Creating An Age Of Sigmar Gaming Table – A Hard Day Super Detailing!
July 9, 2015 by warzan
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Awesome – Great stuff..
Nothing to do with your build
But at Euston station (I think) the pillars supporting the roof above the platform were purposefully designed and paid for by the Bass beer company so that a beer barrel would fit between them when rolled down the platform
Flat lichen is best gotten off a tree but that is probably an environmental disaster
Nice save Warren! You didn’t drop the model!
Its all really starting to come together, i can’t wait to see the finished table.
Personally I’d go for the water theme. A cliff face bit would be a different type of structure for me.
Have you tried cutting up feathers and gluing them in place then painting them?. Maybe painting them first might work better then PVA or brush on varnish to give it a sheen
That’s a very clever idea! The smooth sheen like surface of the feather would be great.
Crazy Irish, it’s spelt Loch 😉
Warren stayed in England to long Lough is the anglicised way to spell loch.
All lakes and inlets in Northern Ireland are called Lough’s
Lough Foyle
Lough Neagh
Strangford Lough
Etc
my bad lough is the lrish spelling 4/5 lakes but mostly lough’s quite a lot of lough’s in England as well.
I got intrigued
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lough
just to confuse people more? @torros
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch
Maybe you could add mushrooms and a few small snails ( or big ones in just a few of those that are detachable ) , that way those work great for a goblin town inside a cave ( those are very wet places so it makes sense to have mushrooms growing on the wood and snails )
My spelling of preference would be Llwch.
That’s the Welshman in me. Why waste a vowel when a few extra consonants will do the job just as well.
Great project guys! Too bad we have to wait till monday 🙁 😀
Looking good! It’s a good point by lloyd, but I don’t know how modular the entire town will be – maybe a few here or there; but goblin town feels like a different build to lake town – it’s a city built on walls and over canyons – I could see a few of the tall platforms good for a western mesa board – but I just don’t see the whole thing being transferable. And I like your water effects.
I would go an entirely different path for seaweed. I’d use green flock in clumps. Then I would use Tamiya Clear Green, which is thick and glossy and daub it all over the flock. That would give the wet, slicked down look that pier legs tend to have I think.
Disclaimer: I have never tried that, it just seems the way to do it to me.
I think this approach is a good idea. From a distance of ten feet or so most of the green stuff growing on docks and piers here looks like wet sodden moss. So in game scale it makes sense that flock glossed over and ‘dripping down’ would give a good representation.
Additionally, this method would seem like a watery mess on a water board and a mossy mess on a mountainous board.
its Loch were i come from
As an Englishman I’d go with “Loch De’ath”
Interesting stuff at the right time. I am drafting a small (4×4) table for Cutlass and want a seafront/quay and the wooden ideas you have presented are just right. I have already changed my plan to incorporate the “decking” and walkway ideas. I can go all out water affect as this will not be reused, but super Warren and John. Can’t wait for the next episode
L O U G H? WTF Is that?
Loch is Scottish… We Englishman call them lakes or waters 😉 Google the film Eden Lake….
warren sandwich the lichen between layers of blotting paper and then clamp the moisture from the lychen is drawn into the paper leaving the lychen dry and flat it does take a few days though
I was thinking of something like this as well. Though I would dampened the lichen first. It will swell up and expand some but it will also soften, making it more willing to be reshaped. Then clamp it down really hard with blotting paper in between boards or with a board and a sheet of metal. Then place it outside for maximum direct sunlight and heating.Once the lichen is fully dried out, it should stay in its new shape.
Try “Turloughbás” a Turlough is a type of vanishing lake that appears in limestone areas of Ireland the water can be very alkaline meaning it can kill some animals that drink from it.
Bás (said like bwass) is one word for death or an end, alternatives are “uafásach” (oo-faws-ukh
) meaning Horrifying or Terrifying, creatlach (krath-lukh) meaning Skeleton and dorcha (dhur-khah) which just means dark.
