Weekender: Steam Watchers! Mythic’s New Game & WIN Big Bad Ork Boyz
February 28, 2020 by crew
We dive into The Weekender and this time we've got some guests in the studio. Mythic Games are with us ready to talk about their next Kickstarter, Steam Watchers.
Make sure to dive in and follow along in the comments, letting us know what you think of everything we've talked about today.
You Can Check Out The Podcast Here
Stormsunder: Heirs Of Ruin - 1:12
We have been putting out an array of videos this week on Stormsunder: Heirs Of Ruin which is on Kickstarter right now from Lazy Squire Games. We have looked at the background for the game, its mechanics and also some Let's Play content too.
Check Out The Kickstarter Here
Make sure to dive in and follow along with all of the interesting things that this game brings to the table. It's certainly got a lot of depth to it!
Indie Of The Week - 6:25
For this week, Ben has been inspired by his love of Warhammer and the Old World and shows off the multitude of options available from MOMminiaturas.
It is well worth diving into their range of options for Dwarves, Elves, Wizards, Orcs, Terrain and more. If you're looking for some epic Oldhammer looking figures then this is a webstore to explore.
Gerry Can! - 23:15
We run an awesome Cult Of Games series called Gerry Can where he shows off loads of techniques that will help you when hobbying.
This week we're letting you folks watch an episode where we explore the ways to build Blue Stuff Press Moulds. Make sure to give it a watch and consider joining the Cult Of Games.
News - 28:41
Make sure to drop your thoughts into the comments below on the news from this week...
- The High Republic - Are you tempted to snag these new Star Wars books, comics and more?
- Wolfenstein - Time to hit the tabletop and kill Nazis with this new Archon Kickstarter?
- Guardians Of The Galaxy - Do you fancy bringing these cool heroes to the tabletop for Crisis Protocol?
So, what do you like from our little selection of news options that we picked out for you?
Mythic Games - Steam Watchers - 48:20
We are sitting down with the team from Mythic Games to go through their Kickstarter for Steam Watchers, exploring the background to the game and what you need to know before the campaign launches.
Make sure to keep an eye out for their campaign which will be going live very soon as well as loads of cool videos.
Kickstarter - 1:44:27
We have two smaller Kickstarter projects for you this week...
- The Alamo - Pick up either a small part of the whole Alamo for your gaming table
- Dungeons & Designs - An array of amazing dungeons and adventures await from Cæsar Ink
Which of these two campaigns would you consider backing?
3D Printing - 1:52:47
We have no giveaway for this week but we do have two links to STL Files you can download...
Gorr The Barbarian
Necrossia Pillar Tomb
...make sure to give them a download and then perhaps show off how they came out on your home printers!
Comment To Win - Wargames Exclusive Orky Bosses - 2:12:12
This week you can Comment To Win TWO Ork Bosses which you can use in your grimdark games. You are able to win the Ork Skybasta Boss & Ork Boombasta Big Warboss which would be great ahead of the new Psychic Awakening release.
Make sure to drop some comments below and tell us your thoughts about the content we've covered in the show today. There is plenty to dive into!
Have a great weekend!
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Wot!?! The weekend already? Can’t get used to this…
Crawling into your ear hole early
You’ve been hanging out with Warren a wee bit too long…
Happy Weekend!
I cannot wait to get my hands on the Guardians of the Galaxy for ‘Marvel Crisis Protocol’. Though I have to admit I’m getting a bit…worried about their distribution of Affiliations. With Star Lord, we now have 4 “hero” affiliations (Avengers, Wakanda, Asgard and Guardians) and then 1 “villain” affiliation (Cabal) and should be getting a “Black Order” affiliation with Thanos. I know the game isn’t designed to be strictly a ‘Hero vs. Villain’ type of game, but it would be nice to have gotten maybe an A.I.M affiliation with M.O.D.O.K or Masters of Evil with Baron Zemo. But that may just be me.
I agree. the affiliations is how I think they should be aligned but have to admit….for a campaign; being able to use anyyone is real nice….too bad there was not a mechanic to “take control of another person”,,,,,either through hypnosis or mind control.. . talk about twists but can you trust a villain….
I think for me its more about just being able to have more variety with leaders.
that is weird … you’d think that for a game that has affiliations as a feature there’d be a wider selection for pure good & evil teams. Especially given that the source material is bound to have groups of villains that (try to) work together.
The way the game is designed, affiliation is achieved if more than 50% of your tabled squad is of that particular affiliation. So a team of Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Venom, and Ultron would meet the requirements for everyone to use Cap’s Avenger Leadership, though Venom and Ultron wouldn’t benefit from any Tactic Cards that say “Avenger Characters” because they aren’t listed as Avengers.
An all evil team has only ever one set of ‘evil’ tactics cards so their strategy is revealed as soon as the 3rd team member in a 5 man team is known.
