, that could cause it to be off limits.
Jackson didn’t actually need to consult anyone from the family, as the rights were sold decades earlier, which led to the ill-fated animated version by Bakshi.
I was initially on the committee of the Tolkien Society 2005 LOTR 50th anniversary event, and heard then that the family didn’t like the film’s, and I said the same thing at that time, i.e. the film’s will spark a resurgence in book sales, so every cloud etc.
I don’t particularly like the bits added or changed for the film’s, i.e. Arwen not Glorfindel etc., but on the whole the LOTR film’s were absolutely exceptional, with the Hobbit ones slightly less so in my opinion
I knew Jackson didn’t need to from a contract point of view.
That doesn’t mean that the estate or Chris wasn’t salty or upset about not being involved, monetarily or otherwise.
It is interesting to read what the restrictions are for the new Amazon series.
Gerry not know something never @lloyd
that expanse? ship looks fantastic
a fab show guys.
It’s the Weekender! ??i
The Conquest Para Bellum Slow Grow League is our main focus here. Lots of clipping and shifting of miniatures boxes on our studio table. I think the postman is begining to think I’m opening a shop or attempting to corner the market on these minis. @lloyd I do like the idea of tartans. Not sure I can pull that off but I may experiment a little. ??
I too bought a bag of 200 wine corks……. about a year ago. ….. works the charm for painting. But I still find myself buying the GW mini holders for painting and the new Redgrassgames ergonomic painting handle with changeable tops. Why, because a certain Internationally Acllamed Hobby IPTV Channel keeps telling me about this really cool stuff and I feel compelled, (and I’m a sucker for anything that makes painting go faster or easier).
I have to agree about the 9th Edition Space Marines book looking a bit less grand.
Love the Necrons Silent King miniature and the Chronomancer. Very nice!
The ‘Starship V – Sleipnir, Crew Miniatures and Deck Designer’ has really cought my eye. That could really come in handy for a SciFi RPG I play. Sooo tempted.
@warzan Have you considered using a green stuff world roller and their cutters for your cobble stone bases? #buymerch
Some lovely people even did a video tutorial on how to use them.
The issue I currently run into mate is time 🙂 (and a little bit of a desire to improve my 3D printing skills and experience)
But time-wise, I’m able to sit with a pair of calipers for a couple of hours and text and experiment with how the bases would work etc. Yes, I then have a process of finding out the best way to print the object (this took 3 attempts.
But… and here is the clincher, I can now rattle out these bases unattended, I’m not starting from scratch with a lump of greenstuff and a roller each time. (Now they have their benefits too as everything can have a unique look etc – but when time is a killer – this has been a good option for me 🙂
Suppose once you’ve perfected it you can just click a button and hey presto….bases galore.
As a rank and flank game armies might get quite big so might save even more time in the future.
Damn it Warren you’re pushing me closer to getting a 3D printer myself!
I’m actually originally from Lockerbie, which is in Annandale and about 7 miles away from Johnstone Bridge (a village named after them). They were one of the most powerful reiver families in the area and were bascially a bunch of really nasty buggers. Look into their feuds with the Moffats and the Maxwells, who were both also a bunch of really nasty buggers.
What I’m getting from this is that if a Family made a name for themselves, it’s generally because somewhere down the tree they were Really Nasty Buggers…..
Among Scotish clans that was generally the case, yes. With the Johnstones one example in particular sticks in my mind. They locked a good few of the Moffats in a church then set it on fire.
I live for the weekender lol. Sat here in my wee workshop in the kitchen painting, chilling and watching the show. Can’t wait for the new space wolves dex.
great show guys. At first I thought this was the XLBS. Maybe Warren has done this so the rest of the team can show of their hobby on XLBS? ? On Warren’s army bases, is that the true meaning climbing up the walls.?
Another cracking show guys
@warzan re your new bases, have you thought about painting them first, and then do the mortar filler part, as would then be a great contrast of the sand colour against the flagstones…
Also, if you don’t want those earlier iterations, I’d be happy to take them off your hands, all in the name of recyclablility of course ?
Is “I’ve got a bag of corks” the new way of saying “I’ve got a drinking problem”?
Lol.
it’s only a drinking problem if you can’t get a new bottle 😉
Happy weekend everyone
Sleipner is a damn sexy ship!
Oh I have a bag of corks somewhere, I should dig it out and use it for paint holders!
I a huge space marine fan, they are my main faction, and i always look forward to seeing what new Marines come out…..But i do play other armies, and I am at the point where i would rather new models come out for the other factions. I would love some new Imperial Guard….even if all they did was just update the sculps.
I understand that marines are GW’s big sellers, so it makes sense to focus more on expanding that range….but maybe if they supported the other factions more, then maybe they would start selling more of them?
As for the new artwork style for 40k, im still undecided, some bits i think look good, but then some, like the cover of the Marine codex, dont quite hit the spot for me.