I just realised I missed a bit about the feathers. I you strip it off the spine of the feather you should be able to twist it to make long pieces of seaweed with sticky out bits
For seaweed try strips of green & brown tissue paper soaked in PVA glue and wrapped around the posts. It would look enough like the flat green & brown fronds of kelp you see at piers.
@warzan – Those piers are looking fantastic so far! As for the lichen, don’t try it. Most pier posts don’t get huge amounts growing on them because of incoming and outgoing tides. Generally they get a type of carpet algae, that looks like green fuzz growing on the pier posts. I suggest you just add a bit of texture, like you’ve been doing with the crustaceans, etc. And then drybrush green on the bottoms of the pier legs. Just choose a consistent tide level to the highest point on the shortest platforms that you want the tide to appear at…unless you want those platforms completely submerged at high tide, then bring the green right up to the top edge, and slightly on the edges of the boards, and then put some wet water effects on those platforms to look like the water isn’t completely dry.
The beauty of this is it will do double duty as moss if you want to do a goblin town, since moss grows in dank/damp places.
Here’s a decent picture of a real life pier at low tide which kind of resembles looking up at one of yours from below!
Liking the look of your loc… er, loug… er, lake.
For the seaweed you could try a film of superglue on the pillar and gently patting the lichen down until it’s stuck flat. Alternatively something like spray mount or tacky wax to get it flattened then some PVA to lock it in place (and make it look more bedraggled).
The Lichen might need some heat before it will flatten out. An untested suggestion would be to place the Lichen in between baking paper and give it a run over with an iron. Hopefully the heat and pressure will get the job done.
I like the idea of not making it as much of a water town so you can use it for other things as well. Also I thought before you said you were going to show how to do the ropes on Thursday but I have still not seen anything on that I would be interested to see just what you did to make them.
I imagine for the rope bumpers they put CA glue on the posts and tightly wrapped string or twine around the glued section.
What if, Warren, you make the piers aquatic themed; play some games on terrain you’re happy with; then scrape off the aquatic effects and re-weather those portions?
Looking good! Listen to Lloyd, reuseabillity is good. I like the idea of goblintown. That’s a second use of the terrain for AoS. Why not do some AoS tutorials/batreps both in Loch Death and a mine entrance 🙂
For seaweed you could try texture paints e.g. lustrian undergrowth would be good & for moss? or stirlind mud for dead plant growth as well. as for the shells they can be on one side of some of the parts then just hide them in the terrain when setting out the map of other areas. @warzan
You might want to think about using a bit of gloss varnish to splash on the lower bits of the pylons. Myself, I use Minwax Polycrylic water-based gloss coating. It might make the terrain less multi purpose, but you could also argue that if you wanted to do something in a cave, that this is the result of water pooling at the bottom of struts in a cave. The important thing is that it is cheap, quick, and looks good. I learned about the effect from TheDMGinfo on Youtube where he was designing a causeway. If you have a piece that is low enough, for instance if you built a top section without any pylons to represent a bit of wood floating directly on the water, throw some Polycrylic on the sides and a little on the edges to make it look like water is flowing over and making the sides wet.
Or talk to warlord see what they have the other alternative to ask is is it a loch with no see or a loch with see, then you could add tide marks to tie it all in do the lot at the same height no matter the height of the pier. just a thought.
meant sea stupid language
This is great, would be great for Hobbit or skirmish games. No reason why you can’t use it for 40k etc and sci-fi, after all we still have piers like that today,
@warzan use greenstuff. flatten it then cut out the shape you want and texture it. I’m sure Johns handy with greenstuff.
@zorg
I’m confused I’m off to have lie down
Lol
Maybe hairspray prior to pressing and clamping would work.
Warren, try a water& glue mixture in a spray bottle then compress again.