An all good guy team has the option to choose between two sets of tactics cards, provided one of them has two (good) affilliations. So you even if you know all 5 team members the strategy is unknown until that part is revealed.
That kind of gives more options for good guys, unless a 100% affilliation is always preferred despite the minimal requirement.
Woohoo some 6mm love and the mini’s I painted and gave to Lloyd to prove 6mm looks cool are featured ?
I will say that painting WH Epic is in no way easy for said 6mm scale. I am amazed at the high end paint that some sites have put up for various pieces and bow out with “We’re not worthy” a la Gerry’s wayback motion.
Haven’t watched yet but 6mm is not difficult
Certainly depends what you’re used to I think
People tend to over think it and try for too much detail. Same for 2,10 and 15mm as well in my opinion
Thanks for the show. See you al on Sunday.
The phalanx was equipped with a much long spear than is portrayed in 300 so when you had 25 men deep that produced a staggered array of spears. As the spears were so long the had a weight at the end to stabilise the spear and allow the user to keep the spear level.
Yeah it was a pretty nasty hedgehog! I love seeing the phalanx working in Rome Total War etc
depends on the phalanx, the Greeks originally had a spear around 8-9 feet, by the macedonian it had come close to 18 foot long.
I have backed most of Mythics games. Steam Watchers looks interesting but not ready to back until I see some play throughs.
We will have some videos for you soon showing off how to play
Leo is REALLY into the moment at 1:07:10. Just look at how wide his eyes get and how far his fluffy hair sways as the perfect foil to Justin’s cueball, lol. Its always a good time when he gets caught up in the passion of a game.
Another good show to catch and mull over the cost of a 3D printer versus building up the quality of my airbrush kit. A Harder & Steenbeck might be the next upgrade in the future should my Sotar 20/20 fail me. So far none of my brushes have and I will see them in service as long as possible.
You cannot deny their passion for their projects for sure haha
At 33:45. Warren you put a parody in my head that I haven’t been able to shake.
“Don’t break my heart,
my achy breaky heart.
Please join the Cult of Games today.”
I’m also now sold on a 3D Printer after seeing the Elven Tower you made. So pretty!
Fantasy Thermopylae: I’d have thought Greenskins or Ratmen would make for a better replacement for the Persians because they have the horde theme going for them and would probably be more likely to use the various beasts you’re after @warzan plus it would allow you to transfer the battle from a coastal pass to an underground tunnel (I’m thinking one of the large Underways that dwarves in fantasy setting tend to have that are sort of like underground motorways connecting the various holds).
Also, you keep saying Spartans, but keep in mind that there were other Greeks at the battle and in the last stand iirc there were 1000 Thespians with the 300 Spartans. ?
On magic: for this I think you could include magic, but instead of wizards zapping stuff, maybe make it more Divine blessings/curses, so things like protection from shooting, combat buffs/debuffs, etc. Similarly, for magic items maybe look to Greek myths and draw on those for inspiration (this could even tie in with your beasts idea; eg Heracles wore the pelt of the Nimean Lion for protection because it was impenetrable to weapons, so you could include something similar where a hero has magic armour made from the hide/shell/etc of a magical beast. Weapons could be something like a poisoned sword is made from the fang of a giant serpent and thus has magical poison, etc).
Re: lapping round – I think it’d also be a case that the strength of the phalanx is in the rows of shieldwalls and if the sides of your unit start lapping around then those walls are now broken which would make it easier for the narrower unit to push through your own. Plus remember this wouldn’t be going on in isolation; both sides would have other units to either side of them protecting their flanks, either directly side by side stopping you lapping, or staggered so if you did lap, then the staggered unit would would catch you in the side.
Gerry Can went all Blue Peter this week with the moulds he made earlier. ? What I’d like to see on Gerry Can – as I said on iirc the back banner Gerry Can vid, I’d like to see him make 15mm Tudor style buildings using an actual wattle and daub method for the wattle and daub walls. ?
Re: interlocking tiles – @warzan wouldn’t work for other tile systems, but for the Alamo setup how about not worrying about getting the paint job to match and instead tipping a bag of sand out into that courtyard? I don’t mean gluing sand down for texture but instead laying it down loose. Would be a pain to tidy up when you’re packing away but could be a useful way of covering up the seams while still making use of the ineterlocking tiles and making use of the fact that the walls would contain the sand so you don’t have to worry about it scattering off the table during play.