Terrific show as ever, have a great weekend guys!
I think part of the issue with the Space marines is that codex came out in August of last year, being the second one for 8th edition. The original 8th ed codex came out in July of 2017.
So in the last 4 years, including this one, there hasn’t been a Codex: Space Marines release in just one of them.
And there were the Supplements that were released last year, and GW didn’t seem to release all of those that initially had plans for, if memory serves.
Could be why @warzan and others think they see a lot of Space Marine releases.
@warzan If you like the idea of paintracks using for cork, there are cork boards sold by shiftinglands, they even have a cork spinner!
https://shop.shiftinglands.com/22-painting-tools
Great show guys, thanks. I never liked the previous SM book cover. Could you ever paint that SM? I couldn’t. The new cover is more reachable for the younger, newer to the hobby; at least I think so. BTW, why are you all “Badgering” Ben? 🙂
I have to agree about the Space Marines… it feels like at the end of 8th we got nothing but updates for the different legion chapters. Now we have 9th and they are starting with Space Marine codex supplements….
It feels like games are going to become nothing but “practice exercises” as everyone is going to end up playing Space Marines and there’s going to not enough other armies being fielded as every gravitates towards to new and shiny toys.
See, my feeling is that they are pushing the Astartes Codex supplements (and Death Guard) out ASAP to establish a baseline that other forces books can be measured against. And am I alone in remembering the old 3rd Edition Codex supplements? This feels rather like that but this time being done PROPERLY, with all of the fluff and flavour that was missing from those slimline books. And honestly I fully expect the Space Wolf and Deathwatch books at least to have a list of units you can or can’t take, probably the Dark Angel one as well given all three Chapters have units that specifically replace options from the core Astartes Codex…
hahahaha oh fuck, you’re serious!
Eh, I’m an optimist (I’ve also spent four days off sick doped up on painkillers & other meds – this may have had an impact)
I mean admittedly we are in the situation now where it has been barely a year since the LAST Codex Space marines, and the supplementary First Founding Codices….
And GW didn’t release all of those supplements that they indicated they would… Did they get converted to Psychic Awakening entries?
I’m half-kidding, it’s understandable that they’ll do supplementary codices for the popular chapters but I can’t understand why they made a big deal that they were in the space marine codex and then rushed out to do 3 more. If the info is in the main book to tide people over then at least give them a bit of a break and throw another army a bone. It just baffles me.
Felt like it was a show about games I bought and never played… but revised versions.
Gamma Wolves reminds me of Citytech that I bought decades ago, yet never played.
And Armada reminds me of Dreadfleet which I painted, but also never played.
I will probably pick up Quest of the Ringbearer too.
Agree with Warren, too much Marines but i do have a Marine Company but still, would be nice to see something else. I think 2021 will be Orks and Eldar, 2022 will be Imperial Guard and Dwarfs, 2023 will be Tau and Tyranids. Would like to see what others think.
additional…..remember Space Marines are the one that you compare everything to and everyone is familiar with so not surprised that this was they way they did things.
“Are we reaching a point where 40K is only a game for Powered-Armoured Armies?”
No, you are not “reaching” that point. That point was passed just prior to 8th Ed. when GW admitted that the story of the 41st Millennium was about the Imperium and Chaos and everything else was just window dressing.
The Naval game looks pretty.
I think GW is going overboard on books in general regardless of the system. This stupidity with cards is even worse. If you have a brand new edition and you need multiple books to play it, there’s a problem. What they have done with Necromunda is equally as stupid.
And then there’s the cards. Why those aren’t print on demand is beyond me. I’m waiting for them to transition to game specific dice for all their games too. When they did it in Underworlds and KillTeam I started to worry.
lmao…. @warzan managed to sneak in some hobby time and wax lyrical about what he’s been up to and it’s not even the XLBS show lol
Happy weekend to one and all 🙂 .
40k being book heavy ( not to mention game length at ” recommended ” point levels ) are what drove me away from it as a game,but i do see why the majority of SM supplements are coming out first ( Dark Angels and Imperial Fists to come ? ) .
I am very excited for all that Wargames Atlantic has to offer,let alone the Deathfields ” not Imperial Guard ” stuff,a box of Spiders / Halflings / Persians are all on my list of things to get.
see the bargin basement splash sale on the persians 3 boxes for peanuts. It’s most of an army in one wonderful chunk
Oooh.I caught a glimpse of that on FB ( i think ),if it’s still up and running next pay day i’ll be prepping the wallet.
Another great Weekender Guys
good stuff as always,
As a person wot collects Guard I want guard to be left alone. The range isn’t new but I like it as it is. No Primaris Guard, thanks.
(A grognard writes)
Happy weekend!
I just recently finished with Warhammer. Tired. But after half a year has passed, I want to play again ) New Codex! Yummy
Everything was better in the third edition, especially the Necrons.