@warzan. Think loyd might be right on this one, dont use to much water effects, the. You can reuse it without to much effort.
there is a trick that my mom used to use for pressing flowers, she used a pair of ceramic plates, put the flowers between them, and then stuck them in the microwave, which may work for you for kelp. It works because, as I understand it (read: don’t quote me on this), the microwaves cause the water in the plants to expand enough to break the cell walls, and basically reform the whole structure of the plant. The problem with the pre-dried lichen is that it has already been dried. Your best bet might be to go out, get yourself some fresh lichen/moss and then somehow flatten it in a microwaveable dish, and nuke the moisture out of it. This technique is also dirt cheap and doesn’t take much time, so even if I am spouting nonsense, it will be a negligible investment on whoever tries it’s part
Was going to suggest this one – just put brown paper between the two plates to pull the moisture out of whatever plant you are using. May need to re-touch the colour of the end product (or possibly even varnish and then paint?
Try tissue paper dipped in gloss varnish for seaweed over a lightly textured surface.
For seaweed what about parsley (coated in PVA or varnish) or some other spice/herb/garnish?Might have to find a proper cook or upscale grocers for some ideas.
That’s an interesting one! I’ll make a note of that.
It may already have been mentioned but the shells have the same issue as the hooks do. IF they are in the wrong place they will cause the components to not be flush the same as the hooks would. A few on interior edges would still look nice.
Love how it is all looking.
For seaweed use dry seaweed for sushi. Already pressed and if dampend a bit you can wrap around stuff no problem and a bit of pva will seal it.
I must say I have zero interest in AoS (and fantasy in general) but this is one of the more interesting tables you guys have done.
You could use baking paper to allow the PVA to dry. It could be peelod off afterward.
Try gluing the lichen to where you want it with super glue.
Then, brushing the lichen with watered down pva glue and pressing it together. It will be messy.
Another thing you can try is ironing the lichen on an ironing board, no joke. 😛 Don’t burn your fingers.*
Epic catch by Warren at 7:30
*It could smell a wee bit
Although it might tear when you pull the boards apart with the plastic, could hairspray work to seal it flat?
Looking good gents 🙂
Could you spray the lichen with hairspray / mat varnish then clamp them in the press till it drys
For the seaweed i’m wondering if long strands of static grass (6-10mm) stuck on and then matted down with PVA so they don’t stick up would give a good look?
Could also try just using some fine flock as that would give more of a mossy / algae look and may look better if used for a goblin town board later.
Coming along great, I think I need a John of my own to get my projects finished quicker 😉
I think we all need a John to get our projects done quicker 🙂
Warren, would painted green copper jewelry wire with a bit of GW texture paint work for lichen? Maybe add a light blue wash afterwards?
I might have the compromise that’ll be a win-win, if that is possible in regards to brotherly ‘disagreements’. 😉
Keep 70%-80% of the platforms and walkways non-specific and then detail the rest as lough-specific. You’ll have a very nice looking aquatic table.
Then when you go to build Goblintown, you’ll only need to make 20%-30% new goblin specific new platforms which will convincingly sell the goblin look. You’ll have two awesome specific looks with only 20% more storage space needed.
Quite an amount of that modular terrain came out from all the material. Looking for more updates.
Have you tried using Nori? http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=253662911
or you could do loch death war of the worlds esque red weed
Have you thought about raiding the aquarium section for some aquatic ferns. There pretty flat to begin with, probably have to work on the colours as they can be a bit bright but may give the right look if dyed up n weathered….normally less than a couple of quid for a pack in the pet supplies shop…im talking the natural ferns not the fake ones..really loving how the board is coming together…i do like the idea of multiple uses from one construction project…i could see some steampunk village use with crazy overhanging buildings and wacky clock towers based from that modular building. Plus lothlorien in lotr would look great with walkways between treetops’ and rope bridges.
To make the platforms multi-purpose I would ‘water-effect’ about 1/3rd of them. On Lake Town they could go on the outside of the build where you can see them.
In Goblin Town the watery platforms can go on the bottom and maybe be a bit more scattered. I imagine the bottom of the cave is collecting water in a small stream or lake.
As far as the lichen goes, I would forget about it for creating kelp. It looks wonderful (for bushes and maybe underwater coral), but is very hard to handle. It’s hard to glue down and nearly impossible to model in any other shape than it wishes to sit in. On top of that it tends to dry and deteriorate over time.
I would look for a more synthetic material that is easier to glue down. Maybe some kind of kitchen cloth or sponge cut in very fine strips.