Like the idea of tipping in a bag of sand, but you are wrong about it being a pain to tidy up…. Hoover (other brands of vacuum cleaner are available)
I was thinking more along the lines of the inevitable few loose grains that you won’t be able to pick up and will linger around for years; only thing more tenacious would be glitter. ?
stretch tights over the end of the hoover tube and you can suck it up and then switch off and reuse it 😀
On the 3D printing front, one thing I don’t think I heard you mention was the ease of modularity it has. Take the siege tower for example; if you wanted one with more levels then you just have to print more copies of the middle levels whereas if it was a kit (eg the old GW one), you’d have to buy an entire extra kit or two and would be left with a bunch of stuff left over.
Good to see that prints retain the quality of detail when you go down a scale; like Warren I’ve been drawn to 15mm lately (currently waiting for the Admiralty Miniatures Kickstarter to deliver) and ive been browsing 15mm terrain. Stuff like hills and trees I plan on just using my club’s 28mm ones as those things would still fit in (and arguably would work better at 15mm than at 28mm), but I’d also like some buildings to use and from my browsing most of the 15mm Tudor style buildings out there don’t look like they’re very good quality (or in the case of 4Ground being mdf look to ‘square’ and ‘artificial’), so I’ve started looking at stuff on thingiverse and was thinking of rescaling it from 28mm to 15mm; good to know that if I did then it’d be viable (don’t have a 3D printer myself but think one of the members of my club mentioned he bought one so might have to hit him up to see if he could print them for me (probably would be cheaper than getting them printed via Shapeways)).
Damn you all for Forsaken the Chosen Amiga..you should be ashamed!
All hail the Commodore GOD
MOM do lovely stuff. I want those Dwarf Golems for elementals!
They would be very cool indeed. I love their Kaldrin & Drek (Gotrek & Felix)
In the show you talk about the amount of filament left over. How do you know that you have enough filament left and what do you do white the leftovers when you don’t print in another scale
I’ll poke @warzan and @dignity to answer, it’s something about not being as good as buying metal and resin miniatures I think ^^
The ancient fantasy mix is what I like to play.
What we do is use the Field of Glory rulesystem and use fantasy miniatures.
We just look for an ancient/medieval army in the army books that have the same kind of mix of weapons as the fantasy army. It works great and means that you don’t have to have those specific ancient armies to play in that time period.
Sword and Spear fantasy works quite well also
Orkz… the best! GIVE THEM TO ME!
please? 😉
Great stuff as usual!!
Trying to determine realistic investment for 3D printing (not shabby end result but not commercial grade either). Spectrum seems to run the full gamut…
Still loving the new format. And who doesn’t like an Ork!
Happy weekend!
Great show as always!
My favourite addition to the show has for sure been Gerry Can! Love it!
Back to trying to get back into doing some hobby for me…
Nice 3D printing segment
I like all the new things you guys are trying! Keep mixing it up. Keeps the show fresh!
Blue Stuff, from HeinsenbergStuffWorld?
Looking at your back wall I see a few classic boxes. Assuming they aren’t empty some classic playthought videos ending with a Nostalgia vs reality review & comparrison to modern alternatives could be fun if you ever need extra content. Possibly even some unboxings mixed with a little history (Please explain the Space Crusade Dreadnaughts).
I was hoping you would do more Reichbusters content around now. We get all the content and therfore hype and excitement during a kickstarter and it all fades away before the stuff arrives. It would be good to see a company get behind their product around the time of delivery. I would love to see some painting guides for some of the more interesting modiels such as the mutations.
afternoon all
Orks for free? yes please, go on you know you want to pick me
Mister Boombasta very fantastic.
Good show guys.Thanks
Great Gerry Can this week. Very inventive and useful.
Really enjoying the new format of the show, the 3d printing bit was brilliant, I think it is worth it’s own show.
Great show – good variety of content which is very welcome. Always like to see what Gerry is up to and Ben picks great indie companies, news and Kickstarters so that is always worthwhile.
It was good to see what Mythic are up to. Nice to hear Solomon Kane is still on track for the summer. As to Steam Watchers I’m a big fan of this style of boardgame so I’ll definitely be giving this a serious look. It does seem that there are some similarities to a favourite game of mine, Scythe. The art style is similar, I’ve looked to see who the artist is but can’t find anything online. I’d be very happy if it was Jakub Rozalski but either way it looks very cool. The combat mechanic looks similar too which can only be a good thing as it will make learning the game much easier.
Next OTT weekender Pandemic 1:1 scale?
Happy weekend!
The steam watchers game sound’s like a good one.
The quality of 3D printers now is fabulous nowadays.
Nice one warzan.
Loved the show guys.
good as always guys…Orks away
Nice 3d print segment.
I’m loving my 3d printers. I have a anycubic and qidi pro and I can’t tell you how much crap…I mean stuff I have printed.
I’m going through all the heroforge prints everyone at my gaming table sent me. I received a few dozen after their Christmas sale while printing a pile of Mando’s for Legion.
Really enjoyed today’s show and the highlight for me was the testing of the 3D printing. Was the miniature chosen one of the buildings from Waterloo. I imagine torros will be really pleased to see you guys delve into the smaller scales. The amount of interior detail retained was truly impressive.
Have great weekend everyone
Great Weekender this week.
I cannot say I love your sh1t, what would the neighbours say?
Although you have a liking for ” Printable Scenery ” I am bent the other way.
Can I afford a 3D printer? No.
Can I afford the time? No
Do I have the knowalage? No
Did this ever stop me before? No
Do I like Gerry ?
Is there a resource for figures? I want to design figs for the Black & Tan war and also the Wilimite wars in Ireland. No Z brush ( unless free) is out of the question. Help will be accepted.
Happy weekend!
Love the Ork Boyz. Might have to make one of these for my Ork Bloodbowl team.
Another great Weekender.
The Weekender brilliant, many thanks
I saw the models from Stormsunder earlier and really liked the look of them. Had meant to find them again to see what it was all about and here they are!
I’m liking the Jerry can and 3D printing segments,I’m hoping that there will be enough content to enable the 3D printing segment to be a semi regular feature. Right now I am on the verge of jumping in on 3D printing but I’m trying to decide whether to go FDM or resin. Seeing some of the amazing terrain that is available FDM is still well in the running. My other issue is whether the print times are worth the flexibility and cost benefits that printing provides.
The results from the budget resin printers is looking great (although I haven’t seen any examples in the flesh) but is the detail crisp truely crisp enough right now to make it a no-brainer?
Why are you adding such a long interview in to Weekender guys? for me its just makes algorithm works against you when I skip big chunk of show.
We have had to accept that doing the kind of wide coverage we do, some folk will skip stuff. And the thing is they all skip different stuff. (Some folk tuned in just for that interview 🙂 so you cant really win against an algorithm which is designed around keeping one man creators pumping out pretty much the same thing. 🙂
cheers for answer Warren, your elf tower is mazeballs
Another great video.
Phalanx and roman cohort tactics used by modern day riot police. Watch this YouTube video and you will see how these types of formations might have been able to switch men from front to rear. Interesting take on what a Greek or Roman battle formation might have been capable of.
Korean Riot Police Use Ancient Roman Tactics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHAl85RbS5w&list=PLWDc_us77sb_9fkwE5bLk27VTCZSfe-Iq&index=24&t=383s
Looking to come on over the Discord server. Can anyone tell me where I could find a link to it? Assuming it wasn’t in some email from when I joined the CoG that may never see the light of day again.
@kiranamida The link should be in this https://mailchi.mp/ontabletop/cogitoludos13
Much obliged to you.
Happy weekend everyone.I hope there will be gameplay video for Steam watchers. By the way, I like the new way the weekender is commented?-reviewed (i don’t know the exact word), when you want to go to a specific topic you can click to the exact point on the timebar? on the video.
Great show guys, love the Elf tower, can you buy it in physical form from anywhere?
Amazed at the 3d printed elven tower.
Oh. Gribbly flying Ork!
For phalanx formations check out the battle scene in the movie Spartacus (the Kirk Douglas version). There is a battle scene where the roman army advances and changes formation. They are marching in phalanx formations.
Another note of interest on phalanxs… There was a tendency of the phalanx to move to the right. Each solider had a shield that would protect them and the soldier next to them. The soldier at the far left end of the phalanx did not have this benefit. As such this guy at the end would try move to the right to get behind his fellows. The crew at Horrible Histories did a skit on this.
Happy weekend!
Great show as always. Have a great week.
The best time after the weekend…watching The Weekender. 🙂
Great episode guys. In regards to Gerry Can I’d love to see a tutorial on magnetising bases to store and transport in Magna Racks or similar. Specifically resin bases & how to get the magnets in those. I know it’s a bit easier with normal GW bases etc but would love one on getting magnets into resin bases. My sisters army is filled with dangly bits so foam I fear will cause some breakages. Thanks
Love the meccha look of those ork guys
3d printing is coming along in leaps and bounds. I’d get one but do I really need to produce More Stuff so efficiently? Maybe
Stormsunder – can’t handle any more plastic right now!
Another great show…useful and entertaining. A good 3D printer would sure be useful for making your own terrain, but with so many kickstarters and a limited amount of time (and money) I think I better stick to working on my painting skills for the plastic tidal wave washing over my office, even as I travel.
@brennon How do compare MOM miniatures with Shieldwolf? Any useful wisdom to impart? These latest ones from MOM are pretty great.
Another great weekender, even though they are midweekers for me now.
I’m 100% sold on getting a resin printer now, I’ve printed that farmhouse set in at 15mm scale on my current printer in PLA and the difference in result is amazing. Just got to wait for payday.
Oh dear, another Mythic kickstarter… Can I escape the lure?
Looking forward to Reichbusters!